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RacePhoto

« Reply #100 on: May 15, 2012, 16:01 »
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How do  I participate in the IPO? I'm located in Europe.

I could spare a few thousand dollars for some SS Stocks... :)

Ya even I would like to participate in the IPO... but how...?
I discussed today from one of my share broker and he told that I cannot invest in the ipo since I am living on different country.

Often this won't matter, only big investors and insiders will get to buy into an IPO.

Find out who's handling the sale. Contact that brokerage firm.

That's how you get in on the initial offering.


« Reply #101 on: May 15, 2012, 16:15 »
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So the average royalty rate (in 2011) at shutterstock is now official:

28%.                 (33,7 / 120,2)

How much above (higher levels) or below (beginners) that average anyone's individual percentage is, is still a little mystery...

« Reply #102 on: May 15, 2012, 16:21 »
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So the average royalty rate (in 2011) at shutterstock is now official:

28%.                 (33,7 / 120,2)

How much above (higher levels) or below (beginners) that average anyone's individual percentage is, is still a little mystery...

If true, it wouldn't surprise me. I always assumed it was somewhere between 20-30%. My guess was always 25%.

« Reply #103 on: May 15, 2012, 16:22 »
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If we want to buy stock we have to wait until it goes on the New York Stock Exchange NYSE.  It'll be there with the symbol SSTK if it all works out.

If you are living in a country other than the US you can usually still buy US stocks through your local bank or through an investment firm.. at least you can in Norway.

Microbius

« Reply #104 on: May 16, 2012, 03:36 »
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If we want to buy stock we have to wait until it goes on the New York Stock Exchange NYSE.  It'll be there with the symbol SSTK if it all works out.

If you are living in a country other than the US you can usually still buy US stocks through your local bank or through an investment firm.. at least you can in Norway.
Beat me to it. You won't be able to invest in the IPO unless you are a big time investor with millions to spend. The initial offerings are reserved for these sorts of people. We small fry will have to wait until the shares hit the exchange.

helix7

« Reply #105 on: May 16, 2012, 18:15 »
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...We small fry will have to wait until the shares hit the exchange.

Anyone know how long after an IPO it typically takes for public shares to be made available?

« Reply #106 on: May 16, 2012, 18:55 »
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...We small fry will have to wait until the shares hit the exchange.

Anyone know how long after an IPO it typically takes for public shares to be made available?

As soon as they're listed on the NYSE, basically immediately.

« Reply #107 on: May 16, 2012, 18:57 »
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So when the agencies get all these huge money influxes, they dont need to squeeze us so much?
or what?
Or is it so that when they have a huge pile of money, they do not use them for marketing and improving IT, but pile them up in the corner of the bunker, and begin to imagine another pile next to it.
« Last Edit: May 16, 2012, 19:00 by JPSDK »

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« Reply #108 on: May 16, 2012, 22:09 »
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Did a quick read and just want to say for everyone to remember this!

IPO is a "SALE"!

Quote from: ruxpriencdiam
Rudy said it already and they had it on the news this morning about what an IPO is because of Facebook going public and they said no matter what an IPO is a Sale.

First time offer to sell to the public.
Founders and Early investors are cashing out.
and it is a sale.

Here is what some of the investing companies from Wall Street say about IPO's.


Why does a company go public?

Companies issue stock to the public for many reasons including:

    Needing growth capital for the business
    Founding investors selling a portion of their original ownership

    Paying off debt
    Increasing exposure for the company
    Improving company's ability to recruit upper management through stock options
    Ability to issue further stock to facilitate takeovers using company stock

IPOs generally favor the brokerage firms that underwrite these issues and the companies that go public. A close second are institutional investors that buy the stock at its offering price and then sell it in the afternoon, profiting from the transaction. By pricing the shares below their real value, institutions are able to make a quick buck off unsuspecting individual investors. Unless you are a big institution, it's unlikely that you would be able to buy shares in an IPO even if you wanted to. Only those with the deepest pockets representing the widest interests get access to these opportunities. That's not such a bad thing for individual investors.

Sure, being in on the ground floor might mean a quick 15 to 20 percent return on your investment once it starts trading. However, studies have shown that many IPOs tend to trade below their offering price one year after going public. Investors might be better to focus on buying stocks that were IPOs a year earlier. Coca Cola went public in 1919 at $40 and was trading at $19 a year later. That is quite a difference.

IPOs do from time to time grow up to be extremely large companies and so, like any other investment vehicle, you should do careful research before investing. If it's a stock worth buying and holding for the long term, whether you buy it today or in a year is of little consequence in the end.







Why Go Public?
Going public raises cash, and usually a lot of it. Being publicly traded also opens many financial doors:

    Because of the increased scrutiny, public companies can usually get better rates when they issue debt.
    As long as there is market demand, a public company can always issue more stock. Thus, mergers and acquisitions are easier to do because stock can be issued as part of the deal.
    Trading in the open markets means liquidity. This makes it possible to implement things like employee stock ownership plans, which help to attract top talent.

« Reply #109 on: May 19, 2012, 04:59 »
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« Reply #110 on: May 19, 2012, 06:22 »
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^^^ Good article. Thanks for posting.

rubyroo

« Reply #111 on: May 19, 2012, 08:57 »
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Yes, great article.  Thanks.   Nice to know someone sees us as specialists.  ;D

Interesting to learn that only 20% of applicants get in, and that around 40% of images are rejected.
« Last Edit: May 19, 2012, 09:00 by rubyroo »

« Reply #112 on: May 19, 2012, 14:50 »
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The Tao of Shutterstock: What Makes a Stock Photo a Stock Photo? - The Atlantic

For years, whenever any book or mainstream publication said anything about microstock or 'crowdsourcing' images, they only talked about iStock or mentioned other agencies only as an afterthought. Nice to see that changing.

« Reply #113 on: May 19, 2012, 15:37 »
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Here's an interesting article from Gizmodo on the Facebook IPO.  Even though it's written about Facebook I think it has quite a few applications to Shutterstock.  Here is a quote which I'm afraid might be true.. switch out facebook for shutterstock in the bold part

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But in the long term, Facebook being a public company has potentially huge repercussions. Private companies have the luxury of running themselves however they want. They can focus on long-term strategy instead of short-term gain. Public companies, though, have to march in front of their shareholders every three months and explain how and why they madeor lostso much of other people's money.

That kind of pressure can make a company lose sight of what made it so successful in the first place.
Facebook, in particular, will be immediately under fire for not doing more to monetize each individual user. Its earnings are dramatically below its projections; if it doesn't find a way to grow quickly, it'll have hell to pay. For a company that's already prone to overreaching, that anger could be the spark that lights a powder keg of privacy and Open Graph concerns.

http://gizmodo.com/5911275/reminder-the-facebook-ipo-wont-make-you-rich/

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« Reply #114 on: May 19, 2012, 17:04 »
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Here's an interesting article from Gizmodo on the Facebook IPO.  Even though it's written about Facebook I think it has quite a few applications to Shutterstock.  Here is a quote which I'm afraid might be true.. switch out facebook for shutterstock in the bold part

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But in the long term, Facebook being a public company has potentially huge repercussions. Private companies have the luxury of running themselves however they want. They can focus on long-term strategy instead of short-term gain. Public companies, though, have to march in front of their shareholders every three months and explain how and why they madeor lostso much of other people's money.

That kind of pressure can make a company lose sight of what made it so successful in the first place.
Facebook, in particular, will be immediately under fire for not doing more to monetize each individual user. Its earnings are dramatically below its projections; if it doesn't find a way to grow quickly, it'll have hell to pay. For a company that's already prone to overreaching, that anger could be the spark that lights a powder keg of privacy and Open Graph concerns.

http://gizmodo.com/5911275/reminder-the-facebook-ipo-wont-make-you-rich/


These hype IPOs are a farse. They serve only one purpose: to line the pocket of financial executives and a few insiders managing the IPO. It's not about investment, it's about fees.... they have almost nothing to do with the company's or the investors interest. If there was rational price discovery mechanism at work here, the shares simply wouldn't sell at such an unreal price compared to working profits... and it wouldn't generate so much fee.

« Reply #115 on: May 19, 2012, 17:14 »
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The Tao of Shutterstock: What Makes a Stock Photo a Stock Photo? - The Atlantic


I like that line "with its value relying almost entirely on the enthusiasms of its contributors" ... lose the enthusiasm and you'll lose the enthusiasms. I hope they'll remember that.

« Reply #116 on: May 20, 2012, 11:38 »
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These hype IPOs are a farse. They serve only one purpose: to line the pocket of financial executives and a few insiders managing the IPO. It's not about investment, it's about fees.... they have almost nothing to do with the company's or the investors interest. If there was rational price discovery mechanism at work here, the shares simply wouldn't sell at such an unreal price compared to working profits... and it wouldn't generate so much fee.

The Facebook IPO is the daddy of all farces. As I mentioned in another thread Apple, with all it's fantastic products and $100B of cash reserves, is currently trading at a price/earnings ratio of about 13. Google has a PE of 20. Facebook's earnings ratio is a staggering ... wait for it ... are you sitting down ... 125!!!!!! In other words, it's only going to take about 125 years for Facebook to eventually earn what it was priced at.


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« Reply #117 on: May 20, 2012, 17:35 »
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These hype IPOs are a farse. They serve only one purpose: to line the pocket of financial executives and a few insiders managing the IPO. It's not about investment, it's about fees.... they have almost nothing to do with the company's or the investors interest. If there was rational price discovery mechanism at work here, the shares simply wouldn't sell at such an unreal price compared to working profits... and it wouldn't generate so much fee.

The Facebook IPO is the daddy of all farces. As I mentioned in another thread Apple, with all it's fantastic products and $100B of cash reserves, is currently trading at a price/earnings ratio of about 13. Google has a PE of 20. Facebook's earnings ratio is a staggering ... wait for it ... are you sitting down ... 125!!!!!! In other words, it's only going to take about 125 years for Facebook to eventually earn what it was priced at.

So there was a dotcom bubble, it popped, disaster - they went from that to an enormous real estate bubble, popped, disaster - now they want another dotcom bubble? 0.o  Talk about quick, forced loss of memories.... or learning from mistakes.. omg :)

« Reply #118 on: May 20, 2012, 17:55 »
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These hype IPOs are a farse. They serve only one purpose: to line the pocket of financial executives and a few insiders managing the IPO. It's not about investment, it's about fees.... they have almost nothing to do with the company's or the investors interest. If there was rational price discovery mechanism at work here, the shares simply wouldn't sell at such an unreal price compared to working profits... and it wouldn't generate so much fee.

The Facebook IPO is the daddy of all farces. As I mentioned in another thread Apple, with all it's fantastic products and $100B of cash reserves, is currently trading at a price/earnings ratio of about 13. Google has a PE of 20. Facebook's earnings ratio is a staggering ... wait for it ... are you sitting down ... 125!!!!!! In other words, it's only going to take about 125 years for Facebook to eventually earn what it was priced at.
Boy you7 sure know it L

So there was a dotcom bubble, it popped, disaster - they went from that to an enormous real estate bubble, popped, disaster - now they want another dotcom bubble? 0.o  Talk about quick, forced loss of memories.... or learning from mistakes.. omg :)

Boy, you sure know it all................

« Reply #119 on: May 20, 2012, 18:14 »
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sub from 71.4% to 132.4%
od from 18.4% to 31.6%
el from 27.8% to 40.5%

is iStock paying more?  ::)
For me it is, PP sub sales are about 11% higher than at SS per sale (I didn't check sub plan pricing but I think they are about the same so IS would be paying a higher %).  On Demand sales are probably on average about 25%, while single image OD are 20% which is the same or lower than a base level exclusive.  And ELs (I doubt too many people buy the 25 EL packs) are probably closer to 30% on average which is the same or less than the majority of exclusives.  The point was that SS is not giving really high commissions.  In fact if your issue with IS is that they give too low commissions it would make more sense to be exclusive since SS gives lower commissions than they do.

But back on topic, my guess is SS will raise prices and keep commissions the same.

SS is the only microsite (besides of IS) wich could raise prices safely.

wut

« Reply #120 on: May 20, 2012, 18:51 »
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SS is the only microsite (besides of IS) wich could raise prices safely.
I hope investors will take care of that and not cut the royalties at the same time

« Reply #121 on: May 20, 2012, 21:52 »
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Does anyone know what the market share breakdowns are between shutterstock and istock?

RacePhoto

« Reply #122 on: May 20, 2012, 23:34 »
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Does anyone know what the market share breakdowns are between shutterstock and istock?


This is totally conjecture and whatever anyone guesses, will be argued and contradicted by someone else. Keeping that in mind, based on my super secret private research. MicroStock Only! It compares IS exclusive, and independent sales income to SS everyone sales income.

SS 33%
IS 22%

(ps the next top eight sites combined = 45%, none having more than 10% of the market.)

Easy to say from my personal view. There are only two sites to spend time supporting. SS and IS. Unless you want to be an IS exclusive, which is just fine. Option three is upload to every site in the world that will take your images, 50 if you can handle it.

Simply put, One Site (exclusive) Two sites (the two that sell and pay, optimize efforts) or Every site you can upload to and pick up some spare change.

drugal

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« Reply #123 on: May 21, 2012, 03:00 »
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These hype IPOs are a farse. They serve only one purpose: to line the pocket of financial executives and a few insiders managing the IPO. It's not about investment, it's about fees.... they have almost nothing to do with the company's or the investors interest. If there was rational price discovery mechanism at work here, the shares simply wouldn't sell at such an unreal price compared to working profits... and it wouldn't generate so much fee.

The Facebook IPO is the daddy of all farces. As I mentioned in another thread Apple, with all it's fantastic products and $100B of cash reserves, is currently trading at a price/earnings ratio of about 13. Google has a PE of 20. Facebook's earnings ratio is a staggering ... wait for it ... are you sitting down ... 125!!!!!! In other words, it's only going to take about 125 years for Facebook to eventually earn what it was priced at.
Boy you7 sure know it L

So there was a dotcom bubble, it popped, disaster - they went from that to an enormous real estate bubble, popped, disaster - now they want another dotcom bubble? 0.o  Talk about quick, forced loss of memories.... or learning from mistakes.. omg :)

Boy, you sure know it all................

This is only news to babies.

« Reply #124 on: May 21, 2012, 15:50 »
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These hype IPOs are a farse. They serve only one purpose: to line the pocket of financial executives and a few insiders managing the IPO. It's not about investment, it's about fees.... they have almost nothing to do with the company's or the investors interest. If there was rational price discovery mechanism at work here, the shares simply wouldn't sell at such an unreal price compared to working profits... and it wouldn't generate so much fee.

The Facebook IPO is the daddy of all farces. As I mentioned in another thread Apple, with all it's fantastic products and $100B of cash reserves, is currently trading at a price/earnings ratio of about 13. Google has a PE of 20. Facebook's earnings ratio is a staggering ... wait for it ... are you sitting down ... 125!!!!!! In other words, it's only going to take about 125 years for Facebook to eventually earn what it was priced at.
Boy you7 sure know it L

So there was a dotcom bubble, it popped, disaster - they went from that to an enormous real estate bubble, popped, disaster - now they want another dotcom bubble? 0.o  Talk about quick, forced loss of memories.... or learning from mistakes.. omg :)

Boy, you sure know it all................
The posts of Drugal continue to serve as a reminder to us all of the purpose and value of the MSG Ignore option.


 

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