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Ron

« on: June 24, 2013, 07:51 »
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For me a first. At this moment I have more ODDs than subs.  :D


« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2013, 08:25 »
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Good for you!  I'm not even close to that, not even if I add up ODD's and SOD's, but that's mainly because my ODD's seem to be slowly dying since the last Most Popular change  :'(

WarrenPrice

« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2013, 09:12 »
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We seem to be on separate servers, Ron -- when your sales go up, mine go down.
The few ODs that I have are the small and medium variety.
My DLs are normal but dollars are WAY down.


dbvirago

« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2013, 09:18 »
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For me a first. At this moment I have more ODDs than subs.  :D
Same here, and they are all at the 1.24 rate which is also strange

Ron

« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2013, 10:04 »
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Aaah subs overtook odds. Go on odds.....

dbvirago

« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2013, 10:08 »
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I'm all tied up now, top of the 1st, bases loaded. Need an EL to knock it out of the park

Ron

« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2013, 10:22 »
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Yes. An EL would make it BME for me most likely

« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2013, 12:01 »
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An odd (no, not ODD) month for me. Long stretches of no sales after a couple of bonanza* months. I think they've tweaked the search algorithm again haven't they?





*Bonanza months for me are probably completely different to bonanza months for you.

« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2013, 12:51 »
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They tweaked something as my previous best seller went from upper half of page one to top of page 2.  (it has  been slowly sliding down from the first line of page one ever since it was kicked off of relevant (for at least the first 10 pages or so)). Unfortunately this is one of the seasons for sales for it, so this might be the end for that file. oh well, it was a nice run while it lasted.

Last weekend was particularly low, but it also seems like more variability in sales this month than previously. Almost like they are moving to a DT sort of system where they turn various ports on and off for subs and OD sales.

WarrenPrice

« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2013, 16:29 »
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They tweaked something as my previous best seller went from upper half of page one to top of page 2.  (it has  been slowly sliding down from the first line of page one ever since it was kicked off of relevant (for at least the first 10 pages or so)). Unfortunately this is one of the seasons for sales for it, so this might be the end for that file. oh well, it was a nice run while it lasted.

Last weekend was particularly low, but it also seems like more variability in sales this month than previously. Almost like they are moving to a DT sort of system where they turn various ports on and off for subs and OD sales.

Yep... does seem that way.

« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2013, 17:08 »
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so far this month 58% income outside subs

Ron

« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2013, 01:12 »
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First DL of the new day is an ODD. Lol

« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2013, 09:02 »
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And I'm back in the game...

An ODD yesterday and a few subs today. Keep posting Ron, you're doing me good.

« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2013, 09:46 »
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So you have them all, Ron... .  ;)
Mine are way down... .

« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2013, 10:15 »
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Only thing down for me this month are SODs. Had a decent amount last month. I think they dropped the Single part of it. I don't see it as an option anymore. The smallest package I see now is 2 images for $29. They used to have one for $19.

« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2013, 10:24 »
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Only thing down for me this month are SODs. Had a decent amount last month. I think they dropped the Single part of it. I don't see it as an option anymore. The smallest package I see now is 2 images for $29. They used to have one for $19.

please tell us where you are seeing those packages, I can only see online subs, els and ods plans, nothing on sods, from a discussion the other day we got to the conclusion it is impossible to know if there is even a standard in terms of prices, just too many different amounts that contributors are having

Ron

« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2013, 11:53 »
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Only thing down for me this month are SODs. Had a decent amount last month. I think they dropped the Single part of it. I don't see it as an option anymore. The smallest package I see now is 2 images for $29. They used to have one for $19.

please tell us where you are seeing those packages, I can only see online subs, els and ods plans, nothing on sods, from a discussion the other day we got to the conclusion it is impossible to know if there is even a standard in terms of prices, just too many different amounts that contributors are having
the 19 dollar package was ODDs  if I am correct. I agree, SODs are negotiable.


dbvirago

« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2013, 13:19 »
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Yeah, no SOD for me for over a month, but an increase in ODDs, so maybe something changed? $90 was better than $2.85

Ron

« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2013, 13:25 »
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5 mini SODs this month. Lowest 0.80 cent, Highest was 4.75

« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2013, 14:18 »
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Only thing down for me this month are SODs. Had a decent amount last month. I think they dropped the Single part of it. I don't see it as an option anymore. The smallest package I see now is 2 images for $29. They used to have one for $19.

please tell us where you are seeing those packages, I can only see online subs, els and ods plans, nothing on sods, from a discussion the other day we got to the conclusion it is impossible to know if there is even a standard in terms of prices, just too many different amounts that contributors are having
the 19 dollar package was ODDs  if I am correct. I agree, SODs are negotiable.

No. If you sold one, it was recorded in the column marked Single & Other Downloads. "And" is a key part there. That column included the singles which were based on a fixed percentage of $19 according to your tier, and other images that were sold under various licenses that could range from a little bit to a lot. The "Other Downloads" is the part that varies.

They changed it this month to two images for $29, and I'm not sure it's a worldwide thing. They're probably testing it like they did Single license sales.

I find it by clicking on an image like I'm a buyer and those are the options it gives me. I'm sure it varies by country.
« Last Edit: June 26, 2013, 14:21 by robhainer »

« Reply #20 on: June 26, 2013, 14:23 »
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Only thing down for me this month are SODs. Had a decent amount last month. I think they dropped the Single part of it. I don't see it as an option anymore. The smallest package I see now is 2 images for $29. They used to have one for $19.

please tell us where you are seeing those packages, I can only see online subs, els and ods plans, nothing on sods, from a discussion the other day we got to the conclusion it is impossible to know if there is even a standard in terms of prices, just too many different amounts that contributors are having
the 19 dollar package was ODDs  if I am correct. I agree, SODs are negotiable.

No. If you sold one, it was recorded in the column marked Single & Other Downloads. "And" is a key part there. That column included the singles which were based on a fixed percentage of $19 according to your tier, and other images that were sold under various licenses that could range from a little bit to a lot. The "Other Downloads" is the part that varies.

They changed it this month to two images for $29, and I'm not sure it's a worldwide thing. They're probably testing it like they did Single license sales.

I find it by clicking on an image like I'm a buyer and those are the options it gives me. I'm sure it varies by country.

you can find the amount that the buyer paid (making some maths) but there isn't information before asking SS for that license, if so please show me a printscreen, I really cannot find it


« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2013, 14:28 »
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/48187619@N03/9146305208/#

Best, I could do, Luis. I haven't figured out how to embed a print screen on here.
« Last Edit: June 26, 2013, 14:30 by robhainer »

Ron

« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2013, 14:31 »
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Not sure what the deal is. Nothing changed for me in Europe. Cant see the US pricing.

Ron

« Reply #23 on: June 26, 2013, 14:34 »
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Rob, when you reply, you see +Attachments and other options under the reply box. Click on the + and then you can attach a screenshot.

Thanks for posting yours, thats different to what we see in Europe


« Reply #24 on: June 26, 2013, 14:37 »
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/48187619@N03/9146305208/#

Best, I could do, Luis. I haven't figured out how to embed a print screen on here.


I don't see anything on sods there Rob

« Reply #25 on: June 26, 2013, 14:42 »
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« Reply #26 on: June 26, 2013, 15:36 »
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/48187619@N03/9146305208/#

Best, I could do, Luis. I haven't figured out how to embed a print screen on here.


I don't see anything on sods there Rob


SOD's are negotiated between SS and the customer.  There is no set price.  That's why we see such a wide variation in royalties.


WarrenPrice

« Reply #27 on: June 26, 2013, 15:48 »
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OP must be getting all my ODD and SOD.  Nearly all my sales are 25/day.  Maybe that too is a part of the rotating priorities in search algorithm?
Also, my sales seem restricted to Asia and Europe.  USA sales are sad.   :(

« Reply #28 on: June 26, 2013, 15:50 »
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/48187619@N03/9146305208/#

Best, I could do, Luis. I haven't figured out how to embed a print screen on here.


I don't see anything on sods there Rob


SOD's are negotiated between SS and the customer.  There is no set price.  That's why we see such a wide variation in royalties.


exactly, said that before in this topic

Ron

« Reply #29 on: June 26, 2013, 15:52 »
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OP must be getting all my ODD and SOD.  Nearly all my sales are 25/day.  Maybe that too is a part of the rotating priorities in search algorithm?
Also, my sales seem restricted to Asia and Europe.  USA sales are sad.   :(
Aaah Warren, I dont think so. I dont get a lot of ODDs or SODs. I only had 5 mini SODs this month. And I have 1-4 ODDs per day, except weekends. My sales are all over the map. I have about 20-30 DLs per day on 850 images. And I only make 300 dollar per month, and that doesnt seem to move a lot. My BMEs are only by a few dollars. Its all very average.

« Reply #30 on: June 26, 2013, 16:03 »
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/48187619@N03/9146305208/#

Best, I could do, Luis. I haven't figured out how to embed a print screen on here.


I don't see anything on sods there Rob



SOD's are negotiated between SS and the customer.  There is no set price.  That's why we see such a wide variation in royalties.


exactly, said that before in this topic


That's wrong, at least partly wrong.

Where it says 2 images for $29 is where it used to say 1 image for $19, but not in every country. It was called "Single On Demand." Your earnings for that license did not get reported under "On Demand Downloads" but under "Single & Other downloads." Until they got rid of it this month, I got $5.70 (30 percent) for that license, being under the .38 cent tier.

Now, if your image gets downloaded under the "2 images for $29," the earnings will also not show up under the "On Demand" column. If it did, and you got paid the same as the 5 for $49 license (which is $2.85 for .38 tier), you'd be getting ripped off.

Instead, if you sell a image license under the 2 for $29, your earnings will appear under Single & Other Downloads column. If I get a sale under that license, I get $4.35, which is 30 percent of half of $29.

In addition to that, Shutterstock negotiates various different licenses that pay all over the place. That's the "Other Downloads" part of that column. I got one for $22.50 today.
« Last Edit: June 26, 2013, 16:09 by robhainer »

« Reply #31 on: June 26, 2013, 16:11 »
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I have the following different SODs this month, can you find an explanation to all of them? (on the last tier)

2.99$
4.35$
5.1$
9.9$
18$ (just got this one)
24$
28.5$ (today)
75$
« Last Edit: June 27, 2013, 08:42 by luissantos84 »

« Reply #32 on: June 26, 2013, 16:21 »
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The one for $4.35 is part of the new 2 for $29 package that anyone off the street (in the U.S) can buy. (29/2=14.50. 30 percent of 14.50 is $4.35.)

The rest are special licenses negotiated between Shutterstock and whomever bought them. Like a bulk corporate package or special use or something. You will never know. They are "Other Downloads."

It's confusing because all these different types of licenses are being reported together under one column. They should report those $4.35 ones under "On Demand." And they should bring back the 1 for $19 and report it under On Demand, too.

Look back previous months to see if you got several $5.70 ones, as long as you were at .38 cent then. Those were for the Single On Demand, 1 image for $19.
« Last Edit: June 26, 2013, 16:23 by robhainer »

« Reply #33 on: June 26, 2013, 16:26 »
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Also, "SOD" means "Single and Other Downloads", not "Single on Demand."

« Reply #34 on: June 26, 2013, 16:45 »
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Also, "SOD" means "Single and Other Downloads", not "Single on Demand."

yeah we know that but usually we kind of put them all together :P

« Reply #35 on: June 26, 2013, 17:30 »
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OP must be getting all my ODD and SOD.

Nearly all my sales are 25/day. Maybe that too is a part of the rotating priorities in search algorithm?

Also, my sales seem restricted to Asia and Europe.  USA sales are sad.   :(

I have been wondering this as well, I went two weeks without any OD sales and it seemed to coincide with my down weeks.  On the weeks I receive above average sales I have significantly more OD's over subs.

Quite a few people are reporting poor USA sales on SS.


 

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