Author Topic: Very poor sales in Nov!! :( (Read 27003 times)

captain · « **on:** November 17, 2014, 03:30 »

As of today,only 1/3 sales against last month.All the newly uploaded photo almost no sales.What's up with SS??

r2d2 · « **Reply #1 on:** November 17, 2014, 04:04 »

me too last month a BME this month a decrease about 60%.
I find it also on the rather old to middle-aged sell new pictures are almost not there.

Looks as if they had played at the search algorithm...

captain · « **Reply #2 on:** November 17, 2014, 05:36 »

Thanks for your reply.

I dun want the same thing happened with Shutterstock

. I already recalled all the photo from fotolia and DT performance,as you all knew, very poor from long time ago.

Beppe Grillo · « **Reply #3 on:** November 17, 2014, 06:28 »

Same here, around 60% of my normal sales (at this date) on Shutterstock
Beside this, Fotolia has made a jump of 200%+ compared to my previous BME

A consequence of global warming? Or some weird change in their search algorithm ?

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #4 on:** November 17, 2014, 06:47 »

It seems normal to me and I am selling pictures that have been uploaded within the last month, so it's not just that my images are spread pretty evenly from 2004 to date.

Dook · « **Reply #5 on:** November 17, 2014, 06:49 »

It seems normal to me, too.

captain · « **Reply #6 on:** November 17, 2014, 08:26 »

Quote from: Dook on November 17, 2014, 06:49

It seems normal to me, too.

it is good to hear that.thanks for information

borg · « **Reply #7 on:** November 17, 2014, 08:32 »

lower more than half

Mantis · « **Reply #8 on:** November 17, 2014, 08:37 »

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on November 17, 2014, 06:47

It seems normal to me and I am selling pictures that have been uploaded within the last month, so it's not just that my images are spread pretty evenly from 2004 to date.

In my humble opinion normal is different today than when I started in micro stock 8 years ago. Monthly revenue was far more predictable. Today, normal for me is wild swings in revenue. This month SS is doing fine, but Dreamtime and Istock are 70% down as of the 15th with Thanksgiving week next week. So as a whole I expect a crumb-bum month. This is the new norm for me. One month might be monster good and the next gutter bad. And while one agency does well in the same month, the other tanks. In my opinion this is the new norm and I expect that cycle to continue on a downward trend. I make this comment based on the 80/20 rule because I know there are those who will say that their overall revenue is growing. For the masses that is not the case, but for some, it is the case.

sgoodwin4813 · « **Reply #9 on:** November 17, 2014, 08:51 »

I agree with Mantis - wild swings seem to be normal but the overall trend is down. For me volume on SS so far this month is down about 35% from the first six months of the year with very little activity on new files. BS, CS and 123 have crashed completely with the few sales being pitiful subs. Last month on 123 was my BME, but so far this month it is the worst since I started in 2009 - weird. DT and FT hanging in there. If it continues for the rest of the month I will barely make my average for 2011 - quite a step backwards.

Shelma1 · « **Reply #10 on:** November 17, 2014, 09:21 »

Seems normal, which is to say holiday images are selling more and non-holiday images less.

mojaric · « **Reply #11 on:** November 17, 2014, 09:53 »

me too....30% less than october since now

Elenathewise · « **Reply #12 on:** November 17, 2014, 11:17 »

Quote from: Mantis on November 17, 2014, 08:37

In my humble opinion normal is different today than when I started in micro stock 8 years ago. Monthly revenue was far more predictable. Today, normal for me is wild swings in revenue. This month SS is doing fine, but Dreamtime and Istock are 70% down as of the 15th with Thanksgiving week next week. So as a whole I expect a crumb-bum month. This is the new norm for me. One month might be monster good and the next gutter bad. And while one agency does well in the same month, the other tanks. In my opinion this is the new norm and I expect that cycle to continue on a downward trend. I make this comment based on the 80/20 rule because I know there are those who will say that their overall revenue is growing. For the masses that is not the case, but for some, it is the case.

I suspect stock agencies have to rotate their content in some ways to get their huge libraries exposed to customers... if your images get more exposure during high season you get the "monster good", if not - well you get below "normal". The thing is everyone's in the same boat - so the sales probably average out over a year or so. Better look at yearly numbers to see where things are going I think.

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #13 on:** November 17, 2014, 12:03 »

Yes, it's up for me but odd. I uploaded 150 new images last week, and the batch of 200 that I uploaded in April, all of a sudden started selling today.

So are new images getting the attention, driving customers to my older images? Pretty strange.

That, and Weekends generally are my two worst days. Sunday I just had as many DLs as the best days of the month for Nov. Those April images. They are not Christmas or holiday shots.

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on November 17, 2014, 06:47

It seems normal to me and I am selling pictures that have been uploaded within the last month, so it's not just that my images are spread pretty evenly from 2004 to date.

AND:
"I suspect stock agencies have to rotate their content in some ways to get their huge libraries exposed to customers... "

sounds logical.

spike · « **Reply #14 on:** November 17, 2014, 12:44 »

-10% compared to October

But Oct was BME, so that's nothing strange. I'd say an average month. We'll see.

Mantis · « **Reply #15 on:** November 17, 2014, 13:00 »

Quote from: Elenathewise on November 17, 2014, 11:17

Quote from: Mantis on November 17, 2014, 08:37

In my humble opinion normal is different today than when I started in micro stock 8 years ago. Monthly revenue was far more predictable. Today, normal for me is wild swings in revenue. This month SS is doing fine, but Dreamtime and Istock are 70% down as of the 15th with Thanksgiving week next week. So as a whole I expect a crumb-bum month. This is the new norm for me. One month might be monster good and the next gutter bad. And while one agency does well in the same month, the other tanks. In my opinion this is the new norm and I expect that cycle to continue on a downward trend. I make this comment based on the 80/20 rule because I know there are those who will say that their overall revenue is growing. For the masses that is not the case, but for some, it is the case.

I suspect stock agencies have to rotate their content in some ways to get their huge libraries exposed to customers... if your images get more exposure during high season you get the "monster good", if not - well you get below "normal". The thing is everyone's in the same boat - so the sales probably average out over a year or so. Better look at yearly numbers to see where things are going I think.

But the fact remains that agencies continue to find ways to screw the contributor financially so unless you can keep up with those cuts via large upload volume you revenue year over year will still go down, for the most part. I do agree that we have to now look at our sales over a longer period to see the ACTUAL averages, because they will indeed vary a lot by month....again in the lions share of cases. So today we have lower revenue ....commissions....and big cyclical swings in that lower revenue.

CCK · « **Reply #16 on:** November 17, 2014, 13:33 »

I'm at exactly 10% of my total for October, also 10% of my total for September.

Buffalo Bill · « **Reply #17 on:** November 17, 2014, 14:08 »

So far worse month ever in 4 years for the month of November. I am at 25 percent of last year November.

Pixart · « **Reply #18 on:** November 17, 2014, 15:51 »

What is going on, did I sleep through November? When I went to bed last night there were still two weeks left

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #19 on:** November 17, 2014, 16:02 »

Obviously, one change down the years has been a steady decline in returns, otherwise we wouldn't have to keep uploading simply to cling on to earnings levels we have , if we are able to do that (and I doubt if many long-term contributors are).

Rinderart · « **Reply #20 on:** November 17, 2014, 17:25 »

October was great, Not BME but doable and satisfied. Nov is amazing good +45%. Happy to say.

cascoly · « **Reply #21 on:** November 17, 2014, 19:13 »

on track for slightly higher than normal month, with newer SS images getting bigger share (+200 images added each month recently); images from Utah last fall & turkey in May doing well

other agencies have their usual sawtooth swings -- DT continues to underperform while 123 now mre consiostently in 2nd place

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #22 on:** November 17, 2014, 19:19 »

Plain as day, SS is now favoring Seniors in the Fall Months. LOL

Only people over 65 are getting good DLs. Don't fret young people, in the Spring we get shuffled off to the back burner and you get the action.

Best 25-a-day ever, since probably 2008 , TODAY. I don't understand why. It's all old files. But I'm not complaining.

Quote from: Rinderart on November 17, 2014, 17:25

October was great, Not BME but doable and satisfied. Nov is amazing good +45%. Happy to say.

captain · « **Reply #23 on:** November 18, 2014, 00:04 »

Quote from: CCK on November 17, 2014, 13:33

I'm at exactly 10% of my total for October, also 10% of my total for September.

only 10% of Oct? it tooooo bad.It is expected I only have 40% of oct.

BigBubba · « **Reply #24 on:** November 18, 2014, 06:36 »

For me double the sales and half the money.

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