Post by: asmai on April 29, 2018, 14:40
Post by: HalfFull on April 29, 2018, 16:26
In the last week i got 2 video sales (clip pack) for $1.50 each. Anyone got this or knows what is going on?
I've had 4 in the last 10 days. Not amused and I've a case with SS as they've been told I'm removing all footage if no opt-out appears or, confirmation the client only gets the smallest of small sizes. They've asked me to stop deleting files and wait as they deal with the matter.
Basically, it's a new package for clients buying high volume of content but with strict limitations. My concerns are that a) They can't enforce the limitations and b) the client receives full resolution and we just have to trust them.
I strongly suggest you make your voice heard, on the forum and in writing via email.
Post by: jjneff on April 29, 2018, 17:58
Post by: RAW on April 29, 2018, 22:25
Post by: HalfFull on April 30, 2018, 00:00
What are the 'limitations' ?
They haven’t said.... they’ve been all words no substance. I’m waiting on a reply from them again. I’ve had a few emails with them so far. It seems like the right time to kick up a fuss before it becomes a regular package!!!
Post by: dpimborough on April 30, 2018, 02:29
Post by: HalfFull on April 30, 2018, 02:45
Post by: Stockmaan on May 26, 2018, 11:57
Post by: Dumc on May 26, 2018, 14:27
Post by: NeonRobot on May 27, 2018, 03:47
If thats how they want to play it then best not to upload any video to them at all.
Predicting that in a couple of years footage will bring to contributor same about of money as photos for now.
Post by: unnonimus on May 27, 2018, 14:44
the prices dropped, and they will continue to do so. now you can get videos for $5 and photos for 50 cents or less.
every time a new photo or video is uploaded, leading to an increase in supply, the end result will be a decrease in pricing unless there is a matching increase in demand.
prices will fluctuate upwards if a company drops SD/NTSC, HD, etc, but that is only going to happen once per company, it could be in the distant future. if a company suddenly decides to dorp all of its HD content, the overall price in the market for videos will go up. but a company can only do this once.
it is like yuri says. if you don't like falling prices, you shouldn't be in the business (his words not mine).
Post by: RAW on May 31, 2018, 09:00
I sent an email protesting no opt outs - no response as yet.
I see they are even offering a further Coupon Discount at checkout! ! !
What to do? Shutterstock is an earner for me but THIS SUCKS
Post by: pkphotos on May 31, 2018, 09:56
back in the 1990's, a video cost about $250 or more. photos cost $100.You make complete sense. It's time for 95% of us to move onwards and upwards to better things outside of the stock game. I blame the contributors who can't help themselves by posting about their sales and success, thereby encouraging the competition that will force many of them out.
the prices dropped, and they will continue to do so. now you can get videos for $5 and photos for 50 cents or less.
every time a new photo or video is uploaded, leading to an increase in supply, the end result will be a decrease in pricing unless there is a matching increase in demand.
prices will fluctuate upwards if a company drops SD/NTSC, HD, etc, but that is only going to happen once per company, it could be in the distant future. if a company suddenly decides to dorp all of its HD content, the overall price in the market for videos will go up. but a company can only do this once.
it is like yuri says. if you don't like falling prices, you shouldn't be in the business (his words not mine).
Post by: rod-09 on June 11, 2018, 03:34
Post by: Pauws99 on June 11, 2018, 06:50
I blame any contributor other than me that submits.back in the 1990's, a video cost about $250 or more. photos cost $100.You make complete sense. It's time for 95% of us to move onwards and upwards to better things outside of the stock game. I blame the contributors who can't help themselves by posting about their sales and success, thereby encouraging the competition that will force many of them out.
the prices dropped, and they will continue to do so. now you can get videos for $5 and photos for 50 cents or less.
every time a new photo or video is uploaded, leading to an increase in supply, the end result will be a decrease in pricing unless there is a matching increase in demand.
prices will fluctuate upwards if a company drops SD/NTSC, HD, etc, but that is only going to happen once per company, it could be in the distant future. if a company suddenly decides to dorp all of its HD content, the overall price in the market for videos will go up. but a company can only do this once.
it is like yuri says. if you don't like falling prices, you shouldn't be in the business (his words not mine).
Post by: BalkanskiMacak on June 11, 2018, 07:11
back in the 1990's, a video cost about $250 or more. photos cost $100.You make complete sense. It's time for 95% of us to move onwards and upwards to better things outside of the stock game. I blame the contributors who can't help themselves by posting about their sales and success, thereby encouraging the competition that will force many of them out.
the prices dropped, and they will continue to do so. now you can get videos for $5 and photos for 50 cents or less.
every time a new photo or video is uploaded, leading to an increase in supply, the end result will be a decrease in pricing unless there is a matching increase in demand.
prices will fluctuate upwards if a company drops SD/NTSC, HD, etc, but that is only going to happen once per company, it could be in the distant future. if a company suddenly decides to dorp all of its HD content, the overall price in the market for videos will go up. but a company can only do this once.
it is like yuri says. if you don't like falling prices, you shouldn't be in the business (his words not mine).
So... are you saying that we shouldn't let anybody know when we're satisfied by our results?
Well, too bad for you, but I think there is definitely still room for more people, if you manage your business properly. When I calculate the revenue generated per hour of work, it's still something definitely profitable, even if less than other works from my clients.
So, yes, news like this 1.50 sales are preoccupying, but there's no reason to blame people who are satisfied of their results.
Post by: Pauws99 on June 11, 2018, 07:34
Post by: arapix on June 11, 2018, 13:19
Should I send complain to SS or what?
Also there is no footage with this low price at SS website!
Post by: wolfurius on July 02, 2018, 15:50
Post by: Microstockphoto on July 02, 2018, 16:01
appples and pears
Post by: rinderart on July 02, 2018, 23:39
back in the 1990's, a video cost about $250 or more. photos cost $100.
the prices dropped, and they will continue to do so. now you can get videos for $5 and photos for 50 cents or less.
every time a new photo or video is uploaded, leading to an increase in supply, the end result will be a decrease in pricing unless there is a matching increase in demand.
prices will fluctuate upwards if a company drops SD/NTSC, HD, etc, but that is only going to happen once per company, it could be in the distant future. if a company suddenly decides to dorp all of its HD content, the overall price in the market for videos will go up. but a company can only do this once.
it is like yuri says. if you don't like falling prices, you shouldn't be in the business (his words not mine).
I started selling stock and sold my first Pic in 1968. our commission was $400. Thats about $2600 in todays money.It was a cover for Arizona Highways.And yes, I've been around the Block and.....In Most of the Alleys.
Post by: Microstockphoto on July 03, 2018, 04:03
smoking was considered cool once and a pack of cigarettes cost 25 cent, nowadays it cost 6-8 dollars
times are changing
Post by: wolfurius on July 03, 2018, 05:00
Thank you for contacting Shutterstock Contributor Care.
Over the past few years, video has become an increasingly powerful tool for online advertising. To meet this growing demand, we are offering footage clips to select online platforms for limited use at special rates.
While at times you may see that your earnings-per-clip is lower, these clips are for web or mobile application only. They can only be streamed; downloading and broadcast usage isn't permitted. This restriction has been designed to protect your earnings and give you an extra chance to make money.
We hope this information helps, if you have any more questions, please feel free to reply back to this email and we will be happy to assist you!
Thanks,
Gauri
Shutterstock Contributor Care Team
Post by: namussi on July 04, 2018, 01:45
I received an answer from shutterstock:
Thank you for contacting Shutterstock Contributor Care.
Over the past few years, video has become an increasingly powerful tool for online advertising. To meet this growing demand, we are offering footage clips to select online platforms for limited use at special rates.
While at times you may see that your earnings-per-clip is lower, these clips are for web or mobile application only. They can only be streamed; downloading and broadcast usage isn't permitted. This restriction has been designed to protect your earnings and give you an extra chance to make money.
We hope this information helps, if you have any more questions, please feel free to reply back to this email and we will be happy to assist you!
Thanks,
Gauri
Shutterstock Contributor Care Team
So that's possibly extra income. Good news.
Post by: Video-StockOrg on July 04, 2018, 02:00
Post by: namussi on July 04, 2018, 03:33
Soon they'll be paying us with Exposure.
If stock photography/video isn't making you money, and isn't making you happy, perhaps it's time to do something else.
Post by: Video-StockOrg on July 04, 2018, 06:06
In b2b video production industry, I just don't do works that are underpaid. While still have chances to change clients mind why my service costs more than some newbies. If they don't understand, I'm not at much loss, because I didn't need to waste my time and resources to make anything.
I like shooting videos, but I've overgrown this Exposure crap that everywhere is common. Exposure doesn't pay bills. #fact
Post by: pfiverzv on August 02, 2018, 02:08
I read this post in April, when it started, and I could't believe that a footage can be sold by 5 USD (1.5 dollars contributor's share). And then it started: May, 1 video sold on my account at 1.5 usd, June 4 videos, July 6 videos. The number is growing, month by month, I send them an email about this, their answer was: "we fully understand and respect your decisions related to your portfolio and content. There is no option to opt-out of this license use. These clips are for web or mobile application only, they can only be streamed, not downloaded".
So, I and you all will keep selling videos for almost nothing, without any right to choose if we want it or not ! This is the conclusion
Post by: Video-StockOrg on August 02, 2018, 02:49
Post by: RAW on August 02, 2018, 08:32
. . . these clips are for web or mobile application only. They can only be streamed; downloading and broadcast usage isn't permitted. This restriction has been designed to protect your earnings and give you an extra chance to make money.
Thanks,
Gauri
Shutterstock Contributor Care Team
This is not true. Anyone can right mouse click on the website and download the master file. The videos are not protected.
See this:
https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/93927-150-video-sale/
Post by: travelstock on August 02, 2018, 21:14
. . . these clips are for web or mobile application only. They can only be streamed; downloading and broadcast usage isn't permitted. This restriction has been designed to protect your earnings and give you an extra chance to make money.
Thanks,
Gauri
Shutterstock Contributor Care Team
This is not true. Anyone can right mouse click on the website and download the master file. The videos are not protected.
See this:
https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/93927-150-video-sale/
The downloading is beside the point - how else have our clips been used in the past, other than for people to watch them? Streaming is just another technology for broadcast via the internet. A stream can reach millions of people - probably much more than broadcast, why should that technology get different rates?
Post by: SpaceStockFootage on August 03, 2018, 04:59
. . . these clips are for web or mobile application only. They can only be streamed; downloading and broadcast usage isn't permitted. This restriction has been designed to protect your earnings and give you an extra chance to make money.
Thanks,
Gauri
Shutterstock Contributor Care Team
This is not true. Anyone can right mouse click on the website and download the master file. The videos are not protected.
See this:
https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/93927-150-video-sale/
Yeah but what people can do, and what people are allowed to do, are two very different things.
Post by: gnirtS on August 03, 2018, 05:33
Im getting the same number roughly of video sales as usual but the last few months instead of the usual commission from them im getting $1.50
Conclusion is that people who would previously have paid a normal price are now getting the $5 extra special offer package instead.
So from my point of view this this isn't "extra revenue" as SS claim, its my existing revenue being cut as they're selling my work at a cheaper price than was previously available.
Then again, since they changed search in May meaning if a buyer clicks on "HD" it excludes EVERY 4k video from the search results (even though they can be downloaded in HD).
Post by: KB on August 03, 2018, 22:26
Then again, since they changed search in May meaning if a buyer clicks on "HD" it excludes EVERY 4k video from the search results (even though they can be downloaded in HD).OT, but isn't that the way it's always worked? I remember complaining about that 4 years ago, when I first started UL'ing 4K clips.
Back on topic, July was my lowest RPD in years, due to several lower than normal clip prices (including at least one $1.50 sale).
Post by: cobalt on August 04, 2018, 01:50
But overall I had a very good month with video on SS.
Post by: gnirtS on August 04, 2018, 04:20
Got my first 1,5 sale. Not happy.
But overall I had a very good month with video on SS.
They altered the behaviour years ago to fix it.
Then it broke in May and remains unfixed. Support is claiming its not deliberate and engineers are aware of the fault although i don't believe them.
The end result is its not worth uploading 4k as itll get hidden from buyers wanting HD and HD makes up 90%+ of sales.
Post by: RAW on August 04, 2018, 12:01
. . . these clips are for web or mobile application only. They can only be streamed; downloading and broadcast usage isn't permitted. This restriction has been designed to protect your earnings and give you an extra chance to make money.
Thanks,
Gauri
Shutterstock Contributor Care Team
This is not true. Anyone can right mouse click on the website and download the master file. The videos are not protected.
See this:
https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/93927-150-video-sale/
The downloading is beside the point - how else have our clips been used in the past, other than for people to watch them? Streaming is just another technology for broadcast via the internet. A stream can reach millions of people - probably much more than broadcast, why should that technology get different rates?
The downloading is not 'beside the point'. People can download the master file WITHOUT PAYING FOR IT!
Post by: jjneff on August 05, 2018, 07:15
I am building a new Stock Video website, I would like to use your clips so you can have some major exposure. I will be paying you $10 a month! You get money and exposure all I ask is for your video library. This is a special offer I only give to select agencies. I will only allow people to download the clips but not stream them as to protect your business! So glad you are excited as I am over this offer! See you at the food stamp line :-)
Post by: Stephan on August 15, 2018, 04:02
Post by: gnirtS on August 15, 2018, 05:28
Yesterday I had first 0.03$ video sale...
If that's true i'd message support on their forum or email. Mistakes like that do happen and have been corrected before now.
Post by: fmarsicano on August 16, 2018, 17:22
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Post by: nobody on August 16, 2018, 20:05
Post by: jjneff on August 16, 2018, 20:07
Post by: Video-StockOrg on August 17, 2018, 00:24
Post by: travelstock on August 17, 2018, 08:10
I think in August we are already at the point where we sold more $1.50 than regular video sales. GG SS.
Same here, August so far on Shutterstock is looking dismal. Have gone from very consistent sales to 50% below the worst month in the last 3 years. The last time sales were this low my portfolio there was only 1/20 its current size.
Post by: fmarsicano on August 17, 2018, 16:43
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Post by: Dumc on August 18, 2018, 08:34
today I sold 14 times the same video for 1.50$ I deleted it and will delete all the files I sell at 1.50 and soon delete them all last month I lost 40% of my normal income this is crazy
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Thats like 21$. Normal price for a video sale.
Post by: Mantis on August 18, 2018, 09:08
I think in August we are already at the point where we sold more $1.50 than regular video sales. GG SS.
Same here, August so far on Shutterstock is looking dismal. Have gone from very consistent sales to 50% below the worst month in the last 3 years. The last time sales were this low my portfolio there was only 1/20 its current size.
I am going to have my 4th month in a row $200-$300 less than my norm. Something happened to the search. This was over night. On the bright side my tax obligation is going to be much less this year:)
Post by: nobody on August 18, 2018, 09:14
Yesterday I had first 0.03$ video sale...
Yep, on iStock. I stopped uploading videos there a while back :(
Post by: fmarsicano on August 19, 2018, 04:10
yes for one video sale not 14 are you joking or are you out of your mind please tell me and I will try to understand what are you sayingtoday I sold 14 times the same video for 1.50$ I deleted it and will delete all the files I sell at 1.50 and soon delete them all last month I lost 40% of my normal income this is crazy
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Thats like 21$. Normal price for a video sale.
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Post by: Dumc on August 19, 2018, 08:20
yes for one video sale not 14 are you joking or are you out of your mind please tell me and I will try to understand what are you sayingtoday I sold 14 times the same video for 1.50$ I deleted it and will delete all the files I sell at 1.50 and soon delete them all last month I lost 40% of my normal income this is crazy
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Thats like 21$. Normal price for a video sale.
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Understand this: 1,5$ video sale wasn' really a video sale, it was video streaming.
Post by: RAW on August 19, 2018, 09:24
Anyone can download your master file without paying for it!
See this:
https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/93927-150-video-sale/
Post by: Dumc on August 19, 2018, 13:08
Post by: trek on August 19, 2018, 13:16
yes for one video sale not 14 are you joking or are you out of your mind please tell me and I will try to understand what are you sayingtoday I sold 14 times the same video for 1.50$ I deleted it and will delete all the files I sell at 1.50 and soon delete them all last month I lost 40% of my normal income this is crazy
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Thats like 21$. Normal price for a video sale.
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Understand this: 1,5$ video sale wasn' really a video sale, it was video streaming.
Shutterstock should do a better job of communicating the pricing and terms of these streaming licenses... and offer an opt out.
Post by: RAW on August 19, 2018, 14:37
Yeah, I know, thats doesn't change the fact, that he was paid for streaming. Now, if videos can bi stolen or not, that's different topic.
Yes, we need an 'opt out' but to me it does not matter if the file is streamed or not. The most important thing is the security of the site. Anyone can download your master file without paying for it. This may explain the sudden drop in Shutterstock sales the last couple of months.
Post by: rinderart on August 19, 2018, 16:16
Soon they'll be paying us with Exposure.
Agree, Biggest problem. the newbs will Line up to submit...and they know it.
Post by: nobody on August 19, 2018, 18:45
Soon they'll be paying us with Exposure.
Agree, Biggest problem. the newbs will Line up to submit...and they know it.
At first we were farmed out in vectors/images now videos. Some would take $.25 for a video...
Post by: LouisPhotos on August 28, 2018, 06:39
Over the past few years, video has become an increasingly powerful tool for online advertising. To meet this growing demand, we are offering footage clips to select online platforms for limited use at special rates.
While at times you may see that your earnings-per-clip is lower, these clips are for web or mobile application only. They can only be streamed; downloading and broadcast usage isn't permitted. This restriction has been designed to protect your earnings and give you an extra chance to make money.
Post by: gnirtS on August 28, 2018, 07:49
(i) companies will buy this INSTEAD of a normal price one (so less money) and
(ii) due to their buggy code ANYONE can download the full video by just getting the link from the source it gives.
Post by: angelawaye on August 28, 2018, 16:17
Post by: cobalt on August 28, 2018, 18:06
There are only 8 million stock videos at the moment, why kill the market before it even has matured?
I have to admit though, that this is maybe SS answer to pond5ś membership program, where customers can buy files as subs ultracheap. Nobody knows how many downloads you get, because they pay out a fixed sum.
On Getty there is the premium access license where photos go for 2 cents and videos for 60 cents (contributor returns).
Maybe SS was forced to offer a competing license.
But I just hate it...
Post by: alexandersr on September 02, 2018, 12:35
Spend the money.:)
Post by: CDPiC on September 03, 2018, 04:34
Post by: lostintimeline on September 03, 2018, 18:38
iStock is worse: i have one video for 0.82$ thats just looolspend the money too....on gums :-*
Post by: rinderart on September 04, 2018, 00:10
Soon they'll be paying us with Exposure.
Agree, Biggest problem. the newbs will Line up to submit...and they know it.
At first we were farmed out in vectors/images now videos. Some would take $.25 for a video...
or Less. I predict less. when Micro started . everyone got 20 Cents. I wrote 10 Years ago. that 20 cents will be the norm for everyone again...sooner than later.Why? because they Know every Newbie will go for it. Just like they did when this started. difference was. we fought for everything. No one fights anymore . They just Post BS chatroom Crap.
Post by: alexandersr on September 04, 2018, 10:10
In the last week i got 2 video sales (clip pack) for $1.50 each. Anyone got this or knows what is going on?
Could you show us your videos sold for $1.5?
Post by: Stephan on September 23, 2018, 05:13
I can't say that number of sales is growing, there are just more 1.5$ ones. >:(
Post by: ShadySue on September 23, 2018, 05:23
Why? The discount is per customer, not applied to certain content.In the last week i got 2 video sales (clip pack) for $1.50 each. Anyone got this or knows what is going on?
Could you show us your videos sold for $1.5?
Post by: nobody on September 23, 2018, 08:18
Soon they'll be paying us with Exposure.
Agree, Biggest problem. the newbs will Line up to submit...and they know it.
At first we were farmed out in vectors/images now videos. Some would take $.25 for a video...
or Less. I predict less. when Micro started . everyone got 20 Cents. I wrote 10 Years ago. that 20 cents will be the norm for everyone again...sooner than later.Why? because they Know every Newbie will go for it. Just like they did when this started. difference was. we fought for everything. No one fights anymore . They just Post BS chatroom Crap.
No, they keep uploading images and videos basically for 'Free' than they complain :-[
Post by: skysense on September 27, 2018, 11:32
It is a nice drone shot of Italian vineyards and an old city on the top of the hill, in 4K... crazy... Wrote to SS right away, will see what kind of reply do i get.
https://www.shutterstock.com/video/clip-34596598 (https://www.shutterstock.com/video/clip-34596598)
Post by: skysense on October 17, 2018, 16:57
Post by: nobody on October 17, 2018, 17:44
Post by: obj owl on October 17, 2018, 17:44
Just had first sale at 1.50$.
It is a nice drone shot of Italian vineyards and an old city on the top of the hill, in 4K... crazy... Wrote to SS right away, will see what kind of reply do i get.
https://www.shutterstock.com/video/clip-34596598 (https://www.shutterstock.com/video/clip-34596598)
Maybe, if all video contributors had written to SS when this thread was started on the 29th of April, it didn't need to come to the point were it affected you too.
Post by: skysense on October 18, 2018, 00:55
Just had first sale at 1.50$.
It is a nice drone shot of Italian vineyards and an old city on the top of the hill, in 4K... crazy... Wrote to SS right away, will see what kind of reply do i get.
https://www.shutterstock.com/video/clip-34596598 (https://www.shutterstock.com/video/clip-34596598)
Maybe, if all video contributors had written to SS when this thread was started on the 29th of April, it didn't need to come to the point were it affected you too.
Maybe, but i don't think they'd listen. I wrote to them complaining, and asking to opt me out of any crappy program. They said i am not in any kind of program, and that those are just regular clip pack sales. We changed like 4-5 emails, with me pushing, and them giving me just this SS crap all the time.
Post by: Video-StockOrg on May 03, 2019, 01:38
>:(
Post by: dpimborough on May 03, 2019, 03:41
Post by: Ozone on May 03, 2019, 05:05
2x3,00$
1x1,50$
Total: 7,50$ :(
Post by: Ronib on May 13, 2019, 11:39
. . . these clips are for web or mobile application only. They can only be streamed; downloading and broadcast usage isn't permitted. This restriction has been designed to protect your earnings and give you an extra chance to make money.
Thanks,
Gauri
Shutterstock Contributor Care Team
This is not true. Anyone can right mouse click on the website and download the master file. The videos are not protected.
See this:
https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/93927-150-video-sale/
