Author Topic: Tired sell old photo. new photo dont sell since 6 month of upload (Read 7919 times)

LouisPhotos · « **on:** September 16, 2019, 14:23 »

I dont understand what happen here. Search result have change or Buyer is gone... I dont sell news photo since 6 month. rarely sell new photo. Pretty frustrated situation. I continue to make great money but that is pretty bad to see old photo sell and not new. I am the only on this situation ?

Brasilnut · « **Reply #1 on:** September 16, 2019, 14:26 »

link to your port, sir

LouisPhotos · « **Reply #2 on:** September 16, 2019, 14:28 »

This is not a portfolio problem. For sure. I sell 100 photos by day on shutterstock

mino216 · « **Reply #3 on:** September 16, 2019, 15:23 »

In my case, I usually sell new photos and not the old ones. Of course, there are some exceptions, but I am usually selling images from 2018 and 2019 (on SS since 2007)

derby · « **Reply #4 on:** September 16, 2019, 16:54 »

Quote from: LouisPhotos on September 16, 2019, 14:28

This is not a portfolio problem. For sure. I sell 100 photos by day on shutterstock

Are you sure? Maybe your new uploads are too similar to older ones, or they have same main subject, so in this case you have reached the best clients with older ones. Without seeing portfolio is impossible to say

BTW, I'selling (few) new ones, but they are normally far away of what is my main subject

Hundstage14 · « **Reply #5 on:** September 17, 2019, 03:55 »

Yeah, I 've had similar experiences: new one sell few, but one year in the stock it accelerated.

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #6 on:** September 17, 2019, 04:53 »

What percentage of the portfolio do you class as "old"? If 90% of it is old and new photos only account for 20% of sales, then new files would still be outselling old ones by 2:1 even though 80% of sales are of old stock.
This is a rather obvious factor that needs taking into account, but I can't recall seeing anybody mention it in the "only old files sell" threads (which, curiously, have been appearing for many, many years now ... I wonder if the new files that didn't sell five years ago have now become old files that do sell)

DavidK · « **Reply #7 on:** September 17, 2019, 05:47 »

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on September 17, 2019, 04:53

What percentage of the portfolio do you class as "old"? If 90% of it is old and new photos only account for 20% of sales, then new files would still be outselling old ones by 2:1 even though 80% of sales are of old stock.
This is a rather obvious factor that needs taking into account, but I can't recall seeing anybody mention it in the "only old files sell" threads (which, curiously, have been appearing for many, many years now ... I wonder if the new files that didn't sell five years ago have now become old files that do sell)

That is an excellent point. My experience with SS though seems to be similar to the OP's in that it does seem to take a lot longer for files to gain traction there compared to AS or IS. As for the rest it really is only old files that sell for me - meaning that they take even longer to rise through the ranks?

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #8 on:** September 17, 2019, 06:02 »

Quote from: DavidK on September 17, 2019, 05:47

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on September 17, 2019, 04:53
What percentage of the portfolio do you class as "old"? If 90% of it is old and new photos only account for 20% of sales, then new files would still be outselling old ones by 2:1 even though 80% of sales are of old stock.
This is a rather obvious factor that needs taking into account, but I can't recall seeing anybody mention it in the "only old files sell" threads (which, curiously, have been appearing for many, many years now ... I wonder if the new files that didn't sell five years ago have now become old files that do sell)

That is an excellent point. My experience with SS though seems to be similar to the OP's in that it does seem to take a lot longer for files to gain traction there compared to AS or IS. As for the rest it really is only old files that sell for me - meaning that they take even longer to rise through the ranks?

Of course, if you have loads of time to waste and want to be really accurate you could divide your images into six month upload blocks, see how many sales each of those blocks gets in a given period and create a chart of sales per image put online for each time period.

jonbull · « **Reply #9 on:** September 17, 2019, 06:35 »

i made category for year in catalog manager...2017 file have already earned more than 1,3 dollar in 2 years and half....2018 have earned less than 0,6 cent per file...2019 are earning this year less than 10 cent per file uploaded....ok 2017 files are older than 2018 2019, but i doubt 2019 in 2 and half year will earn 1,3 dollar per file.
it's not a casse that 2017 was the year they open the gate and let everything in.
new files sells very little, i probably sells more files old 2009 2010 this year than file s uploaded in 2019 and i'd say they are much much better.
the problems is thesis sites are totally biased toward popular old files...nobosy is searching through new files....makes some casual search and you will see what imp talking about. totally disaster, wrong keyword, files completely unrelated...me i am frustrated to collaborate with an agency with such low standards, imagine a customer!!...they go through popular r tab in any agency and just browse three four pages...that's why those with lot of popular images will earn more and those producing good new content not.
another key point of the fall of new files was when they canceled the third tabs. maybe they should mae some more tab, like in video. in istcok new files sells practically after a month, not ll but man. in ss probably less than 1% pf monthly sales are new files.

jonbull · « **Reply #10 on:** September 17, 2019, 06:36 »

Quote from: DavidK on September 17, 2019, 05:47

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on September 17, 2019, 04:53
What percentage of the portfolio do you class as "old"? If 90% of it is old and new photos only account for 20% of sales, then new files would still be outselling old ones by 2:1 even though 80% of sales are of old stock.
This is a rather obvious factor that needs taking into account, but I can't recall seeing anybody mention it in the "only old files sell" threads (which, curiously, have been appearing for many, many years now ... I wonder if the new files that didn't sell five years ago have now become old files that do sell)

That is an excellent point. My experience with SS though seems to be similar to the OP's in that it does seem to take a lot longer for files to gain traction there compared to AS or IS. As for the rest it really is only old files that sell for me - meaning that they take even longer to rise through the ranks?

but very longer i'd say.

Hundstage14 · « **Reply #11 on:** September 17, 2019, 07:15 »

To be more specific, the striking thing is that images that have been in portfolio for a year now sell much more frequently for the first time than images that are not in the portfolio for so long. And since the novelty is a clear bonus in the Shutterstock search, that's surprising.

mindstorm · « **Reply #12 on:** September 17, 2019, 11:51 »

Quote from: LouisPhotos on September 16, 2019, 14:23

I dont understand what happen here. Search result have change or Buyer is gone... I dont sell news photo since 6 month. rarely sell new photo. Pretty frustrated situation. I continue to make great money but that is pretty bad to see old photo sell and not new. I am the only on this situation ?

A quick glance at my sales for the last couple days shows me that roughly:

50% are a year or more old
25% are between 7 months and a year (that is, uploaded in late 2018)
25% were uploaded in 2019, and are thus "new" by my definition.
1 of the images sold is 7 years old

pancaketom · « **Reply #13 on:** September 17, 2019, 16:02 »

SS used to tell us how much we made from content that was of various ages. I tracked it for a while. It was very clear that recent content sales were dropping. Now some of that was due to the percentage of my recent images compared to the whole collection, but it used to be SS was the place where I often got sales soon after an image was accepted or at least within a few days. That almost never happens now. I'd say Adobe has more sales of images uploaded this year compared to any other site.

When SS switched their user page they got rid of ways to tell how crappy they were becoming and instead put lifetime earnings in a massive font.

LouisPhotos · « **Reply #14 on:** September 18, 2019, 06:27 »

I check that and my keyword are not is good order. Do you think this will change something ? order is important ?

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #15 on:** September 18, 2019, 16:28 »

Quote from: LouisPhotos on September 18, 2019, 06:27

I check that and my keyword are not is good order. Do you think this will change something ? order is important ?

Not on SS.

I suggest you do something like jonbull, make your oldest files into a set in catalog manager, then find the next years, make a set, and the next. Up to 2019 and add all from 2019 until you start adding 2020 to a new one. You'll see if it's really old photos or just that it seems that way, because older images, gain money and show up higher. And of course, maybe they do gain traction eventually and get better sales.

Seems odd, as climbing up is harder now than before and every year past that has been the case. It would seem that new files would neer, ever, make it. And considering competition, even less likely. But they do sometimes?

I tracked my oldest 100 vs my newest 100, not a real good test I admit. Now if I add this years newest 100, that should be interesting. Thanks for the idea to see how each year does.

And of course I uploaded different content and images, every year, new ideas, different concepts, so my answer would be, it's the images that matter, not the age. Older image just have been around longer, so they look better, as they have more sales.

Lola Ginabrigeta · « **Reply #16 on:** September 27, 2019, 06:57 »

Quote from: LouisPhotos on September 16, 2019, 14:23

I dont understand what happen here. Search result have change or Buyer is gone... I dont sell news photo since 6 month. rarely sell new photo. Pretty frustrated situation. I continue to make great money but that is pretty bad to see old photo sell and not new. I am the only on this situation ?

I sell same old or new but I'm only doing this for 5 years.

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