I, too, am banned and I have never had any interaction with him at all. I wonder if it's a Jon Oringer incognito account?

Quote from: cathyslife on July 19, 2020, 12:49
I, too, am banned and I have never had any interaction with him at all. I wonder if it's a Jon Oringer incognito account?

Incognito secret accounts, black opps. As seen on TV https://youtu.be/sRWtFVFSx5I

Quote from: Shelma1 on July 19, 2020, 10:16
I'm also banned, I guess because I pointed out that he gets barely any sales. Easy enough to see his Twitter account, though, where he spends a lot of time retweeting Jo Ann, so I thank him for that, though he only has 14 followers so he's not helping us spread the message all that much. I feel sorry for the guy.

Very sorry.

Quote from: Rage on July 19, 2020, 06:38

Quote from: Bad Robot on July 18, 2020, 09:39
On a slightly hilarious note I see stockphotofan1 is still banging the drum for his paymasters 

https://twitter.com/stockphotofan1

Lonely guy [emoji16]. Apparently he's blocked a lot of people so that he/she/it can reply to their tweets without response. Talk about one sided conversation

He has no followers, no likes and just seems to have taken upon himself to answer in shutterstock's place. Since they anyhow don't want to do it themselves

Seems like one more way SS botched their people handling and PR. [emoji90] Or maybe its Stan/Jon's frustration account

Somebody who watches for your reactions, a big troll. SS wouldn't waste the time.

Quote from: Shelma1 on July 19, 2020, 10:16
I'm also banned, I guess because I pointed out that he gets barely any sales. Easy enough to see his Twitter account, though, where he spends a lot of time retweeting Jo Ann, so I thank him for that, though he only has 14 followers so he's not helping us spread the message all that much. I feel sorry for the guy.

I've been banned for 12 years.

Quote from: YadaYadaYada on July 19, 2020, 17:07

Quote from: cathyslife on July 19, 2020, 12:49
I, too, am banned and I have never had any interaction with him at all. I wonder if it's a Jon Oringer incognito account?

Incognito secret accounts, black opps. As seen on TV https://youtu.be/sRWtFVFSx5I

Quote from: Shelma1 on July 19, 2020, 10:16
I'm also banned, I guess because I pointed out that he gets barely any sales. Easy enough to see his Twitter account, though, where he spends a lot of time retweeting Jo Ann, so I thank him for that, though he only has 14 followers so he's not helping us spread the message all that much. I feel sorry for the guy.

Very sorry.

Quote from: Rage on July 19, 2020, 06:38

Quote from: Bad Robot on July 18, 2020, 09:39
On a slightly hilarious note I see stockphotofan1 is still banging the drum for his paymasters 

https://twitter.com/stockphotofan1

Lonely guy [emoji16]. Apparently he's blocked a lot of people so that he/she/it can reply to their tweets without response. Talk about one sided conversation

He has no followers, no likes and just seems to have taken upon himself to answer in shutterstock's place. Since they anyhow don't want to do it themselves

Seems like one more way SS botched their people handling and PR. [emoji90] Or maybe its Stan/Jon's frustration account

Somebody who watches for your reactions, a big troll. SS wouldn't waste the time.

Speaking of trolls.

Quote from: Bad Robot on July 18, 2020, 09:39
On a slightly hilarious note I see stockphotofan1 is still banging the drum for his paymasters 

https://twitter.com/stockphotofan1

I never even knew about this guy, followed the link to Twitter out of curiosity only to find out he/she had blocked me 

And even Trump hasn't blocked me and I've been pretty harsh on him.

Quote from: cathyslife on July 19, 2020, 20:10

Quote from: YadaYadaYada on July 19, 2020, 17:07

Quote from: cathyslife on July 19, 2020, 12:49
I, too, am banned and I have never had any interaction with him at all. I wonder if it's a Jon Oringer incognito account?

Incognito secret accounts, black opps. As seen on TV https://youtu.be/sRWtFVFSx5I

Quote from: Shelma1 on July 19, 2020, 10:16
I'm also banned, I guess because I pointed out that he gets barely any sales. Easy enough to see his Twitter account, though, where he spends a lot of time retweeting Jo Ann, so I thank him for that, though he only has 14 followers so he's not helping us spread the message all that much. I feel sorry for the guy.

Very sorry.

Quote from: Rage on July 19, 2020, 06:38

Quote from: Bad Robot on July 18, 2020, 09:39
On a slightly hilarious note I see stockphotofan1 is still banging the drum for his paymasters 

https://twitter.com/stockphotofan1

Lonely guy [emoji16]. Apparently he's blocked a lot of people so that he/she/it can reply to their tweets without response. Talk about one sided conversation

He has no followers, no likes and just seems to have taken upon himself to answer in shutterstock's place. Since they anyhow don't want to do it themselves

Seems like one more way SS botched their people handling and PR. [emoji90] Or maybe its Stan/Jon's frustration account

Somebody who watches for your reactions, a big troll. SS wouldn't waste the time.

Speaking of trolls.

Concentrate, pay attention, focus.

.

Quote from: ShadySue on July 21, 2020, 19:12
And even Trump hasn't blocked me and I've been pretty harsh on him.

Yes, same here! 😂

I've seen a couple more tweets the last couple of days of SS buyers not being able to buy an image they need, and SS contacting the contributor to re-upload it/turn it on. Yes! It's working! 👍

Quote from: cathyslife on July 21, 2020, 23:24
I've seen a couple more tweets the last couple of days of SS buyers not being able to buy an image they need, and SS contacting the contributor to re-upload it/turn it on. Yes! It's working! 👍

How much would SS pay for re-uploaded images?

Quote from: Les on July 21, 2020, 23:46

Quote from: cathyslife on July 21, 2020, 23:24
I've seen a couple more tweets the last couple of days of SS buyers not being able to buy an image they need, and SS contacting the contributor to re-upload it/turn it on. Yes! It's working! 👍

How much would SS pay for re-uploaded images?

Ten cents, I'm sure! One person sent a message back to SS support, with a link to the other sites he offers it on. 😂 If the buyers would have contacted him directly, he of course would have sold it to them.

Quote from: cascoly on July 18, 2020, 19:34

Quote from: Horizon on July 18, 2020, 06:32

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Anyway most of the professional photographers that I personally know at SS have already left including myself. We even started to leave before all this royalty troubles! well over a year back they started to skew the algorithm towards certain countries and members and ever since then it wasn't worth the troubles anymore!

anecdotal

how many of the top 10,000 photographers on SS do you know??

everyone of them and all 200000 are top photographers!

Is it just me or has the SS forum disabled 'quotes'?

Quote from: OM on July 23, 2020, 01:22
Is it just me or has the SS forum disabled 'quotes'?

I don't think so. I just quoted you. But I work on an ipad and this forum software isn't very ipad friendly.

Quote from: cathyslife on July 22, 2020, 01:08

Quote from: Les on July 21, 2020, 23:46

Quote from: cathyslife on July 21, 2020, 23:24
I've seen a couple more tweets the last couple of days of SS buyers not being able to buy an image they need, and SS contacting the contributor to re-upload it/turn it on. Yes! It's working! 👍

How much would SS pay for re-uploaded images?

Ten cents, I'm sure! One person sent a message back to SS support, with a link to the other sites he offers it on. 😂 If the buyers would have contacted him directly, he of course would have sold it to them.

Actually, that happens sometimes. One photographer from my local camera club was contacted by a TV production company who wanted to use his image in ten episodes of their series. He negotiated a royalty of $250 per episode which amounted to $2500 for the whole deal. If he had submitted that image to SS, they could have bought the image with an unlimited unrestricted royalty and he would get 10 cents. Or maybe an EL. 

I think the days when the sales volume is more important than a properly managed image with specific royalty rights are over. Better to sell a good image for a decent price once a year than getting 100 downloads at 10cents.

Quote from: cathyslife on July 23, 2020, 01:29

Quote from: OM on July 23, 2020, 01:22
Is it just me or has the SS forum disabled 'quotes'?

I don't think so. I just quoted you. But I work on an ipad and this forum software isn't very ipad friendly.

I don't mean the SS forum on MSG but the SS forum on Shutterstock. No new posts since Tuesday either.

Quote from: OM on July 23, 2020, 07:48

Quote from: cathyslife on July 23, 2020, 01:29

Quote from: OM on July 23, 2020, 01:22
Is it just me or has the SS forum disabled 'quotes'?

I don't think so. I just quoted you. But I work on an ipad and this forum software isn't very ipad friendly.

.

I don't mean the SS forum on MSG but the SS forum on Shutterstock. No new posts since Tuesday either.

OK got it. I saw another thread, too, where it might be possible they disabled the SS forum altogether. Sorry I misunderstood

So the inversion between AS and SS finally happens. I wonder (and hope) that it will continue onward, and is not just a one-off change due to short-term boycotting. I also hope and wish to AS to find the way and survive this dramatic royalties cut by SS and keep up their business viable and profitable without cutting our royalties (or at least not as much, and by providing other possibilities to offset the revenues).

When these companies are our top tier we know the game is over for good...

ScanStockPhoto
YayImages
Crestock
Stockfresh
GLStock
DrawShop
Cutcaster

Quote from: Cobra on August 07, 2020, 21:06
When these companies are our top tier we know the game is over for good...

ScanStockPhoto
YayImages
Crestock
Stockfresh
GLStock
DrawShop
Cutcaster

Sad, but true.

Adobe and Pond5 have a rare chance to get a ton of contributors and customers right now. Funnily enough this is exactly what shutterstock did when the whole Getty fiasco happened. Lets hope it gets played well and helps us

Quote from: Les on August 07, 2020, 22:48

Quote from: Cobra on August 07, 2020, 21:06
When these companies are our top tier we know the game is over for good...

ScanStockPhoto
YayImages
Crestock
Stockfresh
GLStock
DrawShop
Cutcaster

Sad, but true.

Very True

Quote from: Cobra on August 07, 2020, 21:06
When these companies are our top tier we know the game is over for good...

ScanStockPhoto
YayImages
Crestock
Stockfresh
GLStock
DrawShop
Cutcaster

Some of these have closed already but okay.

Quote from: Noedelhap on August 09, 2020, 22:22

Quote from: Cobra on August 07, 2020, 21:06
When these companies are our top tier we know the game is over for good...

ScanStockPhoto
YayImages
Crestock
Stockfresh
GLStock
DrawShop
Cutcaster

Some of these have closed already but okay.

Which of them are still open.  Maybe that was sarcasm at play.

Oh wait, Yay and Crestock both have 0.1 ratings