Author Topic: The new low. Less than $14 for EL. Top earnings tier. (Read 16057 times)

BelieveInStock · « **on:** March 21, 2016, 08:26 »

Some days ago I got a bit over $13 for EL. This is extreme. It is over 50% pay-cut and I am on the highest tier, I can't imagine what it would be if I was on first royalty level.

sharpshot · « **Reply #1 on:** March 21, 2016, 08:38 »

Has anyone noticed an increase in the number of EL's? I haven't

angelawaye · « **Reply #2 on:** March 21, 2016, 08:40 »

I don't have to worry because I opted out ...

PZF · « **Reply #3 on:** March 21, 2016, 08:45 »

Haven't seen an EL for months. A few decent SODS...but ELs? Zilch.

BelieveInStock · « **Reply #4 on:** March 21, 2016, 08:45 »

Quote from: sharpshot on March 21, 2016, 08:38

Has anyone noticed an increase in the number of EL's? I haven't

Maybe a bit of increase in the number of EL, but it doesn't compensate financially the huge loss in commission.

sgoodwin4813 · « **Reply #5 on:** March 21, 2016, 08:47 »

I haven't had an EL on SS since they made the change so it certainly hasn't stimulated anything, although of course my numbers are small. This month they are way down on everything, and the ratio of subs has also increased dramatically this month from what it had been the past few months. If this continues I will make more on Canva than SS this month - that would be a first.

Shelma1 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 21, 2016, 08:52 »

Yesterday I got an SOD for 38¢.

Ariene · « **Reply #7 on:** March 21, 2016, 09:09 »

I also do not worry about low ELs on Shutterstock anymore. OPTed OUT asap after the "amazing news" showed up.

Monty-m-gue · « **Reply #8 on:** March 21, 2016, 09:22 »

Quote from: sharpshot on March 21, 2016, 08:38

Has anyone noticed an increase in the number of EL's? I haven't

Why would there be an increase in EL's? SS didn't reduce the price to clients to stimulate such an effect. Rather, they simply cut royalties for contributors.

jamiehooper · « **Reply #9 on:** March 21, 2016, 16:32 »

I'm caring less and less all the time. SS used to make more in a month 4 years ago (when I started) than FT, BS, and DT combined.
I have 20% more images on Shutterstock than Fotolia....and FT has been a bigger earner EVERY month for the past half year. Right now (20th of the month) my earnings are almost twice (90%) that of SS.
When people I meet ask me what I do, I say "I play the stock market."

obj owl · « **Reply #10 on:** March 21, 2016, 16:42 »

Quote from: BelieveInStock on March 21, 2016, 08:26

Some days ago I got a bit over $13 for EL. This is extreme. It is over 50% pay-cut and I am on the highest tier, I can't imagine what it would be if I was on first royalty level.

If you are willing to accept $13 how much do you think they will be willing to pay you?

Nikovsk · « **Reply #11 on:** March 21, 2016, 17:01 »

Not only that, I just realized SS is giving away 1 photo/vector every week for non paying customers.

No wonder we're seeing less and less OD's. Why pay when you can get 4 photos for free every month?

noodle · « **Reply #12 on:** March 21, 2016, 17:06 »

Quote from: obj owl on March 21, 2016, 16:42

Quote from: BelieveInStock on March 21, 2016, 08:26
Some days ago I got a bit over $13 for EL. This is extreme. It is over 50% pay-cut and I am on the highest tier, I can't imagine what it would be if I was on first royalty level.

If you are willing to accept $13 how much do you think they will be willing to pay you?

This is exactly what you are giving them permission to do when you opt in.
Only one to blame for this is that handsome person inthe mirror

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #13 on:** March 21, 2016, 17:10 »

Just a reminder; if you opt out of ELs and a customer requests one, you will get e-mail from support asking if they can process it for you. You don't have to opt back in. I turned down one at $22 and accepted two at $40 each - my policy now is to say yes if the royalty is $28 or higher

noodle · « **Reply #14 on:** March 21, 2016, 17:33 »

^^ smart woman

Aspenphoto · « **Reply #15 on:** March 21, 2016, 19:11 »

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on March 21, 2016, 17:10

Just a reminder; if you opt out of ELs and a customer requests one, you will get e-mail from support asking if they can process it for you. You don't have to opt back in. I turned down one at $22 and accepted two at $40 each - my policy now is to say yes if the royalty is $28 or higher

Good information. I have opted out and stopped uploading entirely to SS since the 'news' broke. Focus on working for companies and individuals that value you and your work. SS does not...that is clear.

fotografer · « **Reply #16 on:** March 22, 2016, 02:22 »

Quote from: Aspenphoto on March 21, 2016, 19:11

Focus on working for companies and individuals that value you and your work. SS does not...that is clear.

Good luck with finding that in the stock world

Chichikov · « **Reply #17 on:** March 22, 2016, 02:29 »

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on March 21, 2016, 17:10

Just a reminder; if you opt out of ELs and a customer requests one, you will get e-mail from support asking if they can process it for you. You don't have to opt back in. I turned down one at $22 and accepted two at $40 each - my policy now is to say yes if the royalty is $28 or higher

Good to know, thank you.

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Is it possible to discuss the price then?
For example to tell the customer that you agree to sell the photo as EL but not for less that $30?

Microstockphoto · « **Reply #18 on:** March 22, 2016, 02:37 »

the majority of buyers will resource another image for extended licence instead of going through a cumbersome process of contacting support and hoping the contributors plays ball. anway on average i am down on el earnings so ss is the winner here ,no surprise

Aspenphoto · « **Reply #19 on:** March 30, 2016, 21:26 »

I opted out of the el sales right after the bs "opportunity" message they sent. I am in the "top tier" and today I was told someone wanted to use a photo of mine on s textbook under an el and I would receive a grand total of $1.80 for the sale. That is the new low - I can't wrap my head around how far ss has fallen

Rinderart · « **Reply #20 on:** March 31, 2016, 16:28 »

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on March 21, 2016, 17:10

Just a reminder; if you opt out of ELs and a customer requests one, you will get e-mail from support asking if they can process it for you. You don't have to opt back in. I turned down one at $22 and accepted two at $40 each - my policy now is to say yes if the royalty is $28 or higher

YEP

stockastic · « **Reply #21 on:** March 31, 2016, 20:39 »

Quote from: Aspenphoto on March 30, 2016, 21:26

I opted out of the el sales right after the bs "opportunity" message they sent. I am in the "top tier" and today I was told someone wanted to use a photo of mine on s textbook under an el and I would receive a grand total of $1.80 for the sale. That is the new low - I can't wrap my head around how far ss has fallen

Unbelieveable. Except, it no longer is.

They haven't gotten any new photos from me in a very long time and they'll never get another.

noodle · « **Reply #22 on:** March 31, 2016, 21:00 »

Quote from: Rinderart on March 31, 2016, 16:28

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on March 21, 2016, 17:10
Just a reminder; if you opt out of ELs and a customer requests one, you will get e-mail from support asking if they can process it for you. You don't have to opt back in. I turned down one at $22 and accepted two at $40 each - my policy now is to say yes if the royalty is $28 or higher

YEP

?

I dont think you have opted out of el from what i recall

so wth does 'yep' mean?

Dumc · « **Reply #23 on:** April 29, 2016, 08:00 »

Got my first EL after changes. 22,57$ in case someone is interested....

Justanotherphotographer · « **Reply #24 on:** April 29, 2016, 13:23 »

They are definitely warming to the idea of marketing ELs for rock bottom prices now. My average comission for an EL has been sliding ever since the announcement.

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Author Topic: The new low. Less than $14 for EL. Top earnings tier. (Read 16057 times)

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Jo Ann Snover

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