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« Reply #50 on: November 22, 2014, 05:07 »
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Maybe it's just My turn to be up? Who knows or is it Just saying "This ain't gonna happen." Doom and Gloom Be Damned"

You have some great images - I think that helps an awful lot.


« Reply #51 on: November 22, 2014, 08:05 »
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Laurin is right. If you treat it like a normal job, follow trends and upload new content every day, you will see sales growth. If you try to coast by on old best sellers, you will be disappointed. It's been like that for a couple of years now.

Rinderart

« Reply #52 on: November 22, 2014, 13:04 »
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Laurin is right. If you treat it like a normal job, follow trends and upload new content every day, you will see sales growth. If you try to coast by on old best sellers, you will be disappointed. It's been like that for a couple of years now.

I simply got Lazy Rob, Then the fall Came and Of course Blamed everyone but me. On track Now.

Rinderart

« Reply #53 on: November 22, 2014, 13:47 »
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It's not about how much you upload anymore, it's about being better than the top images. If you can't beat them, chances are they'll be buried instantly. I used to get frustrated uploading large batches and getting very few sales, now I prefer to make a batch of 1 or 2 that I know will sell quite often. 1% of my images are responsible for more than 30% of my sales.

Really? You can guarantee that good images won't be buried in the blink of an eye? You surprise me.

I can Guarantee it for me.

So did I...So did I man. they still show up every Now and then and Im talking Images that are in the 5000 DL Range. Really burned me up when they changed the search

That's a bit odd, because I can't do it and yet when I compare our portfolios on DT I notice that with a near identical number of images online I've outsold you by more than two to one. Yet all I'm doing is sending images in to see what sticks.

DT was hot for many years,2006/2009 then ...Long before the drop from others came they went to sleep for me. and still are. I upload there But never get around to finish submitting.FT for me is coming Back[a bit]. 123 Looking surprisingly good of Late.  Im pretty regimented in workflow and time spent. Microstock has never been and probably will never be more than 20% 25% max of what I need to make as a full Timer, My Income is derived from residuals on 40 years Music Biz, Rentals of my work for 12 years Mostly Paintings to be used in TV and Film Interior set decoration. Huge business and my agent is very happy. I also do Location footage for productions around LA and Stills for films. If this was all I did? Or could do..I for sure would have quit the first year. This is a supplement. I Never said I made a lot of money and I make more teaching than submitting stock, Doing workshops,Selling Books and submitting Video Tutorials to Skillfeed which, BTW I highly recommend to anyone with stuff to share.

Micro pays for equipment,Taxes,Health insurance, Cars. Thats about it. And for time spent [Other than forums] LOL thats good enough for me. Have a paid for beautiful Home in LA,[Bev Hills area] that takes a lot to maintain and Luckily have a VERY supportive wife that Does Extremely well. It's all good and when I go My kids are very well Taken care of forever.  Nothing I really need and I try to give back all I can weather they Listen or not But...That too will come to a close soon.

Be Well and BTW Is BaldricksTrousers an expression? I can't remember. It is catchy though.

Lots of new sites on the horizon and I like new sites, Gotta give em a chance.

I;ve been starving Living on the floor freezing trying to make it,and been wealthy also. Like my Dad used to say "It's not about how much you make, it's about what you keep"
« Last Edit: November 22, 2014, 13:59 by Rinderart »

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« Reply #54 on: November 22, 2014, 14:06 »
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Laurin is right. If you treat it like a normal job, follow trends and upload new content every day, you will see sales growth. If you try to coast by on old best sellers, you will be disappointed. It's been like that for a couple of years now.

I simply got Lazy Rob, Then the fall Came and Of course Blamed everyone but me. On track Now.
Does that mean you dont consider issues at SS to be problem any more? It was your fault that your sales dropped March 2013 and for 18 months you had it wrong?

« Reply #55 on: November 22, 2014, 14:49 »
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Laurin is right. If you treat it like a normal job, follow trends and upload new content every day, you will see sales growth. If you try to coast by on old best sellers, you will be disappointed. It's been like that for a couple of years now.

I simply got Lazy Rob, Then the fall Came and Of course Blamed everyone but me. On track Now.
Does that mean you dont consider issues at SS to be problem any more? It was your fault that your sales dropped March 2013 and for 18 months you had it wrong?

is the question i bolded meant for Laurin? if so, i too am wondering why the sudden change of heart. only a few months ago, Laurin had a thread here telling us something is fishy with ss, now he is a cheer-leader.
i want to know too, why the sudden change? ;) what did scott say to you?

« Reply #56 on: November 22, 2014, 14:56 »
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Subnormal Nov


« Reply #57 on: November 22, 2014, 15:07 »
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Be Well and BTW Is BaldricksTrousers an expression? I can't remember. It is catchy though.


It's just something I took from a British TV comedy.

« Reply #58 on: November 22, 2014, 16:12 »
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For us who did not get lazy and slack off, but have been uploading our max ability week after week for years and keep at it, but still see sales and income dropping, any suggestions?   A bit simple to say just produce more and watch the money roll in at this late stage in the game.

Rinderart

« Reply #59 on: November 23, 2014, 01:54 »
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Laurin is right. If you treat it like a normal job, follow trends and upload new content every day, you will see sales growth. If you try to coast by on old best sellers, you will be disappointed. It's been like that for a couple of years now.

I simply got Lazy Rob, Then the fall Came and Of course Blamed everyone but me. On track Now.
Does that mean you dont consider issues at SS to be problem any more? It was your fault that your sales dropped March 2013 and for 18 months you had it wrong?

Beppe Grillo

« Reply #60 on: November 23, 2014, 04:25 »
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For us who did not get lazy and slack off, but have been uploading our max ability week after week for years and keep at it, but still see sales and income dropping, any suggestions?   A bit simple to say just produce more and watch the money roll in at this late stage in the game.

It is not only a question of quantity but of quality too.
1 good image will sell better that 100 bad ones.
A good image is not only a technically good image, but an image meaning something, transmitting an information, a concept, a feeling, an image unique by his content/subject/style, an image that can be used

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« Reply #61 on: November 23, 2014, 04:39 »
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I think pixelbytes know what he is talking about, he's not a newby. If I understand correctly he has a very large high quality port.

Beppe Grillo

« Reply #62 on: November 23, 2014, 04:41 »
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I think pixelbytes know what he is talking about, he's not a newby. If I understand correctly he has a very large high quality port.

Nobody has said the contrary

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« Reply #63 on: November 23, 2014, 04:45 »
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Sorry, when you quoted pixelbytes and told him its a matter of quality over quantity I assumed you you were talking to him

Buffalo Bill

« Reply #64 on: November 23, 2014, 05:12 »
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Sorry, when you quoted pixelbytes and told him its a matter of quality over quantity I assumed you you were talking to him
Ron?

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« Reply #65 on: November 23, 2014, 05:24 »
+1
Sorry, when you quoted pixelbytes and told him its a matter of quality over quantity I assumed you you were talking to him
Ron?
Whats up with him?

Buffalo Bill

« Reply #66 on: November 23, 2014, 05:32 »
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Haven't heard from him in a while. Thought maybe you were him but not.


« Reply #67 on: November 23, 2014, 07:44 »
+1
For us who did not get lazy and slack off, but have been uploading our max ability week after week for years and keep at it, but still see sales and income dropping, any suggestions?   A bit simple to say just produce more and watch the money roll in at this late stage in the game.


I don't know your port. I would suggest trying some new things outside your comfort zone. I went back and reprocessed some images to give them the Instagram look, and they started selling better than the ones with normal processing.

« Reply #68 on: November 23, 2014, 09:06 »
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Sorry, when you quoted pixelbytes and told him its a matter of quality over quantity I assumed you you were talking to him
Ron?
Whats up with him?

He's here under a different name. Haven't seen him post for a week or so though. Do you know him? ;)
« Last Edit: November 23, 2014, 16:08 by Mantis »

« Reply #69 on: November 23, 2014, 16:03 »
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DT is beating out SS for me this month but both are way behind last November - I've barely added anything new, but out of the handful I have, some are selling and when I look at the RPI for new images, it's actually much better than I thought. Well ahead of last year's earning despite not adding a whole lot of new work, so I can't really complain.


Shelma1

« Reply #70 on: November 23, 2014, 17:39 »
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It's not about how much you upload anymore, it's about being better than the top images. If you can't beat them, chances are they'll be buried instantly. I used to get frustrated uploading large batches and getting very few sales, now I prefer to make a batch of 1 or 2 that I know will sell quite often. 1% of my images are responsible for more than 30% of my sales.

Really? You can guarantee that good images won't be buried in the blink of an eye? You surprise me.

I can Guarantee it for me.

So did I...So did I man. they still show up every Now and then and Im talking Images that are in the 5000 DL Range. Really burned me up when they changed the search

That's a bit odd, because I can't do it and yet when I compare our portfolios on DT I notice that with a near identical number of images online I've outsold you by more than two to one. Yet all I'm doing is sending images in to see what sticks.

DT was hot for many years,2006/2009 then ...Long before the drop from others came they went to sleep for me. and still are. I upload there But never get around to finish submitting.FT for me is coming Back[a bit]. 123 Looking surprisingly good of Late.  Im pretty regimented in workflow and time spent. Microstock has never been and probably will never be more than 20% 25% max of what I need to make as a full Timer, My Income is derived from residuals on 40 years Music Biz, Rentals of my work for 12 years Mostly Paintings to be used in TV and Film Interior set decoration. Huge business and my agent is very happy. I also do Location footage for productions around LA and Stills for films. If this was all I did? Or could do..I for sure would have quit the first year. This is a supplement. I Never said I made a lot of money and I make more teaching than submitting stock, Doing workshops,Selling Books and submitting Video Tutorials to Skillfeed which, BTW I highly recommend to anyone with stuff to share.

Micro pays for equipment,Taxes,Health insurance, Cars. Thats about it. And for time spent [Other than forums] LOL thats good enough for me. Have a paid for beautiful Home in LA,[Bev Hills area] that takes a lot to maintain and Luckily have a VERY supportive wife that Does Extremely well. It's all good and when I go My kids are very well Taken care of forever.  Nothing I really need and I try to give back all I can weather they Listen or not But...That too will come to a close soon.

Be Well and BTW Is BaldricksTrousers an expression? I can't remember. It is catchy though.

Lots of new sites on the horizon and I like new sites, Gotta give em a chance.

I;ve been starving Living on the floor freezing trying to make it,and been wealthy also. Like my Dad used to say "It's not about how much you make, it's about what you keep"

What an interesting career you have. I've often wished I got residuals. I've cast some friends in a few of my commercials, and they get paid for years. I get paid once.

I guess microstock is a form of residual. :)
« Last Edit: November 23, 2014, 17:43 by Shelma1 »

PZF

« Reply #71 on: November 24, 2014, 02:58 »
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Last week just about beat Christmas and Easter weeks this year at SS. Despite 800 images more online. Not good.

« Reply #72 on: November 24, 2014, 14:08 »
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For us who did not get lazy and slack off, but have been uploading our max ability week after week for years and keep at it, but still see sales and income dropping, any suggestions?   A bit simple to say just produce more and watch the money roll in at this late stage in the game.


I don't know your port. I would suggest trying some new things outside your comfort zone. I went back and reprocessed some images to give them the Instagram look, and they started selling better than the ones with normal processing.

Thank you.  Good suggestion.  I have tried doing some things like this and they do sell, but this takes time and I can still only produce so many good hcv images per week without help.  With reducing income I don't even consider taking on help.

It is nice when people like Rinder and Rob share suggestions.  Most do not anymore.  They are worth trying.

  For me, I planned to try doubling output for six months to see if I could increase income average near past levels.  So far I haven't been able to double the output.  Sounds doable, but with limited hours of the day i have not found time.
« Last Edit: November 24, 2014, 15:32 by PixelBytes »

« Reply #73 on: November 24, 2014, 15:29 »
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For us who did not get lazy and slack off, but have been uploading our max ability week after week for years and keep at it, but still see sales and income dropping, any suggestions?   A bit simple to say just produce more and watch the money roll in at this late stage in the game.


I don't know your port. I would suggest trying some new things outside your comfort zone. I went back and reprocessed some images to give them the Instagram look, and they started selling better than the ones with normal processing.

Thank you.  Good suggestion.  I have tried doing some things like this and they do sell, but this takes time and I can still only produce so many good hcv images per week without help.  With reducing income I don't even consider taking on help.

It is nice when people like Rinder and Rob share suggestions.  Most do not anymore.  They are worth trying.

  For me, I planned to try doubling output for six months to see if I could increase income average near past levels.  So far I haven't been able to double the output. I hope maybe after Xmas I can try it and keep quality and originality.   If it succeeds it will be a lot of work. At least if it fails I can take a nap and spend more time with my kids!

Try using the Catalogue Manager at SS to monitor how much your new work is actually making. Create a new Set for each month's work (i.e. containing all the images uploaded during that month) and it will continually update the sales and revenue generated by those images.

From that you will be able to derive the revenue per image/month. I reckon a microstock image to have a 'working life' of about 5 years so if you multiply the revenue per month by 60x then you will have roughly projected how much your month's work is likely to be worth over its full term.

I recently created a Set for each month worked over the last couple of years. I found the results both surprising and highly motivating. I discovered that newer images were much more important to maintaining or increasing revenue on SS than I was previously aware. Most importantly I've determined that creating new images is most definitely still worthwhile __ even if you only uploaded them to SS. The revenue from other agencies is just an additional bonus!

« Reply #74 on: November 24, 2014, 15:36 »
+1
For us who did not get lazy and slack off, but have been uploading our max ability week after week for years and keep at it, but still see sales and income dropping, any suggestions?   A bit simple to say just produce more and watch the money roll in at this late stage in the game.


I don't know your port. I would suggest trying some new things outside your comfort zone. I went back and reprocessed some images to give them the Instagram look, and they started selling better than the ones with normal processing.

Thank you.  Good suggestion.  I have tried doing some things like this and they do sell, but this takes time and I can still only produce so many good hcv images per week without help.  With reducing income I don't even consider taking on help.

It is nice when people like Rinder and Rob share suggestions.  Most do not anymore.  They are worth trying.

  For me, I planned to try doubling output for six months to see if I could increase income average near past levels.  So far I haven't been able to double the output. I hope maybe after Xmas I can try it and keep quality and originality.   If it succeeds it will be a lot of work. At least if it fails I can take a nap and spend more time with my kids!

Try using the Catalogue Manager at SS to monitor how much your new work is actually making. Create a new Set for each month's work (i.e. containing all the images uploaded during that month) and it will continually update the sales and revenue generated by those images.

From that you will be able to derive the revenue per image/month. I reckon a microstock image to have a 'working life' of about 5 years so if you multiply the revenue per month by 60x then you will have roughly projected how much your month's work is likely to be worth over its full term.

I recently created a Set for each month worked over the last couple of years. I found the results both surprising and highly motivating. I discovered that newer images were much more important to maintaining or increasing revenue on SS than I was previously aware. Most importantly I've determined that creating new images is most definitely still worthwhile __ even if you only uploaded them to SS. The revenue from other agencies is just an additional bonus!

Great suggestion!  I never knew that was possible to do.  I will spend some time to set this up.  If my results are like yours, it will be motivation to spend the time making more volume of new work.  Many thanks for constructive idea. 


 

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