Slave is a very valid word that can be used for a modern day experience. Don't get confused with 'being enslaved'.

Quote from: blue on June 24, 2020, 02:01

Quote from: epixx on June 23, 2020, 17:38

Someone at Stock Submitter Coalition captured the tweet below before it was deleted. It's a chilling reminder of what we are. We are the slaves, and we should keep working no matter what the pay is. I'm no Communist, but this is the very reason why Karl Marx published Das Kapital back in 1867. We are back in the same situation as industrial workers of the 19th Century together with Uber drivers and other participants of the growing gig economy.

Please stop comparing contributors to slaves. We are free, slaves are not. And they do not get any pay at all.

Slaves are given food and place to sleep, so they are paid. Slaves can go from point a (place to sleep) to point b (place to work), so they are free. We just have an illusion of freedom.

tell that to any REAL slave!!!!  while, in the ancient world, slavery was different (eg, in Rome, slaves could earn money and eventually buy their freedom) - 'modern' colonial/capitalist slavery is a crime against humanity and here in the US we're still dealing with the evils of slavery over 150 yrs after the 13th amendment abolished slavery

A definition of slavery, as I see it is a term that fits this situation very well, whether you agree with it or not

A condition of having to work very hard without proper remuneration or appreciation

of course that's the THIRD definition! and it's then a metaphor, not a reality  - many people talk about being wage-slaves but none of them would actually think they ARE slaves

Quote from: pics2 on June 24, 2020, 06:31

Quote from: blue on June 24, 2020, 02:01

Quote from: epixx on June 23, 2020, 17:38

Someone at Stock Submitter Coalition captured the tweet below before it was deleted. It's a chilling reminder of what we are. We are the slaves, and we should keep working no matter what the pay is. I'm no Communist, but this is the very reason why Karl Marx published Das Kapital back in 1867. We are back in the same situation as industrial workers of the 19th Century together with Uber drivers and other participants of the growing gig economy.

Please stop comparing contributors to slaves. We are free, slaves are not. And they do not get any pay at all.

Slaves are given food and place to sleep, so they are paid. Slaves can go from point a (place to sleep) to point b (place to work), so they are free. We just have an illusion of freedom.

tell that to any REAL slave!!!!  while, in the ancient world, slavery was different (eg, in Rome, slaves could earn money and eventually buy their freedom) - 'modern' colonial/capitalist slavery is a crime against humanity and here in the US we're still dealing with the evils of slavery over 150 yrs after the 13th amendment abolished slavery

Same thing just the boss has a bigger land today so some get false sense of freedom.

If you kid was sick at that time you might been lucky and the lord would pay a doctor at list for his future profit, or at least say NO in your face. Today you get an automated reply from a robot.

Same thing going on just a bit more sophisticated.

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For what it's worth, anyone using "slavery" language in connection with #BoycottShutterstock is hurting our overall cause
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This. We have to think strategically, it isn't helping win over customers, garner sympathy and therefore increase pressure on Shutterstock, so how true it is not really relevant to whether we should be using it on social media.

Even more so with with BLM comparisons.

There are tons of other effective ways to message this without resorting to Shutterstock's own tactics of appropriation. Some examples:

1. Pushing back on SS's hypocrisy in forming "socially responsible" partnerships with charity organisations while mistreating their workers and employees (i.e. acting in the least socially responsible way possible where they actually have power). Contact their partners whenever SS posts and let them know this isn't helping their image.

2. Stories of real world impact of these changes on the lives of the most vulnerable people (that single mothers working from home for example).

3. Posting about deactivations and why you are doing it

4. Contextualising Shutterstock's actions in a broader narrative of corporations trying to cynically appropriate good causes while acting mercilessly in their own sphere in the middle of a pandemic.

5. Pushing back on the narrative that SS has paid out lots of money to contributors, contributors have actually paid their agent a massive percentage to market their work.

and lots of others

Right they paid out $1B to contributors. Not a word about the fact that they also made billions of dollars from contributors. Or the fact that Jon became a billionaire from contributors.

And that's the whole problem. They don't see this as mutual partnership. They see themselves as the ruler who provides all of the value and us as the peasant workers who are expendable and worthless.

Without them we wouldn't have the opportunity to earn money from them. We would however have the opportunity to earn money from our media from other places. But if they didn't have our media, there would be no Shutterstock and probably no billionaire Jon.

The King of Nerds is underexposed, overexposed, or is inconsistently exposed.