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Title: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: helloitsme on February 06, 2018, 14:00
Sales just stopped it seems like. 
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: Dumc on February 06, 2018, 14:04
So you felt, you need to open new topic about it? Probably about 639439349 topics about "no sales" already.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: helloitsme on February 06, 2018, 14:06
So you felt, you need to open new topic about it? Probably about 639439349 topics about "no sales" already.

Is your sales normal today?
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: helloitsme on February 06, 2018, 14:07
There are a lot of factors in play today.  Technical glitch that may or may not be fixed already.  Stock market crashing and possibly starting recession.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: Dumc on February 06, 2018, 14:10
What have you been smoking?
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: helloitsme on February 06, 2018, 14:12
What have you've been smoking?

I'm sorry if I hurt your feeling.  I apologize.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: Dumc on February 06, 2018, 14:16
What have you've been smoking?

I'm sorry if I hurt your feeling.  I apologize.

You didn't.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: cathyslife on February 06, 2018, 15:24
There are a lot of factors in play today.  Technical glitch that may or may not be fixed already.  Stock market crashing and possibly starting recession.
Making America great again!  >:(
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: helloitsme on February 06, 2018, 15:57
There are a lot of factors in play today.  Technical glitch that may or may not be fixed already.  Stock market crashing and possibly starting recession.
Making America great again!  >:(

LOL
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: Sammy the Cat on February 06, 2018, 16:32
What have you've been smoking?

I'm sorry if I hurt your feeling.  I apologize.

You didn't.

Not even a little bit "butthurt"? ::)
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: HalfFull on February 06, 2018, 16:37
So you felt, you need to open new topic about it? Probably about 639439349 topics about "no sales" already.

However today they are correct. No sales. There's been a technical problem that resulted in sales appearing and disappearing for the first half of the day followed by nothing at all.

Jon Oringer confirmed the issue had been identified and they were in the process of resolving it but no data was lost.... they just need to rebuild "Daily Earnings". Starting to see the sales filter through now.

People who spot these issues shouldn't be ridiculed but thanked.... as it is those people who highlight problems that are then resolved rather than go unnoticed.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: helloitsme on February 06, 2018, 17:57
So you felt, you need to open new topic about it? Probably about 639439349 topics about "no sales" already.

However today they are correct. No sales. There's been a technical problem that resulted in sales appearing and disappearing for the first half of the day followed by nothing at all.

Jon Oringer confirmed the issue had been identified and they were in the process of resolving it but no data was lost.... they just need to rebuild "Daily Earnings". Starting to see the sales filter through now.

People who spot these issues shouldn't be ridiculed but thanked.... as it is those people who highlight problems that are then resolved rather than go unnoticed.

I agree with you.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: namussi on February 06, 2018, 20:26
Sales just stopped it seems like.

You need more concept pictures on the subject of "stock market panic".
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: pkphotos on February 06, 2018, 23:03
I am currently crying. I've had zero sales today.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: Saurav on February 06, 2018, 23:17
This month has been hell. I am 50% down in sales.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: Pauws99 on February 07, 2018, 01:46
Sales just stopped it seems like.

You need more concept pictures on the subject of "stock market panic".
Lots of pics of people sitting behind multi screens on UK news sites...
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: Chichikov on February 07, 2018, 01:49
Sales just stopped it seems like.

My best day since November 2017
That's microstock my friend!
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: Dumc on February 07, 2018, 14:06
And your next post again will be "microstock is dead".
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: JimP on February 09, 2018, 18:05
This month has been hell. I am 50% down in sales.

Good news, if it was down 16 % that would right for the 6th of the month.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: Video-StockOrg on February 12, 2018, 06:16
Anyone else noticing complete shutdown of sales for the past week? This would be the worst month ever since we contribute if this blackout continues.  :o
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: Pauws99 on February 12, 2018, 07:31
Anyone else noticing complete shutdown of sales for the past week? This would be the worst month ever since we contribute if this blackout continues.  :o
Nope apart from the small sites which seem to be dying actually a goodish start to the month
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: StockbyNumbers on February 12, 2018, 07:34
4 sales for me last week for around $140 which is pretty normal.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: derek on February 12, 2018, 09:16
Microstock is dead!
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: jonbull on February 12, 2018, 09:38
we went from a 6 days working week to a 3 days...monday friday are like weekend.
appalling monday.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: jonbull on February 12, 2018, 09:38
Microstock is dead!

i'd say pharmaceutical coma.)
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: Sammy the Cat on February 12, 2018, 10:35
Anyone else noticing complete shutdown of sales for the past week? This would be the worst month ever since we contribute if this blackout continues.  :o

Yup it's been dead all month Shutterstock even more so
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: hatman12 on February 12, 2018, 16:52
Very likely all eyes are focussed on the Winter Olympics and Valentines Day.  I've noticed in the past Summer and Winter Olympics that my sales slow down during the games.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: dbvirago on February 12, 2018, 21:08
So you felt, you need to open new topic about it? Probably about 639439349 topics about "no sales" already.

Is your sales normal today?

After reading this, I became concerned, so I checked the sales on my previous 4,380 days here and discovered that sales were better than my worst day and worse than my best day.  I was going to compare it to my previous 12 second Mondays in February, but I lost interest.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: Saurav on February 13, 2018, 08:08
Worst month ever.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: YadaYadaYada on February 13, 2018, 09:56
So you felt, you need to open new topic about it? Probably about 639439349 topics about "no sales" already.

Is your sales normal today?

After reading this, I became concerned, so I checked the sales on my previous 4,380 days here and discovered that sales were better than my worst day and worse than my best day.  I was going to compare it to my previous 12 second Mondays in February, but I lost interest.

I think you need to check hour by hour, include when Ash Wednesday was the same day as Valentine's day. I think the Moon has an effect, sales improve or decline when it's around the full moon. I'm positive, when the 1st is a Thursday or Friday sales for the first two weeks will be lower than if the 1st is a Monday. It's Mardi Gras, Shrove Tuesday today, probably why sales are up for me.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: Pauws99 on February 13, 2018, 10:34
Sadly my formerly reliable Valentine's day seller has barely registered this year I can only assume romance is dead. Maybe I should have done some pancake day ones to compete with the mere 10,116 already up for grabs.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: jonbull on February 16, 2018, 07:38
They messed up again with algorithm i hope because  week li,e this is  impossible to believe. A bu ch of sod everyday and thats all. Worst week in last 2 year
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: derek on February 16, 2018, 09:31
My cap was lifted for 3 days and during that period totally fantastic,  then they switched off and daily takings fell by 70% and not only me but same with a whole bunch of oldies!
Very questionable indeed actually!
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: Saurav on February 16, 2018, 09:44
Zero sales today  :(
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: jonbull on February 16, 2018, 09:50
i don't know what think  till 17 th january impressive result than less than 25% of what earned in 17 th days. last week appalling with less than 100 sod only. 3 2,85 sale.
in my opinion this site has a lot of glitches and problem, it would be nice some buyer tells if it's true. yesterday ftp broken for long time....today sales appears slowly in total earning, total earning not linked to real sales.
they clearly cannot manage the flow of  bull...it from amateur.
yesterday saw some images appalling. i went to read the forum of shutter stock and i stumbled on one thread of a guy asking some comments about portfolio...i started crying. unbelievable.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: YadaYadaYada on February 16, 2018, 11:40
My cap was lifted for 3 days and during that period totally fantastic,  then they switched off and daily takings fell by 70% and not only me but same with a whole bunch of oldies!
Very questionable indeed actually!

(https://www.bing.com/th?id=A16eac58081bd17f5638cb66beabb8f29&w=75&h=75&c=7&rs=1&qlt=80&cdv=1&pid=16.1)
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: namussi on February 16, 2018, 11:53
My cap was lifted for 3 days and during that period totally fantastic,  then they switched off and daily takings fell by 70% and not only me but same with a whole bunch of oldies!
Very questionable indeed actually!

Why do they lift and replace the cap for you and your chums at the same time?
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: Pauws99 on February 16, 2018, 12:59
When I have good sales it's obviously due to skills and the algorithm is clearly adjusted to be perfectly fair to all contributors. If I have bad sales then then its obviously unfairly manipulated.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: Dumc on February 16, 2018, 13:08
i don't know what think  till 17 th january impressive result than less than 25% of what earned in 17 th days. last week appalling with less than 100 sod only. 3 2,85 sale.
in my opinion this site has a lot of glitches and problem, it would be nice some buyer tells if it's true. yesterday ftp broken for long time....today sales appears slowly in total earning, total earning not linked to real sales.
they clearly cannot manage the flow of  bull...it from amateur.
yesterday saw some images appalling. i went to read the forum of shutter stock and i stumbled on one thread of a guy asking some comments about portfolio...i started crying. unbelievable.

We're crying too, reading your same * over and over and over and over and over again. ...and over again.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: jonbull on February 16, 2018, 14:17
i don't know what think  till 17 th january impressive result than less than 25% of what earned in 17 th days. last week appalling with less than 100 sod only. 3 2,85 sale.
in my opinion this site has a lot of glitches and problem, it would be nice some buyer tells if it's true. yesterday ftp broken for long time....today sales appears slowly in total earning, total earning not linked to real sales.
they clearly cannot manage the flow of  bull...it from amateur.
yesterday saw some images appalling. i went to read the forum of shutter stock and i stumbled on one thread of a guy asking some comments about portfolio...i started crying. unbelievable.

We're crying too, reading your same * over and over and over and over and over again. ...and over again.

sure for u selling 2 photo a day is normal considering the quality of portfolio.
i'm talking for serious contributor.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: jonbull on February 16, 2018, 14:18
When I have good sales it's obviously due to skills and the algorithm is clearly adjusted to be perfectly fair to all contributors. If I have bad sales then then its obviously unfairly manipulated.

well is not like this. but i see amateur who sell 2 3 files a day cannot understand an easy point.
i have never talked about fotolia changing algorithm? or stock?
no.
it's clear that shutter stock do this. 0,26 cent vs 0,38 multiplied for millions...can you understand?
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: jonbull on February 16, 2018, 14:20
When I have good sales it's obviously due to skills and the algorithm is clearly adjusted to be perfectly fair to all contributors. If I have bad sales then then its obviously unfairly manipulated.

well is not like this. but i see amateur who sell 2 3 files a day cannot understand an easy point.
i have never talked about fotolia changing algorithm, or stock. no never.

it's clear that shutter stock do this. 0,26 cent vs 0,38 multiplied for millions...can you understand?
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: jonbull on February 16, 2018, 14:21
When I have good sales it's obviously due to skills and the algorithm is clearly adjusted to be perfectly fair to all contributors. If I have bad sales then then its obviously unfairly manipulated.

well is not like this. but i see amateur who sell 2 3 files a day cannot understand an easy point.
i have never talked about fotolia changing algorithm, or stock. no never.

it's clear that shutter stock do this. 0,26 cent vs 0,38 multiplied for millions...can you understand?
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: jonbull on February 16, 2018, 14:23
i don't know what think  till 17 th january impressive result than less than 25% of what earned in 17 th days. last week appalling with less than 100 sod only. 3 2,85 sale.
in my opinion this site has a lot of glitches and problem, it would be nice some buyer tells if it's true. yesterday ftp broken for long time....today sales appears slowly in total earning, total earning not linked to real sales.
they clearly cannot manage the flow of  bull...it from amateur.
yesterday saw some images appalling. i went to read the forum of shutter stock and i stumbled on one thread of a guy asking some comments about portfolio...i started crying. unbelievable.

We're crying too, reading your same * over and over and over and over and over again. ...and over again.

by the way...even in shutter stock forum administrator has stated that they have problems since 29 january. bang bang.

Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: Sammy the Cat on February 16, 2018, 14:34
i don't know what think  till 17 th january impressive result than less than 25% of what earned in 17 th days. last week appalling with less than 100 sod only. 3 2,85 sale.
in my opinion this site has a lot of glitches and problem, it would be nice some buyer tells if it's true. yesterday ftp broken for long time....today sales appears slowly in total earning, total earning not linked to real sales.
they clearly cannot manage the flow of  bull...it from amateur.
yesterday saw some images appalling. i went to read the forum of shutter stock and i stumbled on one thread of a guy asking some comments about portfolio...i started crying. unbelievable.

We're crying too, reading your same * over and over and over and over and over again. ...and over again.

Who is this WE or are you refering to yourself in the "royal" third person now :D

Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: jonbull on February 16, 2018, 14:41
i don't know what think  till 17 th january impressive result than less than 25% of what earned in 17 th days. last week appalling with less than 100 sod only. 3 2,85 sale.
in my opinion this site has a lot of glitches and problem, it would be nice some buyer tells if it's true. yesterday ftp broken for long time....today sales appears slowly in total earning, total earning not linked to real sales.
they clearly cannot manage the flow of  bull...it from amateur.
yesterday saw some images appalling. i went to read the forum of shutter stock and i stumbled on one thread of a guy asking some comments about portfolio...i started crying. unbelievable.

We're crying too, reading your same * over and over and over and over and over again. ...and over again.

Who is this WE or are you refering to yourself in the "royal" third person now :D

he not have a clue.
i read often the russian micro stock forum....a place with really thousand of contributor some earning probably more than all the daily contributor here together , and practically every contributor thinks that sales are practically 100% controlled by shutter stock. How couldn't be so clear? they are the only in stock market..they need to earn, they must have  steady grow.

there is always a clear path. something non existent in fotolia or istock.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: Dumc on February 16, 2018, 14:43
i don't know what think  till 17 th january impressive result than less than 25% of what earned in 17 th days. last week appalling with less than 100 sod only. 3 2,85 sale.
in my opinion this site has a lot of glitches and problem, it would be nice some buyer tells if it's true. yesterday ftp broken for long time....today sales appears slowly in total earning, total earning not linked to real sales.
they clearly cannot manage the flow of  bull...it from amateur.
yesterday saw some images appalling. i went to read the forum of shutter stock and i stumbled on one thread of a guy asking some comments about portfolio...i started crying. unbelievable.

We're crying too, reading your same * over and over and over and over and over again. ...and over again.

Who is this WE or are you refering to yourself in the "royal" third person now :D

he not have a clue.
i read often the russian micro stock forum....a place with really thousand of contributor some earning probably more than all the daily contributor here together , and practically every contributor thinks that sales are practically 100% controlled by shutter stock. How couldn't be so clear? they are the only in stock market..they need to earn, they must have  steady grow.

there is always a clear path. something non existent in fotolia or istock.

And what are you planning to do about it?
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: Pauws99 on February 16, 2018, 14:55
i don't know what think  till 17 th january impressive result than less than 25% of what earned in 17 th days. last week appalling with less than 100 sod only. 3 2,85 sale.
in my opinion this site has a lot of glitches and problem, it would be nice some buyer tells if it's true. yesterday ftp broken for long time....today sales appears slowly in total earning, total earning not linked to real sales.
they clearly cannot manage the flow of  bull...it from amateur.
yesterday saw some images appalling. i went to read the forum of shutter stock and i stumbled on one thread of a guy asking some comments about portfolio...i started crying. unbelievable.

We're crying too, reading your same * over and over and over and over and over again. ...and over again.

Who is this WE or are you refering to yourself in the "royal" third person now :D

he not have a clue.
i read often the russian micro stock forum....a place with really thousand of contributor some earning probably more than all the daily contributor here together , and practically every contributor thinks that sales are practically 100% controlled by shutter stock. How couldn't be so clear? they are the only in stock market..they need to earn, they must have  steady grow.

there is always a clear path. something non existent in fotolia or istock.
Why apply a cap why not just direct buyers to the 25c offerings if the buyers are happy to buy them instead of your superior work whats the problem? If SS want to apply a "cap" they are entitled to why don't you take your business elsewhere if you dislike them so much?
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: Dumc on February 16, 2018, 15:05
i don't know what think  till 17 th january impressive result than less than 25% of what earned in 17 th days. last week appalling with less than 100 sod only. 3 2,85 sale.
in my opinion this site has a lot of glitches and problem, it would be nice some buyer tells if it's true. yesterday ftp broken for long time....today sales appears slowly in total earning, total earning not linked to real sales.
they clearly cannot manage the flow of  bull...it from amateur.
yesterday saw some images appalling. i went to read the forum of shutter stock and i stumbled on one thread of a guy asking some comments about portfolio...i started crying. unbelievable.

We're crying too, reading your same * over and over and over and over and over again. ...and over again.

sure for u selling 2 photo a day is normal considering the quality of portfolio.
i'm talking for serious contributor.

Obviously you're not selling much either, consider your constant whining here.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: Sammy the Cat on February 16, 2018, 15:30
i don't know what think  till 17 th january impressive result than less than 25% of what earned in 17 th days. last week appalling with less than 100 sod only. 3 2,85 sale.
in my opinion this site has a lot of glitches and problem, it would be nice some buyer tells if it's true. yesterday ftp broken for long time....today sales appears slowly in total earning, total earning not linked to real sales.
they clearly cannot manage the flow of  bull...it from amateur.
yesterday saw some images appalling. i went to read the forum of shutter stock and i stumbled on one thread of a guy asking some comments about portfolio...i started crying. unbelievable.

We're crying too, reading your same * over and over and over and over and over again. ...and over again.

sure for u selling 2 photo a day is normal considering the quality of portfolio.
i'm talking for serious contributor.

Obviously you're not selling much either, consider your constant whining here.

Seriously Soru who wants to read your nasty comments do us all a favour and don't bother coming here if you hate it that much.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: Dumc on February 16, 2018, 15:41
Don't hate the Messenger, hate the message!
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: Sammy the Cat on February 16, 2018, 15:51
Don't hate the Messenger, hate the message!

(https://bloomingoniontree.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/thumper1.jpg?w=490)
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: namussi on February 17, 2018, 02:10

i read often the russian micro stock forum....a place with really thousand of contributor some earning probably more than all the daily contributor here together , and practically every contributor thinks that sales are practically 100% controlled by shutter stock. How couldn't be so clear? they are the only in stock market..they need to earn, they must have  steady grow.



The paranoid groupthink legacy of communism. 
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: Sammy the Cat on February 17, 2018, 09:29

i read often the russian micro stock forum....a place with really thousand of contributor some earning probably more than all the daily contributor here together , and practically every contributor thinks that sales are practically 100% controlled by shutter stock. How couldn't be so clear? they are the only in stock market..they need to earn, they must have  steady grow.



The paranoid groupthink legacy of communism.

Of course it must be, god forbid they might actually have a valid point  ::)
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: niktol on February 17, 2018, 09:47
I should ask them to make my investments.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: YadaYadaYada on February 17, 2018, 11:14
Don't hate the Messenger, hate the message!

(https://bloomingoniontree.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/thumper1.jpg?w=490)

(https://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.umb05c-O5St4pqx-X862VgHaD5&w=276&h=152&c=7&o=5&pid=1.7)
There's no proof of a cap, no reason, nothing except a small group who thinks there's some conspiracy against them who can't stop writing about sales, complaining and blaming the agency for some trick. DUMC is right, they write the same over and over but never with any proof. Sure the search changes, it changes for all of us.
SS doesn't have an interest in any favorites let the buyers decide. That's why they take almost anything now, no standards just let the buyers decide. Some time ago people wanted that, less rejections, let the buyers decide. Now we have that and the same people complain about low standards.

Just can't win with complainers always finding something wrong, always blaming someone else or something else for what's just normal. If the site is broken, it's broke for all of us the same.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: jonbull on February 18, 2018, 13:28
Don't hate the Messenger, hate the message!

(https://bloomingoniontree.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/thumper1.jpg?w=490)

(https://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.umb05c-O5St4pqx-X862VgHaD5&w=276&h=152&c=7&o=5&pid=1.7)
There's no proof of a cap, no reason, nothing except a small group who thinks there's some conspiracy against them who can't stop writing about sales, complaining and blaming the agency for some trick. DUMC is right, they write the same over and over but never with any proof. Sure the search changes, it changes for all of us.
SS doesn't have an interest in any favorites let the buyers decide. That's why they take almost anything now, no standards just let the buyers decide. Some time ago people wanted that, less rejections, let the buyers decide. Now we have that and the same people complain about low standards.

Just can't win with complainers always finding something wrong, always blaming someone else or something else for what's just normal. If the site is broken, it's broke for all of us the same.


you cant see cause your level of sales is so tiny u cannot see...u dumb are amateur. who happy with 100 dollar month from stock photography. that's why is impossible to discuss with you.

you think 0,28 vs 0,36cent is not an argument?they accept anything just to sell file at ',26 cent. understand?
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: jonbull on February 18, 2018, 13:29
Don't hate the Messenger, hate the message!

(https://bloomingoniontree.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/thumper1.jpg?w=490)

(https://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.umb05c-O5St4pqx-X862VgHaD5&w=276&h=152&c=7&o=5&pid=1.7)
There's no proof of a cap, no reason, nothing except a small group who thinks there's some conspiracy against them who can't stop writing about sales, complaining and blaming the agency for some trick. DUMC is right, they write the same over and over but never with any proof. Sure the search changes, it changes for all of us.
SS doesn't have an interest in any favorites let the buyers decide. That's why they take almost anything now, no standards just let the buyers decide. Some time ago people wanted that, less rejections, let the buyers decide. Now we have that and the same people complain about low standards.

Just can't win with complainers always finding something wrong, always blaming someone else or something else for what's just normal. If the site is broken, it's broke for all of us the same.

u manage 10 k sales in 8 years maybe more...what the f...ck ai can discuss with yoU?
understand?
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: Sammy the Cat on February 18, 2018, 14:42
Don't hate the Messenger, hate the message!

(https://bloomingoniontree.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/thumper1.jpg?w=490)

(https://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.umb05c-O5St4pqx-X862VgHaD5&w=276&h=152&c=7&o=5&pid=1.7)


Nah I just dislike the constant nasty beatchy comments from some quarters
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: YadaYadaYada on February 18, 2018, 20:23
Don't hate the Messenger, hate the message!

(https://bloomingoniontree.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/thumper1.jpg?w=490)

(https://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.umb05c-O5St4pqx-X862VgHaD5&w=276&h=152&c=7&o=5&pid=1.7)


Nah I just dislike the constant nasty beatchy comments from some quarters

Then stop writing them?
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: pkphotos on February 19, 2018, 00:34
How accurate is SS reporting? Is it possible they don't report all sales?
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: BaldricksTrousers on February 19, 2018, 00:55
How accurate is SS reporting? Is it possible they don't report all sales?

Anything is possible but deliberately doing that would be an open-and-shut case of fraud and I doubt if the owners are so poor that they are willing to risk jail to snaffle our 38c commissions.
However, they did once credit me $10 for a referral from a year earlier that had been overlooked - so yes, they can miss things, but if they do then they pay up if they spot the mistake.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: derek on February 19, 2018, 02:04
Simon! No doubt agencies have cleared their strange behaviours with their legal-depts but there is still lots of "legit" skull duggery going on, lots of it. Every single thing they do is based on short term profit thinking.
Their survival is exclusivly based on new contributors with new ports constantly joining! still thinking in terms of a rich over night success.

I think possibly you and me and a few hundred other oldies are among the last ones still involved in micro-stock but if you want to go with a really great RM/RF agency, give me a PM and I tell you! :)
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: namussi on February 19, 2018, 03:17
Don't hate the Messenger, hate the message!

(https://bloomingoniontree.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/thumper1.jpg?w=490)

(https://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.umb05c-O5St4pqx-X862VgHaD5&w=276&h=152&c=7&o=5&pid=1.7)
There's no proof of a cap, no reason, nothing except a small group who thinks there's some conspiracy against them who can't stop writing about sales, complaining and blaming the agency for some trick. DUMC is right, they write the same over and over but never with any proof. Sure the search changes, it changes for all of us.
SS doesn't have an interest in any favorites let the buyers decide. That's why they take almost anything now, no standards just let the buyers decide. Some time ago people wanted that, less rejections, let the buyers decide. Now we have that and the same people complain about low standards.

Just can't win with complainers always finding something wrong, always blaming someone else or something else for what's just normal. If the site is broken, it's broke for all of us the same.


you cant see cause your level of sales is so tiny u cannot see...u dumb are amateur. who happy with 100 dollar month from stock photography. that's why is impossible to discuss with you.

you think 0,28 vs 0,36cent is not an argument?they accept anything just to sell file at ',26 cent. understand?

C'mon then.

Show us your graphs. Show us your spreadsheets. Show us your working.


Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: jonbull on February 19, 2018, 07:33
Don't hate the Messenger, hate the message!

(https://bloomingoniontree.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/thumper1.jpg?w=490)

(https://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.umb05c-O5St4pqx-X862VgHaD5&w=276&h=152&c=7&o=5&pid=1.7)
There's no proof of a cap, no reason, nothing except a small group who thinks there's some conspiracy against them who can't stop writing about sales, complaining and blaming the agency for some trick. DUMC is right, they write the same over and over but never with any proof. Sure the search changes, it changes for all of us.
SS doesn't have an interest in any favorites let the buyers decide. That's why they take almost anything now, no standards just let the buyers decide. Some time ago people wanted that, less rejections, let the buyers decide. Now we have that and the same people complain about low standards.

Just can't win with complainers always finding something wrong, always blaming someone else or something else for what's just normal. If the site is broken, it's broke for all of us the same.


you cant see cause your level of sales is so tiny u cannot see...u dumb are amateur. who happy with 100 dollar month from stock photography. that's why is impossible to discuss with you.

you think 0,28 vs 0,36cent is not an argument?they accept anything just to sell file at ',26 cent. understand?

C'mon then.

Show us your graphs. Show us your spreadsheets. Show us your working.

i will not. u don't trust this? ok good for u....i keep my point ss cap and control through algorithm and internal policy the level of sales. if you don't believe it's ok.
strangely after 15 days of crap in february i had one big sales....i 'm sure the next 12 days of february will be good enough to reach my level of earning who i already know.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: YadaYadaYada on February 19, 2018, 11:23

u manage 10 k sales in 8 years maybe more...what  ai can discuss with yoU?
understand?

You know my sales? Can you link so I can see that data myself? How many years?

How many sales and files does someone have to have to write an opinion here, I'd like to know the rules that you and Michelle have now created. I didn't see them listed when I signed up for the forum. But your point is, I can't see caps because I don't make enough sales? Wait, maybe I'm one of those people who's stealing your front page spot because I'm so terrible and cheap.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: Shelma1 on February 19, 2018, 11:41

u manage 10 k sales in 8 years maybe more...what  ai can discuss with yoU?
understand?

You know my sales? Can you link so I can see that data myself? How many years?

How many sales and files does someone have to have to write an opinion here, I'd like to know the rules that you and Michelle have now created. I didn't see them listed when I signed up for the forum. But your point is, I can't see caps because I don't make enough sales? Wait, maybe I'm one of those people who's stealing your front page spot because I'm so terrible and cheap.

If you don't want everyone to know it took you 8 years to get 10K in sales, don't share that information. Anyone can read that and see you don't have all that many daily sales. And maybe don't claim that more successful microstockers must be wearing tinfoil hats when they have a lot more sales and can clearly see patterns you can't?

I'm guessing there are people here who make 10K a month, a few who make 10K a week. At those sales levels Shuttertock's machinations become a lot clearer, not only because you have enough sales to see drops that are statistically relevant, but also because you pay very careful attention to where your images are ranked, where your competitors are ranked, etc. And you can see that your images, along with those of your major competitors, are subject to the same algorithm changes.

Looking back, of course, I now understand that all those exciting instant sales I got as a newbie were because Shutterstock was pushing my lower-royalty-earning images up in the search.

So you benefit from the algorithms at first, and then you're punished by them as you get more successful. Sort of the exact opposite of what happens in the real world, where you get raises and promotions for doing a good job instead of getting demoted for it.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: SpaceStockFootage on February 19, 2018, 13:30
Sort of the exact opposite of what happens in the real world, where you get raises and promotions for doing a good job instead of getting demoted for it.

Although it would be exactly the same as what happens in the real world, if a company's budget for staff grew slightly every year, and the amount of employees grew considerably.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: YadaYadaYada on February 19, 2018, 13:38

u manage 10 k sales in 8 years maybe more...what  ai can discuss with yoU?
understand?

You know my sales? Can you link so I can see that data myself? How many years?

How many sales and files does someone have to have to write an opinion here, I'd like to know the rules that you and Michelle have now created. I didn't see them listed when I signed up for the forum. But your point is, I can't see caps because I don't make enough sales? Wait, maybe I'm one of those people who's stealing your front page spot because I'm so terrible and cheap.

If you don't want everyone to know it took you 8 years to get 10K in sales, don't share that information. Anyone can read that and see you don't have all that many daily sales. And maybe don't claim that more successful microstockers must be wearing tinfoil hats when they have a lot more sales and can clearly see patterns you can't?

I'm guessing there are people here who make 10K a month, a few who make 10K a week. At those sales levels Shuttertock's machinations become a lot clearer, not only because you have enough sales to see drops that are statistically relevant, but also because you pay very careful attention to where your images are ranked, where your competitors are ranked, etc. And you can see that your images, along with those of your major competitors, are subject to the same algorithm changes.

Looking back, of course, I now understand that all those exciting instant sales I got as a newbie were because Shutterstock was pushing my lower-royalty-earning images up in the search.

So you benefit from the algorithms at first, and then you're punished by them as you get more successful. Sort of the exact opposite of what happens in the real world, where you get raises and promotions for doing a good job instead of getting demoted for it.

Except you don't know my sales or who I am and you're just making this all up to support your impossible conspiracy theory. No one is being demoted for doing a good job, competition and volume of new are extreme, you did't think these good sales would last forever without a flood of competition coming in and taking away your business? Of course you thought that buying a house near an airport meant no airplanes and nothing would ever change there either?

When many of the people here started there were under 10 million photos on SS, maybe 4 million. Now there are 180 million and a million new a month. Did you ever consider that these new photos might also make sales, that many would be similar to yours, or did you expect a monopoly of some sort? Should your work be in front forever and nothing new gets seen? The limit is how many total sales SS or anyplace else can make a year and your percentage is dropping.

You need to consider that I lied about how long it took to reach $10,000 how many years, how many files, because of trolls and stalkers like you and Simon and others who want to use anything someone writes as a way to personally degrade and attack them. False information is a way to throw you off so you don't know anything about who I am, what I shoot or draw or what my actual sales are.

If there was capping, I'd see it. I also trust someone like farble that his sales are steady, but not unlimited or capped either, he just does very good work and there's only so much that one person can sell a month. I don't know how good steady sales can be a bad thing? Growing against the million new images every month is impossible. Staying level is a hard earned prize and deserves admiration in this business.

I love your logic though. I'm too stupid or don't make enough sales so I can't see the cap. It's not just me, you are insulting everyone else here with that kind of arrogant self centered reasoning. We're all inferior to your superior self image, that's why we can't see something that doesn't exist, like you do. We either agree with you or we're dumb and blind or don't make enough. Thanks for the enlightened information that shows your proof, which you have avoided. I can't prove something doesn't exist, that's impossible. So the point for you or someone else is prove it does.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: Shelma1 on February 19, 2018, 13:53

u manage 10 k sales in 8 years maybe more...what  ai can discuss with yoU?
understand?

You know my sales? Can you link so I can see that data myself? How many years?

How many sales and files does someone have to have to write an opinion here, I'd like to know the rules that you and Michelle have now created. I didn't see them listed when I signed up for the forum. But your point is, I can't see caps because I don't make enough sales? Wait, maybe I'm one of those people who's stealing your front page spot because I'm so terrible and cheap.

If you don't want everyone to know it took you 8 years to get 10K in sales, don't share that information. Anyone can read that and see you don't have all that many daily sales. And maybe don't claim that more successful microstockers must be wearing tinfoil hats when they have a lot more sales and can clearly see patterns you can't?

I'm guessing there are people here who make 10K a month, a few who make 10K a week. At those sales levels Shuttertock's machinations become a lot clearer, not only because you have enough sales to see drops that are statistically relevant, but also because you pay very careful attention to where your images are ranked, where your competitors are ranked, etc. And you can see that your images, along with those of your major competitors, are subject to the same algorithm changes.

Looking back, of course, I now understand that all those exciting instant sales I got as a newbie were because Shutterstock was pushing my lower-royalty-earning images up in the search.

So you benefit from the algorithms at first, and then you're punished by them as you get more successful. Sort of the exact opposite of what happens in the real world, where you get raises and promotions for doing a good job instead of getting demoted for it.

Except you don't know my sales or who I am and you're just making this all up to support your impossible conspiracy theory. No one is being demoted for doing a good job, competition and volume of new are extreme, you did't think these good sales would last forever without a flood of competition coming in and taking away your business? Of course you thought that buying a house near an airport meant no airplanes and nothing would ever change there either?

When many of the people here started there were under 10 million photos on SS, maybe 4 million. Now there are 180 million and a million new a month. Did you ever consider that these new photos might also make sales, that many would be similar to yours, or did you expect a monopoly of some sort? Should your work be in front forever and nothing new gets seen? The limit is how many total sales SS or anyplace else can make a year and your percentage is dropping.

You need to consider that I lied about how long it took to reach $10,000 how many years, how many files, because of trolls and stalkers like you and Simon and others who want to use anything someone writes as a way to personally degrade and attack them. False information is a way to throw you off so you don't know anything about who I am, what I shoot or draw or what my actual sales are.

If there was capping, I'd see it. I also trust someone like farble that his sales are steady, but not unlimited or capped either, he just does very good work and there's only so much that one person can sell a month. I don't know how good steady sales can be a bad thing? Growing against the million new images every month is impossible. Staying level is a hard earned prize and deserves admiration in this business.

I love your logic though. I'm too stupid or don't make enough sales so I can't see the cap. It's not just me, you are insulting everyone else here with that kind of arrogant self centered reasoning. We're all inferior to your superior self image, that's why we can't see something that doesn't exist, like you do. We either agree with you or we're dumb and blind or don't make enough. Thanks for the enlightened information that shows your proof, which you have avoided. I can't prove something doesn't exist, that's impossible. So the point for you or someone else is prove it does.

What a hilarious post. Trolls and stalkers? Holy moley. And you think other people are imagining things. Lol.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: Pauws99 on February 19, 2018, 14:19
Sort of the exact opposite of what happens in the real world, where you get raises and promotions for doing a good job instead of getting demoted for it.

Although it would be exactly the same as what happens in the real world, if a company's budget for staff grew slightly every year, and the amount of employees grew considerably.
I always wonder when people talk about "The Real World" in what way are SS not in the Real World? anyway we are not SS employees we are suppliers in SS world all they are interested in is maximising profit.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: YadaYadaYada on February 19, 2018, 16:04

u manage 10 k sales in 8 years maybe more...what  ai can discuss with yoU?
understand?

You know my sales? Can you link so I can see that data myself? How many years?

How many sales and files does someone have to have to write an opinion here, I'd like to know the rules that you and Michelle have now created. I didn't see them listed when I signed up for the forum. But your point is, I can't see caps because I don't make enough sales? Wait, maybe I'm one of those people who's stealing your front page spot because I'm so terrible and cheap.

If you don't want everyone to know it took you 8 years to get 10K in sales, don't share that information. Anyone can read that and see you don't have all that many daily sales. And maybe don't claim that more successful microstockers must be wearing tinfoil hats when they have a lot more sales and can clearly see patterns you can't?

I'm guessing there are people here who make 10K a month, a few who make 10K a week. At those sales levels Shuttertock's machinations become a lot clearer, not only because you have enough sales to see drops that are statistically relevant, but also because you pay very careful attention to where your images are ranked, where your competitors are ranked, etc. And you can see that your images, along with those of your major competitors, are subject to the same algorithm changes.

Looking back, of course, I now understand that all those exciting instant sales I got as a newbie were because Shutterstock was pushing my lower-royalty-earning images up in the search.

So you benefit from the algorithms at first, and then you're punished by them as you get more successful. Sort of the exact opposite of what happens in the real world, where you get raises and promotions for doing a good job instead of getting demoted for it.

Except you don't know my sales or who I am and you're just making this all up to support your impossible conspiracy theory. No one is being demoted for doing a good job, competition and volume of new are extreme, you did't think these good sales would last forever without a flood of competition coming in and taking away your business? Of course you thought that buying a house near an airport meant no airplanes and nothing would ever change there either?

When many of the people here started there were under 10 million photos on SS, maybe 4 million. Now there are 180 million and a million new a month. Did you ever consider that these new photos might also make sales, that many would be similar to yours, or did you expect a monopoly of some sort? Should your work be in front forever and nothing new gets seen? The limit is how many total sales SS or anyplace else can make a year and your percentage is dropping.

You need to consider that I lied about how long it took to reach $10,000 how many years, how many files, because of trolls and stalkers like you and Simon and others who want to use anything someone writes as a way to personally degrade and attack them. False information is a way to throw you off so you don't know anything about who I am, what I shoot or draw or what my actual sales are.

If there was capping, I'd see it. I also trust someone like farble that his sales are steady, but not unlimited or capped either, he just does very good work and there's only so much that one person can sell a month. I don't know how good steady sales can be a bad thing? Growing against the million new images every month is impossible. Staying level is a hard earned prize and deserves admiration in this business.

I love your logic though. I'm too stupid or don't make enough sales so I can't see the cap. It's not just me, you are insulting everyone else here with that kind of arrogant self centered reasoning. We're all inferior to your superior self image, that's why we can't see something that doesn't exist, like you do. We either agree with you or we're dumb and blind or don't make enough. Thanks for the enlightened information that shows your proof, which you have avoided. I can't prove something doesn't exist, that's impossible. So the point for you or someone else is prove it does.

What a hilarious post. Trolls and stalkers? Holy moley. And you think other people are imagining things. Lol.

You have posted before you know who I am, posted the country I live many times and also the city. You say you know my sales and note how long it took me to reach $10,000, and you looked at my account on SS, but you aren't making notes or following me?

Why won't you answer? Everyone here can see that you want to make personal attacks on me instead of answering any questions or what I write. You do that when you can't answer. Why are you following me? I didn't imagine the things you have posted about me because you wanted to say you know who I am. I'd call that stalking.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: Shelma1 on February 19, 2018, 17:50

You have posted before you know who I am, posted the country I live many times and also the city. You say you know my sales and note how long it took me to reach $10,000, and you looked at my account on SS, but you aren't making notes or following me?

Why won't you answer? Everyone here can see that you want to make personal attacks on me instead of answering any questions or what I write. You do that when you can't answer. Why are you following me? I didn't imagine the things you have posted about me because you wanted to say you know who I am. I'd call that stalking.

All the stuff I know about you I know because you posted it here. You said you were from Canada, you posted links to your blog, you announced you recently made a new earnings level at SS after years there.

How the heck else would I know anything about you? I'm not a magician or a mind reader. "Following you." Lolol.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: YadaYadaYada on February 19, 2018, 19:24

You have posted before you know who I am, posted the country I live many times and also the city. You say you know my sales and note how long it took me to reach $10,000, and you looked at my account on SS, but you aren't making notes or following me?

Why won't you answer? Everyone here can see that you want to make personal attacks on me instead of answering any questions or what I write. You do that when you can't answer. Why are you following me? I didn't imagine the things you have posted about me because you wanted to say you know who I am. I'd call that stalking.

All the stuff I know about you I know because you posted it here. You said you were from Canada, you posted links to your blog, you announced you recently made a new earnings level at SS after years there.

How the heck else would I know anything about you? I'm not a magician or a mind reader. "Following you." Lolol.

Let me make this easy. No I didn't post a blog, I don't have one. Stop trying to say you know who I am or that I can't be capped because I don't make enough. You are wrong. Stop saying where I live, including the city, as a way to say, I know who you are, because you are also wrong. But please keep saying that only upper level people are capped, it's good news for the rest of us who aren't. Reminder that when you criticize people for their work or levels, you are making fun of over half the people here, maybe 75%. But you're so vane you don't mind putting down all the new people and all of us not as wonderful as you.

Now you can go back to writing political hate messages and maybe keep busy with that. Or you can keep stalking me because you don't know what you are writing about and know nothing about who I am or my work. Please stop the obsession with my data or illustrations and video collection.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: Shelma1 on February 19, 2018, 20:20

Let me make this easy. No I didn't post a blog, I don't have one. Stop trying to say you know who I am or that I can't be capped because I don't make enough. You are wrong. Stop saying where I live, including the city, as a way to say, I know who you are, because you are also wrong. But please keep saying that only upper level people are capped, it's good news for the rest of us who aren't. Reminder that when you criticize people for their work or levels, you are making fun of over half the people here, maybe 75%. But you're so vane you don't mind putting down all the new people and all of us not as wonderful as you.

Now you can go back to writing political hate messages and maybe keep busy with that. Or you can keep stalking me because you don't know what you are writing about and know nothing about who I am or my work. Please stop the obsession with my data or illustrations and video collection.

I think you've officially lost it.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: BaldricksTrousers on February 20, 2018, 00:33

Let me make this easy. No I didn't post a blog, I don't have one. Stop trying to say you know who I am or that I can't be capped because I don't make enough. You are wrong. Stop saying where I live, including the city, as a way to say, I know who you are, because you are also wrong. But please keep saying that only upper level people are capped, it's good news for the rest of us who aren't. Reminder that when you criticize people for their work or levels, you are making fun of over half the people here, maybe 75%. But you're so vane you don't mind putting down all the new people and all of us not as wonderful as you.

Now you can go back to writing political hate messages and maybe keep busy with that. Or you can keep stalking me because you don't know what you are writing about and know nothing about who I am or my work. Please stop the obsession with my data or illustrations and video collection.

I think you've officially lost it.

No, a few moments with Agent Google reveal that she's from the US (it's easy enough to find the address). So you're probably mixing her up with someone else.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: YadaYadaYada on February 20, 2018, 10:48

Let me make this easy. No I didn't post a blog, I don't have one. Stop trying to say you know who I am or that I can't be capped because I don't make enough. You are wrong. Stop saying where I live, including the city, as a way to say, I know who you are, because you are also wrong. But please keep saying that only upper level people are capped, it's good news for the rest of us who aren't. Reminder that when you criticize people for their work or levels, you are making fun of over half the people here, maybe 75%. But you're so vane you don't mind putting down all the new people and all of us not as wonderful as you.

Now you can go back to writing political hate messages and maybe keep busy with that. Or you can keep stalking me because you don't know what you are writing about and know nothing about who I am or my work. Please stop the obsession with my data or illustrations and video collection.

I think you've officially lost it.

No, a few moments with Agent Google reveal that she's from the US (it's easy enough to find the address). So you're probably mixing her up with someone else.

Thanks, you're right. That should end that one. I've tired of the whole game anyway. Done with being followed and attacked because of my views.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: derek on February 20, 2018, 13:50

Let me make this easy. No I didn't post a blog, I don't have one. Stop trying to say you know who I am or that I can't be capped because I don't make enough. You are wrong. Stop saying where I live, including the city, as a way to say, I know who you are, because you are also wrong. But please keep saying that only upper level people are capped, it's good news for the rest of us who aren't. Reminder that when you criticize people for their work or levels, you are making fun of over half the people here, maybe 75%. But you're so vane you don't mind putting down all the new people and all of us not as wonderful as you.

Now you can go back to writing political hate messages and maybe keep busy with that. Or you can keep stalking me because you don't know what you are writing about and know nothing about who I am or my work. Please stop the obsession with my data or illustrations and video collection.

I think you've officially lost it.

No, a few moments with Agent Google reveal that she's from the US (it's easy enough to find the address). So you're probably mixing her up with someone else.

Thanks, you're right. That should end that one. I've tired of the whole game anyway. Done with being followed and attacked because of my views.

come, come now there's always a silver lining!! :D
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: Shelma1 on February 20, 2018, 13:59

Let me make this easy. No I didn't post a blog, I don't have one. Stop trying to say you know who I am or that I can't be capped because I don't make enough. You are wrong. Stop saying where I live, including the city, as a way to say, I know who you are, because you are also wrong. But please keep saying that only upper level people are capped, it's good news for the rest of us who aren't. Reminder that when you criticize people for their work or levels, you are making fun of over half the people here, maybe 75%. But you're so vane you don't mind putting down all the new people and all of us not as wonderful as you.

Now you can go back to writing political hate messages and maybe keep busy with that. Or you can keep stalking me because you don't know what you are writing about and know nothing about who I am or my work. Please stop the obsession with my data or illustrations and video collection.

I think you've officially lost it.

No, a few moments with Agent Google reveal that she's from the US (it's easy enough to find the address). So you're probably mixing her up with someone else.

I don't think anyone's questioning whether I'm from the U.S. I think it's pretty clear I am. ;)
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: Minsc on February 21, 2018, 02:45
There's a lost of misplaced anger on this tread. Maybe some of you need to cool down a bit? Maybe go outside instead of being continually affected by a non-stop wave of sensationalist political news?

The algorithm changes are affect all of us, not just veterans. They've gotten rid of the Relevant tab and they've completely changed the results of the popular tab. What's popular doesn't seem very popular... since the results show some very mediocre work and me as a buyer would not download most of it.

I don't see any cap. What I see is a company trying to maximize their profits by testing different algorithms. Trying to minimize sub downloads, but increase on demand downloads, and I don't think they're having an easy time balancing it since the revenue are split slightly in favor of subs, but otherwise nearly even. That's why there's been so many algorithm changes.

SS has really messed up recently and I don't like what they're doing. They're the one site that changes constantly for no good reason and their changes are bad for contributors and buyers.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: jonbull on February 21, 2018, 05:28
i had a photo of dubai hotel uploaded in december 2016, it sold for 345 times since end of january...then in february completely disappeared nowhere...i used to have at least one download every day of that image...it was like going to piss after waking up every morning:)...zero download in february of that image.
since they got rid of best match i'm lost. half earning compared to january. th new images don't sell the popular are buried.
good job shutter stock. this company i' bet my pants will fall down in less than 2 years.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: jonbull on February 21, 2018, 05:35
my suspect was true..searching the image i cannot find in the first 10 page...it was constant number one or two fro the most important hotel in dubai.
disappeared completely from day one to day two.
but they don't cap earning...ahah...nooo...
unbelievable the behaviorsr of this company. the day it will close door i will open a bottle of champagne.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: namussi on February 21, 2018, 05:44
my suspect was true..searching the image i cannot find in the first 10 page...it was constant number one or two fro the most important hotel in dubai.
disappeared completely from day one to day two.
but they don't cap earning...ahah...nooo...
unbelievable the behaviorsr of this company. the day it will close door i will open a bottle of champagne.

Why does what happened to your image mean there's a cap?

Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: jonbull on February 21, 2018, 06:00
my suspect was true..searching the image i cannot find in the first 10 page...it was constant number one or two fro the most important hotel in dubai.
disappeared completely from day one to day two.
but they don't cap earning...ahah...nooo...
unbelievable the behaviorsr of this company. the day it will close door i will open a bottle of champagne.

Why does what happened to your image mean there's a cap?

i already said why there is a cap....stock photography is not like bread price....when sale are a straight line for 2 years...is clear they control...why fotolia or stock have mountain graph and shutter a slight upward line?
one question you earn at least 1000 dollar in all your agency? if not please talk about other stuff..
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: namussi on February 21, 2018, 06:13
my suspect was true..searching the image i cannot find in the first 10 page...it was constant number one or two fro the most important hotel in dubai.
disappeared completely from day one to day two.
but they don't cap earning...ahah...nooo...
unbelievable the behaviorsr of this company. the day it will close door i will open a bottle of champagne.

Why does what happened to your image mean there's a cap?

i already said why there is a cap....stock photography is not like bread price....when sale are a straight line for 2 years...is clear they control...why fotolia or stock have mountain graph and shutter a slight upward line?
one question you earn at least 1000 dollar in all your agency? if not please talk about other stuff..

We'd love to see the graphs that prove there's a cap. Feel free to share.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: jonbull on February 21, 2018, 06:59
my suspect was true..searching the image i cannot find in the first 10 page...it was constant number one or two fro the most important hotel in dubai.
disappeared completely from day one to day two.
but they don't cap earning...ahah...nooo...
unbelievable the behaviorsr of this company. the day it will close door i will open a bottle of champagne.

Why does what happened to your image mean there's a cap?

i already said why there is a cap....stock photography is not like bread price....when sale are a straight line for 2 years...is clear they control...why fotolia or stock have mountain graph and shutter a slight upward line?
one question you earn at least 1000 dollar in all your agency? if not please talk about other stuff..

We'd love to see the graphs that prove there's a cap. Feel free to share.

u earn more than a 1000?
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: namussi on February 21, 2018, 07:04
my suspect was true..searching the image i cannot find in the first 10 page...it was constant number one or two fro the most important hotel in dubai.
disappeared completely from day one to day two.
but they don't cap earning...ahah...nooo...
unbelievable the behaviorsr of this company. the day it will close door i will open a bottle of champagne.

Why does what happened to your image mean there's a cap?

i already said why there is a cap....stock photography is not like bread price....when sale are a straight line for 2 years...is clear they control...why fotolia or stock have mountain graph and shutter a slight upward line?
one question you earn at least 1000 dollar in all your agency? if not please talk about other stuff..

We'd love to see the graphs that prove there's a cap. Feel free to share.

u earn more than a 1000?

Why?
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: Shelma1 on February 21, 2018, 07:12
Why not? You keep asking other people to share charts and earnings, but you're anonymous and refuse to answer a simple question about your earnings.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: namussi on February 21, 2018, 07:22
Why not? You keep asking other people to share charts and earnings, but you're anonymous and refuse to answer a simple question about your earnings.

I'm asking him to share with the forum, not just me. So the question isn't really relevant. It's just another excuse. Another distraction.

I just want people to show some evidence of a cap, and stop making excuses.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: jonbull on February 21, 2018, 07:32
Why not? You keep asking other people to share charts and earnings, but you're anonymous and refuse to answer a simple question about your earnings.

I'm asking him to share with the forum, not just me. So the question isn't really relevant. It's just another excuse. Another distraction.

I just want people to show some evidence of a cap, and stop making excuses.

i said by word how are my trend graph for three agency.
if i had evidence proof 100% I'm capped i will sue shutter stock in a pinch puppet, understand?
i told u my graph are straight for ss and they are like this only for ss..
i aseked u what is your level of earning from 100 to 400? 400 -1000? over 1000...i suspect you not even reach 50 dollar in ss but maybe i'm wrong.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: Shelma1 on February 21, 2018, 08:30
Why not? You keep asking other people to share charts and earnings, but you're anonymous and refuse to answer a simple question about your earnings.

I'm asking him to share with the forum, not just me. So the question isn't really relevant. It's just another excuse. Another distraction.

I just want people to show some evidence of a cap, and stop making excuses.

I'm asking you to share with the forum, not just me. You claim there's no cap, so show us your graphs and charts to prove it and answer the question. Have you made even $1,000 in microstock?
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: namussi on February 21, 2018, 08:59
Why not? You keep asking other people to share charts and earnings, but you're anonymous and refuse to answer a simple question about your earnings.

I'm asking him to share with the forum, not just me. So the question isn't really relevant. It's just another excuse. Another distraction.

I just want people to show some evidence of a cap, and stop making excuses.

I'm asking you to share with the forum, not just me. You claim there's no cap, so show us your graphs and charts to prove it and answer the question. Have you made even $1,000 in microstock?

You are saying there's a cap. I want to see evidence of this. I have no evidence either way.

Again, asking questions about how much I've earned is just another distraction, another evasion.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: Shelma1 on February 21, 2018, 09:08
Why not? You keep asking other people to share charts and earnings, but you're anonymous and refuse to answer a simple question about your earnings.

I'm asking him to share with the forum, not just me. So the question isn't really relevant. It's just another excuse. Another distraction.

I just want people to show some evidence of a cap, and stop making excuses.

I'm asking you to share with the forum, not just me. You claim there's no cap, so show us your graphs and charts to prove it and answer the question. Have you made even $1,000 in microstock?

You are saying there's a cap. I want to see evidence of this. I have no evidence either way.

Again, asking questions about how much I've earned is just another distraction, another evasion.

Have you made $1,000?
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: namussi on February 21, 2018, 09:26
Why not? You keep asking other people to share charts and earnings, but you're anonymous and refuse to answer a simple question about your earnings.

I'm asking him to share with the forum, not just me. So the question isn't really relevant. It's just another excuse. Another distraction.

I just want people to show some evidence of a cap, and stop making excuses.

I'm asking you to share with the forum, not just me. You claim there's no cap, so show us your graphs and charts to prove it and answer the question. Have you made even $1,000 in microstock?

You are saying there's a cap. I want to see evidence of this. I have no evidence either way.

Again, asking questions about how much I've earned is just another distraction, another evasion.

Have you made $1,000?

Another evasion. Another squirm.

You keep making the claim that there's a cap.

Stop the "mommy knows best" act, and show us the evidence.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: namussi on February 21, 2018, 09:30
Why not? You keep asking other people to share charts and earnings, but you're anonymous and refuse to answer a simple question about your earnings.

I'm asking him to share with the forum, not just me. So the question isn't really relevant. It's just another excuse. Another distraction.

I just want people to show some evidence of a cap, and stop making excuses.

i said by word how are my trend graph for three agency.
if i had evidence proof 100% I'm capped i will sue shutter stock in a pinch puppet, understand?
i told u my graph are straight for ss and they are like this only for ss..
i aseked u what is your level of earning from 100 to 400? 400 -1000? over 1000...i suspect you not even reach 50 dollar in ss but maybe i'm wrong.

They're vague descriptions. They are too vague to be considered evidence of a cap.

And suggesting that I may not have reached $50 makes you sound like a bully trying to avoid the point.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: Shelma1 on February 21, 2018, 09:34
Why not? You keep asking other people to share charts and earnings, but you're anonymous and refuse to answer a simple question about your earnings.

I'm asking him to share with the forum, not just me. So the question isn't really relevant. It's just another excuse. Another distraction.

I just want people to show some evidence of a cap, and stop making excuses.

i said by word how are my trend graph for three agency.
if i had evidence proof 100% I'm capped i will sue shutter stock in a pinch puppet, understand?
i told u my graph are straight for ss and they are like this only for ss..
i aseked u what is your level of earning from 100 to 400? 400 -1000? over 1000...i suspect you not even reach 50 dollar in ss but maybe i'm wrong.

They're vague descriptions. They are too vague to be considered evidence of a cap.

And suggesting that I may not have reached $50 makes you sound like a bully trying to avoid the point.

I see no evidence you've made $50. Pony up.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: Dodie on February 21, 2018, 10:47
Why not? You keep asking other people to share charts and earnings, but you're anonymous and refuse to answer a simple question about your earnings.

I'm asking him to share with the forum, not just me. So the question isn't really relevant. It's just another excuse. Another distraction.

I just want people to show some evidence of a cap, and stop making excuses.

i said by word how are my trend graph for three agency.
if i had evidence proof 100% I'm capped i will sue shutter stock in a pinch puppet, understand?
i told u my graph are straight for ss and they are like this only for ss..
i aseked u what is your level of earning from 100 to 400? 400 -1000? over 1000...i suspect you not even reach 50 dollar in ss but maybe i'm wrong.

They're vague descriptions. They are too vague to be considered evidence of a cap.

And suggesting that I may not have reached $50 makes you sound like a bully trying to avoid the point.


@namussi,
Why are you so aggressive? You are the one that is acting like a bully. Why should anyone share their charts just because you say so?

Many people are talking about some plausible, indirect evidence (not proof) that earnings are limited in some way, are they all crazy?
You are free to have any other opinion but don't bully people who think otherwise. This discussion is as old as stock itself and nobody has the right answer yet.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: Shelma1 on February 21, 2018, 10:52
Why not? You keep asking other people to share charts and earnings, but you're anonymous and refuse to answer a simple question about your earnings.

I'm asking him to share with the forum, not just me. So the question isn't really relevant. It's just another excuse. Another distraction.

I just want people to show some evidence of a cap, and stop making excuses.

i said by word how are my trend graph for three agency.
if i had evidence proof 100% I'm capped i will sue shutter stock in a pinch puppet, understand?
i told u my graph are straight for ss and they are like this only for ss..
i aseked u what is your level of earning from 100 to 400? 400 -1000? over 1000...i suspect you not even reach 50 dollar in ss but maybe i'm wrong.

They're vague descriptions. They are too vague to be considered evidence of a cap.

And suggesting that I may not have reached $50 makes you sound like a bully trying to avoid the point.


Why are you so aggressive? You are the one that is acting like a bully. Why should anyone share their charts just because you say so?

Many people are talking about some plausible, indirect evidence (not proof) that earnings are limited in some way, are they all crazy?
You are free to have any other opinion but don't bully people who think otherwise. This discussion is as old as stock itself and nobody has the right answer yet.

I'm not sure who you're addressing here. Namussi is the one who insists people share their earnings and charts. Are you talking to him?
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: Dodie on February 21, 2018, 11:00
I'm not sure who you're addressing here. Namussi is the one who insists people share their earnings and charts. Are you talking to him?

I am sorry Shelma, my reply was for Namussi.
I wanted to shorten all these quotes and I deleted the wrong part, I fixed it now, sorry.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: Shelma1 on February 21, 2018, 11:04
I'm not sure who you're addressing here. Namussi is the one who insists people share their earnings and charts. Are you talking to him?

I am sorry Shelma, my reply was for Namussi.
I wanted to shorten all these quotes and I deleted the wrong part, I fixed it now, sorry.

No problem...that's what I figured. :)
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: YadaYadaYada on February 21, 2018, 11:23

Let me make this easy. No I didn't post a blog, I don't have one. Stop trying to say you know who I am or that I can't be capped because I don't make enough. You are wrong. Stop saying where I live, including the city, as a way to say, I know who you are, because you are also wrong. But please keep saying that only upper level people are capped, it's good news for the rest of us who aren't. Reminder that when you criticize people for their work or levels, you are making fun of over half the people here, maybe 75%. But you're so vane you don't mind putting down all the new people and all of us not as wonderful as you.

Now you can go back to writing political hate messages and maybe keep busy with that. Or you can keep stalking me because you don't know what you are writing about and know nothing about who I am or my work. Please stop the obsession with my data or illustrations and video collection.

I think you've officially lost it.

No, a few moments with Agent Google reveal that she's from the US (it's easy enough to find the address). So you're probably mixing her up with someone else.

I don't think anyone's questioning whether I'm from the U.S. I think it's pretty clear I am. ;)

I think he might have been talking about me, this is going nowhere, you won't reply to a direct question like why are you writing lies about me, or why are you stalking me, finding me, looking for me on SS? I already told you I'm not in Canada or whatever city you say I am and I never posted a link to a blog, but you keep repeating those lies. The End
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: increasingdifficulty on February 21, 2018, 11:33
I think he might have been talking about me, this is going nowhere, you won't reply to a direct question like why are you writing lies about me, or why are you stalking me, finding me, looking for me on SS? I already told you I'm not in Canada or whatever city you say I am and I never posted a link to a blog, but you keep repeating those lies. The End

She just checked your post history here, and grabbed one of the first links she saw from one of your first posts. Of course, she didn't do much further research and missed that soon after, you posted that it wasn't your blog that you linked to.

And that's what she has based all of this misinformation on.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: YadaYadaYada on February 21, 2018, 11:50
I think he might have been talking about me, this is going nowhere, you won't reply to a direct question like why are you writing lies about me, or why are you stalking me, finding me, looking for me on SS? I already told you I'm not in Canada or whatever city you say I am and I never posted a link to a blog, but you keep repeating those lies. The End

She just checked your post history here, and grabbed the first link she saw from one of your first posts. Of course, she didn't do much further research and missed that soon after, you posted that it wasn't your blog that you linked to.

And that's what she has based all of this misinformation on.

LOL I should have looked for that. Very funny. Any way I'm done, I've had enough personal attacks and verbal abuse for now. Eh? Maybe some new issue and another day.  :) Must make some more toonie's for some fresh runners, mine are getting worn out.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: derek on February 21, 2018, 12:31
hahaha!  and I thought the Forum housed some cretins years back!! its a miracle Tyler havent just closed this imbecile thread. Majority here are what? weekend snapping ghost-busters trying to bust some people claiming there is a cap, so what? what if there is? the people claiming there is a cap are probably full-time photographers and the ghost-busters nothing but weekend snappers, editorial shooters with instamatics around there necks!...hahaha! what a joke!
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: angelawaye on February 21, 2018, 16:57
Namussi keeps wanting us to "show us the graphs". Why doesn't he share his? Did he post his?
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: JimP on February 21, 2018, 18:09
hahaha!  and I thought the Forum housed some cretins years back!! its a miracle Tyler havent just closed this imbecile thread. Majority here are what? weekend snapping ghost-busters trying to bust some people claiming there is a cap, so what? what if there is? the people claiming there is a cap are probably full-time photographers and the ghost-busters nothing but weekend snappers, editorial shooters with instamatics around there necks!...hahaha! what a joke!

As usual you will move to have any thread closed by nuclear devices. Why are people claiming a cap probably full-time and others nothing but weekend snappers. How insulting and stereotyping of you. I thought we were against that kind of thing here? Calling people cretins coming from you is a better joke. Have any more names to call the rest of us in your desire to win the argument. The whole term of capping is some moving target that you keep changing if anybody tries to pin down what you mean. Not only is capping not income drops or the search changing or anything else, it's purely subjective. If I'm capped will I get better sales to make up for a slow month, or is the cap only negative because I made such good sales that I'm to be cut off? None of this makes sense and you changing what it is and calling people nasty names isn't facts about caps, is it?

Namussi keeps wanting us to "show us the graphs". Why doesn't he share his? Did he post his?

Good question.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: namussi on February 21, 2018, 19:14

Namussi keeps wanting us to "show us the graphs". Why doesn't he share his? Did he post his?

Good question.

Because it's irrelevant. I"m not the one claiming there is a cap. I'm saying that the people who claim there is cap need to show some evidence for it that's stronger than the vague claims they make.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: namussi on February 21, 2018, 19:16
hahaha!  and I thought the Forum housed some cretins years back!! its a miracle Tyler havent just closed this imbecile thread. Majority here are what? weekend snapping ghost-busters trying to bust some people claiming there is a cap, so what? what if there is? the people claiming there is a cap are probably full-time photographers and the ghost-busters nothing but weekend snappers, editorial shooters with instamatics around there necks!...hahaha! what a joke!

Insults are not evidence of a cap.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: namussi on February 21, 2018, 19:26
Namussi keeps wanting us to "show us the graphs". Why doesn't he share his? Did he post his?

Firstly, it's irrelevant.

Secondly, the cap theorists keep telling me that my experience of selling stock is too limited for me to suffer a cap.

So there's no point posting them, is there?
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: namussi on February 21, 2018, 19:35

@namussi,
Why are you so aggressive? You are the one that is acting like a bully. Why should anyone share their charts just because you say so?

Many people are talking about some plausible, indirect evidence (not proof) that earnings are limited in some way, are they all crazy?
You are free to have any other opinion but don't bully people who think otherwise. This discussion is as old as stock itself and nobody has the right answer yet.

Partly because I'm fed up with being bullied and patronised and insulted by the cap theorists over the past year or so.

I don't think I'm acting like a bully. I'm just calmly asking the same question repeatedly.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: JimP on March 02, 2018, 10:51
Namussi keeps wanting us to "show us the graphs". Why doesn't he share his? Did he post his?

Firstly, it's irrelevant.

Secondly, the cap theorists keep telling me that my experience of selling stock is too limited for me to suffer a cap.

So there's no point posting them, is there?

Belief in witchcraft, magic or capping presents a framework to explain the occurrence of otherwise random misfortunes such as sickness and unexplained events or lower sales in microstock, and the witch sorcerer, stock agency, provides an image of evil.

Finally an answer, sale or income capping is witchcraft. We've already had the hangings and burnings without any proof, evidence or a trial.

No there's no point in posting here, you'll be stoned or burned at the stake for not following the mass hysteria that sees ghosts, witches or evil agency tricks to cheat us. I wonder how we know they are reporting all sales? No one has ever answered that. We could be robbed by unreported or under reported sales.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: Semmick Photo on March 02, 2018, 11:16
If there ever was a cretin on this forum, and elsewhere, it must be Lagereek. Most banned photographer ever. I can't believe Tyler is letting him on here again, calling people names, calling Germans nazi's, calling out amateur photographers etc. up to his old tricks. I guess a schizo never changes, pun intended.

Don't worry, I'll let myself out.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: Pauws99 on March 02, 2018, 12:51
If there ever was a cretin on this forum, and elsewhere, it must be Lagereek. Most banned photographer ever. I can't believe Tyler is letting him on here again, calling people names, calling Germans nazi's, calling out amateur photographers etc. up to his old tricks. I guess a schizo never changes, pun intended.

Don't worry, I'll let myself out.
Simple really anyone with any nous knows what its about....better to keep him there rather than constantly playing detective....though not like hes hard to spot ;-)
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: derek on March 02, 2018, 12:58
Its the CAPS!!...come on people dont be so despondent!  cheer up theres always a silver lining. tsk, tsk! :D
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: JimP on March 03, 2018, 20:27
If there ever was a cretin on this forum, and elsewhere, it must be Lagereek. Most banned photographer ever. I can't believe Tyler is letting him on here again, calling people names, calling Germans nazi's, calling out amateur photographers etc. up to his old tricks. I guess a schizo never changes, pun intended.

Don't worry, I'll let myself out.

Hold the door, I'm right behind you. Forum has been taken over by hate, anger and personal attacks on anyone who doesn't go along with the witch hunts or doesn't blame some invisible conspiracy for a business that's unsustainable.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: helloitsme on March 03, 2018, 21:19
Wow!  This topic has gone viral, yet nobody "like"d my original post.  Nice!
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: Sammy the Cat on March 04, 2018, 03:25
If there ever was a cretin on this forum, and elsewhere, it must be Lagereek. Most banned photographer ever. I can't believe Tyler is letting him on here again, calling people names, calling Germans nazi's, calling out amateur photographers etc. up to his old tricks. I guess a schizo never changes, pun intended.

Don't worry, I'll let myself out.

Hold the door, I'm right behind you. Forum has been taken over by hate, anger and personal attacks on anyone who doesn't go along with the witch hunts or doesn't blame some invisible conspiracy for a business that's unsustainable.

Lets all gather round the camp fire and sing "Kumbaya. ... "  ;D
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: derek on March 04, 2018, 07:36
Funny people here!  they act as if they are going to be missed!! waffling all over the internet and wrecking forums and then when the going gets tough they split! only this whole thread is just abut peoples opinions, some are doing well others are not??  whats the big deal???  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: derek on March 04, 2018, 07:39
wrong thread.
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: namussi on March 04, 2018, 19:07
If there ever was a cretin on this forum, and elsewhere, it must be Lagereek. Most banned photographer ever. I can't believe Tyler is letting him on here again, calling people names, calling Germans nazi's, calling out amateur photographers etc. up to his old tricks. I guess a schizo never changes, pun intended.

Don't worry, I'll let myself out.

Hold the door, I'm right behind you. Forum has been taken over by hate, anger and personal attacks on anyone who doesn't go along with the witch hunts or doesn't blame some invisible conspiracy for a business that's unsustainable.

Lets all gather round the camp fire and sing "Kumbaya. ... "  ;D


Now there's an idea for a stock photo .... :-)
Title: Re: Very slow sales today. Must be the economy coming down.
Post by: Tyson Anderson on March 04, 2018, 20:18
Today??  Too much stat checking...not enough shooting, processing, and uploading!  Temporary glitch or not, if you see no sales, get to work and quite wasting time talking about it here.