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« Reply #25 on: January 29, 2021, 13:11 »
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For me, it looks like downloads will be flat, and revenue will be down 20%.  :(


« Reply #26 on: January 29, 2021, 13:24 »
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For me, it looks like downloads will be flat, and revenue will be down 20%.  :(


Never mind the Quasi-philosophers will tell us not to moan and just shut-up grin and bear it! ::)

« Reply #27 on: January 29, 2021, 15:59 »
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With a couple days left, it looks like I'll be down about 30% on SS compared to January 2019.

« Reply #28 on: January 29, 2021, 19:06 »
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Video only:
Dec 2020: 41 sales: 498$ (level 4)
Jan 2021: 40 sales: 229$ (level 1&2)
Even if I was on level 4 this January, I will get around 350$: RPD is really low this month as I get a lot of 1$ sales

Pond5 which was my best earner until 2020, with more videos and exclusive 250 clips:
Dec 2020: 1 sale
Jan 2021: 0 sales

« Reply #29 on: January 30, 2021, 00:57 »
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Shutterstock last year pulled the carpet from underneath you and then told you they will do it again every year on January 1st.

And you now act surprised that your income stream is down??? what did you think was going to happen, your income would triple???


I don't think anybody is surprised -or acting surprised. But the amount of the downturn is significantly worse than expected.
I don't think anybody really spends 'all day' whinging on the forums.

If you don't want to read these threads, then please don't read them.

If people who are dismayed with it all want to come here and vent then what is your problem?
In any case there is no need to be rude and tell us to 'shut up'.

Insults and bullying and the desire to 'cancel' differing opinions is getting everywhere even in small forums like this. Almost as depressing as the SS results for Jan.

Cancel? Bullying? Oh c'mon get real.

This constant harping about shitterstock is just self-flagellation and there are plenty of threads and discussions out there both here and on shittystock.

You want to do something positive then either delete your portfolios or if you can then at least stop uploading.




« Reply #30 on: January 30, 2021, 02:54 »
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Down some 40-50%... Terrible

« Reply #31 on: January 30, 2021, 04:06 »
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Shutterstock last year pulled the carpet from underneath you and then told you they will do it again every year on January 1st.

And you now act surprised that your income stream is down??? what did you think was going to happen, your income would triple???


I don't think anybody is surprised -or acting surprised. But the amount of the downturn is significantly worse than expected.
I don't think anybody really spends 'all day' whinging on the forums.

If you don't want to read these threads, then please don't read them.

If people who are dismayed with it all want to come here and vent then what is your problem?
In any case there is no need to be rude and tell us to 'shut up'.

Insults and bullying and the desire to 'cancel' differing opinions is getting everywhere even in small forums like this. Almost as depressing as the SS results for Jan.

Cancel? Bullying? Oh c'mon get real.

This constant harping about shitterstock is just self-flagellation and there are plenty of threads and discussions out there both here and on shittystock.

You want to do something positive then either delete your portfolios or if you can then at least stop uploading.
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Thats right! go on! you tell them! ;D ;D

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« Reply #32 on: January 30, 2021, 11:05 »
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Help me to understand something...

Shutterstock last year pulled the carpet from underneath you and then told you they will do it again every year on January 1st.

And you now act surprised that your income stream is down??? what did you think was going to happen, your income would triple???

As noted above, you either bend over and take it up the corn hole, or you close your account, but this ouch it hurts mommy thing is very very very boring.

As far as I am concerned it is nothing more than senseless complaining. What more do you want? How about a little bit of cheese with that whine.




Enough!




Absolutely brilliant Uncle Pete.

Mommy Mommy make it go away...

I think there's a difference from posting facts and numbers, for example:

For me, it looks like downloads will be flat, and revenue will be down 20%.  :(

Or recognizing that:

Should I remind you that staying on a platform does not mean you support its policies?

But some keep posting, boycott, close your account, hurt them (like we really make any difference to SS?) or "I closed my account last year". Does anyone think that the agencies actually care about what gets posted here or on other forums. And why all the anger, all the time, towards Shutterstock while the rest of the thieves, who under pay for our work, get a free pass for doing even worse?

If someone left and took their photos with them, what does it matter to them so much, that they have to tell the rest of us, how we want to act personally? I'm going to do what I want. I'm happy to say, do what you want. To each their own.

Like BalkanskiMacak, understanding the math or asking for fair criticism and balance, isn't defending anyone. It's just being rational instead of being consumed by anger picking at anything to attack, no matter how small.



This constant harping about shitterstock is just self-flagellation and there are plenty of threads and discussions out there both here and on shittystock.

You want to do something positive then either delete your portfolios or if you can then at least stop uploading.


Or stop posting the same redundant messages here, go cry on somebody else's shoulder?  ;)

PZF

« Reply #33 on: January 30, 2021, 16:11 »
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 ::)
« Last Edit: January 30, 2021, 16:32 by PZF »

« Reply #34 on: January 30, 2021, 21:46 »
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there you go again, pete -- nothing like deflating a good rant w reality

« Reply #35 on: January 31, 2021, 07:12 »
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Stopped uploading when they changed the payment structure. Income looks down by more than a third on last year on SS. SS down from first place in terms of earnings to comfortably in third place. Sales up elsewhere for me, overall earnings across all site looking fine. So everything going according to plan.

Oh and feel free to whinge on as for as Im concerned. If we have to plough through pages of stories about the old days from hobbyists on every thread to get to anything about photography I am sure they can tolerate a line or two of commiserating with each other or complaining when someone decimates your entire living and means of supporting your family. And people wonder why participation is down  ::)
« Last Edit: January 31, 2021, 07:34 by Justanotherphotographer »

« Reply #36 on: January 31, 2021, 07:40 »
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I sold 48 photos on SS in Jan 2020 and 100 in Jan 2021. Hopefully tomorrow I'll move into tier 2.

« Reply #37 on: January 31, 2021, 10:46 »
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Hopefully tomorrow I'll move into tier 2.

Where you will still mostly get 10-cent subs - yay!  Congratulations on moving up at least.

« Reply #38 on: January 31, 2021, 10:57 »
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Worst month since August of 2009 - my seventh month in microstock.  It was down 86% from my average of last year and 92% down from the average monthly earnings of my best year in 2017.  Fortunately I don't need the money, but wow what a precipitous drop!

My final submissions to them were during April of last year - wasn't really worth the effort even before the commission cut and definitely not now.  Looks like this month they will finish in fourth place, and might drop to fifth depending on iS.  They were just a few cents ahead of DT and could drop behind them with one more DL.  Will be interesting to see how far they drop after the next poll - soon fading to irrelevance, unfortunately.

« Reply #39 on: January 31, 2021, 12:44 »
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Worst month since August of 2009 - my seventh month in microstock.  It was down 86% from my average of last year and 92% down from the average monthly earnings of my best year in 2017.  Fortunately I don't need the money, but wow what a precipitous drop!

My final submissions to them were during April of last year - wasn't really worth the effort even before the commission cut and definitely not now.  Looks like this month they will finish in fourth place, and might drop to fifth depending on iS.  They were just a few cents ahead of DT and could drop behind them with one more DL.  Will be interesting to see how far they drop after the next poll - soon fading to irrelevance, unfortunately.

Same here but I only do assignment photography nowadays I cant be bothered with stock anymore it always turn sour anyway. I deleted 4000 files after the SS horrible behaviour I have about 2000 files left and the income is sinking rapidly to the point where I am soon thinking of deleting all the rest of my files. Well next week will tell for sure!

Its almost as if they know who we are behind our pseudos??

« Reply #40 on: January 31, 2021, 15:19 »
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I don't understand why peoples total month earnings are down from 1 year ago unless they just have the same image quantity as a year ago. I only upload 25 images a week but am $100 up this month from a year ago and only submit to the 5 main agencies. As long as I keep adding photos my earning increase. iStock non exclusive giving me double of Adobe and Shutterstock.

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« Reply #41 on: January 31, 2021, 15:33 »
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I don't understand why peoples total month earnings are down from 1 year ago unless they just have the same image quantity as a year ago. I only upload 25 images a week but am $100 up this month from a year ago and only submit to the 5 main agencies. As long as I keep adding photos my earning increase. iStock non exclusive giving me double of Adobe and Shutterstock.

In the last 12 months I've added 521 images and 88 clips.

Images revenues are down 63% year on year, as reported. Return per down is down from 56cents/download January 2020 to 24cents/download January 2021.

Adding more content will just mean that revenue won't drop as much but it will surely drop.
 


« Reply #42 on: January 31, 2021, 20:20 »
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The numbers are in and worse than i thought.

Compared to average lifetime RPDs im down 48% for images (down to $0.39) and down 75% for video (from $21 or so to $5).
Download *numbers* remained consistent, a bit higher than average so its not covid or recession, its simply being paid a LOT less for the same thing, particular with video where almost every sale was a pathetically low subscription.

I actually sold more videos than the last few months and earned 75% less.

« Reply #43 on: February 01, 2021, 04:45 »
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Yes of course they remain the same!^^   but all revenues are geared towards the eastern blocks, Thailand etc, etc. the actual search algorithm is aimed towards that. SS have been nursing these markets for many years now!

« Reply #44 on: February 01, 2021, 06:16 »
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Worst year since April 2016.

« Reply #45 on: February 01, 2021, 06:44 »
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I don't understand why peoples total month earnings are down from 1 year ago unless they just have the same image quantity as a year ago. I only upload 25 images a week but am $100 up this month from a year ago and only submit to the 5 main agencies. As long as I keep adding photos my earning increase. iStock non exclusive giving me double of Adobe and Shutterstock.

Depends largely on the size of your portfolio. If you start out with 25 images and add 25 in a week you've doubled your portfolio size, while RPI may have only slipped by a percentage point or two in that week. The pain wont kick in until your portfolio is large enough that you can no longer keep pace with the decrease in RPI (or you slow down uploading).

« Reply #46 on: February 01, 2021, 07:55 »
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Yes of course they remain the same!^^   but all revenues are geared towards the eastern blocks, Thailand etc, etc. the actual search algorithm is aimed towards that. SS have been nursing these markets for many years now!

Well that sure is a speculative opinion. Do you have any facts to back your algorithms?




MxR

« Reply #47 on: February 01, 2021, 08:04 »
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I don't understand why peoples total month earnings are down from 1 year ago unless they just have the same image quantity as a year ago. I only upload 25 images a week but am $100 up this month from a year ago and only submit to the 5 main agencies. As long as I keep adding photos my earning increase. iStock non exclusive giving me double of Adobe and Shutterstock.

Young rookie, you'll soon meet the wall!

« Reply #48 on: February 01, 2021, 08:20 »
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Yes of course they remain the same!^^   but all revenues are geared towards the eastern blocks, Thailand etc, etc. the actual search algorithm is aimed towards that. SS have been nursing these markets for many years now!

India and Pakistan seems to be their main target for contributors (image farms etc).

« Reply #49 on: February 01, 2021, 08:22 »
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I don't understand why peoples total month earnings are down from 1 year ago unless they just have the same image quantity as a year ago. I only upload 25 images a week but am $100 up this month from a year ago and only submit to the 5 main agencies. As long as I keep adding photos my earning increase. iStock non exclusive giving me double of Adobe and Shutterstock.

Because each image same now returns 50% less commission and each video sale 75% less commission than 1 year ago....


 

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