Author Topic: Stop uploading to SS & join the action: JUN 15 -21 (Read 50091 times)

Justanotherphotographer · « **Reply #50 on:** June 08, 2020, 11:40 »

Can we please just stop attacking each other!!!

Clair Voyant · « **Reply #51 on:** June 08, 2020, 11:47 »

Quote from: Justanotherphotographer on June 08, 2020, 11:40

Can we please just stop attacking each other!!!

Pointing out the hypocrisy is noble. You either support SS in these ridiculous terms or you don't. To be here pretending you don't but do nothing about is to be noted, it is not an attack. Actions speak much louder than words. I have respect for anyone who disabled their account. It is an action that takes courage no matter how big or small your port is.

Just goes to prove the dog with the biggest bark has no bite.

zorba · « **Reply #52 on:** June 08, 2020, 12:02 »

"together we stand, divided we fall" (cit.)

https://www.facebook.com/groups/261369748434285

GrayMouse · « **Reply #53 on:** June 08, 2020, 12:04 »

Quote from: Justanotherphotographer on June 08, 2020, 11:40

Can we please just stop attacking each other!!!

You seems to be over-sensitive

NeonRobot · « **Reply #54 on:** June 08, 2020, 12:06 »

Do the job, 'nough of useless quarrels.

whtvr · « **Reply #55 on:** June 08, 2020, 12:26 »

Before throwing the PP article writer in the flames, wonder this. Why the informed PP people allowed this controversial article? I believe for clicks. As youtubers rush to upload as bloggers rush to publish relevant work. Feed them with your anger your comments your time your clicks.

For microstockers you missed tagging in second PP article. TAGS: CHRISTOPHERJAMESHALL, INDUSTRY, MICROSTOCK, OPED, OPINION, SHUTTERSTOCK, STOCK, TRENDS
It is tagged "microstock" in contrast with first article on the matter that will be buried with TAGS: ANGER, ANGRY, CONTROVERSY, EARNINGS, EARNINGSSTRUCTURE, FURIOUS, PERCENTAGE, PETITION, ROYALTIES, ROYALTYSTRUCTURE, SHUTTERSTOCK"

Plus a nice CC0 (this from Pexels) image on top as usual. Not even fricking 0,10¢ for you people. You cannot choose your enemy but you can choose your friends wise. And not everyone currently mentioning or even accusing Shutterstock is your friend.

Shelma1 · « **Reply #56 on:** June 08, 2020, 12:30 »

For years I’ve helped fight royalty cuts, written petitions, deleted thousands of images on multiple sites in protest, gotten on the phone with VPs from Shutterstock to insist they stop allowing keyword spamming, reached out to dozens of buyers to encourage them to license our work from agencies that give us better royalties, etc. I stopped uploading to Shutterstock more than a year ago over their skewed algorithms and have deleted thousands of vectors from my portfolio, and was planning to shut it off June 15 because I feel doing an action together in one day has more impact. When Jake asked for volunteers to help in the Facebook group I was the only one who responded.

My thanks for this is to have people here call me a hypocrite and repeatedly try to join the coalition on Facebook just to ask me why I haven’t shut down my port rather than doing something constructive.

But I’m done now. Jake’s on his own with 2,500 people who complain endlessly and attack other people but won’t lend him a hand. Go scratch.

cathyslife · « **Reply #57 on:** June 08, 2020, 12:47 »

Lots of people comment on stuff before they even read all the posts. If dumc had been following posts here and on fb, he/she would have known that a bunch of people were waiting to do a united shut-off.

zsooofija · « **Reply #58 on:** June 08, 2020, 13:01 »

Quote from: Shelma1 on June 08, 2020, 12:30

But I’m done now. Jake’s on his own with 2,500 people who complain endlessly and attack other people but won’t lend him a hand. Go scratch.

Please don't leave. You are doing a great job, and at least you volunteered to help,while noone else did in a group of 2500 (I was thinking about it, but I think you need a better English than mine for this kind of task).

I am thankful for what you are doing if that counts.

microvideo · « **Reply #59 on:** June 08, 2020, 15:47 »

I uploaded some editorial videos that I was not going to use at all. It usually takes up to 5 days to review. They reviewed them the same day. That means people really have stopped uploading to SS. They rejected almost everything for reasons that don't make sense . Lesson learned should've stopped uploading too. Not uploading anymore.

NeonRobot · « **Reply #60 on:** June 08, 2020, 16:18 »

They deleting comments, turn off dislikes, ban people.
Don't even think to begin uploading or i will slap your #ss!

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #61 on:** June 08, 2020, 16:37 »

It's like herding cats, trying to keep a group of independent stock artists focused & together

I hope that anyone thinking that they can just stay and upload more to make up the difference (someone on the Stock Submitter Coalition said exactly that) does a little math. This is what I posted in reply to them

You cannot fix this royalty cut by uploading more.

Look at the worst case where you used to get 38¢ and now you only get 10¢. You now need an additional 2.8 times the downloads - almost three times your current downloads!

Buyers won't want more images - not three times more images anyway - just because Shutterstock slashed royalties.

So your only way out of this pickle, if you really believe you can do this, is to be so much better and more relevant than your fellow contributors that you can siphon off their downloads to get the multiple you need to keep your income.

Don't even think about growing your income - you'll do well to just run in place.

Do the math. You can't outrun this

microvideo · « **Reply #62 on:** June 08, 2020, 16:38 »

I'm deleting my images. My top 3 have 3329, 1411 and 1001 downloads. The second one is my best seller in AS.
I haven't had video sales in June yet so I want to see how bad is for video before deleting them but it doesn't look good. They're introducing a $9 per video subscription.

Brasilnut · « **Reply #63 on:** June 08, 2020, 16:53 »

Thieves haven't stopped uploading there...nice title buddy lol

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/pete-wright-zeyma01zsvc-unsplash-jpg-1617540907

microvideo · « **Reply #64 on:** June 08, 2020, 16:57 »

I'm tempted to upload some images to unsplash an other free sites but leaving them on SS. Then track down people that have bought the image on SS and tell them hey do you know SS is charging you for free content.

microvideo · « **Reply #65 on:** June 08, 2020, 17:03 »

Quote from: Brasilnut on June 08, 2020, 16:53

Thieves haven't stopped uploading there...nice title buddy lol

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/pete-wright-zeyma01zsvc-unsplash-jpg-1617540907

Or someone could look for all te images from free sites that are also on SS and spread the word on main design sites on how they're charging for something that is free.

Brasilnut · « **Reply #66 on:** June 08, 2020, 17:07 »

Quote from: microvideo on June 08, 2020, 16:57

I'm tempted to upload some images to unsplash an other free sites but leaving them on SS. Then track down people that have bought the image on SS and tell them hey do you know SS is charging you for free content.

I'm sure Pete Wright wouldn't be very happy about some turds licensing his free content.

https://unsplash.com/photos/zeyMA01ZSvc

cathyslife · « **Reply #67 on:** June 08, 2020, 17:09 »

I had about 1000 images on SS, and started deleting my best sellers a couple of months ago. I thought SS deleted the rest, but I was mistaken. Anyway, just finished deleting all but a few today. Will wait for the server to catch up, and will leave a couple duds up and the account open. I want to do that because I’ve seen some people posting that they’ve deleted their images, but later, some are added back. I want to be able to monitor that for awhile. I have no trust in them anymore. It’s not a big port, but I’m not willing to take $.10. $.38 was bad enough.

microvideo · « **Reply #68 on:** June 08, 2020, 17:12 »

Quote from: Brasilnut on June 08, 2020, 17:07

Quote from: microvideo on June 08, 2020, 16:57
I'm tempted to upload some images to unsplash an other free sites but leaving them on SS. Then track down people that have bought the image on SS and tell them hey do you know SS is charging you for free content.

I'm sure Pete Wright wouldn't be very happy about some turds licensing his free content.

https://unsplash.com/photos/zeyMA01ZSvc

I'm letting him know, feel free to do so as well:
https://unsplash.com/@petewright

obj owl · « **Reply #69 on:** June 08, 2020, 17:15 »

Quote from: microvideo on June 08, 2020, 17:03

Quote from: Brasilnut on June 08, 2020, 16:53
Thieves haven't stopped uploading there...nice title buddy lol

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/pete-wright-zeyma01zsvc-unsplash-jpg-1617540907

Or someone could look for all te images from free sites that are also on SS and spread the word on main design sites on how they're charging for something that is free.

Shutterstock do not have a problem with selling public domain status images, but do have a problem with public domain status images that have not been verified as such.

Desintegrator · « **Reply #70 on:** June 08, 2020, 17:16 »

Quote from: microvideo on June 08, 2020, 17:03

Quote from: Brasilnut on June 08, 2020, 16:53
Thieves haven't stopped uploading there...nice title buddy lol

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/pete-wright-zeyma01zsvc-unsplash-jpg-1617540907

Or someone could look for all te images from free sites that are also on SS and spread the word on main design sites on how they're charging for something that is free.

I know we are all angry with Shutterstock, rightfully so... but i don't think promoting free sites would be a good strategy for us.

cathyslife · « **Reply #71 on:** June 08, 2020, 17:35 »

Quote from: NeonRobot on June 08, 2020, 02:12

Quote from: Tabimura on June 07, 2020, 10:29
I'm in. 44000 images portfolio. Videos (2000) are already disabled and will stay that way.

I've got some reports from Russian community that opting out currently unavailable.
Quote: Sorry, there was an issue saving your latest changes. Please try again.

There is a suggestion to strike today, because fat ones could remove this option in nearest future. What do you think?

Disabling was turned off for me too. It said I had turned it on and off too many times, try later. For four days it said that. No matter, I have deleted my images.

ADH · « **Reply #72 on:** June 08, 2020, 18:12 »

For years SS has been subsidizing Istock, most of the contributors I know used to upload their same portfolio to SS and IS, they used to get the big$$$ from SS and residual earnings from IS. IS pays a 15% flat rate to their independent contributors. SS could not compete with a company who paid a fraction to the contributors that SS used to pay,
What happened today is the fault of the contributors who uploaded their work to every possible image bank regardless of how much they pay.
For SS to remain competitive they must lowered their commissions to Istock standards.
This is the raw reality.

PokemonMaster · « **Reply #73 on:** June 09, 2020, 00:30 »

Quote from: obj owl on June 08, 2020, 17:15

Shutterstock do not have a problem with selling public domain status images, but do have a problem with public domain status images that have not been verified as such.

Shutterstock DO have problems with Public Domain photos. It's forbidden by TOS. Imagine we all download the same photos from Unsplash and upload the same to multiple ports. It is clearly breaks the inner SS rules, not the law. But guys from Unsplash don't know it, so please inform.

Sorry for offtop.

NeonRobot · « **Reply #74 on:** June 09, 2020, 02:18 »

SS DATABASE STATS:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Sx80IDLCr0-1_ie1a17Rtm4m9fgUwglaxHdyNy2lDCc/htmlview#gid=0

On wiki article they were downgraded on the list:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microstock_photography

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Author Topic: Stop uploading to SS & join the action: JUN 15 -21 (Read 50091 times)

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zsooofija

microvideo

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Brasilnut

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Brasilnut

cathyslife

microvideo

obj owl

Desintegrator

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ADH

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