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« on: February 04, 2021, 13:41 »
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Hi Guys,

Since January, I keep getting very, very low comissions video sales (less than 1$) on SS. Last year it was normal, with 10$+ for the video. Is there any explenation for that? I know I am reduced to Level 1, but still, less than 1$ for a footage is not what I was used to previous years. Something has changes, did I miss something?

Thanks
Cleop6atra


« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2021, 14:51 »
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Hi Guys,

Since January, I keep getting very, very low comissions video sales (less than 1$) on SS. Last year it was normal, with 10$+ for the video. Is there any explenation for that? I know I am reduced to Level 1, but still, less than 1$ for a footage is not what I was used to previous years. Something has changes, did I miss something?

Thanks
Cleop6atra
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« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2021, 15:16 »
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IT seems they've started moving more and more onto much cheaper subscription and streaming sales.

Ive gone from a lifetime average RPD of $21 a video to $5.30 in January.  A 75% decrease.  The drop from level 3 to level 1 alone doesn't come close to explaining that.

February is even worse where im getting plenty of sales for under $1 and my BEST is $2.67

The problem isnt the level cut - its buyers are now paying a lot less for the product in the first place.

« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2021, 15:50 »
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, did I miss something?
Yes, opt-out button.

Horizon

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« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2021, 15:58 »
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Opt-out!  I did and even removed thousands of clips! SS and video is a totally pointless excercise!

« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2021, 16:32 »
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Opt out. Don't damage your much higher sales agencies if you are on those. Staying at Shutterstock will only encourage those to follow the same track. A few dollars made at Shitterstock are not worth it.

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2021, 11:28 »
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, did I miss something?
Yes, opt-out button.

Opt-out!  I did and even removed thousands of clips! SS and video is a totally pointless excercise!

Opt out. Don't damage your much higher sales agencies if you are on those. Staying at Shutterstock will only encourage those to follow the same track. A few dollars made at Shitterstock are not worth it.

I think there's an obvious consensus of what to do about low return for video work submitted to Shutterstock.



These experienced people are trying to help you.

« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2021, 15:23 »
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Strange, some people still resist to see what's going on. I sell video on P5 on average 35$.

« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2021, 06:58 »
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Strange, some people still resist to see what's going on. I sell video on P5 on average 35$.

So do a lot of us but that doesn't affect the basic fact that many people got a LOT more sales on SS (and elsewhere) than P5 which brought in substantially more money.

My average monthly income from SS video last year (and previous years) is 5x what P5 brought in the same month with same videos.  AS roughly 3x P5.

Doesn't matter if you get paid higher per download if the number of downloads is drastically lower.

« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2021, 07:52 »
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There always a problem of low sales in the beginning of the year. Wait 1 or 2 months, if your situation doesn't improve stop working with them.

« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2021, 10:34 »
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Pond 5 sells a little, because with your help SS sells for nothing. Think long term. SS crashes prices.

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2021, 10:35 »
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Strange, some people still resist to see what's going on. I sell video on P5 on average 35$.

So do a lot of us but that doesn't affect the basic fact that many people got a LOT more sales on SS (and elsewhere) than P5 which brought in substantially more money.

My average monthly income from SS video last year (and previous years) is 5x what P5 brought in the same month with same videos.  AS roughly 3x P5.

Doesn't matter if you get paid higher per download if the number of downloads is drastically lower.

Everyone make a note, Richard is defending SS!  ;D

This isn't April fools day or some joke? No for it's real.

« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2021, 13:58 »
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Numbers are numbers.

For myself and others, until last month SS simply sold more video than elsewhere.  It paid less but sold a lot more.
Last month for the first time in 11-12 years that stopped and the reduction was instant, massive and it shot down the league table.


« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2021, 04:12 »
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Same thing for me gnirtS

I wish I could quit Shutterstock, but looking at my numbers at Pond5 and AdobeS, that would be the end of me in this business.
January with only 15% comission SS made me 3x what P5 did. Normally its 5x(+).

I did quit Istock and Storyblocks at the time, for the same reasons, but unfortunately I cant afford to do the same with Shutterstock.

« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2021, 08:32 »
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We'll see many contributors disabling video portfolio at Shutterstock this year.  That'll hopefully cause big video buyers to stop buying from Shutterstock and use Adobe Stock and Pond5 instead.

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2021, 13:31 »
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We'll see many contributors disabling video portfolio at Shutterstock this year.  That'll hopefully cause big video buyers to stop buying from Shutterstock and use Adobe Stock and Pond5 instead.

Which unfortunately will change nothing as long as the buyers can find what they need on SS. I don't contribute video to SS, I stopped when the $1.29 sales started coming in.

Anyone who's still making money, see above, isn't going to delete their video, are they? I mean do you actually believe think the contributors can force the customers to another agency? Or that anything will change?



« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2021, 15:52 »
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If Shutterstock ends up having 1/2 video contributors as P5 or AdobeStock, it'll be very bad for Shutterstock.  Buyers will leave Shutterstock too.


« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2021, 17:51 »
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This might go some way to explaining videos.  SS are really really trying to force people onto subscriptions.
You add a clip to a basket, it pops up a box saying "Why not subscribe" with the link to refuse in tiny writing below.
Clicking that you get another huge screen advertising subscriptions or below that packs.  The link to just buy an image isnt a link at all - you can only do that by clicking on checkout.

They really do seem to want to get everyone possible onto subscriptions.  And on those, the most we can expect to get for a clip is $10 on the most expensive package.  The others will be below that.

The way the pricing is, its better for a person to get a one off monthly subscription then cancel than to buy a clip pack or single image.

« Last Edit: February 09, 2021, 17:54 by gnirtS »

« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2021, 05:16 »
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I've stopped uploading new fresh footage to SS, and I upload only on Pond5 Exclusive, so last three months Pond5 is my TOP earner, 2-3 times more than SS. Colleagues, think who you feed, look in long time perspective, what is the future... Don't feed the monster. Have business only with companies, who treat you fair and be happy :)

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2021, 10:59 »
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I've stopped uploading new fresh footage to SS, and I upload only on Pond5 Exclusive, so last three months Pond5 is my TOP earner, 2-3 times more than SS. Colleagues, think who you feed, look in long time perspective, what is the future... Don't feed the monster. Have business only with companies, who treat you fair and be happy :)

Good fair game plan, or business plan. Only work where you are happy with the results or treatment.

Everyone should be free to make their own choices, without badgering or group pressure.

« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2021, 18:11 »
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I've stopped uploading new fresh footage to SS, and I upload only on Pond5 Exclusive, so last three months Pond5 is my TOP earner, 2-3 times more than SS. Colleagues, think who you feed, look in long time perspective, what is the future... Don't feed the monster. Have business only with companies, who treat you fair and be happy :)

I can't stop uploading to SS but I upload to AS first then wait for a month before uploading that content to SS and iS.

Horizon

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« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2021, 04:13 »
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flywing!!  its because of that and thousands of noobs and star-strucks joining every week that SS feel they can afford to treat existing members like crap!..they know they can replace a member in seconds never mind the quality of images!

« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2021, 08:01 »
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I've stopped uploading new fresh footage to SS, and I upload only on Pond5 Exclusive, so last three months Pond5 is my TOP earner, 2-3 times more than SS. Colleagues, think who you feed, look in long time perspective, what is the future... Don't feed the monster. Have business only with companies, who treat you fair and be happy :)

I can't stop uploading to SS but I upload to AS first then wait for a month before uploading that content to SS and iS.

I generally give AS/Alamy/P5 my stuff first and if nothing much happens on those i'll upload to SS a few months later.

What i am looking carefully at on SS is if my top selling clips start selling for a few dollars or cents as opposed to full price consistently then im deleting them as (i) they're worth more than that and (ii) i dont want it cannibalising from elsewhere.

Ive had a few clips that have made a few thousand dollars each that started selling endlessly for $<5 instead of the usual amounts.  Ive deleted those off SS.  Its small numbers *so far* but i'm not against pulling the entire port if/when that happens to more of them.  Ultimately the policy is forcing me to be selective - SS is getting the rejects from elsewhere and high performing clips get pulled.



« Reply #23 on: February 12, 2021, 09:34 »
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My P5 statistics is getting better and better. My portfolio contains 95% of clips and average sales of last 5 clips is 48$. It can't get any better. Oh, those who can't stop uploading to SS, what is your average?

« Reply #24 on: February 12, 2021, 09:53 »
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Meanwhile for many of us, P5 although it pays a lot more sells far fewer videos than AS or SS.

Looking at last year, SS video made me roughly 5x what P5 did for the same video clips.
Every single month P5 yields many hundreds of dollars less income than the same content did on SS due to the bigger volume.

This year so far SS is a little below P5 but AS is 3x  that.

Im not going to stop uploading to SS and lost potentially 5x the money that P5 brings in for the same thing.

If that equation changes (and last month hinted it might) then i'll reconsider but it seems somewhat stupid to give up a large chunk of income, based entirely on principle with no means of recouping it elsewhere.


 

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