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Title: To Shutterstock: Individual opt out for SOD
Post by: Ron on March 20, 2014, 02:54
Following up on this comment

As I understand it, the "sensitive use" is more than just sensitive use, but is mainly the large $ SOD sales. I am opted out because of a few kid and other people pics (Why SS doesn't allow opt out on a model or even per image basis is beyond me). They have requested I allow it for a few images (turn on for the whole port 'til it is dled). which I have done I think 3 times. One resulted in a big sale. All were for images that had nothing to do with sensitive uses. I still get SOD sales w/o opting in, but they tend to be single digit or low double digit sales.

I probably should just deactivate those images that I don't agree to "sensitive" use for and then turn on my port.

SS if you are reading, allow sensitive use opt-out based on model releases or per image or something similar.


http://www.microstockgroup.com/shutterstock-com/a-single-$82-92-sale-on-ss-is-it-a-mistake/msg371287/#msg371287 (http://www.microstockgroup.com/shutterstock-com/a-single-$82-92-sale-on-ss-is-it-a-mistake/msg371287/#msg371287)

Shutterstock, could you please consider an individual opt out per model release or per individual image?

I also have images I would like to opt out, of my nephews for example. I dont care what happens to my self portraits, but some things I would like to protect from sensitive use. But I also would like to get the occasional big sale.

An individual opt out per model release or per individual image would solve this issue. Many contributors would appreciate such a move and it would provide some peace of mind.

Could you please consider this, or maybe comment on the request what your thoughts are on this matter?


Thanks

Title: Re: To Shutterstock: Individual opt out for SOD
Post by: Ron on March 20, 2014, 02:59
It could be an idea for people to vote my comment up to show the demand for such an opt out. It might help showing the importance of that opt out.
Title: Re: To Shutterstock: Individual opt out for SOD
Post by: robhainer on March 21, 2014, 07:15
All of my images are opted in. It doesn't matter. Buyers are going to use your photos in ways you don't like no matter what you do.
Title: Re: To Shutterstock: Individual opt out for SOD
Post by: Mantis on March 21, 2014, 07:47
All of my images are opted in. It doesn't matter. Buyers are going to use your photos in ways you don't like no matter what you do.

I often shrug my shoulders for things I cannot control, too, like the Google deal.  But If I have any iota of control over my images, perceived or real, I take control. Examples? Opting out of DP PP.  While they will probably continue to cheat us, I don't just shrug it off because they will do it anyway.  I take control in as much as possible given the crummy deal micro stock is overall. I've filed DMCA's, I in face just contacted a dive magazine who had a two page spread of one of my images with no credits, as if the author of that piece is taking credit for my work. I'm not just going to let it go, if that means anything. Other mileage may vary but that's my position.
Title: Re: To Shutterstock: Individual opt out for SOD
Post by: jsfoto on March 21, 2014, 18:08


Shutterstock, could you please consider an individual opt out per model release or per individual image?

I also have images I would like to opt out, of my nephews for example. I dont care what happens to my self portraits, but some things I would like to protect from sensitive use. But I also would like to get the occasional big sale.

An individual opt out per model release or per individual image would solve this issue. Many contributors would appreciate such a move and it would provide some peace of mind.

Could you please consider this, or maybe comment on the request what your thoughts are on this matter?


Thanks

I'm absolutely with you, Ron. As I sad in the other thread:

"I really would like to allow sensitive use for my images without models ... and those with models but without visible face."
Title: Re: To Shutterstock: Individual opt out for SOD
Post by: Ron on March 24, 2014, 03:56
Hi Scott, could you share your thoughts with us on this suggestion? Thank you.
Title: Re: To Shutterstock: Individual opt out for SOD
Post by: Ron on March 25, 2014, 02:28
Bump
Title: Re: To Shutterstock: Individual opt out for SOD
Post by: Beppe Grillo on March 25, 2014, 03:26
Bump
Did you try the feedback tag on the SS homepage?
Or ask Scott to come here sending him a email?
Title: Re: To Shutterstock: Individual opt out for SOD
Post by: leaf on March 25, 2014, 04:22
You would think they would gain a lot more images than they would loose if they offered this.  Some people who are opted in for everything now would remove a few images, but those who are opted out for everything would certianly opt in for a lot of their images.
Title: Re: To Shutterstock: Individual opt out for SOD
Post by: Ron on March 25, 2014, 06:51
Bump
Did you try the feedback tag on the SS homepage?
Or ask Scott to come here sending him a email?

Scott reads these forums, I am sure. But I can send him an email and ask if he can say something. even if its, sorry guys, its not planned for change.
Title: Re: To Shutterstock: Individual opt out for SOD
Post by: Ron on March 25, 2014, 06:52
You would think they would gain a lot more images than they would loose if they offered this.  Some people who are opted in for everything now would remove a few images, but those who are opted out for everything would certianly opt in for a lot of their images.
Good call !!
Title: Re: To Shutterstock: Individual opt out for SOD
Post by: Batman on March 26, 2014, 08:32
Bump

Anoter thread where half the posts are from you to yourself. You want to tell SS how to run their business with posts on a forum that they might not read? Write them direct everybody.

Quote from: Ron
My god, what a bunch of sorry ass twats on this forum.

We are? Why do you keep coming back.

Quote from: Semmick
I am staying away from the forum here, and on MSG, otherwise I would have posted something there. Just know, I am one of the lurkers now, PMing nice people when I have something to share. I am also talking to peeps on Facebook ;-)

Couldn't you keep the promises?
Title: Re: To Shutterstock: Individual opt out for SOD
Post by: Beppe Grillo on March 26, 2014, 11:37
Bump

Anoter thread where half the posts are from you to yourself. You want to tell SS how to run their business with posts on a forum that they might not read? Write them direct everybody.

Quote from: Ron
My god, what a bunch of sorry ass twats on this forum.

We are? Why do you keep coming back.

Quote from: Semmick
I am staying away from the forum here, and on MSG, otherwise I would have posted something there. Just know, I am one of the lurkers now, PMing nice people when I have something to share. I am also talking to peeps on Facebook ;-)

Couldn't you keep the promises?

I don't understand the utility of your post related to the OP.
If you have personal problems with Ron use PM please.
Title: Re: To Shutterstock: Individual opt out for SOD
Post by: Ron on March 26, 2014, 13:35
Bump
Title: Re: To Shutterstock: Individual opt out for SOD
Post by: Ron on April 14, 2014, 12:23
SCott, if you are still around?
Title: Re: To Shutterstock: Individual opt out for SOD
Post by: Ron on April 14, 2014, 16:46
Whats up with the down votes, I am trying to get an answer for all of us who want to know about this?
Title: Re: To Shutterstock: Individual opt out for SOD
Post by: scottbraut on April 14, 2014, 22:27
Hi Ron,

I just want to acknowledge the request for this.  Typically, there are a wide set of considerations for whether we would support a feature.  For example, policy decisions; the technical cost or impact; prioritization relative to other features or bug fixes that deliver measurable value back to customers or contributors; the anticipated net effect on opt-in rates, etc.   The best thing I can say is that the sum of all of those considerations and more, there aren't immediate plans to change the current functionality.

In general, we're constantly trying to improve the contributor site and experience and this type of request stays in our discussions. We'll certainly keep everyone updated if things change.

Best,

Scott
Title: Re: To Shutterstock: Individual opt out for SOD
Post by: Ron on April 15, 2014, 02:48
Thanks for replying Scott, much appreciated.