Author Topic: What do you disagree about SS?? (Read 15783 times)

PedroV · « **on:** October 02, 2009, 14:09 »

I hate that tax thing and the "sendin' 10 images and if rejected you can't sell in a month" policy
appart from the price of sales are too low

YadaYadaYada · « **Reply #1 on:** October 02, 2009, 14:21 »

Quote from: PedroV on October 02, 2009, 14:09

I hate that tax thing and the "sendin' 10 images and if rejected you can't sell in a month" policy
appart from the price of sales are too low

Translation. I just got refused and have to wait a month I'll start trolling for SS complaints while I wait.

stockastic · « **Reply #2 on:** October 02, 2009, 15:11 »

SS has been great, I have no complaints- except that at 25 cents a sale, it isn't worth the effort. I got nothing but 25 cent sales all through August and September and was thinking seriously about dropping them. Then I got a single EL out of the blue (on the first photo I ever submitted, back in February) so I'm giving them another chance, for a while at least.

disorderly · « **Reply #3 on:** October 02, 2009, 15:24 »

I hate that they're only 30% of my stock income, or maybe I just hate that none of the other agencies do nearly as well. I hate it on the infrequent occasions they reject one of my pictures, but mostly because I have to accept that they were right to do so. I hate it that they aren't tougher on other people's work than they are on mine, and that they don't put my photos at the front of every search. Hey, I never claimed to be fair, did I?

Xalanx · « **Reply #4 on:** October 02, 2009, 15:37 »

For me they are simply the best.

You appear to have lots of things to moan about every agency, PedroV. May I suggest a different hobby?

Allsa · « **Reply #5 on:** October 02, 2009, 15:41 »

I wish they would stop urging contributors to look at the 'top 50' best selling images to get ideas. I get sick and tired of having my ideas ripped off and the worst offenders are on Shutterstock. Why not encourage people to be original? They attract contributors who couldn't come up with an original idea if their lives depended on it.

stockastic · « **Reply #6 on:** October 02, 2009, 16:22 »

Allsa, you gotta be kidding. Of course they want all their contributors to copy the big sellers, so SS can have more big sellers. They could care less about originality.

Last time I looked at that 'top 50' I concluded most of them got there by keyword spamming. Now there's something to complain about.

lisafx · « **Reply #7 on:** October 02, 2009, 16:42 »

Quote from: Xalanx on October 02, 2009, 15:37

You appear to have lots of things to moan about every agency, PedroV. May I suggest a different hobby?

Judging from all his complaint topics and topics suggesting fraud against the agencies, I am guessing PedroV is probably a familiar troll back with another name...

Xalanx · « **Reply #8 on:** October 02, 2009, 17:18 »

Quote from: lisafx on October 02, 2009, 16:42

Quote from: Xalanx on October 02, 2009, 15:37
You appear to have lots of things to moan about every agency, PedroV. May I suggest a different hobby?

Judging from all his complaint topics and topics suggesting fraud against the agencies, I am guessing PedroV is probably a familiar troll back with another name...

You bet!

Digital66 · « **Reply #9 on:** October 02, 2009, 18:02 »

No problem with SS. They are doing a good work.

Having to wait a month is a good thing. If you are serious about stock photography you will try again. If your images where rejected don't take it personally. Maybe you are not yet ready to be a stock photographer. Maybe your photos are not as great as you think.

We all hate editors sometimes, but if there were no editors, the stock sites would be full of real garbage!

And if your work is good and sells well, after a few months you will earn more than 25 cents per image.

gostwyck · « **Reply #10 on:** October 02, 2009, 18:31 »

Quote from: Xalanx on October 02, 2009, 15:37

For me they are simply the best.

You appear to have lots of things to moan about every agency, PedroV. May I suggest a different hobby?

... is the right answer.

lisafx · « **Reply #11 on:** October 02, 2009, 18:37 »

Quote from: Digital66 on October 02, 2009, 18:02

No problem with SS. They are doing a good work.

Having to wait a month is a good thing. If you are serious about stock photography you will try again. If your images where rejected don't take it personally. Maybe you are not yet ready to be a stock photographer. Maybe your photos are not as great as you think.

^^ Very well said!

FWIW, I was around on Shutterstock before they had the initial review/rejection process and the wait time to reapply. The reviewers were buried under piles of sub-par stuff from new members who hadn't yet gotten the hang of it. Reviews got really backed up as a result.

After they started the 7 out of 10 application process and the wait time for rejected applicants it cut the review time for everyone else considerably.

eppic · « **Reply #12 on:** October 02, 2009, 18:45 »

I want a raise from .33/dl to three for a dollar so my earnings have a rounder number

davey_rocket · « **Reply #13 on:** October 02, 2009, 18:57 »

Yeah SS really makes me angry with the fact that they are consistently my top earner, approve vectors in less than 24 hours and have a simple upload system...

qwerty · « **Reply #14 on:** October 02, 2009, 19:18 »

Quote from: lisafx on October 02, 2009, 18:37

Quote from: Digital66 on October 02, 2009, 18:02
No problem with SS. They are doing a good work.

Having to wait a month is a good thing. If you are serious about stock photography you will try again. If your images where rejected don't take it personally. Maybe you are not yet ready to be a stock photographer. Maybe your photos are not as great as you think.

^^ Very well said!

FWIW, I was around on Shutterstock before they had the initial review/rejection process and the wait time to reapply. The reviewers were buried under piles of sub-par stuff from new members who hadn't yet gotten the hang of it. Reviews got really backed up as a result.

After they started the 7 out of 10 application process and the wait time for rejected applicants it cut the review time for everyone else considerably.

Imagine how may "photographers" they would have if there was no 7 out of 10. They claim 193872 at the moment.

nruboc · « **Reply #15 on:** October 02, 2009, 23:52 »

Quote from: PedroV on October 02, 2009, 14:09

I hate that tax thing and the "sendin' 10 images and if rejected you can't sell in a month" policy
appart from the price of sales are too low

N-O-T-H-I-N-G..... ShutterStock is top class

ap · « **Reply #16 on:** October 03, 2009, 00:05 »

the sub prices are low, but as a result, all my photos get a fair shake at sales, rather than only 20% of the portfolio supporting the rest. it feels more democratic.

of course, i'm mad as hell. i'm a dictator by nature.

rene · « **Reply #17 on:** October 03, 2009, 01:01 »

Nothing.
SS and IS are only agencies I like (and trust them).
I hope one day Dreamstime and Fotolia learn from Shutterstock how to be contributor friendly, honest and have clear and transparent policies.

sharpshot · « **Reply #18 on:** October 03, 2009, 02:24 »

I can't complain too much about SS because they are my highest earning site but I would prefer to be paid a fixed % commission for subs sales. How much do we get there? it could be as low as the 20% we get with istock or perhaps it is much higher?

I would really like them to start a premium exclusive images collection, selling them at higher prices and giving us higher commissions. People pay a lot more for my images on other sites and I think SS should get in to that market. Perhaps they will use BigStock to do that?

traveler1116 · « **Reply #19 on:** October 03, 2009, 02:54 »

Quote from: eppic on October 02, 2009, 18:45

I want a raise from .33/dl to three for a dollar so my earnings have a rounder number

Yeah that would be great! But seriously the one thing I don't like is that you have to keep your images there for 2 years if you use their redcarpet program, I understand they are making things easier and doing some work for you but it would be better if they just didn't let you use the images somewhere else for two years and had a 6-9 month lockin for those images. Two years is so long that I'm sure others have been disuaded from using the program.

Peter · « **Reply #20 on:** October 03, 2009, 03:00 »

Only thing I dont like about SS is that new TAX they introduced. None of other big6 agencies have that tax, but only SS. :S

kaycee · « **Reply #21 on:** October 03, 2009, 03:04 »

I like SS in almost every thing they do so far....
-very big plus the support is very very good
-the forum is great
-the review is in most cases correct
-the try to listen to the contributers
-dealing with frauds

Some minus
-the top 50 is still the same
-25 cents is to low

annabelle496 · « **Reply #22 on:** October 03, 2009, 08:05 »

Quote from: kaycee on October 03, 2009, 03:04

I like SS in almost every thing they do so far....
-very big plus the support is very very good
-the forum is great
-the review is in most cases correct
-the try to listen to the contributers
-dealing with frauds

Some minus
-the top 50 is still the same
-25 cents is to low

I have to agree with Kaycee about what he wrote. I think Shutterstock is great.

True, they pay .25 at the lower end, but, as you hit certain levels, the payout goes up.

I've been fortunate getting several OD's from there with higher payouts.

Critiques can be tough, but, they have usually been correct.

As for the 30 day wait, I waited. And, it was well worth the effort.

So far, it's my best selling site.

A.

a.k.a.-tom · « **Reply #23 on:** October 05, 2009, 12:36 »

Nothing. Top earner for me in volume, sometimes top $ beating out IS. I have no problem with SS rejections, at least let me put it this way, of all the agencies I deal with, SS rejections bother me the least. SS recently shut down an abusing buyer and made sure I got credit for sales that I otherwise would have never been aware of. THAT bought a lot of loyalty from me. Even before that, SS was the agency I trusted the most in my business association with them. They are stable and seem to have direction. Do others pay more per sale? Yup... but do you trust them? Do they go to bat for you when the theives strike? Do you have the consitency of sales with them? Maybe you do... but as for me....
I have no complaints with SS.

=tom

litifeta · « **Reply #24 on:** October 07, 2009, 17:14 »

SS are not alone in the tax mistake. Lots of sites misunderstand the taxation requirements.

Apart from that, what I do not like is the minute I stop submitting for a while my sales fall through the floor. This month I will be lucky to make $10, yet 6 months ago I could get $100 payout easy.

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Author Topic: What do you disagree about SS?? (Read 15783 times)

PedroV

YadaYadaYada

stockastic

disorderly

Xalanx

Allsa

stockastic

lisafx

Xalanx

Digital66

gostwyck

lisafx

eppic

davey_rocket

qwerty

nruboc

ap

rene

sharpshot

traveler1116

Peter

kaycee

annabelle496

a.k.a.-tom

litifeta

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