Post by: NeonRobot on June 07, 2020, 06:27
PLEASE REPOST. PLEASE REPOST.
BOYCOTT JUN 15 -21
SECOND PHASE: JUN 22-28
https://www.microstockgroup.com/shutterstock-com/shutterstock-blackout-2nd-phase-22-28/ (https://www.microstockgroup.com/shutterstock-com/shutterstock-blackout-2nd-phase-22-28/)
THIRD PHASE: JUN 29-JUL8
https://www.microstockgroup.com/shutterstock-com/shutterstock-blackout-3rd-phase-jun-29-jul-8/ (https://www.microstockgroup.com/shutterstock-com/shutterstock-blackout-3rd-phase-jun-29-jul-8/)
FOURTH PHASE: JUL 8-31
https://www.microstockgroup.com/shutterstock-com/shutterstock-blackout-4th-phase-jul-8-jul-31/ (https://www.microstockgroup.com/shutterstock-com/shutterstock-blackout-4th-phase-jul-8-jul-31/)
Russian speaking contributors are planning to disable their portfolios during 15-21 Jun period [and maybe even month period, tbd].
SO JOIN THE EFFORT, IF YOU DARE. STOP BEING SILENT SLAVES!
1] Stop uploading
2] Disable Image/Video sales during 15-21 Jun period or more, tbd -> Go to Account Settings, disable sales [see pic below]
3] Change your image avatar at stock site and their forum
4] Change description of your profile to smth: "Since June 2020, after huge royalties drop for contributors I have disabled my portfolio & will not continue until roayties will be reconsidered"
5] Remove all shutterstock related links from your sites, blogs, whatever
6] Spread info at social media
7] Downvote all their products, videos, applications on any marketplace
8] If you have contact with buyers, deliver this info to them, convince them to switch the stock
9] Upvote my post
10] Do i mention don't upload & deactivate your portfolio?
To prevent denial of service, when opting out on 15th, i recommend not to do this simultaneously to smooth things out. Eg. Choose 12, 13, 14 or smth
LAST RESORT:
1] Put a direct link to your portfolio on rival microstock site [this action violates TOS]
2] Completely delete all images & profile
HOW TO REMOVE FROM SS GUIDE
https://youtu.be/BokWySasDPk (https://youtu.be/BokWySasDPk)
ssRemover: script for easy removing files from rotten ss.
https://fokas-pokas.livejournal.com/1894.html
For chrome you will need Tampermonkey extension:
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tampermonkey/dhdgffkkebhmkfjojejmpbldmpobfkfo (https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tampermonkey/dhdgffkkebhmkfjojejmpbldmpobfkfo)
For other browsers - Greasemonkey extension:
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greasemonkey (https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greasemonkey)
OFFICIAL SS REPLY TO PETITION: https://www.change.org/p/shutterstock-object-to-the-decline-in-shutterstock-s-contributor-earnings (https://www.change.org/p/shutterstock-object-to-the-decline-in-shutterstock-s-contributor-earnings):
I sincerely apologize for the inconvenience caused to you. We hear your concern with the new earnings structure changes.
The decision to make these changes was not made lightly and was done with much consideration for all of our contributors.
Shutterstock aims to fairly compensate our contributors for the time and talent invested in the production of their work. [Looks like trolling]
Given the market has changed significantly since Shutterstock was founded in 2003, we have made changes to better reflect the current market.
SO IT'S LIKE:
"With all disrespect to all of you, f#ck you! We don't care about you, your family and you will continue to contribute [i estimate over 60% of continuators], you miserable slave. Live with it, piece of crap"
SECOND PETITION:
https://www.change.org/p/change-the-humiliating-system-of-royalties-for-shutterstock-contributors (https://www.change.org/p/change-the-humiliating-system-of-royalties-for-shutterstock-contributors)
PRETTY DETAILED EXPLANATION OF WHY THEY ARE DOING THIS:
https://www.microstockgroup.com/shutterstock-com/the-truth-about-shutterstock-and-all-of-these-other-tech-companies (https://www.microstockgroup.com/shutterstock-com/the-truth-about-shutterstock-and-all-of-these-other-tech-companies)
MY CONTRIBUTION TO THIS MESS:
20.06.08 Just turned off 15.283 units [1/4 illustrations] + a bit of videos.
FOLLOW ME IF YOU DARE!
PERIOD: month [minimum]
SS DATABASE STATS:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Sx80IDLCr0-1_ie1a17Rtm4m9fgUwglaxHdyNy2lDCc/htmlview#gid=0 (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Sx80IDLCr0-1_ie1a17Rtm4m9fgUwglaxHdyNy2lDCc/htmlview#gid=0)
POLL: WILL YOU DISABLE YOUR PORT?
https://www.microstockgroup.com/shutterstock-com/with-new-earning-structure-made-by-shutterstock-will-you-disable-your-portfolio/ (https://www.microstockgroup.com/shutterstock-com/with-new-earning-structure-made-by-shutterstock-will-you-disable-your-portfolio/)
(https://ak.picdn.net/contributors/254005/avatars/thumb.jpg)
(https://c.radikal.ru/c18/2006/dc/341ae52287f2.jpg)
Post by: NeonRobot on June 07, 2020, 07:05
Post by: theendup on June 07, 2020, 07:09
Post by: NeonRobot on June 07, 2020, 07:14
Also join Facebook group called "Stock Submitter Coalition" here https://www.facebook.com/groups/261369748434285/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/261369748434285/)
Sadly my fb deleted years ago;)
Post by: peuceta on June 07, 2020, 07:44
Greetings from Italy
in the ass of CEO Shutterstoch
Post by: PokemonMaster on June 07, 2020, 08:40
4] Change description of your profile to smth: "Since June 2020, after huge royalties drop for contributors I have stopped uploading my stuff to SS. For new/better stuff check me on [insert your fav site].This is violates the TOS and may cause ban. So I would not recommend it. Especially, with links.
Post by: NeonRobot on June 07, 2020, 08:45
4] Change description of your profile to smth: "Since June 2020, after huge royalties drop for contributors I have stopped uploading my stuff to SS. For new/better stuff check me on [insert your fav site].This is violates the TOS and may cause ban. So I would not recommend it. Especially, with links.
I've placed only the name of the site, no links.
You care about TOS? You know... F#CK it!
I will understand their move if they fully automate submission process. At least.
But all they do is cut the royalties and invent ranking reset.
Post by: pics2 on June 07, 2020, 09:09
Post by: [email protected] on June 07, 2020, 09:13
Post by: pics2 on June 07, 2020, 09:14
Hahaha, I will stay in ss because I need money. 8)Whats funny
Post by: noodle on June 07, 2020, 09:22
Hahaha, I will stay in ss because I need money. 8)Whats funny
The lunatic is on the grass...
"I can't think of anything to say except... Laughing is nice! HaHaHa!"
Post by: Desintegrator on June 07, 2020, 09:34
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on June 07, 2020, 10:02
We can keep harping on about the declining collection numbers - in spite of those who are still uploading (I looked at some this morning; the collection shrinks *in spite of* new uploads). This will capture all those who have already disabled their portfolios as well as those doing so June 15th
Post by: NeonRobot on June 07, 2020, 10:09
Will disable ~15200 pix and small amount of abstract videos.
Post by: marthamarks on June 07, 2020, 10:13
Hahaha, I will stay in ss because I need money. 8)
Good luck with that.
Post by: angelawaye on June 07, 2020, 10:28
I am referring people to dreamstime. I've always loved this company.
Post by: Tabimura on June 07, 2020, 10:29
Post by: KevinM on June 07, 2020, 10:35
Also recommend a couple Facebook groups to link up with more folks dedicated to pushing back on the Shutterstock commission cut (some of those people are here as well). We're stronger unified.
Stock Submitter Coalition: https://www.facebook.com/groups/261369748434285/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/261369748434285/)
Shutterstock Contributors Worldwide: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1686048705011055/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/1686048705011055/)
Post by: Mantis on June 07, 2020, 10:45
Post by: Snow on June 07, 2020, 11:05
I disabled my portfolio on May 30th. I did update my profile photo with your .10 cent photo and added the new info to my bio.
I am referring people to dreamstime. I've always loved this company.
Argh Angela I know you can't afford doing this so respect to you and I will be joining you pretty soon.
I'm seeing all these talented people with their unique portfolio's dropping out, some with tens, even hundreds of thousands images or clips.
No matter what people say you can bet they will start to feel a slight sting that just won't go away and will get a lot worse!
And they still have to deal with the Russian community!
And if all this won't help then we'll put some h@ckers at work ;)
I just started creating a WIX website to put in my SS profile and guide people elsewhere and noticed you can directly add Shutterstock images. Then I remembered they have a contract together no?
So I find it very amusing that I will be creating a Wix website promoting anything but Shutterstock :)
ps. Angela your Dreamstime link doesn't work in your SS profile: http://www.dreamstime.com/haywiremedia (http://www.dreamstime.com/haywiremedia)
this is the right one: https://www.dreamstime.com/haywiremedia_info (https://www.dreamstime.com/haywiremedia_info)
Edit: whoops just noticed you removed your links here (buttons) so if not ok pls let me know and I will remove the above links
Post by: angelawaye on June 07, 2020, 21:39
It's going to be really hard for me losing the income every month and they only gave us a 6 day notice! I wish they would have given contributors more time before rolling out the new royalties.
Please keep us posted on how WIX goes for you. I was thinking about doing Shopify but I'm not so great at the marketing side of things.
Post by: Hildegarde on June 07, 2020, 22:12
Post by: Dumc on June 07, 2020, 22:46
Post by: Zalee on June 07, 2020, 22:54
Post by: NeonRobot on June 07, 2020, 22:55
Post by: PokemonMaster on June 07, 2020, 23:31
I've placed only the name of the site, no links.Yeah, yeah. I'm in, I am disabling on 15-21. But I am not ready to F#CK the TOS yet. I prefer to quit by my own will, then get banned. And there's a lot of people like me. You setting them up. If you want to keep the line 4, add a warning.
You care about TOS? You know... F#CK it!
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on June 08, 2020, 00:15
If anyone wants to find my work they can google my name and the other agency sites will show up, so there's no need to direct anyone there. I am putting plugs for the other agencies into the tweets about #BoycottShutterstock, but that's it.
Arguably, a series of empty portfolio pages - a ghost town of names with no portfolios - might be an even more potent message. No one likes to eat in an empty restaurant - it feels weird; licensing images on a site where content from your lightbox isn't there any more and there are bunches of empty portfolio pages sends a loud and clear message to buyers.
Post by: Chichikov on June 08, 2020, 00:30
But it's not for a week, it's for an indefinite time (at least two months if nothing changes, then I'll see what to do - at least that's my state of mind for now. I'm extremely angry, but when I calm down I might have a different point of view).
I don't think deactivating the portfolio for just one week will have a big impact on Shutterstock.
The financial impact will be almost zero if a very large majority don't do it. And I highly doubt this will happen (sorry but with age I have less and less confidence in humans).
And the moral impact will be even less because these people (Shutterstock) have no morals!
Moreover by reading the different forums and social media, I realize that a large part of the contributors don't even know what's going on.
But I understand very well that many contributors don't have the chance to deactivate their portfolio for more than a week.
That's why we, those of us who can do it, have to make an extra effort, for them.
Post by: NeonRobot on June 08, 2020, 00:34
I've placed only the name of the site, no links.Yeah, yeah. I'm in, I am disabling on 15-21. But I am not ready to F#CK the TOS yet. I prefer to quit by my own will, then get banned. And there's a lot of people like me. You setting them up. If you want to keep the line 4, add a warning.
You care about TOS? You know... F#CK it!
Fixed things up.
Post by: NeonRobot on June 08, 2020, 02:12
I'm in. 44000 images portfolio. Videos (2000) are already disabled and will stay that way.
I've got some reports from Russian community that opting out currently unavailable.
Quote: Sorry, there was an issue saving your latest changes. Please try again.
There is a suggestion to strike today, because fat ones could remove this option in nearest future. What do you think?
Post by: Dumc on June 08, 2020, 02:19
Post by: NeonRobot on June 08, 2020, 02:26
Post by: Chichikov on June 08, 2020, 02:27
I crossed my mind, that they could disable those buttons, I think every but must act ASAP.If they deactivate these buttons, it will not be possible to reactivate the portfolios :D
Post by: NeonRobot on June 08, 2020, 02:34
I crossed my mind, that they could disable those buttons, I think every but must act ASAP.If they deactivate these buttons, it will not be possible to reactivate the portfolios :D
Don't care.
Post by: Horizon on June 08, 2020, 02:50
Post by: Dumc on June 08, 2020, 02:54
Post by: CommuniCat on June 08, 2020, 04:00
Post by: Mimi the Cat on June 08, 2020, 05:10
Hahaha, I will stay in ss because I need money. 8)
What money? You do realise that you'll take a huge paycut
Sell 200 files at 10 cents = $20
Post by: Mimi the Cat on June 08, 2020, 05:10
I crossed my mind, that they could disable those buttons, I think every but must act ASAP.If they deactivate these buttons, it will not be possible to reactivate the portfolios :D
At the miserable rates they are paying it would be no loss
Post by: [email protected] on June 08, 2020, 06:44
Thank youHahaha, I will stay in ss because I need money. 8)
Good luck with that.
Post by: Dumc on June 08, 2020, 09:06
I guess she won't join the action, she prefers others to do it for her. Hypocrisy at it's finest.
Post by: Shelma1 on June 08, 2020, 09:11
Funny thing happened. I joined that Stock Submiters Coalition facebook group, and asked Shelma1, when she's planning to disable her vectors, since she's some kind of leader there. She banned me from the group.
I guess she won't join the action, she prefers others to do it for her. Hypocrisy at it's finest.
It's clear you only wanted to join to abuse me, since you immediately came here to do just that. Jake has posted a note there asking people to volunteer. So far he has had one volunteer—me. You want to help? Email him and volunteer. But there's no reason for you to be a member of a group taking positive action if your only goal is to be negative and abusive.
Post by: blue on June 08, 2020, 09:15
Funny thing happened. I joined that Stock Submiters Coalition facebook group, and asked Shelma1, when she's planning to disable her vectors, since she's some kind of leader there. She banned me from the group.Not surprising ::)
I guess she won't join the action, she prefers others to do it for her. Hypocrisy at it's finest.
Post by: Dumc on June 08, 2020, 09:20
Funny thing happened. I joined that Stock Submiters Coalition facebook group, and asked Shelma1, when she's planning to disable her vectors, since she's some kind of leader there. She banned me from the group.
I guess she won't join the action, she prefers others to do it for her. Hypocrisy at it's finest.
It's clear you only wanted to join to abuse me, since you immediately came here to do just that. Jake has posted a note there asking people to volunteer. So far he has had one volunteer—me. You want to help? Email him and volunteer. But there's no reason for you to be a member of a group taking positive action if your only goal is to be negative and abusive.
How is "So when are you planing to disable your vectors" abusive and negative? It's a simple question, and the anwser was ban. I call that abuse of a power and Stan Pawlovsky-kind-of behaviour.
Post by: rcnyc on June 08, 2020, 09:21
Post by: Shelma1 on June 08, 2020, 09:55
Funny thing happened. I joined that Stock Submiters Coalition facebook group, and asked Shelma1, when she's planning to disable her vectors, since she's some kind of leader there. She banned me from the group.
I guess she won't join the action, she prefers others to do it for her. Hypocrisy at it's finest.
It's clear you only wanted to join to abuse me, since you immediately came here to do just that. Jake has posted a note there asking people to volunteer. So far he has had one volunteer—me. You want to help? Email him and volunteer. But there's no reason for you to be a member of a group taking positive action if your only goal is to be negative and abusive.
How is "So when are you planing to disable your vectors" abusive and negative? It's a simple question, and the anwser was ban. I call that abuse of a power and Stan Pawlovsky-kind-of behaviour.
Did you volunteer to help?
Post by: NeonRobot on June 08, 2020, 10:03
Follow me if you dare!
Post by: Snow on June 08, 2020, 10:18
He could've at least added a link to his Shutterstock portfolio so we can all admire his unique top quality imagery and vast library of clips!
I present you the master himself:
https://www.shutterstock.com/g/christopherhall?sort=popular (https://www.shutterstock.com/g/christopherhall?sort=popular)
Some people, pfff no words...
Post by: Tabimura on June 08, 2020, 10:29
https://petapixel.com/2020/06/08/is-this-the-end-of-microstock-photography/ (https://petapixel.com/2020/06/08/is-this-the-end-of-microstock-photography/)Dayum! I've seen a fine a$$ closeup of a pebble on white!
He could've at least added a link to his Shutterstock portfolio so we can all admire his unique top quality imagery and vast library of clips!
I present you the master himself:
https://www.shutterstock.com/g/christopherhall?sort=popular (https://www.shutterstock.com/g/christopherhall?sort=popular)
Some people, pfff no words...
...on the first page of most popular.
Post by: Clair Voyant on June 08, 2020, 11:34
Funny thing happened. I joined that Stock Submiters Coalition facebook group, and asked Shelma1, when she's planning to disable her vectors, since she's some kind of leader there. She banned me from the group.
I guess she won't join the action, she prefers others to do it for her. Hypocrisy at it's finest.
That does not surprise me.
Post by: Justanotherphotographer on June 08, 2020, 11:40
Post by: Clair Voyant on June 08, 2020, 11:47
Can we please just stop attacking each other!!!
Pointing out the hypocrisy is noble. You either support SS in these ridiculous terms or you don't. To be here pretending you don't but do nothing about is to be noted, it is not an attack. Actions speak much louder than words. I have respect for anyone who disabled their account. It is an action that takes courage no matter how big or small your port is.
Just goes to prove the dog with the biggest bark has no bite.
Post by: zorba on June 08, 2020, 12:02
https://www.facebook.com/groups/261369748434285 (https://www.facebook.com/groups/261369748434285)
Post by: GrayMouse on June 08, 2020, 12:04
Can we please just stop attacking each other!!!You seems to be over-sensitive :D
Post by: NeonRobot on June 08, 2020, 12:06
Post by: whtvr on June 08, 2020, 12:26
For microstockers you missed tagging in second PP article. TAGS: CHRISTOPHERJAMESHALL, INDUSTRY, MICROSTOCK, OPED, OPINION, SHUTTERSTOCK, STOCK, TRENDS
It is tagged "microstock" in contrast with first article on the matter that will be buried with TAGS: ANGER, ANGRY, CONTROVERSY, EARNINGS, EARNINGSSTRUCTURE, FURIOUS, PERCENTAGE, PETITION, ROYALTIES, ROYALTYSTRUCTURE, SHUTTERSTOCK"
Plus a nice CC0 (this from Pexels) image on top as usual. Not even fricking 0,10¢ for you people. You cannot choose your enemy but you can choose your friends wise. And not everyone currently mentioning or even accusing Shutterstock is your friend.
Post by: Shelma1 on June 08, 2020, 12:30
My thanks for this is to have people here call me a hypocrite and repeatedly try to join the coalition on Facebook just to ask me why I haven’t shut down my port rather than doing something constructive.
But I’m done now. Jake’s on his own with 2,500 people who complain endlessly and attack other people but won’t lend him a hand. Go scratch.
Post by: cathyslife on June 08, 2020, 12:47
Post by: zsooofija on June 08, 2020, 13:01
But I’m done now. Jake’s on his own with 2,500 people who complain endlessly and attack other people but won’t lend him a hand. Go scratch.
Please don't leave. You are doing a great job, and at least you volunteered to help,while noone else did in a group of 2500 (I was thinking about it, but I think you need a better English than mine for this kind of task).
I am thankful for what you are doing if that counts. :)
Post by: microvideo on June 08, 2020, 15:47
Post by: NeonRobot on June 08, 2020, 16:18
Don't even think to begin uploading or i will slap your #ss!
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on June 08, 2020, 16:37
I hope that anyone thinking that they can just stay and upload more to make up the difference (someone on the Stock Submitter Coalition said exactly that) does a little math. This is what I posted in reply to them
You cannot fix this royalty cut by uploading more.
Look at the worst case where you used to get 38¢ and now you only get 10¢. You now need an additional 2.8 times the downloads - almost three times your current downloads!
Buyers won't want more images - not three times more images anyway - just because Shutterstock slashed royalties.
So your only way out of this pickle, if you really believe you can do this, is to be so much better and more relevant than your fellow contributors that you can siphon off their downloads to get the multiple you need to keep your income.
Don't even think about growing your income - you'll do well to just run in place.
Do the math. You can't outrun this
Post by: microvideo on June 08, 2020, 16:38
I haven't had video sales in June yet so I want to see how bad is for video before deleting them but it doesn't look good. They're introducing a $9 per video subscription.
Post by: Brasilnut on June 08, 2020, 16:53
https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/pete-wright-zeyma01zsvc-unsplash-jpg-1617540907 (https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/pete-wright-zeyma01zsvc-unsplash-jpg-1617540907)
Post by: microvideo on June 08, 2020, 16:57
Post by: microvideo on June 08, 2020, 17:03
Thieves haven't stopped uploading there...nice title buddy lol
https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/pete-wright-zeyma01zsvc-unsplash-jpg-1617540907 (https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/pete-wright-zeyma01zsvc-unsplash-jpg-1617540907)
Or someone could look for all te images from free sites that are also on SS and spread the word on main design sites on how they're charging for something that is free.
Post by: Brasilnut on June 08, 2020, 17:07
I'm tempted to upload some images to unsplash an other free sites but leaving them on SS. Then track down people that have bought the image on SS and tell them hey do you know SS is charging you for free content.
I'm sure Pete Wright wouldn't be very happy about some turds licensing his free content.
https://unsplash.com/photos/zeyMA01ZSvc
Post by: cathyslife on June 08, 2020, 17:09
Post by: microvideo on June 08, 2020, 17:12
I'm tempted to upload some images to unsplash an other free sites but leaving them on SS. Then track down people that have bought the image on SS and tell them hey do you know SS is charging you for free content.
I'm sure Pete Wright wouldn't be very happy about some turds licensing his free content.
https://unsplash.com/photos/zeyMA01ZSvc
I'm letting him know, feel free to do so as well:
https://unsplash.com/@petewright
Post by: obj owl on June 08, 2020, 17:15
Thieves haven't stopped uploading there...nice title buddy lol
https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/pete-wright-zeyma01zsvc-unsplash-jpg-1617540907 (https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/pete-wright-zeyma01zsvc-unsplash-jpg-1617540907)
Or someone could look for all te images from free sites that are also on SS and spread the word on main design sites on how they're charging for something that is free.
Shutterstock do not have a problem with selling public domain status images, but do have a problem with public domain status images that have not been verified as such.
Post by: Desintegrator on June 08, 2020, 17:16
Thieves haven't stopped uploading there...nice title buddy lol
https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/pete-wright-zeyma01zsvc-unsplash-jpg-1617540907 (https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/pete-wright-zeyma01zsvc-unsplash-jpg-1617540907)
Or someone could look for all te images from free sites that are also on SS and spread the word on main design sites on how they're charging for something that is free.
I know we are all angry with Shutterstock, rightfully so... but i don't think promoting free sites would be a good strategy for us.
Post by: cathyslife on June 08, 2020, 17:35
I'm in. 44000 images portfolio. Videos (2000) are already disabled and will stay that way.
I've got some reports from Russian community that opting out currently unavailable.
Quote: Sorry, there was an issue saving your latest changes. Please try again.
There is a suggestion to strike today, because fat ones could remove this option in nearest future. What do you think?
Disabling was turned off for me too. It said I had turned it on and off too many times, try later. For four days it said that. No matter, I have deleted my images.
Post by: ADH on June 08, 2020, 18:12
What happened today is the fault of the contributors who uploaded their work to every possible image bank regardless of how much they pay.
For SS to remain competitive they must lowered their commissions to Istock standards.
This is the raw reality.
Post by: PokemonMaster on June 09, 2020, 00:30
Shutterstock do not have a problem with selling public domain status images, but do have a problem with public domain status images that have not been verified as such.Shutterstock DO have problems with Public Domain photos. It's forbidden by TOS. Imagine we all download the same photos from Unsplash and upload the same to multiple ports. It is clearly breaks the inner SS rules, not the law. But guys from Unsplash don't know it, so please inform.
Sorry for offtop.
Post by: NeonRobot on June 09, 2020, 02:18
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Sx80IDLCr0-1_ie1a17Rtm4m9fgUwglaxHdyNy2lDCc/htmlview#gid=0
On wiki article they were downgraded on the list:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microstock_photography
Post by: everest on June 09, 2020, 03:40
How did Istock react lowering drastically prices, establishing royalty targets (increasing every year to make everyone at last in the 15-30% range), jumping on the subs wagon......and creating sales for cents sometimes (still images and video). Many people left. I could not at that time as I was too deep entrenched in the exclusuivity and even with all the cuts the alternative to get 0.38 c per image sold when my net image sale was 10x times higher was not very enticing.
Even so I tried for 3 months. In 2 months I was already at the 0.36$/level and making 1000$/month only on Shutter and 500$/month on Adobe. Still very very far of what I was making as an exclusive so I returned to the crown. But when I started with video I didn't want to fall into a trap again (content exclsuivity is not a problem if you can delete, contributor exclsuivity I would NOT recommend to anyone), so I uploaded to any agency that paid at least 30%.
How did others tackle the problem to people contributing their content to other sites that sell much cheaper. I think P5 has taken the best approach. Content exclusivity that pays 60% (very fair reward IMHO) and 40% for the rest but they leave us the freedom to establish our prices but they have to be in line with the competition.
At any moment P5 and Adobe will have to go subs on video too. They don't have another choice specially with Getty and Shutter on the field giving content away. I am ok with that, I understand that they will have to make this move so that anyone still shops there. As far as they mantain their commission structure I respect that decision.
What I will NEVER agree is a money grab under the excuse of market conditions that ends up in the owner pockets. If they need to lower the price to compete wr all share that cost , not on our backs only.
If you ask me and I think many top producers share my opinion, the only way to protect prices in some way is content (again not contributor ) exclusivity. With this you take out some of the power away from the clients to shift it back to agencies and contributors.
In resume "lowering commissions to Istock standards" is not the right approach. At least for me.
For years SS has been subsidizing Istock, most of the contributors I know used to upload their same portfolio to SS and IS, they used to get the big$$$ from SS and residual earnings from IS. IS pays a 15% flat rate to their independent contributors. SS could not compete with a company who paid a fraction to the contributors that SS used to pay,
What happened today is the fault of the contributors who uploaded their work to every possible image bank regardless of how much they pay.
For SS to remain competitive they must lowered their commissions to Istock standards.
This is the raw reality.
Post by: ThomasAmby on June 09, 2020, 03:41
I'm surprised actually that they made such a big move at once. Wouldn't you want to introduce the paycuts gradually to get people used to it? From a corporate perspective it seems to be such a ridiculous move to do it all at once!
And it has me suspecting that they are planning to come up with a less bad revenue system in a short while, just so we can all be really relieved and cheer on them and say "Thank you for listening to us, Shutterstock! The best agency and always has been! Thanks for caring about your contributors" while now accepting the new and "improved" 20c commissions. Everybody seems to win some (but actually only the agency wins, as they planned for 20c commissions all along).
Either way, I'm not coming back unless everything goes back exactly the way it was before OR better. I'll also take better. But for sure won't be accepting even a 1% paycut. No bargaining.
SOOO now you'll have to buy Luigi, the world famous pizza chef, elsewhere ;D
Post by: NeonRobot on June 09, 2020, 05:04
Post by: NeonRobot on June 09, 2020, 05:24
+added official ss reply with conclusion, see header posting.
Post by: PokemonMaster on June 09, 2020, 09:33
+added official ss reply with conclusion, see header posting.Looks like official reply was provided by third-party support, as a pre-written universal answer. How dare they?
Post by: mcuda on June 09, 2020, 09:42
Post by: gameover on June 09, 2020, 10:55
Interesting, they were waiting...
Post by: NeonRobot on June 09, 2020, 10:59
Have you tried boycottshutterstock.com ?
Interesting, they were waiting...
Provided site just redirecting to original ss.
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on June 09, 2020, 11:13
...Either way, I'm not coming back unless everything goes back exactly the way it was before OR better. I'll also take better. But for sure won't be accepting even a 1% paycut. No bargaining.
SOOO now you'll have to buy Luigi, the world famous pizza chef, elsewhere ;D
Do you mind if I tweet about this - with a link to your Adobe Stock portfolio & a screenshot of Luigi from your port there? We have a #NoLongerAtShutterstock and #BoycottShutterstock "promo" campaign going :)
Post by: ThomasAmby on June 09, 2020, 11:15
...Either way, I'm not coming back unless everything goes back exactly the way it was before OR better. I'll also take better. But for sure won't be accepting even a 1% paycut. No bargaining.
SOOO now you'll have to buy Luigi, the world famous pizza chef, elsewhere ;D
Do you mind if I tweet about this - with a link to your Adobe Stock portfolio & a screenshot of Luigi from your port there? We have a #NoLongerAtShutterstock and #BoycottShutterstock "promo" campaign going :)
Feel free! :)
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on June 09, 2020, 11:28
https://twitter.com/joannsnover/status/1270393293776367616
Post by: vector99 on June 09, 2020, 12:57
Boycott Shutterstock!
Post by: GrayMouse on June 09, 2020, 17:05
Post by: ThomasAmby on June 10, 2020, 01:29
After 1 min of extra thinking... So how many stock contributors will be banned? 100? 500? Shutterstock will be fine without them. This action is... Boring. I won't change my avatar or whatever. Nor publicly cry. Take it, or leave it. But you can fight :) I will be thankful for your activity.
The few people deactivating their portfolios now probably only has a slight symbolic value (an important one to send a signal nonetheless). Personally I'm not under the illusion that they will even take note of my action. I just don't want to support their success and I can easily afford it.
Many people however can't afford it. But they CAN afford to stop providing new quality content and focus on the other agencies instead. And this, I believe, will be the downfall of Shutterstock. This will have a MUCH bigger impact in the long run. Clients won't notice at first, but will have a harder and harder time finding relevant content that meets a certain standard and ultimately they'll stop renewing their subscriptions. Not as a protest or anything, simply because they'll want quality, and if it's not found on Shutterstock, they'll go elsewhere. No one wants to wade through tons of low quality content from hobbyists (which is now apparently being accepted all the time. What happened?!?). Photos will begin to look dated within a couple of years. For the clients it's all about quality, and if Shutterstock can't afford quality contributors anymore (or has made a decision not to), then it's the end. It won't happen in a day, and Stan will likely meet his bonus criteria. But it will have consequences and it won't be sustainable for the company in the long run.
Post by: PokemonMaster on June 10, 2020, 01:35
After 1 min of extra thinking... So how many stock contributors will be banned? 100? 500? Shutterstock will be fine without them. This action is... Boring. I won't change my avatar or whatever. Nor publicly cry. Take it, or leave it. But you can fight :) I will be thankful for your activity.Just stop it. Do not continue. Also, don't yell.
Anyway, let me remind for all of us that there's a huge difference between claimed SS contributors and active SS contributors. Because, I guess, every third "portfolio" have no images at all. In 2016 active portfolios amount was counted, or leaked. It was about 30k. And now almost 10k signed the petition. This is a good number to deal with, as for me.
Post by: Shelma1 on June 10, 2020, 02:46
Post by: NeonRobot on June 10, 2020, 02:49
And yes we must turn off imagery faster, coz they profit 3 times faster.
Post by: Chichikov on June 10, 2020, 04:25
Freepik and ss now have much in common 8)
And yes we must turn off imagery faster, coz they profit 3 times faster.
I have seen now that the group
https://www.facebook.com/groups/261369748434285 (https://www.facebook.com/groups/261369748434285)
has a new administrator: a brand ambassador of Freepik!!
Unacceptable for me.
Post by: Shelma1 on June 10, 2020, 04:29
Post by: douglas on June 10, 2020, 05:09
Freepik and ss now have much in common 8)
And yes we must turn off imagery faster, coz they profit 3 times faster.
I have seen now that the group
https://www.facebook.com/groups/261369748434285 (https://www.facebook.com/groups/261369748434285)
has a new administrator: a brand ambassador of Freepik!!
Unacceptable for me.
The new administrator, Antonio Gravante, is now the new ex-administrator having flounced off in a huff. Seems this group's admins have a shorter life expectancy than football managers.
Post by: Shelma1 on June 10, 2020, 05:10
Freepik and ss now have much in common 8)
And yes we must turn off imagery faster, coz they profit 3 times faster.
I have seen now that the group
https://www.facebook.com/groups/261369748434285 (https://www.facebook.com/groups/261369748434285)
has a new administrator: a brand ambassador of Freepik!!
Unacceptable for me.
The new administrator, Antonio Gravante, is now the new ex-administrator having flounced off in a huff. Seems this group's admins have a shorter life expectancy than football managers.
Give it a try and see how long you last.
Post by: gnirtS on June 10, 2020, 05:26
Just tested with a few editorials (that are elsewhere online already). All 20 rejected 17 seconds after hitting submit on them.
Post by: cathyslife on June 10, 2020, 07:40
Post by: cathyslife on June 10, 2020, 07:41
Freepik and ss now have much in common 8)
And yes we must turn off imagery faster, coz they profit 3 times faster.
I have seen now that the group
https://www.facebook.com/groups/261369748434285 (https://www.facebook.com/groups/261369748434285)
has a new administrator: a brand ambassador of Freepik!!
Unacceptable for me.
The new administrator, Antonio Gravante, is now the new ex-administrator having flounced off in a huff. Seems this group's admins have a shorter life expectancy than football managers.
Good. Freepik shouldn’t be welcomed anywhere.
Post by: NeonRobot on June 10, 2020, 14:58
https://youtube.com/watch?v=53NGlov6RHo (https://youtube.com/watch?v=53NGlov6RHo)
& esp this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nFJO--PuDo
Kill them.
Post by: microvideo on June 10, 2020, 16:06
Post by: microvideo on June 10, 2020, 16:12
Post by: obj owl on June 10, 2020, 16:25
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on June 10, 2020, 16:30
Freepik and ss now have much in common 8)
And yes we must turn off imagery faster, coz they profit 3 times faster.
I have seen now that the group
https://www.facebook.com/groups/261369748434285 (https://www.facebook.com/groups/261369748434285)
has a new administrator: a brand ambassador of Freepik!!
Unacceptable for me.
The Freepik brand ambassador is gone and Jake is trying to put back together the rift his inclusion started.
Jake is a video producer and new-ish to this so didn't have a clue just what a toxic issue Freepik was. He's trying to regroup & move forward.
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on June 10, 2020, 16:35
And for anyone that thinks deleting their images is useless this is what most of the pictures on SS look like. Most of the database is just garbage they accepted to make it look big. If we can delete around 10 million of quality pictures it will really hurt SS in the long run. Buyers will stop getting subscription if they can't find anything usable.
There's always the entertainment value of some of the filler Shutterstock is trying to plug the holes with :)
https://twitter.com/joannsnover/status/1270803461227999232
Post by: NeonRobot on June 10, 2020, 17:17
https://www.microstockgroup.com/shutterstock-com/stop-uploading-to-ss-join-the-action/ (https://www.microstockgroup.com/shutterstock-com/stop-uploading-to-ss-join-the-action/)
Post by: cathyslife on June 10, 2020, 19:24
Freepik and ss now have much in common 8)
And yes we must turn off imagery faster, coz they profit 3 times faster.
I have seen now that the group
https://www.facebook.com/groups/261369748434285 (https://www.facebook.com/groups/261369748434285)
has a new administrator: a brand ambassador of Freepik!!
Unacceptable for me.
The Freepik brand ambassador is gone and Jake is trying to put back together the rift his inclusion started.
Jake is a video producer and new-ish to this so didn't have a clue just what a toxic issue Freepik was. He's trying to regroup & move forward.
Yes, I applaud Jake, he’s doing a good job. Glad the Freepik guy left. I rejoined this morning. But you are right, it’s exactly like herding cats. Lots of one-upmanship going on, with the writing of letters, etc. I will just continue tweeting and re-tweeting, that’s all I have time (and patience) for right now.
Post by: NeonRobot on June 10, 2020, 22:39
According to stats dumbheads continue to upload.
They are hopeless.
Post by: CrFx on June 11, 2020, 02:12
Freepik and ss now have much in common 8)
And yes we must turn off imagery faster, coz they profit 3 times faster.
I have seen now that the group
https://www.facebook.com/groups/261369748434285 (https://www.facebook.com/groups/261369748434285)
has a new administrator: a brand ambassador of Freepik!!
Unacceptable for me.
The Freepik brand ambassador is gone and Jake is trying to put back together the rift his inclusion started.
Jake is a video producer and new-ish to this so didn't have a clue just what a toxic issue Freepik was. He's trying to regroup & move forward.
Who knows it's a dark strategy of freepik? Something is cooking fishy.
Post by: mike935 on June 11, 2020, 03:28
Post by: Whiskybottle on June 11, 2020, 05:57
Come January those $0.10 sales will go down again when we're all reset to level 1
Must go, got a lot of uploads to do elsewhere lol
Post by: Justanotherphotographer on June 11, 2020, 06:05
Your port should be like this.Looking at vectors uploaded by date most of the new stuff seems to be utter garbage from factories.
According to stats dumbheads continue to upload.
They are hopeless.
Was it always like this or is it a product of anyone who values their working stopping uploading?
Post by: NeonRobot on June 11, 2020, 07:20
Post by: Shelma1 on June 11, 2020, 07:39
Post by: CommuniCat on June 11, 2020, 08:22
Post by: whtvr on June 11, 2020, 09:04
Post by: Wine_wine on June 11, 2020, 10:30
There is a new petition with detailed demands. The old one was answered by SS but we don't take this kind of answer!
PLEASE SIGN IT AND JOIN US ON JUNE 15TH.
https://www.change.org/p/change-the-humiliating-system-of-royalties-for-shutterstock-contributors?utm_content=cl_sharecopy_22720021_ru-RU%3Av5&recruiter=1113722355&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=share_petition&utm_term=share_petition (https://www.change.org/p/change-the-humiliating-system-of-royalties-for-shutterstock-contributors?utm_content=cl_sharecopy_22720021_ru-RU%3Av5&recruiter=1113722355&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=share_petition&utm_term=share_petition)
PS: can anyone help me understand how I can create a new topic on SS boar here? Cannot find New Topic button-(
Post by: Mimi the Cat on June 11, 2020, 11:11
Well I seem to have lost interest in uploading to SS (and their BS sidekick)
Come January those $0.10 sales will go down again when we're all reset to level 1
Must go, got a lot of uploads to do elsewhere lol
The crazy joke is that you can now make more money per download on Bigstock than you can on their parent company shitterstock! ::)
Post by: zsooofija on June 11, 2020, 11:23
I thought it'd be nice to let this person know about his image being sold by an other "contributor"
The author of the image: https://unsplash.com/@petewright (https://unsplash.com/@petewright)
The other contributor's image, accepted by SS:
https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/pete-wright-zeyma01zsvc-unsplash-jpg-1617540907 (https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/pete-wright-zeyma01zsvc-unsplash-jpg-1617540907)
Post by: microvideo on June 11, 2020, 11:52
Anyone with an Unsplash account here?
I thought it'd be nice to let this person know about his image being sold by an other "contributor"
The author of the image: https://unsplash.com/@petewright (https://unsplash.com/@petewright)
The other contributor's image, accepted by SS:
https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/pete-wright-zeyma01zsvc-unsplash-jpg-1617540907 (https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/pete-wright-zeyma01zsvc-unsplash-jpg-1617540907)
You can contact him on his website.
https://www.rashpixel.photo/ (https://www.rashpixel.photo/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=unsplash)
The contact link is on the footer.
Post by: zsooofija on June 11, 2020, 11:59
Anyone with an Unsplash account here?
I thought it'd be nice to let this person know about his image being sold by an other "contributor"
The author of the image: https://unsplash.com/@petewright (https://unsplash.com/@petewright)
The other contributor's image, accepted by SS:
https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/pete-wright-zeyma01zsvc-unsplash-jpg-1617540907 (https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/pete-wright-zeyma01zsvc-unsplash-jpg-1617540907)
You can contact him on his website.
https://www.rashpixel.photo/ (https://www.rashpixel.photo/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=unsplash)
The contact link is on the footer.
Thanks, I just did.
Post by: Rage on June 11, 2020, 12:15
Continue to downvote all their actions on social media.Can we also rate their apps on google play store and istore, it should be a callout everywhere.
People started that and the main app dropped from 4 to 3.5 stars and SS started using bought reviews to pad it up. So its definitely something they care about and is very visible.
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Post by: Brasilnut on June 11, 2020, 12:21
Thieves haven't stopped uploading there...nice title buddy lol
https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/pete-wright-zeyma01zsvc-unsplash-jpg-1617540907 (https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/pete-wright-zeyma01zsvc-unsplash-jpg-1617540907)
Ugh, how disgusting to receive this email from them.
Post by: alexandersr on June 11, 2020, 12:56
And for anyone that thinks deleting their images is useless this is what most of the pictures on SS look like. Most of the database is just garbage they accepted to make it look big. If we can delete around 10 million of quality pictures it will really hurt SS in the long run. Buyers will stop getting subscription if they can't find anything usable.Well this kind of photos could be useful for someone?
Post by: gameover on June 11, 2020, 13:07
https://stock.adobe.com/de/stock-photo/id/269596670
Nothing exceptional, but today I sold it at Adobe, receiving 0.99 Euro instead of 0.10 USD.
Don't be your cheap competitor ;)
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on June 11, 2020, 13:32
Yesterday I deleted this image at shutterstock
https://stock.adobe.com/de/stock-photo/id/269596670
Nothing exceptional, but today I sold it at Adobe, receiving 0.99 Euro instead of 0.10 USD.
Don't be your cheap competitor ;)
https://twitter.com/joannsnover/status/1271146648186400768
Post by: CommuniCat on June 11, 2020, 13:39
https://www.pond5.com/stock-footage/item/75180206-african-stock-video-rural-young-children-washing-hands (https://www.pond5.com/stock-footage/item/75180206-african-stock-video-rural-young-children-washing-hands)
Post by: gameover on June 11, 2020, 13:47
Now, this is a fun game. We just sold this file on Pond5 and received $76-80. It's no longer available on Shutterstock. Don't be your cheap competitor.:D
https://www.pond5.com/stock-footage/item/75180206-african-stock-video-rural-young-children-washing-hands (https://www.pond5.com/stock-footage/item/75180206-african-stock-video-rural-young-children-washing-hands)
Post by: Dumc on June 11, 2020, 14:11
Post by: Horizon on June 11, 2020, 14:18
And for anyone that thinks deleting their images is useless this is what most of the pictures on SS look like. Most of the database is just garbage they accepted to make it look big. If we can delete around 10 million of quality pictures it will really hurt SS in the long run. Buyers will stop getting subscription if they can't find anything usable.
Correct! but if nothing else to just accept and give in would be crazy because the next to cut us down would be Adobe and so on!
Post by: Wine_wine on June 12, 2020, 01:51
Please stay strong and don't let SS kill the whole industry. I would better leave SS completely rather than risk other microstock agencies.
Post by: art_of_sun on June 12, 2020, 02:13
Please support and share!
(https://assets.change.org/photos/3/xf/as/YhxfasyzQGkoDqH-800x450-noPad.jpg)
Post by: NeonRobot on June 12, 2020, 04:02
Post by: NeonRobot on June 12, 2020, 15:08
At list we should persuade them to stop uploading stuff.
Post by: whtvr on June 12, 2020, 15:39
Post by: NeonRobot on June 12, 2020, 22:38
https://fokas-pokas.livejournal.com/1894.html
For chrome you will need Tampermonkey extension:
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tampermonkey/dhdgffkkebhmkfjojejmpbldmpobfkfo
For other browsers - Greasemonkey extension:
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greasemonkey
Bonus: how to remove from ss guide
https://youtu.be/BokWySasDPk
Post by: blue on June 13, 2020, 05:08
ssRemover: script for easy removing files from rotten ss.Just tried it, great tool ! Thanks for sharing
https://fokas-pokas.livejournal.com/1894.html
For chrome you will need Tampermonkey extension:
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tampermonkey/dhdgffkkebhmkfjojejmpbldmpobfkfo
For other browsers - Greasemonkey extension:
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greasemonkey
Bonus: how to remove from ss guide
https://youtu.be/BokWySasDPk
Post by: Brasilnut on June 13, 2020, 07:21
https://brutallyhonestmicrostock.com/2020/06/13/shutterstock-earnings-cut-hitting-them-where-it-hurts/
Post by: cobalt on June 13, 2020, 09:16
Some new ideas I've been brainstorming and happy to share.
https://brutallyhonestmicrostock.com/2020/06/13/shutterstock-earnings-cut-hitting-them-where-it-hurts/
I like it, but could you please add a section about the most powerful weapon: stop uploading.
This is the easiest thing to do, even for those who really need the money right now. Instead, everyone can upload and focus and share links to the agencies that support us.
The upload volume has dropped to below one million, let us see what SS does when that number goes down to 500 000 or less...
It is also the thing many artists can keep up for a few weeks.
It is amazing they still totally refuse to talk to contributors, but withholding content is IMO the strongest to demonstrate to all agencies who controls the content.
Post by: whtvr on June 13, 2020, 09:27
Some new ideas I've been brainstorming and happy to share.
https://brutallyhonestmicrostock.com/2020/06/13/shutterstock-earnings-cut-hitting-them-where-it-hurts/
Here is a better idea. Deactivate your 10.000+ images and 1000+ videos before offering advice to others.
Post by: Shelma1 on June 13, 2020, 10:06
Some new ideas I've been brainstorming and happy to share.
https://brutallyhonestmicrostock.com/2020/06/13/shutterstock-earnings-cut-hitting-them-where-it-hurts/
I like it, but could you please add a section about the most powerful weapon: stop uploading.
This is the easiest thing to do, even for those who really need the money right now. Instead, everyone can upload and focus and share links to the agencies that support us.
The upload volume has dropped to below one million, let us see what SS does when that number goes down to 500 000 or less...
It is also the thing many artists can keep up for a few weeks.
It is amazing they still totally refuse to talk to contributors, but withholding content is IMO the strongest to demonstrate to all agencies who controls the content.
Not only has he not disabled his port (and his blog post says he doesn’t plan to, not even on June 15), he’s actively uploading new images. His port has an editorial shot dated June 6, 2020.
Post by: Clair Voyant on June 13, 2020, 10:54
Some new ideas I've been brainstorming and happy to share.
https://brutallyhonestmicrostock.com/2020/06/13/shutterstock-earnings-cut-hitting-them-where-it-hurts/
With all due respect, you do realize you are shooting yourself in the foot by supporting Shutterstock.
Post by: Brasilnut on June 13, 2020, 11:26
Some new ideas I've been brainstorming and happy to share.
https://brutallyhonestmicrostock.com/2020/06/13/shutterstock-earnings-cut-hitting-them-where-it-hurts/
I like it, but could you please add a section about the most powerful weapon: stop uploading.
This is the easiest thing to do, even for those who really need the money right now. Instead, everyone can upload and focus and share links to the agencies that support us.
The upload volume has dropped to below one million, let us see what SS does when that number goes down to 500 000 or less...
It is also the thing many artists can keep up for a few weeks.
It is amazing they still totally refuse to talk to contributors, but withholding content is IMO the strongest to demonstrate to all agencies who controls the content.
Not only has he not disabled his port (and his blog post says he doesn’t plan to, not even on June 15), he’s actively uploading new images. His port has an editorial shot dated June 6, 2020.
Yes, I'm guilty of uploading 5 (five) editorials in June. Please give me a lenient sentence! I've stopped uploading btw...
For the record, nobody knows yet how bad the drop in earnings will be...what if it's just 5%-10%? That's why we need to share as much earnings income as possible using big data to make informed decisions. As mentioned on my blog post (please don't be angry anti-SS mob), my ODDs are coming in at higher than pre-June, although more data is needed. In a few months we'll have a great idea of just how far we've lost out.
The real damage will likely come in January though when everybody is back at Level I and that's when, if it's not too late and the stats show that the drop is substantial (20%+ on average), we should all work together to deactivate then so it shows a huge huge drop on the first of the month. The goal is 10 million images deactivated...we can even have a hashtag #SS10million or something like that.
Post by: Clair Voyant on June 13, 2020, 11:37
Post by: Shelma1 on June 13, 2020, 11:47
Some new ideas I've been brainstorming and happy to share.
https://brutallyhonestmicrostock.com/2020/06/13/shutterstock-earnings-cut-hitting-them-where-it-hurts/
I like it, but could you please add a section about the most powerful weapon: stop uploading.
This is the easiest thing to do, even for those who really need the money right now. Instead, everyone can upload and focus and share links to the agencies that support us.
The upload volume has dropped to below one million, let us see what SS does when that number goes down to 500 000 or less...
It is also the thing many artists can keep up for a few weeks.
It is amazing they still totally refuse to talk to contributors, but withholding content is IMO the strongest to demonstrate to all agencies who controls the content.
Not only has he not disabled his port (and his blog post says he doesn’t plan to, not even on June 15), he’s actively uploading new images. His port has an editorial shot dated June 6, 2020.
Yes, I'm guilty of uploading 5 (five) editorials in June. Please give me a lenient sentence! I've stopped uploading btw...
For the record, nobody knows yet how bad the drop in earnings will be...what if it's just 5%-10%? That's why we need to share as much earnings income as possible using big data to make informed decisions. As mentioned on my blog post (please don't be angry anti-SS mob), my ODDs are coming in at higher than pre-June, although more data is needed. In a few months we'll have a great idea of just how far we've lost out.
The real damage will likely come in January though when everybody is back at Level I and that's when, if it's not too late and the stats show that the drop is substantial (20%+ on average), we should all work together to deactivate then so it shows a huge huge drop on the first of the month. The goal is 10 million images deactivated...we can even have a hashtag #SS10million or something like that.
In your blog post you say you’re not willing to shut off your port even for a week because you don’t want to lose $100 after all your hard work. And there’s an entire thread here of people reporting their huge drop in earnings. We don’t need your six months of stats to see what’s happening. Very few people are willing to lose tons of money over the next six months to take action in 2021. I’m sure there’ll be a second wave of outrage then, but things are snowballing now and now’s the time to strike, not in January when SS has had six months to pump up their library to twice the size with a huge flood of similars.
Post by: cobalt on June 13, 2020, 11:47
I deactivated video straight away, so I have no data for now. set photos to off today.
eveyrwhere I read, income is severely down. the only exception I have seen where a few people with over 50 000 files. for them, at least by what I read, it seems to be 5-15% down.
but a lot of people do stock part time. the quality of their work has not changed.
the prices to customers are unchanged as well.
like jo ann says...everything else - the dividend,plush office,luxury salaries is not affected. just us. This is not a struggling company.
so..I will not upload for a few weeks or even months. mot a big drama, there are enough other agencies.
i might switch on either photo or video at a later date, but for now I have joined the protest.
the january reset will hit everyone.
do you really want that?
eta: oh come on brasilnut - just one week? please reconsider.
Post by: Les on June 13, 2020, 12:00
1. I agree fully with the deactivation of ports on June 15. Even if SS has 320 million images, deleting your A-class images or entire portfolios will have a measurable effect, since most of the remaining images are either similars or garbage. I haven't deactivated my port yet, but will do it on June 15. Watching the sales for the first ten days in June, not only the average selling prices went down, but also the number of downloads was reduced. Way down!
2. The other way to hit them is to spread the word to the buyers and shareholders. What SS is doing, is not only a poor long-term business decision, it is also highly unethical. Many investors are now looking at their investments from this type of angle, and switching to more ethical companies. Most creative professionals who buy images and videos have a sense of fairness and once they realize what SS is doing, they will change their purchasing practices and switch to more responsible agencies.
3. Lastly, when you have such unethical company, even the employees will realize that their salaries are made on back of exploited contributors and their moral will go down. Next step for them is to wait how long before they will be shafted. No decent person would want to work for such a company.
Post by: PokemonMaster on June 13, 2020, 12:31
ssRemover: script for easy removing files from rotten ss.Is SS blocked it already? It worked for me earlier, but not anymore.
https://fokas-pokas.livejournal.com/1894.html
For chrome you will need Tampermonkey extension:
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tampermonkey/dhdgffkkebhmkfjojejmpbldmpobfkfo
For other browsers - Greasemonkey extension:
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greasemonkey
Bonus: how to remove from ss guide
https://youtu.be/BokWySasDPk
Post by: cathyslife on June 13, 2020, 13:49
Is SS blocked it already? It worked for me earlier, but not anymore.
I turned my images off last week, then I got a notice that I was going to get a payment, so I turned them back, worried that they would withhold the payment. After the pmt. was in my bank, I went back to turn them off, and I just kept getting a message that I turned them on and off too many times. one time? I tried for 4 days, and they never worked again. Meanwhile, I deleted all images except one. I left my account open, because some people were reporting that images that had been rejected were showing up in their port. I want to monitor that.
Post by: cascoly on June 13, 2020, 15:48
I dislike the raised fist especially because clients and people out of microstock will see it. We are/were not emploees of Shuterstock. We are/were contracted partners. Know where you stand in order not to harm the cause you fight for.
the raised fist has a long history of opposition to oppression of all sorts, historically, against laissez-faire capitalism - isn't that what this boycott is about?
Post by: angelawaye on June 13, 2020, 16:27
All of our videos now also turned off at Shutterstock. Awaiting some answers from Pond5 but we will probably go exclusive for video there shortly.I just went exclusive with video at Pond5. I created a new account then emailed them with the new account info and they migrated my files over to my new, exclusive account.
Post by: NeonRobot on June 13, 2020, 23:59
Delete.
Spread.
Don't listen to dumb ones.
Post by: PokemonMaster on June 14, 2020, 01:15
I mean, deleting script is not working anymore.Is SS blocked it already? It worked for me earlier, but not anymore.
I turned my images off last week, then I got a notice that I was going to get a payment, so I turned them back, worried that they would withhold the payment. After the pmt. was in my bank, I went back to turn them off, and I just kept getting a message that I turned them on and off too many times. one time? I tried for 4 days, and they never worked again. Meanwhile, I deleted all images except one. I left my account open, because some people were reporting that images that had been rejected were showing up in their port. I want to monitor that.
Post by: blue on June 14, 2020, 04:55
It works for me (Chrome with Tampermonkey extension on Mac).I mean, deleting script is not working anymore.Is SS blocked it already? It worked for me earlier, but not anymore.
I turned my images off last week, then I got a notice that I was going to get a payment, so I turned them back, worried that they would withhold the payment. After the pmt. was in my bank, I went back to turn them off, and I just kept getting a message that I turned them on and off too many times. one time? I tried for 4 days, and they never worked again. Meanwhile, I deleted all images except one. I left my account open, because some people were reporting that images that had been rejected were showing up in their port. I want to monitor that.
The script is executed in your browser (client side) so SS has no way to block it.
Post by: Brasilnut on June 14, 2020, 07:02
Port = 10,000 images and 1,000 clips.
Post by: gameover on June 14, 2020, 07:51
Getting a head start on D-Day.thank you! I think it was a difficult decision. it is good for the self-esteem :)
Post by: Mantis on June 14, 2020, 08:18
Disable.
Delete.
Spread.
Don't listen to dumb ones.
I'll be there in spirit. Already disabled 7,000 assets. Hoping for a flood of good, quality work being killed tomorrow (June 15th).
Post by: AdamM on June 14, 2020, 09:21
One thing I have noticed that there's very little talk about is the ridiculous 4K video subscription plan which allows customers, who surely aren't that honest regarding usage, to get high quality video, in bulk, for rock bottom prices. I feel they could have taken a half measure on this one and made the price competitive enough that it wouldn't be a fire sale, but would be low enough to increase the net profit based on increased volume.
So far with photo, the ODD's are seeming to make up for the crappy sub downloads, and although I need more time to see the results and calculate, I think my revenue has increased in terms of photo. Come Jan though, I won't be singing that tune I think.
Anyway, I think the real big steal here is video, and no one seems to be talking about it. Anyone wants to contribute their 2 cents to this....
Post by: gameover on June 14, 2020, 09:52
Now abruptly with my surprise I sell again.
I just deleted this two images (manually, together with other 3000) from my Shutterstock port few days ago.
(https://vintage-nostalgia.com/123rf.jpg)
Is 'don't be your cheap competitor ' a good mantra?
Post by: Rage on June 14, 2020, 11:19
Just disabled my account. Wrote SS a little letter as well. Kinda goes without saying its a bit like Winston in 1984 level of drop in the bucket in the middle of the Pacific, however needed to have a personal emotional venting.That is combined with the really crazy levels for video. You get 35% for images on crossing 2500 sales, however for video that number is 5000 sales?
One thing I have noticed that there's very little talk about is the ridiculous 4K video subscription plan which allows customers, who surely aren't that honest regarding usage, to get high quality video, in bulk, for rock bottom prices. I feel they could have taken a half measure on this one and made the price competitive enough that it wouldn't be a fire sale, but would be low enough to increase the net profit based on increased volume.
So far with photo, the ODD's are seeming to make up for the crappy sub downloads, and although I need more time to see the results and calculate, I think my revenue has increased in terms of photo. Come Jan though, I won't be singing that tune I think.
Anyway, I think the real big steal here is video, and no one seems to be talking about it. Anyone wants to contribute their 2 cents to this....
WHY, does vid suddenly start selling more than images at the 30% level? Did some intern just dream up the numbers after a night out. Or did they want to share a very explicit middle finger to vid contributors (you'll never get above 30% HAR HAR)
Sent from my HD1901 using Tapatalk
Post by: U11 on June 14, 2020, 11:45
but I disabled my port on SS today as a sign of solidarity and support of the right cause
Post by: Shelma1 on June 14, 2020, 11:56
Post by: U11 on June 14, 2020, 12:22
Dollar Photo Club died and iStock shrunk substantially. How this “changed nothing” I don’t know.but both still selling pictures for peanuts,
% contributor gets is low,
it is much harder to remove/disable your pictures there - watch SS removing the option in near future
first we killed traditional stock business, now "uber economy" is killing microstock for us
we just need to move out and let people who appreciate 10 cents earnings enjoy their ride
Post by: cobalt on June 14, 2020, 12:36
The producers control the content and are very rational, agencies that pay badly get little content.
Post by: alijaber on June 14, 2020, 12:45
My tiny images port (80 images only) was disabled on 1st June.
Post by: derby on June 14, 2020, 13:06
good luck
Post by: Rage on June 14, 2020, 13:30
go through the twitter hashtags with #shutterstock #BoycottShutterstock #nolongeratshutterstock and like (heart) all the posts that support the movement. Liking it exponentially increases the reach. Retweet also if you can. Lets be heard tomorrow
Bonus tip, tag key news providers in your country
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Post by: AdamM on June 14, 2020, 14:53
I am disabling my account for the following reasons:
- The new 'stick and carrot' tier system that is basically a pyramid scheme to get contributors to work harder for less.
- The recent addition of 4K video subscriptions, which highly undervalue content that customers would literally have to spend thousands of dollars to create themselves (per clip). The payouts on these clips will never be made up for by volume and do nothing but lower the bar for the entire industry and reinforce the customer expectation that they deserve the closest thing they can get to free content.
- The apparent shareholder gains that clearly resulted in the recent earnings structure change.
- All of this either being introduced/maintained during one of the worst times of financial hardship most people have seen since 2008.
As a video contributor I have to stress how much I disagree with the new video subscription packages.
I understand some customers need quick and easy content, and I might be willing to entertain the sale of my content for low res web use at SD quality for such small amounts. However, for 4K or HD video, I feel that this is still high demand/quality content that needs to be labelled as such. I would be open to a sale price drop to increase competitiveness and overall volume as long as the net revenue went up but I think this new subscription plan is lowering the bar to an unacceptable degree.There is no way that any increase in volume will make up for the decrease in return per download.
Furthermore, Shutterstock is well aware most contributors sell much less video than photo, and that video yields a much higher profit per download than photo. The new tier system affects video earnings for contributors in a much more significant way. The new changes purport to provide incentives for contributors to produce better content, but I can't see how there is an incentive if most contributors, even with a reasonable amount of effort, will end up losing out on the average annual commission percentage, even if they do make it to 30%. The losses are even more pronounced when you take in account investment into high end photo equipment, models, lighting, and other expenses to create a quality video/photo.
What I would hope for is an end to the annual reset, the abolishment of 4K video subs in place of a lowered price option for large clip packs that result in a increased profit for both a parties, and increased focus on valid customer usage of content.
You guys need to realize that just because you are the biggest game in town doesn't mean every single person is going to go along with your method to up your shareholder's stock. Yes, Shutterstock helped people earn a supplemental income, or even create a living, but the company would be nothing without the efforts of those that put in work to make it what it is. Just remember that.
Regards,
Adam Melnyk.
Post by: familienfotos.at on June 14, 2020, 15:36
I do not know how to run this business without SS - but I will try now :-)
Post by: cobalt on June 14, 2020, 15:46
Post by: Ronib on June 14, 2020, 15:53
My impassioned yet most likely ineffectual letter to the folks at Shutterstock:
I am disabling my account for the following reasons:
- The new 'stick and carrot' tier system that is basically a pyramid scheme to get contributors to work harder for less.
- The recent addition of 4K video subscriptions, which highly undervalue content that customers would literally have to spend thousands of dollars to create themselves (per clip). The payouts on these clips will never be made up for by volume and do nothing but lower the bar for the entire industry and reinforce the customer expectation that they deserve the closest thing they can get to free content.
- The apparent shareholder gains that clearly resulted in the recent earnings structure change.
- All of this either being introduced/maintained during one of the worst times of financial hardship most people have seen since 2008.
As a video contributor I have to stress how much I disagree with the new video subscription packages.
I understand some customers need quick and easy content, and I might be willing to entertain the sale of my content for low res web use at SD quality for such small amounts. However, for 4K or HD video, I feel that this is still high demand/quality content that needs to be labelled as such. I would be open to a sale price drop to increase competitiveness and overall volume as long as the net revenue went up but I think this new subscription plan is lowering the bar to an unacceptable degree.There is no way that any increase in volume will make up for the decrease in return per download.
Furthermore, Shutterstock is well aware most contributors sell much less video than photo, and that video yields a much higher profit per download than photo. The new tier system affects video earnings for contributors in a much more significant way. The new changes purport to provide incentives for contributors to produce better content, but I can't see how there is an incentive if most contributors, even with a reasonable amount of effort, will end up losing out on the average annual commission percentage, even if they do make it to 30%. The losses are even more pronounced when you take in account investment into high end photo equipment, models, lighting, and other expenses to create a quality video/photo.
What I would hope for is an end to the annual reset, the abolishment of 4K video subs in place of a lowered price option for large clip packs that result in a increased profit for both a parties, and increased focus on valid customer usage of content.
You guys need to realize that just because you are the biggest game in town doesn't mean every single person is going to go along with your method to up your shareholder's stock. Yes, Shutterstock helped people earn a supplemental income, or even create a living, but the company would be nothing without the efforts of those that put in work to make it what it is. Just remember that.
Regards,
Adam Melnyk.
Post by: Lina on June 14, 2020, 15:55
Post by: KoKi on June 14, 2020, 16:10
Post by: selensergen on June 14, 2020, 16:14
All off closed! And I will never upload again.
Post by: Zalee on June 14, 2020, 16:53
For all of you that actually earn a lot of money at SS I hope they will realise they have made a mistake as everyone votes with their disabling finger. Good luck!
Post by: fotoroad on June 14, 2020, 18:20
...I do not want lose fight with disrespecting and stupidity.
Post by: Elijah on June 14, 2020, 18:38
13.975 images
140 videos.
Stopped uploading since June 1st.
Post by: Les on June 14, 2020, 19:17
Post by: Greg Epperson on June 14, 2020, 19:34
Post by: steheap on June 14, 2020, 19:56
Steve
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on June 14, 2020, 21:15
I've just deactivated my 14,500 assets
Steve
I tweeted a link to your blog post
https://twitter.com/joannsnover/status/1272351845764063232
Post by: alids on June 14, 2020, 21:22
Post by: angelawaye on June 14, 2020, 21:54
Post by: PhotoBomb on June 14, 2020, 22:00
I also have been deleting images over 2k.
And I have now turned off my remaining portfolio of 8600 images and my wife's portfolio of 4600 images.
That represents over $165k in lifetime earnings and 235,007 DL's.
Post by: NeonRobot on June 14, 2020, 22:34
Keep rockin' b#tches!
Post by: PokemonMaster on June 14, 2020, 22:35
Post by: NeonRobot on June 15, 2020, 00:03
http://www.microstock.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=20309&page=39 (http://www.microstock.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=20309&page=39)
Post by: Chichikov on June 15, 2020, 00:10
I don't understand why so many of you waited until today to close your portfolios.
Mine (7000+) has been deactivated for 10 days, and will certainly not be reactivated in a week!
Post by: NeonRobot on June 15, 2020, 00:14
Congratulations to all those who finally deactivated their portfolio!!you don't get it - month minimum.
I don't understand why so many of you waited until today to close your portfolios.
Mine (7000+) has been deactivated for 10 days, and will certainly not be reactivated in a week!
Post by: Chichikov on June 15, 2020, 00:50
Congratulations to all those who finally deactivated their portfolio!!you don't get it - month minimum.
I don't understand why so many of you waited until today to close your portfolios.
Mine (7000+) has been deactivated for 10 days, and will certainly not be reactivated in a week!
What didn't I understand?
What is the point of procrastinating for 15 days?
Why do only today what could (should) have been done 10 or 15 days ago?
Minimum one month? My portfolio will remain disabled until we get a clear answer from Shutterstock, at least they tell us exactly how things are (It could be a month, two months, or forever. )... 15,200 posts on the Shutterstock forum and still no answer.
Many say they will only deactivate their portfolio for a week.
I understand that for some it's difficult to do more, but many can do it and many don't.
In fact, if they did a little math, they would realize that, that considering the amortization of their equipment and the cost of running their business, by earning 10¢ a sale, they are working at a loss.
But I understand that for some it's difficult to do more, that they're worried about doing so.
This is a difficult step for those who are desperate. There are people who really live on it and have nothing else (I'm not sure that many of us here do).
In fact, Shutterstock plays a lot on this psychological aspect. They're a bunch of bаstаrds!
Those who can do it, a month, two months or more have a duty to do it for those who cannot do it.
That's what solidarity is all about.
Post by: MicroVet on June 15, 2020, 01:18
In fact I went exclusive with Pond5 about a week ago, so the videos will not go up anyway.
Post by: PigsInSpace on June 15, 2020, 01:23
488 images
97 videos
Post by: Les on June 15, 2020, 01:30
Congratulations to all those who finally deactivated their portfolio!!
I don't understand why so many of you waited until today to close your portfolios.
Mine (7000+) has been deactivated for 10 days, and will certainly not be reactivated in a week!
Waiting 14 days was useful in seeing how the new earning levels affect the commissions. Not in a good way.
Post by: NeonRobot on June 15, 2020, 01:36
Congratulations to all those who finally deactivated their portfolio!!
I don't understand why so many of you waited until today to close your portfolios.
Mine (7000+) has been deactivated for 10 days, and will certainly not be reactivated in a week!
Waiting 14 days was useful in seeing how the new earning levels affect the commissions. Not in a good way.
5-10 sales in 2 days showed up everything in detail.
Post by: blue on June 15, 2020, 01:54
Post by: eyewave on June 15, 2020, 02:02
Videos are gone for 2 weeks already.
Post by: NeonRobot on June 15, 2020, 02:10
Activity of Russian speaking community could be monitored here:
[url]http://www.microstock.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=20309&page=39[/url] ([url]http://www.microstock.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=20309&page=39[/url])
Frankly speaking activity is MUCH higher than at microstockgroup forum.
People are really angry.
Post by: DigitalPro on June 15, 2020, 02:37
Post by: PokemonMaster on June 15, 2020, 02:40
What didn't I understand?You don't understand the difference between personal war and organized protest. First is effective for a person, if he/she think so. The second - is a way to solve problem. We do it all at once to show we are unite.
What is the point of procrastinating for 15 days?
Why do only today what could (should) have been done 10 or 15 days ago?
Post by: mike123 on June 15, 2020, 02:42
Videos already deactivated on June 1, but I only had a few low quality ones.
Post by: NeonRobot on June 15, 2020, 03:06
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2613...34285/?fref=nf (https://www.facebook.com/groups/2613...34285/?fref=nf)
Post by: vectorsforall on June 15, 2020, 03:19
I guess they will disappear soon
$131,473 lifetime and 211,731 downloads since december 2010
No way going from $0,38 to $0,10 subscriptions sales! They should have set them to $0,42 instead to thanks their big contributors >:(
Post by: Snow on June 15, 2020, 03:36
Best seller over 9k downloads with second best over 5.5k downloads since 2014.
Video portfolio was already disabled end of May.
A week though? no for me as long as it takes even if that means forever and it probably will.
Respect to all of you who took and are taking action!
For some it's easy, for others it was/is a very difficult decision to make but in the end we all did what was/is best in this situation.
I have seen some great portfolio's being disabled from known faces (way back when I started)
I have also noticed that those who were once featured on SS have done nothing. Maybe they got a deal or they just don't care about any of this. They are successful in other areas besides Microstock so can afford to take action but apparently choose not to do so. These were people I once admired but now I have a totally different opinion of them.
Post by: Snow on June 15, 2020, 03:40
Just disabled 2874 vectors and 2363 motion graphics and animations. (https://www.shutterstock.com/g/benchart?rid=709372 (https://www.shutterstock.com/g/benchart?rid=709372))
I guess they will disappear soon
$131,473 lifetime and 211,731 downloads since december 2010
No way going from $0,38 to $0,10 subscriptions sales! They should have set them to $0,42 instead to thanks their big contributors >:(
Again Respect!
All our efforts will not go in vain!
Post by: Newsfocus1 on June 15, 2020, 03:57
Russian microstock community reports: 250000 portfolio by Paul Smith just disabled.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2613...34285/?fref=nf (https://www.facebook.com/groups/2613...34285/?fref=nf)
Quarter of a million celebrity images gone in one click. Way to go Paul :)
Post by: Chichikov on June 15, 2020, 04:01
What didn't I understand?You don't understand the difference between personal war and organized protest. First is effective for a person, if he/she think so. The second - is a way to solve problem. We do it all at once to show we are unite.
What is the point of procrastinating for 15 days?
Why do only today what could (should) have been done 10 or 15 days ago?
A lot of people did it together 10 or 15 days ago to show they're united... I was one of them.
It only took me two or three days to understand what the situation was and where we were going. It wasn't really very difficult, a little personal experience helped by some historical users of the forum (Jo Ann before any other) allowed me to understand very quickly how it was going to end.
And as I wrote several times, I didn't do it for me, I don't give a crap about my earnings with Shutterstock, my real earnings are quite different.
But hey, better late than never....
And it also makes me think that if we really want to act this way, it might be interesting to organise successive and regular waves, to increase the pressure a little more each week.
But I don't think a forum or a Facebook page, even if it's a good start, is enough.
We need to contact and raise awareness, especially among the players in the sector, creative people, advertising agencies, journalists in the photographic, video and graphics sector. Some are already doing this. More needs to be done. Spreading the word is important, we can't just discuss it among ourselves, it doesn't lead to much, let's not get too many illusions.
What worries me a lot is that at the end of the day, few people in the Microstock world are really aware of the situation. Every day I see, on the Shutterstock forum, people still asking "what's going on?", people who are completely ignorant of the situation. There are a lot of them.
I've also realized that among those who know about Shutterstock, there are a lot of people who don't know about AdobeStock or Alamy, or whatever. And that's probably true among the customers as well.
So there's still a lot to do, but we have to act as quickly as possible, we have to strike while the iron is hot!
Post by: vectorsforall on June 15, 2020, 04:30
Post by: Les on June 15, 2020, 04:33
We need to contact and raise awareness, especially among the players in the sector, creative people, advertising agencies, journalists in the photographic, video and graphics sector. Some are already doing this. More needs to be done. Spreading the word is important, we can't just discuss it among ourselves, it doesn't lead to much, let's not get too many illusions.
What worries me a lot is that at the end of the day, few people in the Microstock world are really aware of the situation. Every day I see, on the Shutterstock forum, people still asking "what's going on?", people who are completely ignorant of the situation. There are a lot of them.
So there's still a lot to do, but we have to act as quickly as possible, we have to strike while the iron is hot!
Also show SSTK as unethical company on the investment forums, such as finance.yahoo.com, ...
Sold all my SSTK holdings and won't buy it again. Bought ADBE instead.
Post by: NeonRobot on June 15, 2020, 04:58
Post by: vectorsforall on June 15, 2020, 05:59
Post by: NeonRobot on June 15, 2020, 06:12
Someone has an idea about how long that it takes for the deactivated portfolio to be not viewable on SS ?15000 profile erased for about 3-4 days. And yes it depends on current load of their web server.
Post by: Shelma1 on June 15, 2020, 06:22
http://shuttercounter.ddns.net (http://shuttercounter.ddns.net)
Post by: Roscoe on June 15, 2020, 07:08
Was heading towards a really good month in sales volume while income and RPD felt more like a stock market crash played on FF, making it look like it's not the 15th of June but the 7th of June.
I don't think these little acts of protest will make them change their minds, but hey, because I'm not depending on this income, the least I can do is support and sympathize with the ones that are depending on it but deactivate their ports anyhow.
Post by: marthamarks on June 15, 2020, 08:32
Chart with the numbers falling:
[url]http://shuttercounter.ddns.net[/url] ([url]http://shuttercounter.ddns.net[/url])
Is there any chart showing the whole picture from the end of May, when many of us started deactivating our ports?
Post by: Shelma1 on June 15, 2020, 08:41
Chart with the numbers falling:
[url]http://shuttercounter.ddns.net[/url] ([url]http://shuttercounter.ddns.net[/url])
Is there any chart showing the whole picture from the end of May, when many of us started deactivating our ports?
I don't know. And now something seems to have happened...it shows a huge plunge only today, and stats aren't updating.
Post by: PokemonMaster on June 15, 2020, 08:48
Chart with the numbers falling:
[url]http://shuttercounter.ddns.net[/url] ([url]http://shuttercounter.ddns.net[/url])
It needs to be fixed. I see all dots on the same level. But they contain different data.
Post by: Chichikov on June 15, 2020, 08:59
Post by: Atomazul on June 15, 2020, 09:09
Permanently deleted my top selling images, continuing to delete my best quality images selectively.
Just disabled my remaining 2000 images for the cause.
Post by: Shelma1 on June 15, 2020, 10:07
I didn't quite get it, is this an official Shutterstock graph?
I don't believe so. Someone posted it on the coalition page. Odd that it seems to be malfunctioning today, when so many are disabling their ports.
Post by: NeonRobot on June 16, 2020, 03:48
https://www.microstockgroup.com/shutterstock-com/shutterstock-blackout-2nd-phase-22-28 (https://www.microstockgroup.com/shutterstock-com/shutterstock-blackout-2nd-phase-22-28)
plz upvote post for better visibility
Post by: mino216 on June 16, 2020, 04:48
https://artmino.com/boycottshutterstock-more-than-2-of-images-disappeared/
Post by: Dumc on June 16, 2020, 04:56
Post by: Desintegrator on June 16, 2020, 05:10
In my case, earning drops are not very severe, June will probably be below average month but it does not seem tragical so far. Average price per image dropped a lot but the amount of sales increased. Nevertheless, there is still small amount of data to do better conclusions. Have not disabled whole portfolio but will disable videos at first (considering images as well).
https://artmino.com/boycottshutterstock-more-than-2-of-images-disappeared/
Don't forget that this new system allows SS to discount as much as they want, to grab market share from agencies paying more fairly!
Post by: blue on June 16, 2020, 05:36
Amount of sales increased because other people are disabling their portsPure speculation
Post by: mino216 on June 16, 2020, 06:14
Amount of sales increased because other people are disabling their ports, and now you're capitalising on that.
I am not so sure (not saying that there is zero corelation). The fact is that sales went up before the start of this boycott (the size of database almost have not changed). I have already disabled video port and stopped uploads now, but I am still keeping the image portfolio for a while. I do not rule out the possibility to disable image port soon as well.
Post by: Ides on June 16, 2020, 11:41
Amount of sales increased because other people are disabling their portsPure speculation
I stopped uploading new images. I will wait until the end of the month to have more accurate data. However, I noticed an absurd drop in sales. And the sales that are still happening, are from subscriptions 0.10. If it continues... by the end of the month I will disable my images. Sales are not increasing, they are falling. :-\
Post by: Reckless on June 16, 2020, 11:52
Post by: cascoly on June 16, 2020, 23:32
Amount of sales increased because other people are disabling their ports, and now you're capitalising on that.ROFLMAO - the tiny decrease in files hardly affects my sales, which remain at the lvl as before this 'boycott'
Post by: cascoly on June 16, 2020, 23:47
In my case, earning drops are not very severe, June will probably be below average month but it does not seem tragical so far. Average price per image dropped a lot but the amount of sales increased. Nevertheless, there is still small amount of data to do better conclusions. Have not disabled whole portfolio but will disable videos at first (considering images as well).
https://artmino.com/boycottshutterstock-more-than-2-of-images-disappeared/
same here --. june is abou tsame as previous 6 months - lower than previous year
Post by: PokemonMaster on June 17, 2020, 00:48
Let me guess, you cant wait for the January, when you can tell everyone that your earnings are doubled?Amount of sales increased because other people are disabling their ports, and now you're capitalising on that.ROFLMAO - the tiny decrease in files hardly affects my sales, which remain at the lvl as before this 'boycott'
Post by: mike935 on June 17, 2020, 05:53
Post by: Chichikov on June 17, 2020, 07:49
I noticed that while we are protesting against injustice on the part of Shutterstock, there are people who continue to upload their images to Shutterstock. They couldn't even wait a month? Are they really nuts? And if the Second World War were going on, whose side would they be on?.. :-\
You know, some people like to get tied up and then get whipped with a cat o' nine tails…
Post by: Snow on June 17, 2020, 09:47
I noticed that while we are protesting against injustice on the part of Shutterstock, there are people who continue to upload their images to Shutterstock. They couldn't even wait a month? Are they really nuts? And if the Second World War were going on, whose side would they be on?.. :-\
Yup also sad but true, prostitutes seem to have more moral then these people but then this is Microstock so it doesn't surprise me in the least.
Don't worry the protest group is expanding as well and I think more images are being deactivated then uploaded, well that is if you take out the spam first!
Post by: alexandersr on June 17, 2020, 09:59
I noticed that while we are protesting against injustice on the part of Shutterstock, there are people who continue to upload their images to Shutterstock. They couldn't even wait a month? Are they really nuts? And if the Second World War were going on, whose side would they be on?.. :-\
They are hungry slaves! > >:(
Post by: cascoly on June 17, 2020, 11:14
I noticed that while we are protesting against injustice on the part of Shutterstock, there are people who continue to upload their images to Shutterstock. They couldn't even wait a month? Are they really nuts? And if the Second World War were going on, whose side would they be on?.. :-\
a new low!!! (w many pluses? ) so now if you don't support the boycott you're a nazi? shame!!!
Post by: Thomas from France on June 17, 2020, 11:32
Attention please: Godwin point approachingI noticed that while we are protesting against injustice on the part of Shutterstock, there are people who continue to upload their images to Shutterstock. They couldn't even wait a month? Are they really nuts? And if the Second World War were going on, whose side would they be on?.. :-\
a new low!!! (w many pluses? ) so now if you don't support the boycott you're a nazi? shame!!!
Post by: cathyslife on June 17, 2020, 12:54
I noticed that while we are protesting against injustice on the part of Shutterstock, there are people who continue to upload their images to Shutterstock. They couldn't even wait a month? Are they really nuts? And if the Second World War were going on, whose side would they be on?.. :-\
a new low!!! (w many pluses? ) so now if you don't support the boycott you're a nazi? shame!!!
Almost as bad as if you upload to SS you are a slave. 🙄
Post by: PokemonMaster on June 17, 2020, 13:22
a new low!!! (w many pluses? ) so now if you don't support the boycott you're a nazi? shame!!!Well, if someone trying to make profit on people, who decided to starve in protest... You name it.
Post by: WebSubstance on June 17, 2020, 14:43
I'm also going to recommend my clients to not buy from SS.
Post by: PokemonMaster on June 20, 2020, 08:33
The reason is Shutterstock (NYSE:SSTK) ends its fiscal 2nd quarter 30 June 2020
They will have to publish some metrics. They will have to show the base decrease if we were good. If our blackout will be not enough, they will show the base growth decrease anyway. As far as I know, base growth was never decreased before. That's why we continue the boycott.
For those who can't hold any longer, I ask you to act again. Disable the portfolios for 27-30 June. So we can drop the base growth and became visible for the shareholders. There will be a weekend, so I hope you will not lose much sales.
Post by: cathyslife on June 20, 2020, 20:35
Post by: harshithdwivedi on June 21, 2020, 03:43
#boycottShutterstock
P.S. Can we get this hashtag to trend on twitter?
Post by: Rage on June 21, 2020, 08:23
I just deleted my account yesterday.We definitely should, make sure to like all posts with the hashtag, retweet the ones you can, follow accounts that are posting regularly with that hashtag like jo anns. Ensure you put in posts with the hashtag as well.
#boycottShutterstock
P.S. Can we get this hashtag to trend on twitter?
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Post by: NeonRobot on June 21, 2020, 10:53
https://www.microstockgroup.com/shutterstock-com/shutterstock-blackout-2nd-phase-22-28 (https://www.microstockgroup.com/shutterstock-com/shutterstock-blackout-2nd-phase-22-28)
Post by: Noedelhap on June 22, 2020, 06:58
I just deleted my account yesterday.
#boycottShutterstock
P.S. Can we get this hashtag to trend on twitter?
You'd need the K-Pop fan community to make things trend on Twitter. Does anyone have any connection to someone who can mobilize that army?
Post by: NeonRobot on June 22, 2020, 08:54
I just deleted my account yesterday.
#boycottShutterstock
P.S. Can we get this hashtag to trend on twitter?
You'd need the K-Pop fan community to make things trend on Twitter. Does anyone have any connection to someone who can mobilize that army?
Everything will be removed in a snap.
Like crappy fb blocked information regarding ss.
Post by: fritz on June 22, 2020, 09:24
https://twitter.com/jonoringer/status/1275038378828992512
Post by: NeonRobot on June 22, 2020, 10:59
OMG I can't believe I read this! Game over, period
https://twitter.com/jonoringer/status/1275038378828992512
Please stay with us at least till Jul 8
Post by: fritz on June 22, 2020, 13:23
OMG I can't believe I read this! Game over, period
https://twitter.com/jonoringer/status/1275038378828992512
Please stay with us at least till Jul 8
I meant SS is hopeless case, no more upload there
Post by: PokemonMaster on June 22, 2020, 13:44
OMG I can't believe I read this! Game over, periodLooks like the game is just started.
https://twitter.com/jonoringer/status/1275038378828992512
Post by: Raymond on June 25, 2020, 07:00
Post by: mike935 on July 02, 2020, 05:01
Post by: Charlene on July 02, 2020, 05:28
If it is true that there are more than a million contributors on Shutterstock, only a few thousand of them have disabled their portfolios, most have stopped uploading, and a small portion continue to upload, then disabling the portfolio or suspending the upload is all about self-respect and common sense.
I have referred over 2000 contributors to Shutterstock. Out of these 2000, 90% of them have 0 image.
And out of this 10%, only about 2% have over 100 images.
And probably only a few of them among these 2000 contributors have over 1000 images.
So in conclusion, there's only about 1% of serious contributor out of this 1 million contributors. That work out to be only 10000 contributors that are really serious. Of course, there's still many thousands who are not serious that continue to upload.
Shutterstock usually have about 2million new images per week, now it has gone down to 800k. That's a major impact actually. That means more than 50% of contributor are revolting in one way or another.
You must also understand that with the scarcity of new good images, SS is now accepting lousy images to fulfill their "quota". And even with that, they only manage to get 800k approved.
Post by: mike935 on July 02, 2020, 05:44
If it is true that there are more than a million contributors on Shutterstock, only a few thousand of them have disabled their portfolios, most have stopped uploading, and a small portion continue to upload, then disabling the portfolio or suspending the upload is all about self-respect and common sense.
I have referred over 2000 contributors to Shutterstock. Out of these 2000, 90% of them have 0 image.
And out of this 10%, only about 2% have over 100 images.
And probably only a few of them among these 2000 contributors have over 1000 images.
So in conclusion, there's only about 1% of serious contributor out of this 1 million contributors. That work out to be only 10000 contributors that are really serious. Of course, there's still many thousands who are not serious that continue to upload.
Shutterstock usually have about 2million new images per week, now it has gone down to 800k. That's a major impact actually. That means more than 50% of contributor are revolting in one way or another.
You must also understand that with the scarcity of new good images, SS is now accepting lousy images to fulfill their "quota". And even with that, they only manage to get 800k approved.
Charlene, thank you for your answer!
Post by: cascoly on July 02, 2020, 17:18
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You must also understand that with the scarcity of new good images, SS is now accepting lousy images to fulfill their "quota". And even with that, they only manage to get 800k approved.
SS accepting lousy images has been going on for years, with many threads here about it, not a recent phenom
Post by: cobalt on July 02, 2020, 18:07
If it is true that there are more than a million contributors on Shutterstock, only a few thousand of them have disabled their portfolios, most have stopped uploading, and a small portion continue to upload, then disabling the portfolio or suspending the upload is all about self-respect and common sense.
Over 15 years they accumulated 1.2 million contributor accounts and 1.9 million buyer accounts.
But the majority will be dead accounts on both sides. How many times a year do you sign up for a website somewhere and then never go back again?
All these platforms originally started as exchange for designers who shared their work with each other to save expenses.
The actual number of producers and buyers is much smaller.
Every year there will of course be new amateurs by the thousands trying to upload their holiday images, but many give up when they see how much work it is.
This is a very small industry.
If the uploads have dropped by 50% and a lot of people closed good quality ports, that is a pretty amazing result.
Post by: cobalt on July 02, 2020, 18:19
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You must also understand that with the scarcity of new good images, SS is now accepting lousy images to fulfill their "quota". And even with that, they only manage to get 800k approved.
SS accepting lousy images has been going on for years, with many threads here about it, not a recent phenom
But they are now taking 30 similar images of an out of focus mushroom in the grass. It was never like that. They must be desperate to keep the numbers up.
Post by: cascoly on July 02, 2020, 18:54
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You must also understand that with the scarcity of new good images, SS is now accepting lousy images to fulfill their "quota". And even with that, they only manage to get 800k approved.
SS accepting lousy images has been going on for years, with many threads here about it, not a recent phenom
But they are now taking 30 similar images of an out of focus mushroom in the grass. It was never like that. They must be desperate to keep the numbers up.
of course it was - remember the hundreds of marijuana pix? do some research before making claims - the truth is out there