Author Topic: Very Low sales in 2016? (Read 41939 times)

Zero Talent · « **Reply #100 on:** January 18, 2016, 14:29 »

Quote from: Micro4 on January 18, 2016, 14:17

Quote from: Zero Talent on January 18, 2016, 13:16

Self interest (which include the interests of your family and your community) is embedded in human nature and beyond, even if you don't like to admit it. Without it, mankind would have been stuck in stone age, or worse.

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. . . . even more crap.

Please stop preaching your simplistic, two cent philosophy.

You probably prefer only to listen to what is your warm and convenient "truth".

Just remember that "even Mother Teresa, for example, when she used her Nobel Prize award to build a leprosarium, she was acting in a self-interested manner, because those resources were used to advance something she cared about".

This is because "our self-interest includes the development of our benevolent nature"
Maybe now things are not as simplistic as you hastily characterized them.

Rinderart · « **Reply #101 on:** January 18, 2016, 14:40 »

I don't specifically see that Photographers are better than 10 years ago. I see more of them. to Bad some folks here weren't around before Microstock..Doing Pro Stock Photography. Microstock Killed that Industry where we could make a living doing good work. Before a million Tomatoes,Meercats,Kiwi, etc,etc,etc,etc,etc you name it. It's here by the millions. Is it better than 10 years ago?...Sorry...NOPE!! And Just remember as a general rule of being creative whats Hot today, Doesn't stay hot for Long.

gcrook · « **Reply #102 on:** January 18, 2016, 15:42 »

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One more thing: there is no such thing as greed. There is self interrest, we all defend it, and that's the fundamental energy which generates progress.

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What a load of crap.
I'm sure you are not greedy, because, obviously, only others are.

Sorry I woke you up! Keep dreaming

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Greed is wanting more than you need and yes there is such a thing as greed, look at Donald Trump. But not everyone is greedy. I live a modest life and walked away from that race for more 15 years ago. I have what I need and I want nothing more. I do stock as retirement income (not retired yet but must think of the future) and because it's the only avenue that allows me to create whatever image I want without having to follow a client's directions. Greed is a sickness and one in which the infected don't know there's anything wrong with them. Tragic really.
What you "need" is so relative! This is why your definition is flawed.

Are your needs the same as some poor African farmer needs? To him, you are greedy, because you have much more than he needs. Similarly, corporations appear greedy to you.

Is your household making more than $9,733/year? If yes, then you are greedy because you make more than half of the world population. You can flaunt your modest life only after you donate to charity everything in excess of $9,733/year.
You don't need much to be happy: food, shelter and love. Do you have more than this? Do you have a cell phone, a car, a TV, a computer? Then you have more than you need. Always think at the poor African farmer before you tap yourself on the shoulder with satisfaction. Otherwise, it is only hypocrisy.
Self interest (which include the interests of your family and your community) is embedded in human nature and beyond, even if you don't like to admit it. Without it, mankind would have been stuck in stone age, or worse.

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LOL,Oh boy,i was wondering why someone didnt mention the "human nature" argument sooner.The mega argument of every illiterate libertarian.

Zero Talent · « **Reply #103 on:** January 18, 2016, 15:44 »

Quote from: gcrook on January 18, 2016, 15:42

The mega argument of every illiterate libertarian.

Lol

especially those winning awards in economics. A bunch of illiterates, indeed

gcrook · « **Reply #104 on:** January 18, 2016, 15:47 »

Quote from: Zero Talent on January 18, 2016, 15:44

Quote from: gcrook on January 18, 2016, 15:42
The mega argument of every illiterate libertarian.

Lol especially those winning awards in economics. A bunch of illiterates, indeeds

Thank God human nature created the awards.

Zero Talent · « **Reply #105 on:** January 18, 2016, 15:50 »

Quote from: gcrook on January 18, 2016, 15:47

Quote from: Zero Talent on January 18, 2016, 15:44
Quote from: gcrook on January 18, 2016, 15:42
The mega argument of every illiterate libertarian.

Lol especially those winning awards in economics. A bunch of illiterates, indeed

Thank God human nature created the awards.

Indeed. Among others, Alfred Nobel created some of them

And some went to F.A. Hayek, Milton Friedman, and James M. Buchanan

gcrook · « **Reply #106 on:** January 18, 2016, 16:01 »

Quote from: Zero Talent on January 18, 2016, 15:50

Quote from: gcrook on January 18, 2016, 15:47
Quote from: Zero Talent on January 18, 2016, 15:44
Quote from: gcrook on January 18, 2016, 15:42
The mega argument of every illiterate libertarian.

Lol especially those winning awards in economics. A bunch of illiterates, indeeds

Thank God human nature created the awards.

Indeed. Among others, Alfred Nobel created some of them.

Truly a remarkable troll that man was.His awards usually end up being shared by scientists with totally contradicting theories.Especially in physics and economics (efficient market hypothesis shared award was the motherload of surrealism a couple of years back).
Other awards ,such as the nobel peace prize, is sometimes being awarded to people who hold the record for most failed states under one's precidency.

In other news sales are picking up for all because it happened to me and i said so.If i were a public figure i would have been awarded a nobel prize.

gcrook · « **Reply #107 on:** January 18, 2016, 16:02 »

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F.A. Hayek, Milton Friedman

Please say no more.I got it.Really.

Zero Talent · « **Reply #108 on:** January 18, 2016, 16:18 »

Quote from: gcrook on January 18, 2016, 16:02

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F.A. Hayek, Milton Friedman

Please say no more.I got it.Really.

I'm happy you got it.

Do you prefer JM Keynes financial perpetuum mobile or K.Marx wonderland?

Anyway all these people with contradicting theories:

Quote from: gcrook on January 18, 2016, 16:01

Truly a remarkable troll that man was.His awards usually end up being shared by scientists with totally contradicting theories.Especially in physics and economics (efficient market hypothesis shared award was the motherload of surrealism a couple of years back).
Other awards ,such as the nobel peace prize, is sometimes being awarded to people who hold the record for most failed states under one's precidency.

In other news sales are picking up for all because it happened to me and i said so.If i were a public figure i would have been awarded a nobel prize.

...are a bunch of illiterates, indeed!

Say no more!

marthamarks · « **Reply #109 on:** January 18, 2016, 16:33 »

Hijacked thread alert!!!!!

gcrook · « **Reply #110 on:** January 18, 2016, 16:33 »

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I'm happy you got it.
Do you prefer JM Keynes financial perpetuum mobile or K.Marx wonderland?

See here's the thing.I prefer neither.You apparently prefer Mises and Friedman which would make more sense if you were Paris Hilton (money-wise) .
But you are not.At least one can dream of becoming an elite and that's something im not against to be honest.
Sadly for every Bill Gates there are 1000 Paris Hiltons and 1.000.000 suckers.
Like you.
Or me for that matter.

Zero Talent · « **Reply #111 on:** January 18, 2016, 16:41 »

Quote from: gcrook on January 18, 2016, 16:33

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I'm happy you got it.
Do you prefer JM Keynes financial perpetuum mobile or K.Marx wonderland?

See here's the thing.I prefer neither.You apparently prefer Mises and Friedman which would make more sense if you were Paris Hilton (money-wise) .
But you are not.At least one can dream of becoming an elite and that's something im not against to be honest.
Sadly for every Bill Gates there are 1000 Paris Hiltons and 1.000.000 suckers.
Like you.
Or me for that matter.

I don't "prefer". I study and make sense of what I read. If a theory makes sense, it doesn't matter who you are and how much money you make, as long as it answers your questions.
Understanding these basic principles would definitely help you more in finding your way, than the constant BMW about "greed", "evil corporations", "poor me is not my fault" or "who moved my cheese?" and low sales complaints.

Quote from: marthamarks on January 18, 2016, 16:33

Hijacked thread alert!!!!!

False alarm!

gcrook · « **Reply #112 on:** January 18, 2016, 16:55 »

Quote from: Zero Talent on January 18, 2016, 16:41

Quote from: gcrook on January 18, 2016, 16:33
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I'm happy you got it.
Do you prefer JM Keynes financial perpetuum mobile or K.Marx wonderland?

See here's the thing.I prefer neither.You apparently prefer Mises and Friedman which would make more sense if you were Paris Hilton (money-wise) .
But you are not.At least one can dream of becoming an elite and that's something im not against to be honest.
Sadly for every Bill Gates there are 1000 Paris Hiltons and 1.000.000 suckers.
Like you.
Or me for that matter.

I don't "prefer". I study and make sense of what I read. If a theory makes sense, it doesn't matter who you are and how much money you make, as long as it answers your questions.
Understanding these basic principles would definitely help you more in finding your way, than these constant BMW about "greed", "evil corporations", "poor me is not my fault" or "who moved my cheese?" complaints.

Quote from: marthamarks on January 18, 2016, 16:33
Hijacked thread alert!!!!!

False alarm!

Thank you for you deeply inspiring words, i will definitely educate myself further just like you did,allowing you to expand your mind and create opportyunities where there weren't any.
Although im afraid that if i do i will start blaming myself for being poor because ultimately it's the poor people's fault for being poor and frankly i kind of like to whine about my poverty.
Did i also mention that im lazy?yes,im afraid these two go hand in hand because nature says so.
Looks like no libertarianism for me chaps.I can't handle the burden of enlightenment.

Zero Talent · « **Reply #113 on:** January 18, 2016, 16:59 »

Quote from: gcrook on January 18, 2016, 16:55

Although im afraid that if i do i will start blaming myself for being poor

Remember the African farmer! He is poor, not you! And he is definitely not lazy. Your sarcasm doesn't make you right.

gcrook · « **Reply #114 on:** January 18, 2016, 17:05 »

Quote from: Zero Talent on January 18, 2016, 16:59

Quote from: gcrook on January 18, 2016, 16:55
Although im afraid that if i do i will start blaming myself for being poor

Remember the African farmer! He is poor, not you!

Everything is relative.He might be poor next to me but he sure is way richer than an Afghan refugee.
Didn't your idols teach you that relativity (or lesser evil) is the cornerstone of western society since at least two centuries ago?

Zero Talent · « **Reply #115 on:** January 18, 2016, 17:35 »

Quote from: gcrook on January 18, 2016, 17:05

Quote from: Zero Talent on January 18, 2016, 16:59
Quote from: gcrook on January 18, 2016, 16:55
Although im afraid that if i do i will start blaming myself for being poor

Remember the African farmer! He is poor, not you!

Everything is relative.He might be poor next to me but he sure is way richer than an Afghan refugee.
Didn't your idols teach you that relativity (or lesser evil) is the cornerstone of western society since at least two centuries ago?

Actually no.
They advocate a free market through mutually agreed transactions, free of coercion from any participant or 3rd parties.
They advocate win-win, not "lesser evil" (lose-lose). They prove that the zero-sum theory (no net win), so dear to some socialists, is a fallacy.

On the other hand, it is important if you realized that you are not poor, by most of mankind standards, and your life might even be better than a king's life from only a few centuries ago.

gcrook · « **Reply #116 on:** January 18, 2016, 17:48 »

Say no more.
Where do i sign?

Zero Talent · « **Reply #117 on:** January 18, 2016, 19:12 »

Quote from: gcrook on January 18, 2016, 17:48

Say no more.
Where do i sign?

Sure, no problem: you can start your enlightenment journey, by signing up here: https://mises.org/

Micro4 · « **Reply #118 on:** January 18, 2016, 20:27 »

Quote from: Zero Talent on January 18, 2016, 17:35

They advocate a free market through mutually agreed transactions, free of coercion from any participant or 3rd parties.
They advocate win-win, not "lesser evil" (lose-lose). They prove that the zero-sum theory (no net win), so dear to some socialists, is a fallacy.

. . . and therein lies the problem with your simplistic economic philosophy.

"free of coercion from any participant or 3rd parties" is impossible in today's modern world.

Zero Talent · « **Reply #119 on:** January 18, 2016, 22:13 »

Quote from: Micro4 on January 18, 2016, 20:27

Quote from: Zero Talent on January 18, 2016, 17:35

They advocate a free market through mutually agreed transactions, free of coercion from any participant or 3rd parties.
They advocate win-win, not "lesser evil" (lose-lose). They prove that the zero-sum theory (no net win), so dear to some socialists, is a fallacy.

. . . and therein lies the problem with your simplistic economic philosophy.

"free of coercion from any participant or 3rd parties" is impossible in today's modern world.

We are making progress! This is a much more "intelligent" reply than that repetitive "load of crap" you used me with.

Please don't mix up principles with daily imperfections.

Here is a simple example at hand:
The "modern world" of microstock adheres, to a large extent, to these principles. There is no government intervention (3rd party), no licensing required, and you are free to enter in a transaction or end it at will (while respecting those willingly agreed terms) with most agencies.
So, you actually take part in this "simplistic", "impossible", free world of microstock.

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Micro4 · « **Reply #120 on:** January 18, 2016, 22:32 »

Quote from: Zero Talent on January 18, 2016, 22:13

Quote from: Micro4 on January 18, 2016, 20:27
Quote from: Zero Talent on January 18, 2016, 17:35

They advocate a free market through mutually agreed transactions, free of coercion from any participant or 3rd parties.
They advocate win-win, not "lesser evil" (lose-lose). They prove that the zero-sum theory (no net win), so dear to some socialists, is a fallacy.

. . . and therein lies the problem with your simplistic economic philosophy.

"free of coercion from any participant or 3rd parties" is impossible in today's modern world.

We are making progress! This is a much more "intelligent" reply than that repetitive "load of crap" you used me with.

Please don't mix up principles with daily imperfections.
The "modern world" of microstock adheres, to large extent, to these principles. There is no government intervention (3rd party), no licensing required, and you are free to enter in a transaction or end it at will (while respecting those willingly agreed terms) with most agencies.
So change it is not as impossible as you think.

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I still think what you're preaching is a load of rubbish.
(and that's my simplistic answer)

Zero Talent · « **Reply #121 on:** January 18, 2016, 22:38 »

Quote from: Micro4 on January 18, 2016, 22:32

Quote from: Zero Talent on January 18, 2016, 22:13
Quote from: Micro4 on January 18, 2016, 20:27
Quote from: Zero Talent on January 18, 2016, 17:35

They advocate a free market through mutually agreed transactions, free of coercion from any participant or 3rd parties.
They advocate win-win, not "lesser evil" (lose-lose). They prove that the zero-sum theory (no net win), so dear to some socialists, is a fallacy.

. . . and therein lies the problem with your simplistic economic philosophy.

"free of coercion from any participant or 3rd parties" is impossible in today's modern world.

We are making progress! This is a much more "intelligent" reply than that repetitive "load of crap" you used me with.

Please don't mix up principles with daily imperfections.
The "modern world" of microstock adheres, to large extent, to these principles. There is no government intervention (3rd party), no licensing required, and you are free to enter in a transaction or end it at will (while respecting those willingly agreed terms) with most agencies.
So change it is not as impossible as you think.

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I still think what you're preaching is a load of rubbish.
(and that's my simplistic answer)

It appears that giving simplistic answers, such as those involving "crap" and "rubbish", is the best you can do. Somehow, I thought I could ask for more.
My bad!

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Pauws99 · « **Reply #122 on:** January 19, 2016, 02:15 »

This is a MICROSTOCK discussion board not a PHILOSOPHY discussion board

Justanotherphotographer · « **Reply #123 on:** January 19, 2016, 05:02 »

Sadly there are fanatics on every Internet forum that have to try and steer every thread to their own philosophical pet opinion. Like all fanatics they see everything filtered through the lens of their cause. So as far as they can see their pet theory is the most relevant thing in every discussion. It's tedious to say the least.

sharpshot · « **Reply #124 on:** January 19, 2016, 05:32 »

This thread needs sorting out. The original subject wasn't great but much more interesting to microstockers than the hijacked subject. I suggest anyone more interested in politics and philosophy should use more relevant forums.

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