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Agency Based Discussion => Shutterstock.com => Topic started by: mwp1969 on April 04, 2010, 17:36
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All,
I would find it most interesting data, for those that don't mind sharing, to find out what the highest number of downloads everyone has had in a single day on Shutterstock and whether or not this particular day happened to be their Best Day Ever(BDE). Let's exclude everyone's first two months on SS ...
Here was mine:
19 Total Downloads including 1 on Demand. No ELs. Not a BDE - 900 images March 2010
-Mark
http://markwpayne.wordpress.com (http://markwpayne.wordpress.com)
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42. Back in the summer of 2007 with less than 100 images in my portfolio. It was so much better back then. :-\
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54 downloads
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87 so far.
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34 back in Dec 2007, but got 26 last month so hope to do better:)
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128 back in February
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164 back in the hazy, crazy, lazy days of March 2008.
Good times. (takes out onion)
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143 in mid 2007, had over 500 that week
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99 downloads on Mar 10, 2010. Included 7 ODDs and 0 ELs, port size around 900. Not BDE, which would have been April 8... 92 downloads including 5 ODDs and 3 ELs for a total of $124.68 (also on that day a referred subscription, but that revenue is received later).
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216 in Feb. 2008, 300-350 images in port. Yep, the good ol days. Lucky to get half that amount today with 3 times the port.
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Back to Back 75 dl days in mid Nov 2009
2nd day was a BDE with 2 OD's and 1 EL
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18
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156
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49 so far
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134 last month
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41 from portfolio with 169 pictures
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31 last month with portfolio of about 700 images
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Mark,
I think you need someone from the 'Dark Side' with single digits to give you a thumbs up :)
You're doing great, and getting better by the second.
I have never had 10 downloads a day, never 100 a month.
I think 8 is my highest number (over Christmas).
0 downloads for the past 2 days.
Port around 280 (not counting SS double vectors-raster).
Nobody's fault except mine.
Still, it's fun.
I can only get better (or not?) :)
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I'm amazed that your dls are so low, your images are great stock images.
Mark,
I think you need someone from the 'Dark Side' with single digits to give you a thumbs up :)
You're doing great, and getting better by the second.
I have never had 10 downloads a day, never 100 a month.
I think 8 is my highest number (over Christmas).
0 downloads for the past 2 days.
Port around 280 (not counting SS double vectors-raster).
Nobody's fault except mine.
Still, it's fun.
I can only get better (or not?) :)
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One of the metrics I track is downloads-per-image-per-month (DLPI).
My SS portfolio maxed out at 3857 images with an average DLPI of 1.45.
Interestingly enough, my iStock and Shutterstock DLPIs have always been very similar - at all other agencies my DLPI was always well below 1.0.
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I'm amazed that your dls are so low, your images are great stock images.
I have never had 10 downloads a day, never 100 a month.
I think 8 is my highest number (over Christmas).
0 downloads for the past 2 days.
Port around 280 (not counting SS double vectors-raster).
Nobody's fault except mine.
Still, it's fun.
I agree with fotografer, your portfolio should make much more, Eireann.
I recommend checking your keywording. Here, for example, I don't see "plate":
http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-35065183/stock-photo-strawberry-and-blueberry-dessert.html (http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-35065183/stock-photo-strawberry-and-blueberry-dessert.html)
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I'm still very new with less than 200 images online. My best download day was 11 but my best dollar day was $30.88. I was thrilled to see a payout in just over 2 months. Still gathering the confidence to try iStock. :P
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132 was my max.
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*cough*8*cough* June 2009 with a tiny port and my port is like 3 times it was back then and the most I've been able to get was 5 a few days ago.
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I'm still very new with less than 200 images online. My best download day was 11 but my best dollar day was $30.88. I was thrilled to see a payout in just over 2 months. Still gathering the confidence to try iStock. :P
very similar to your numbers! my mind boggles at those with 100+ dl/day. what kind of photos are those (can't see their port).
i'm sure is will be a cake walk for you, but don't expect the same spectacular results with ss. they're a very steady performer though.
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My best 24/day. It happened the during the first week with shutterstock.
Total revenue that day $6.00
Today I got $6.75 for one downloaded image as an iStock exclusive (among other downloads). Times have changed for sure.
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I joined SS ten days ago with 18 uploads and this Friday 7th of May I had 13 downloads, the day before 12 but usually around 6 a day, still with 18 files :D
I read somewhere that new contributors get more downloads for first weeks and then it drops, somebody can confirm that?
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I joined SS ten days ago with 18 uploads and this Friday 7th of May I had 13 downloads, the day before 12 but usually around 6 a day, still with 18 files :D
I read somewhere that new contributors get more downloads for first weeks and then it drops, somebody can confirm that?
I think the stats you just gave confirmed it. ;D
But, yes, that is the commonly held belief (and certainly backed up by my own experience).
IMO, you would do well to UL as many as you possibly can during the next few weeks.
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I was getting in the low 200s per day back in early 2008. SS has been on the slide ever since despite the growth in my portfolio.
I think this is pretty universal for those with larger portfolios, SS's hay day is long gone.
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I was getting in the low 200s per day back in early 2008. SS has been on the slide ever since despite the growth in my portfolio.
I think this is pretty universal for those with larger portfolios, SS's hay day is long gone.
Whose hay day took their place? Would the "long gone" apply across the board?
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33 (2 were video) for me back in 5-2008 w/ about 750 in the port. I rarely pass 1/2 of that now w/ twice the port.
I am guessing that my port growth has not kept pace w/ SS as a whole.
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I was getting in the low 200s per day back in early 2008. SS has been on the slide ever since despite the growth in my portfolio.
I think this is pretty universal for those with larger portfolios, SS's hay day is long gone.
In 2008 I was in the 100+ per day. Now, with a much bigger portfolio, and with bigger, better and professionally lit images, I'll get a fraction of that.
SS has become a shadow of those days.
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I probably should be embarrassed to post this, especially after seeing how successful many of you have been. But, my current objective is 4 sales per day -- hoping that a few are OD and EL.
I've spent the weekend uploading editorial stuff and boosting my port to just short of 300 images. Perhaps I should increase my expectations?
??? :-[ :P
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29 in April 2010!
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I was getting in the low 200s per day back in early 2008. SS has been on the slide ever since despite the growth in my portfolio.
I think this is pretty universal for those with larger portfolios, SS's hay day is long gone.
Whose hay day took their place? Would the "long gone" apply across the board?
None of the sites are showing the RPI that they used to but in terms of sales numbers no site has fallen faster or harder then Shutterstock. I remember when the slump there kicked in, even Yuri was on the boards complaining about how suddenly things had started to tank.
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May is my BME. My best now is 27 dl's and I've already gone over 100 dl's for this month with my record being 66 in a month. I'm hoping to make enough to make my 2nd payout from there next month got my first this month.
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I was getting in the low 200s per day back in early 2008. SS has been on the slide ever since despite the growth in my portfolio.
I think this is pretty universal for those with larger portfolios, SS's hay day is long gone.
I don't keep record of daily sales, so rather than go back over 2-3 years worth of sales history on SS, I just averaged April's DLs for the last 3 years.
April 08 - 150/day
April 09 - 115/day
April 10 - 100/day
So basically sales have fallen off by 33% in two years. And these are the same 2 years we haven't had any raises, so the DL drop isn't offset by higher royalties.
I can't really blame SS for the falloff though. Lets face it - in the past couple of years every single other site has been gunning for them by offering cut rate subscriptions. I actually think it's impressive they haven't fallen off more.
It would be nice to see a raise this year to offset the dwindling downloads, but I'm not holding my breath. With so many people willing to take .25 from Getty, why should SS pay us more... ::)
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I started in December and have not noticed any decline. Downloads aren't great but steady at 4-10, depending on day of the week. And, I'm grateful. It seems all my other outlets have hidden my portfolio. ::)
One of these days I may try my luck at iStock. :-\
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20 last month with port of approx. 700pics
very often 18 and 19
usually over 10 on weekdays and between 3 and 9 on saturdays and sundays
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180 a couple of years ago in the good old days with a port of about 700 photos. Lucky to reach half that nowadays. It's the only site that earnings have gone considerably down instead of considerably up. Probably my fault for not uploading much.
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I started in December and have not noticed any decline. Downloads aren't great but steady at 4-10, depending on day of the week. And, I'm grateful. It seems all my other outlets have hidden my portfolio. ::)
One of these days I may try my luck at iStock. :-\
In the first year or two your rate of portfolio growth tends to outstrip the rate of decrease in downloads. It's when your portfolio gets bigger that it becomes impossible to keep up.
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I was getting in the low 200s per day back in early 2008. SS has been on the slide ever since despite the growth in my portfolio.
I think this is pretty universal for those with larger portfolios, SS's hay day is long gone.
I don't keep record of daily sales, so rather than go back over 2-3 years worth of sales history on SS, I just averaged April's DLs for the last 3 years.
April 08 - 150/day
April 09 - 115/day
April 10 - 100/day
So basically sales have fallen off by 33% in two years. And these are the same 2 years we haven't had any raises, so the DL drop isn't offset by higher royalties.
I can't really blame SS for the falloff though. Lets face it - in the past couple of years every single other site has been gunning for them by offering cut rate subscriptions. I actually think it's impressive they haven't fallen off more.
It would be nice to see a raise this year to offset the dwindling downloads, but I'm not holding my breath. With so many people willing to take .25 from Getty, why should SS pay us more... ::)
I would be happy to get that level of drop off, I'm lucky to make half what I did back then!
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180 a couple of years ago in the good old days with a port of about 700 photos. Lucky to reach half that nowadays. It's the only site that earnings have gone considerably down instead of considerably up. Probably my fault for not uploading much.
Regarding SS I don't think that uploading is making much difference anymore. For example, I upload 40 images, 2 or 3 sell a couple times and then die. The old images continue to sell and the daily total remain about the same...
Two years ago all images would sell, and some of them many times per day.
There are several problems with SS:
- The competition from every site that started to offer subscriptions.
- The inability of the SS management to launch a competitive pay-per-download scheme to compensate and compete with the others who have "stolen" their subs market
- The 2008 end crisis that reduced marketing budgets
- After the above, the monthly subscription started to look a bit expensive and harder to control costs, compared to buy just what is needed
- The increase of the competition between photographers that started to take the micro income as more important because of the crisis, therefore more photos uploaded. In two years the weekly approved images jumped from 30.000 to 100.000.
- SS is betting in a policy of quantity, trying to build the largest micro library or even trying to challenge alamy in the future, for the title of largest stock agency
- This is leading to an approval policy that favors quantity over quality, and many very low quality images get approved burying new better quality images.
In two years SS passed from a having a 50/60% of my income to little over 30%, and only sporadically being the best agency of the month. IS is now the best selling agency, and FL is getting closer SS every month.
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^^ I think most of this spot on.
There was period when SS started really pushing the size of the collection in all their marketing, I think that was when the library suddenly grew massively in size. This makes me think that they decided to accept almost everything just so they could sell themselves based on the quantity of images they have.
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I joined SS ten days ago with 18 uploads and this Friday 7th of May I had 13 downloads, the day before 12 but usually around 6 a day, still with 18 files :D
I read somewhere that new contributors get more downloads for first weeks and then it drops, somebody can confirm that?
Same with me, I waited until I thought I had some "worthy" images for SS and uploaded a dozen. They flew off the pages and had sales and more sales, for a couple of weeks. Then I became like the rest of the contributors, working to make a bigger portfolio for more sales. Not as though the forum here and other places hasn't predicted and advised, this is just what would happen.
Here's a tip for anyone who isn't on SS yet. Wait until you have about 100 ready images, then when you get accepted work like nuts to get everything uploaded. You will have a great period of sales and cash in for your patience. What you miss by waiting even two months would be made up in the sales boost and prominence you get the first month on SS. The honeymoon only last until the next re-ranking of images, which means you need to pump up your account as fast as possible after getting accepted. Very nice of SS to give all new users a kick-start and help them get on the way.
Of course everyone wants to use this tip please use this referral link to sign up. http://submit.shutterstock.com/?ref=111418 But please make the most benefit from the new member boost. Yes it's true I've sunk into the depths of actually including a referral link. Once a year isn't too bad is it? :D
In the years of running the tag line at the bottom, I've had one person get accepted and upload and make sales. That was on 123RF by the way. All the rest, on various sites like IS and SS, started, and never got past the sign-up. It would be really nice to have just one SS person who gets over the hump and makes it. 8)
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Best day was 58, close to end of year 2009.