Author Topic: SS rejections explosion!!! (Read 40509 times)

Tuilay · « **Reply #50 on:** December 25, 2008, 21:25 »

Quote from: hali on December 25, 2008, 21:19

I am glad I don't have all your problems, as
I am a total failure at SS. 3 times submitted and three times rejected within half hour of my submission. Yet I am a regular contributor with the other of the Big 6 and more. Even Alamy and the once Photo Shelter.

So I guess I was born not to be a Shutterstock-er, ay ?
today they sent me an email to "invite" me to "try again".
I wrote them to say, "um, thanks but no thanks !"
whoopy dink !

You're an idiot, Shutterstock is the best site to belong. Your loss !

RacePhoto · « **Reply #51 on:** December 26, 2008, 04:44 »

Quote from: Tuilay on December 25, 2008, 21:25

Quote from: hali on December 25, 2008, 21:19
I am glad I don't have all your problems, as
I am a total failure at SS. 3 times submitted and three times rejected within half hour of my submission. Yet I am a regular contributor with the other of the Big 6 and more. Even Alamy and the once Photo Shelter.

So I guess I was born not to be a Shutterstock-er, ay ?
today they sent me an email to "invite" me to "try again".
I wrote them to say, "um, thanks but no thanks !"
whoopy dink !

You're an idiot, Shutterstock is the best site to belong. Your loss !

Some days I think there's some magic cosmic opposition (like magnetic North and magnetic North) between IS and SS. I had no problem getting accepted at SS and my photos have not exploded.

Once I started paying attention I don't get many rejections at SS. However, IS is just the opposite. Photos that breeze through at SS and pretty much everywhere else, get rejected at at IS.

SS is my best selling site, IS is worse for me than DT, StockXpert and BS! Very unusual. Others find IS is their top selling site.

Some days I read here and think, it just must be something about shooting and editing style, because people have just the opposite opinions as the next person who posts here. Look below, "IS Raises the bar" "Rejections Increasing" are subjects. Fotolia forum, "Fotolia Rejections - Thinking of closing account" and "Too Artistic? More Random Rejections". Lets not leave out StockXpert "Rejection reason!" and complaints about review times. In the pole on review times some people get them faster than they can add a model release, for me it takes three days. (good photographers with better selling photos get moved to the front of the cue?) SS is always under 48 hours for me. 123, in Oct people were writing about reviews in minutes, now it's slower than IS.

What I'm getting at, is it seems that all is not the same for everyone at all the same places. The sites have a habit of running in spurts of good and bad. It's like trying to predict the weather a month in advance.

Dreamframer · « **Reply #52 on:** December 26, 2008, 08:43 »

SS is by far my best selling site. I had two payments since I joined (march 23. 2008) and I expect another payment in january. My second is DT with one payment since february 2008.
But Tuilay, please, keep this forum friendly. It's not right to call someone "idiot" because he doesn't submit to shutterstock. Even if you think so, keep it for your self. This is not the place for insulting people.

lobby · « **Reply #53 on:** December 26, 2008, 10:49 »

Merry Cristmas

to every one

I do have rejection exlosion at SS too
the last 30 days i have 3% acceptance at SS !!!!!!

and 80% acceptance at IS !!!!!

the same images !!!!!!

Also 40% less downloads

Something is going wrong with SS for sure

Wish you all

Happier

new year

hali · « **Reply #54 on:** December 26, 2008, 11:20 »

Quote from: RacePhoto on December 26, 2008, 04:44

Some days I think there's some magic cosmic opposition (like magnetic North and magnetic North) between IS and SS. I had no problem getting accepted at SS and my photos have not exploded.
--------(edit for brevity)----
What I'm getting at, is it seems that all is not the same for everyone at all the same places. The sites have a habit of running in spurts of good and bad. It's like trying to predict the weather a month in advance.

i sort of agree with you. in my case, my reviews with StockXpert and DST are almost full approval , although StockXpert is much much faster than DST, almost overnight.
IS and Fotolia ,( i just started with Fotolia, while IS i only submit rarely but when i do the approval is like 1 of every 3) i find is almost identical results. if IS accepts, Fotolia is also an approval, same with rejection. Crestock i don't know what to think, and SS, as i said, woa mean Mr. Mustard...

i decided to take the advice of one of our regulars here, when he said, "take the site that likes your images, and stay with them; some succeed with SS, others succeed with IS, it 's individual style."
i think my "style" is not Shutterstock type. but for sure, Alamy, Photoshelter, IS, StockXpert and DST, as well as BigStock like them, so i think that's plenty for me.

hey whitechild, thanks too . Tuilay , well...

Dreamframer · « **Reply #55 on:** December 27, 2008, 08:07 »

I'm sure you would do very well at SS. You just have to understand what to submit for application. It's really the only problem with SS. After this...everything everything becomes pretty simillar to other sites, except number of dl's. You would experience probably several times more dl's than on other sites.

borg · « **Reply #56 on:** December 28, 2008, 07:22 »

Last batch 100% approved!!! Not bad, not bad!

lobby · « **Reply #57 on:** December 28, 2008, 11:59 »

congrats "borg"

Thanx for the info

i will hold my uploads
untill more people report
approvals are back to normal
again.....

Any sutch info i guess is wellcome

from everyone ;-)

hali · « **Reply #58 on:** December 28, 2008, 12:58 »

Quote from: whitechild on December 27, 2008, 08:07

I'm sure you would do very well at SS. You just have to understand what to submit for application. It's really the only problem with SS. After this...everything everything becomes pretty simillar to other sites, except number of dl's. You would experience probably several times more dl's than on other sites.

ya, so i've been told by so many ppl here with SS. they tell me the same thing, more sales with SS.
i guess i have to be patient and not be pissed off with SS rejection of initial 10 submissions.

i just find it frustrating, esp when they respond to reject my submission in 15 minutes or so,
and always, fail.. you have to pass 7 out of 10.
do they even look at all the images or do they just fail you if you fail the first 3? i wonder!

Tuilay · « **Reply #59 on:** December 28, 2008, 19:41 »

Quote from: whitechild on December 26, 2008, 08:43

SS is by far my best selling site. I had two payments since I joined (march 23. 2008) and I expect another payment in january. My second is DT with one payment since february 2008.
But Tuilay, please, keep this forum friendly. It's not right to call someone "idiot" because he doesn't submit to shutterstock. Even if you think so, keep it for your self. This is not the place for insulting people.

Ok, so I was a bit heavy with my word to call hali "idiot". I only meant to say hali should keep trying to get accepted with Shitterstock because they sell well.
whitechild, I take back the "idiot" word used for answering hali. I will remember to "keep it to myself." Not trying to insult you, hali. OK?

epixx · « **Reply #60 on:** December 28, 2008, 22:18 »

I'm now an official member of the SS Reject Club (SSRC) as well. 15 out of 18 rejected in less than six hours, and on a Sunday

Oh well, there are other important things in life, like.... ummmm..... ok, I'll tell you when I think of something more important

Tuilay · « **Reply #61 on:** December 28, 2008, 22:27 »

Quote from: epixx on December 28, 2008, 22:18

I'm now an official member of the SS Reject Club (SSRC) as well. 15 out of 18 rejected in less than six hours, and on a Sunday

Oh well, there are other important things in life, like.... ummmm..... ok, I'll tell you when I think of something more important

don't take it too hard epixx,
the reviewer probably had a bad christmas, maybe Santa didn't come !!!

RacePhoto · « **Reply #62 on:** December 28, 2008, 23:53 »

Quote from: Tuilay on December 28, 2008, 22:27

Quote from: epixx on December 28, 2008, 22:18
I'm now an official member of the SS Reject Club (SSRC) as well. 15 out of 18 rejected in less than six hours, and on a Sunday

Oh well, there are other important things in life, like.... ummmm..... ok, I'll tell you when I think of something more important

don't take it too hard epixx,
the reviewer probably had a bad christmas, maybe Santa didn't come !!!

Only got a sack of coal, Attila the reviewer has a gas furnace.

hayaship · « **Reply #63 on:** December 29, 2008, 00:26 »

"Thumbnail jpg has rough edges"
how can avoid this rejection message? my thumbnail follow the guidelines, 500 x 400 px, quality 12

...what can i do?

epixx · « **Reply #64 on:** December 29, 2008, 05:01 »

Quote from: Tuilay on December 28, 2008, 22:27

Quote from: epixx on December 28, 2008, 22:18
I'm now an official member of the SS Reject Club (SSRC) as well. 15 out of 18 rejected in less than six hours, and on a Sunday

Oh well, there are other important things in life, like.... ummmm..... ok, I'll tell you when I think of something more important

don't take it too hard epixx,
the reviewer probably had a bad christmas, maybe Santa didn't come !!!

Oh, but I'm Santa. My images were the gifts for him. Unfortunately, he didn't like them. Spoiled kids nowadays

Maui · « **Reply #65 on:** December 29, 2008, 05:51 »

Quote from: hayaship on December 29, 2008, 00:26

"Thumbnail jpg has rough edges"
how can avoid this rejection message? my thumbnail follow the guidelines, 500 x 400 px, quality 12

...what can i do?

Make the thumbnail larger. I routinely send 'thumbnails' with 2500 px width and high quality. SS does the resizing.

Jack Schiffer · « **Reply #66 on:** December 29, 2008, 06:08 »

If ss continues to refuse photos they may be down on the site earning poll along with istock I predict Dreamstime will be top dog someday

epixx · « **Reply #67 on:** December 29, 2008, 11:07 »

Quote from: Jack Schiffer on December 29, 2008, 06:08

If ss continues to refuse photos they may be down on the site earning poll along with istock I predict Dreamstime will be top dog someday

If the current development continues, DT will be my top earner in 2009. IS is already down to number four or thereabout. Those who think that the current market positions are engraved in stone, may be in for a few surprises. If one of the big agencies fall too deep, they will have a hard time surviving. Only those with low overhead costs will make it through a downturn in the economy. That favours some of the smaller agencies.

Tuilay · « **Reply #68 on:** December 29, 2008, 12:17 »

Not sure if I agree with you there epixx. Being down from 2 to 4 in this forum does not reflect how IStock is faring in sales. It only reflects with those who participate here.
It could actually work out better for buyers of IStock, as they will see a big improvement in quality not quantity. You get more critical with your submission with IStock and this will in turn result in a bigger acceptance margin.

As for Shutterstock, well...

mjp · « **Reply #69 on:** December 29, 2008, 13:49 »

About a half of the latest batch were rejected due the reason: not in focus/ focus not where we want it blaah...

Images were food shots with shallow dof you can see any food magazine / book (shot with tilt&shift lens to maximize DOF). I was getting lot of this kind of rejections on StockXpert earlier this year but suddenly I got all my new images accepted (same DOF etc..). Had to change approach for SS images.

br, MJP

Tuilay · « **Reply #70 on:** December 30, 2008, 11:02 »

Quote from: mjp on December 29, 2008, 13:49

About a half of the latest batch were rejected due the reason: not in focus/ focus not where we want it blaah...

Images were food shots with shallow dof you can see any food magazine / book (shot with tilt&shift lens to maximize DOF). I was getting lot of this kind of rejections on StockXpert earlier this year but suddenly I got all my new images accepted (same DOF etc..). Had to change approach for SS images.

br, MJP

I like to think that all this sudden rejections from the sites, not just Shutterstock,
is due to the hiring of temporary help for the christmas rush.
You think that extra reviewers will help get the job done, but really, without training or supervision
you get the reverse effect ie. crap reviewers who can't tell the diff between creative focus
and out of focus; high key lighting and lens flare,etc...

I could go on to list the reasons, but i am sure you all got them this past month.
My guess : the same unqualified reviewers were hired by these sites.
I for one cannot wait till 2009 to normalize things when we get back to the old experienced reviewers.

shutterdrop · « **Reply #71 on:** January 03, 2009, 08:56 »

I have seen the 1st miracle of 2009!!!

I submit 10 images for review and four hours later 8 images accepted!

The eyes of Shutterstop are upon us!

Peter · « **Reply #72 on:** January 03, 2009, 09:39 »

Quote from: Tuilay on December 30, 2008, 11:02

Quote from: mjp on December 29, 2008, 13:49
About a half of the latest batch were rejected due the reason: not in focus/ focus not where we want it blaah...

Images were food shots with shallow dof you can see any food magazine / book (shot with tilt&shift lens to maximize DOF). I was getting lot of this kind of rejections on StockXpert earlier this year but suddenly I got all my new images accepted (same DOF etc..). Had to change approach for SS images.

br, MJP

Doesnt agencies on holidays have less job? why would they need extra reviewers? people upload less on holidays, not more!

I like to think that all this sudden rejections from the sites, not just Shutterstock,
is due to the hiring of temporary help for the christmas rush.
You think that extra reviewers will help get the job done, but really, without training or supervision
you get the reverse effect ie. crap reviewers who can't tell the diff between creative focus
and out of focus; high key lighting and lens flare,etc...

I could go on to list the reasons, but i am sure you all got them this past month.
My guess : the same unqualified reviewers were hired by these sites.
I for one cannot wait till 2009 to normalize things when we get back to the old experienced reviewers.

RacePhoto · « **Reply #73 on:** January 03, 2009, 21:52 »

I think you have it. Inexperienced reviewers.

That's why I had 100% of my last batch to SS accepted, over the holidays. Same for BS, StockXpert, FT, SV and every site I sent then to, except 100% of the same group of identical photos, rejected at IS.

Experienced reviewers at SS probably would have rejected them too?

Peter · « **Reply #74 on:** January 04, 2009, 03:51 »

Doesnt agencies on holidays have less job? why would they need extra reviewers? people upload less on holidays, not more!

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