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« on: August 23, 2017, 11:44 »
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I never thought I would ever say this but I have more dl-s on DP than on SS this week.
I know it is summer but almost no downloads in the middle of the week is very strange.
« Last Edit: August 23, 2017, 12:11 by Dodie »


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« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2017, 12:10 »
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I never thought I would ever say this but I have more dl-s on DT than on SS this week.
I know it is summer but almost no downloads in the middle of the week is very strange.

Yesterday, I had over $20 worth of Downloads on Canstock and less than $10 on Shutter. Never thought that would happen in a million years. I fear this is going to be the norm... :-\


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« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2017, 12:42 »
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SS is down to my third agency. Somehow, somewhere I recon they must have screwed up something chronic! maybe they are in a take-over bid corporate pirates?  well who knows?

Bad Company

« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2017, 13:11 »
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SS is down to my third agency. Somehow, somewhere I recon they must have screwed up something chronic! maybe they are in a take-over bid corporate pirates?  well who knows?

I haven't heard about any take-overs. Ever since they went public - they have squeeze the artists for every red penny- has caused them to collapse.  This ship is taking in water and will not stay afloat much longer  :-\


« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2017, 14:26 »
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SS is down to my third agency. Somehow, somewhere I recon they must have screwed up something chronic! maybe they are in a take-over bid corporate pirates?  well who knows?

I haven't heard about any take-overs. Ever since they went public - they have squeeze the artists for every red penny- has caused them to collapse.  This ship is taking in water and will not stay afloat much longer  :-\

I think we've heard the same about, IS, 123RF, DP, DT and BS. How do those places stay in business? I mean SS is making a profit, growing, expanding and improving, but the ship is taking on water? What about the ones that have gaping holes in their hulls.

Or maybe we're talking about from our side, these places are becoming less interesting from an income standpoint? Why would someone want to take over a losing business?  :)

« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2017, 14:41 »
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Shutterstock is a company with absolutely enormous running costs. Not all are, so they don't need to sell that much to stay afloat.

« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2017, 14:50 »
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Shutterstock is a company with absolutely enormous running costs. Not all are, so they don't need to sell that much to stay afloat.

Yes, the little ones need to make 90 cents for every dime we get. Pay $10 a month and people like that better than SS?  :) That's how they stay in business. Artists willing to sell out in desperation for insulting low percentages and minimal commissions. The whole industry is on life support except maybe the top ten. The rest keep changing their rules and re-writing their business plan.

This is also known as bailing water on a sinking ship, or hopelessly rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.   ;D

One of these days the costs vs income will reach the tipping point and the little leeches and parasites will have to shed their support system of desperate artists who will take this abuse. I really don't think we should help and encourage an abusive business relationship, which is what some of these places represent.

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« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2017, 00:17 »
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SS is down to my third agency. Somehow, somewhere I recon they must have screwed up something chronic! maybe they are in a take-over bid corporate pirates?  well who knows?

I haven't heard about any take-overs. Ever since they went public - they have squeeze the artists for every red penny- has caused them to collapse.  This ship is taking in water and will not stay afloat much longer  :-\

I think we've heard the same about, IS, 123RF, DP, DT and BS. How do those places stay in business? I mean SS is making a profit, growing, expanding and improving, but the ship is taking on water? What about the ones that have gaping holes in their hulls.

Or maybe we're talking about from our side, these places are becoming less interesting from an income standpoint? Why would someone want to take over a losing business?  :)

Youre right about enormous turn-over and this is the funny part of it. So where is the money going??????  dont think for one minute that the so called " factories" are getting it all. I know of two factories and both with over 100K files and right now they are starving alive.
It could be the distributors aggregators!  I am doing handsomely well with one of them.

« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2017, 05:29 »
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personally reading all the previous message i feel puzzled...canstock 20 dollar day...ss beaten by can stock...for me

123rf canstock bigstock deposit and dreamstime made 7 dollar combined
ss alone 4 digit so far with more than 350 dollar of single and 200 of on demand...best ever month of my life, triple of july. reading can stock earn 20 dollar a single day make me question why i not see anything despite having similar portfolio there.

only fotolia is adding something and istock.
dreamstime in january gave me 75 dollar...this month 2,6 dollar and 12 days without sales.


« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2017, 07:21 »
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I reckon I've been reading about the imminent doom of SS for the last 5 or six years. Seems to me they are currently having some difficulty maintaining their wildly over optimistic growth projections and controlling costs and are overvalued. But not about to go over any cliffs. The success or otherwise of any individual's portfolio is not really an indication of how SS is doing any more than Farmer Brown not being able to sell his milk at Walmart indicates Walmart is on the verge of bankruptcy.

Bad Company

« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2017, 15:41 »
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I reckon I've been reading about the imminent doom of SS for the last 5 or six years. Seems to me they are currently having some difficulty maintaining their wildly over optimistic growth projections and controlling costs and are overvalued. But not about to go over any cliffs. The success or otherwise of any individual's portfolio is not really an indication of how SS is doing any more than Farmer Brown not being able to sell his milk at Walmart indicates Walmart is on the verge of bankruptcy.

agree on most parts but there are a lot more (some very high end artists) artists than just Farmer Brown stating that their sales are down big time. The SS Ship is big but even the Titanic went down which many felt was unsinkable during her day...

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« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2017, 20:35 »
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I agree with Bad Company.

« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2017, 01:02 »
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I reckon I've been reading about the imminent doom of SS for the last 5 or six years. Seems to me they are currently having some difficulty maintaining their wildly over optimistic growth projections and controlling costs and are overvalued. But not about to go over any cliffs. The success or otherwise of any individual's portfolio is not really an indication of how SS is doing any more than Farmer Brown not being able to sell his milk at Walmart indicates Walmart is on the verge of bankruptcy.

agree on most parts but there are a lot more (some very high end artists) artists than just Farmer Brown stating that their sales are down big time. The SS Ship is big but even the Titanic went down which many felt was unsinkable during her day...
Its a possibility I just don't think we are there yet another bad 6 months and the iceberg might be close.

« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2017, 08:45 »
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I reckon I've been reading about the imminent doom of SS for the last 5 or six years. Seems to me they are currently having some difficulty maintaining their wildly over optimistic growth projections and controlling costs and are overvalued. But not about to go over any cliffs. The success or otherwise of any individual's portfolio is not really an indication of how SS is doing any more than Farmer Brown not being able to sell his milk at Walmart indicates Walmart is on the verge of bankruptcy.

agree on most parts but there are a lot more (some very high end artists) artists than just Farmer Brown stating that their sales are down big time. The SS Ship is big but even the Titanic went down which many felt was unsinkable during her day...
Its a possibility I just don't think we are there yet another bad 6 months and the iceberg might be close.

When SS used to tank, it would usually rebound in two weeks or thereabouts.  For me currently, I am on my fourth month of 40-50% less revenue.  The spikes I do get to maintain my current revenue are video sales. Otherwise video seems to have dried up too.  I find it odd that my video AND stills have dried up. Because of that it makes me believe that the drop in sales is indeed based on linking the search to elements of individual contributor's (rank, tenure, revenue, etc.) and not so much more competition.  So for example, I must fit a specific profile that the search adjustment targets. It's the only logic I can muster with literally an overnight drop from my $1200 April to my $526 May and beyond.  August is trending to hit $500, maybe a few bucks more.  I believe what is happening is, for the most part, controlled and not so much organic.
« Last Edit: August 26, 2017, 08:48 by Mantis »

Bad Company

« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2017, 09:44 »
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I reckon I've been reading about the imminent doom of SS for the last 5 or six years. Seems to me they are currently having some difficulty maintaining their wildly over optimistic growth projections and controlling costs and are overvalued. But not about to go over any cliffs. The success or otherwise of any individual's portfolio is not really an indication of how SS is doing any more than Farmer Brown not being able to sell his milk at Walmart indicates Walmart is on the verge of bankruptcy.

agree on most parts but there are a lot more (some very high end artists) artists than just Farmer Brown stating that their sales are down big time. The SS Ship is big but even the Titanic went down which many felt was unsinkable during her day...
Its a possibility I just don't think we are there yet another bad 6 months and the iceberg might be close.

When SS used to tank, it would usually rebound in two weeks or thereabouts.  For me currently, I am on my fourth month of 40-50% less revenue.  The spikes I do get to maintain my current revenue are video sales. Otherwise video seems to have dried up too.  I find it odd that my video AND stills have dried up. Because of that it makes me believe that the drop in sales is indeed based on linking the search to elements of individual contributor's (rank, tenure, revenue, etc.) and not so much more competition.  So for example, I must fit a specific profile that the search adjustment targets. It's the only logic I can muster with literally an overnight drop from my $1200 April to my $526 May and beyond.  August is trending to hit $500, maybe a few bucks more.  I believe what is happening is, for the most part, controlled and not so much organic.

I would plan on only making $500 a month on SS. The days of making over a grand a month are gone I fear...

« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2017, 09:54 »
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I reckon I've been reading about the imminent doom of SS for the last 5 or six years. Seems to me they are currently having some difficulty maintaining their wildly over optimistic growth projections and controlling costs and are overvalued. But not about to go over any cliffs. The success or otherwise of any individual's portfolio is not really an indication of how SS is doing any more than Farmer Brown not being able to sell his milk at Walmart indicates Walmart is on the verge of bankruptcy.

agree on most parts but there are a lot more (some very high end artists) artists than just Farmer Brown stating that their sales are down big time. The SS Ship is big but even the Titanic went down which many felt was unsinkable during her day...
Its a possibility I just don't think we are there yet another bad 6 months and the iceberg might be close.

When SS used to tank, it would usually rebound in two weeks or thereabouts.  For me currently, I am on my fourth month of 40-50% less revenue.  The spikes I do get to maintain my current revenue are video sales. Otherwise video seems to have dried up too.  I find it odd that my video AND stills have dried up. Because of that it makes me believe that the drop in sales is indeed based on linking the search to elements of individual contributor's (rank, tenure, revenue, etc.) and not so much more competition.  So for example, I must fit a specific profile that the search adjustment targets. It's the only logic I can muster with literally an overnight drop from my $1200 April to my $526 May and beyond.  August is trending to hit $500, maybe a few bucks more.  I believe what is happening is, for the most part, controlled and not so much organic.

I would plan on only making $500 a month on SS. The days of making over a grand a month are gone I fear...

Agree. Glad I have a day job. :'(

« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2017, 01:23 »
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« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2017, 01:34 »
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August is a pretty bad month if nothing changes in few more days. We are currently only at $847, while we had $1088 last year.

« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2017, 14:03 »
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Not a lot of sales, that is sure. I have 4 days for which I have a total of 3 sales this month. (3 single sales and one nothing). This is like back when I had double digit number of images (I have well over 3,000 now).

It does seem like something port-wise is changed in the search - maybe location, or who knows what. It certainly hasn't helped me. Stick that on top of the huge increase in images for sale and the modest increase in image sales (most of the $ steered to a few contributors?) and it paints a bleak picture for me.

SS might be doing fine, but it is already not worth it for me to put a lot of work into an image, and at some point it won't be worth it for me to upload at all.

« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2017, 17:13 »
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I make over a grand a month on SS but in video  ;D

Bad Company

« Reply #20 on: August 28, 2017, 09:23 »
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I make over a grand a month on SS but in video  ;D

You're on the high end of the videos thus explaining your good earnings.  My images and videos are average at best thus income levels falling like a rock.

« Reply #21 on: September 27, 2017, 12:51 »
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My Shutterstock sales took a nosedive ... comparing to June 2017 the sales are down 45% in July, 55% in August and almost 60% in September. 

« Reply #22 on: September 27, 2017, 22:00 »
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I guess I can join in on the chorus.  :'( Four years with the SS and September is slightly better than the first year. Shutterstock is the only motivation for staying in the game. Not much incentive if things stay the same.

« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2017, 04:58 »
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Absolutelly horible September in Ss for me... total disaster, don`t know what happened but it`s not good

« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2017, 06:09 »
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SS down a bit but not alarming for me. I do see more sales from adobe in my video!! I am fine with that as I make more there then SS!!!


 

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