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With new earning structure made by Shutterstock will you disable your portfolio?

Disable photo and video
130 (47.3%)
Disable only photo
15 (5.5%)
Disable only video
21 (7.6%)
Disable nothing
76 (27.6%)
Quit Shutterstock
33 (12%)

Total Members Voted: 266

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« Reply #275 on: June 06, 2020, 07:27 »
0
But in my opinion the idea of sending my photos with which I started making microstock, the majority of which are invalid, together with some duplicate photos if it were practiced by many would put SS in difficulty.
At worst they are selling photos for which 10 cents could be a good price


« Reply #276 on: June 06, 2020, 07:31 »
+1
But in my opinion the idea of sending my photos with which I started making microstock, the majority of which are invalid, together with some duplicate photos if it were practiced by many would put SS in difficulty.
At worst they are selling photos for which 10 cents could be a good price

No point in submitting duplicates, they seem to have an efficient system to filter out similar submissions. Even if you make little changes to the picture it will be automatically rejected as too similar

« Reply #277 on: June 06, 2020, 07:40 »
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No point in submitting duplicates, they seem to have an efficient system to filter out similar submissions. Even if you make little changes to the picture it will be automatically rejected as too similar
[/quote]

I am about to upload a first collection of about 30 invalid photos.
There is likely to be some duplicate but almost certain that they were rejected at the time.
I will tell you later what outcome they had.
I am so disappointed by these SS jackals that even at the cost of wasting a lot of time I would like to throw a lot of that crap on him !!!

« Reply #278 on: June 06, 2020, 08:06 »
+7
My RPD for subs in June is 0.23. We are talking 500+ subs / day here. Its a Bad joke.

« Reply #279 on: June 06, 2020, 09:44 »
+8

So I am wondering if they will eventually vanish in a while, are they being counted as active images in SS database, can they still be downloaded?

For example:

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-illustration/computer-designed-highly-detailed-grunge-frame-88245046

If the count of my images i already 0 this link shouldn't be working.

What is the situation for you that disabled your portfolio before, are your image links still working ?

Your image shows up in my buyer's account. So yes, I believe that I'm able to license your image right now if I wanted to.

Which is another thing - has Shutterstock any idea how many of us are buyers of stock images too? Clearly we won't be sourcing images from Shutterstock going forwards. Did the same thing to iStock when they played stupid games too.

« Reply #280 on: June 06, 2020, 09:45 »
+2
* they were very fast !!!!
In about 3 hours they examined 61 of my photos (poor !!!) dating back to my approach to the microstock world, and they rejected about 50% of them.
It would be completely unlikely that any of those accepted could ever be downloaded unless some customer pushed by a compulsion due to the cost of a subscription select it.
However, sales continue at $ 0.10 ~ $ 0.14.
I wait a few more days before unplugging.
But what a disappointment SS !!!!!!!!

« Reply #281 on: June 06, 2020, 09:59 »
0
I'am not gona disable my port, but i stop uploading for a while
First i want to wait and see how this turns out

In the first week i had a rpd for subs of 31 cent (before 25 cent)
So i think whit the new structure i can earn more

Then you just got lucky with the first few sub sales.
It looks like not even level 6 contributors will make 0.31 avarage on sub sales
Most of my downloads are from the Netherlands
My guess (and hope) that those customers use smaller subscripton packages

So i hope that, this trend continue for me

« Reply #282 on: June 06, 2020, 10:05 »
+4
Just a question...

I disabled my portfolio and if you follow the SS link in my signature you can see that there are no active images there.
Also in SS search engine the images dont show up.

But, the links to the images are still working, so the are accessible from pinterest or google search etc.

So I am wondering if they will eventually vanish in a while, are they being counted as active images in SS database, can they still be downloaded?

For example:

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-illustration/computer-designed-highly-detailed-grunge-frame-88245046

If the count of my images i already 0 this link shouldn't be working.

What is the situation for you that disabled your portfolio before, are your image links still working ?

The links work but you can't download the image. Click the download button and you'll see a message "There was an issue with your request. Please try again, or Contact us if you need further assistance"

This just isn't an issue. There is no need to delete images - disabling the portfolio works

« Reply #283 on: June 06, 2020, 10:07 »
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Your image shows up in my buyer's account. So yes, I believe that I'm able to license your image right now if I wanted to.

No - did you try to click the download button? You'll get a message that says

"There was an issue with your request. Please try again, or Contact us if you need further assistance"

« Reply #284 on: June 06, 2020, 10:15 »
+6
Just disabled everything. It means stock is more or less pointless for me now - well, it has been since June 1, with something like a 60% cut in commission earnings (thanks for the birthday present, SS!)....

Glad to see you - sad it's for this reason.

There are lots of charts that explain the new royalties if you care to dig into the details, but the bottom line is that it's a massive royalty cut and they're siphoning off contributor earnings to fund expensive CEOs & other execs, a 17 a share dividend later this month, and better-looking profit numbers to keep Wall Street happy when they announce their Q2 earnings some time in early August.

Stan Pavlovsky (new CEO) should go back to being a financial analyst as he's useless as a strategist. I hope Jon Oringer is having sleepless nights wondering if he's turning Shutterstock into another of the failed businesses that he used to say were the only "jobs" he'd had before starting Shutterstock.

It's all shameful. Check the #BoycottShutterstock hashtag on twitter if you want to read more about people who are doing what you're doing and disabling their portfolios in protest. There's a chance this may make changes happen, but at least it sends a signal to the remaining agencies that snatching from contributor royalties is a very bad idea :)

« Reply #285 on: June 06, 2020, 10:21 »
0


The links work but you can't download the image. Click the download button and you'll see a message "There was an issue with your request. Please try again, or Contact us if you need further assistance"

This just isn't an issue. There is no need to delete images - disabling the portfolio works
[/quote]

Can you tell me if it will be sufficient to rehabilitate the sale for the recovery of the portfolio?
Obviously if there were positive news for us collaborators from SS

« Reply #286 on: June 06, 2020, 10:59 »
+8
Just disabled around 5k images... too many .10 cent sales!! #boycottshutterstock #shutterstockboycott #saynotoShutterstock

« Reply #287 on: June 06, 2020, 11:22 »
0
Just a question...

I disabled my portfolio and if you follow the SS link in my signature you can see that there are no active images there.
Also in SS search engine the images dont show up.

But, the links to the images are still working, so the are accessible from pinterest or google search etc.

So I am wondering if they will eventually vanish in a while, are they being counted as active images in SS database, can they still be downloaded?

For example:

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-illustration/computer-designed-highly-detailed-grunge-frame-88245046

If the count of my images i already 0 this link shouldn't be working.

What is the situation for you that disabled your portfolio before, are your image links still working ?

The links work but you can't download the image. Click the download button and you'll see a message "There was an issue with your request. Please try again, or Contact us if you need further assistance"

This just isn't an issue. There is no need to delete images - disabling the portfolio works

Thanks, that probably settles it

Btw..

When I click download I get create your free account note and red username and psw fields event though Im allready logged in as contributor in same browser.




« Reply #288 on: June 06, 2020, 11:31 »
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Thanks, that probably settles it

Btw..

When I click download I get create your free account note and red username and psw fields event though Im allready logged in as contributor in same browser.

But that window wants you to register as buyer. Buyer and contributor accounts are not connected in any ways

« Reply #289 on: June 06, 2020, 11:41 »
+2
Thanks, that probably settles it

Btw..

When I click download I get create your free account note and red username and psw fields event though Im allready logged in as contributor in same browser.

But that window wants you to register as buyer. Buyer and contributor accounts are not connected in any ways

I have a buyer account and a contributor account. You can do both so you can see both sides of the Shutterstock site.

I was referring to what happens when logged in to my buyer account

« Reply #290 on: June 06, 2020, 11:43 »
0


The links work but you can't download the image. Click the download button and you'll see a message "There was an issue with your request. Please try again, or Contact us if you need further assistance"

This just isn't an issue. There is no need to delete images - disabling the portfolio works

Can you tell me if it will be sufficient to rehabilitate the sale for the recovery of the portfolio?
Obviously if there were positive news for us collaborators from SS
[/quote]

I am not sure I understand the question.

If the question is whether you can turn your images back on again and resume sales, I did that once before in 2011 after I returned to being independent following 3 years as an iStock exclusive. It worked fine then, and I assume it does not, but my portfolio is currently "off" so I haven't tested it in 2020

« Reply #291 on: June 06, 2020, 12:09 »
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The links work but you can't download the image. Click the download button and you'll see a message "There was an issue with your request. Please try again, or Contact us if you need further assistance"

This just isn't an issue. There is no need to delete images - disabling the portfolio works

Can you tell me if it will be sufficient to rehabilitate the sale for the recovery of the portfolio?
Obviously if there were positive news for us collaborators from SS

I am not sure I understand the question.

If the question is whether you can turn your images back on again and resume sales, I did that once before in 2011 after I returned to being independent following 3 years as an iStock exclusive. It worked fine then, and I assume it does not, but my portfolio is currently "off" so I haven't tested it in 2020
[/quote]

OK! Grazie


« Reply #292 on: June 06, 2020, 12:33 »
0
Thanks, that probably settles it

Btw..

When I click download I get create your free account note and red username and psw fields event though Im allready logged in as contributor in same browser.

But that window wants you to register as buyer. Buyer and contributor accounts are not connected in any ways

Thats why I assumed Jo Ann has buyers account.

« Reply #293 on: June 06, 2020, 13:44 »
+3
I hope Jon Oringer is having sleepless nights wondering if he's turning Shutterstock into another of the failed businesses that he used to say were the only "jobs" he'd had before starting Shutterstock.

Hi again Jo Ann. I really doubt that he is troubled by what's going on. Frankly, if I'd made tens of millions out of something and had them safely stashed away I wouldn't be too bothered about whether it was starting to go wrong (I'm not really that nice). It does look as if he is shifting his stash out of SS shares into something more reliable ... like cash.

B8

« Reply #294 on: June 06, 2020, 13:54 »
+7
Something a bit ironic in all this is that I had also first learned about the pay cut from the email I received from SS about a week ago, but I didnt actually think that much of it or about it in detail at the time (for whatever reason). Maybe I was busy, or maybe I was even distracted by something else at the moment, but somehow I even almost managed to forgot about it.

Then, around the 2nd of June, I decided to check in on my SS sales for the last 5-6 days, which is something I often do. Thats when I saw the $0.10 royalties had started coming into my account and thats when it really sunk in. Then, and I dont think it took more than another 30 seconds, before I opened up the settings in my SS account and disabled my portfolio completely. It was as fast as that and it was as if something that I had never even considered before was then suddenly decided for me in the blink of an eye. I didnt really care to hear what might even be the reason behind it. I just simply decided right then and there that me and my pictures are worth more than that. And it was only after I disabled my portfolio that I came here onto this site and realized there was already a big movement about it and that so many other people were also pulling out of SS en masse like I did. I didnt actually think the decision I made so quickly would have been so equally instinctive for so many other people too. That was my underestimation, but it was deeply comforting to see that I was by far not alone in my thinking.

I do realize though there are also a lot of contributors on SS who have much larger portfolios than me, who are heavily invested in their content, and who really rely on the SS income to put food on the table. For those of you I hail, you truly have my sympathies because its horrible to be pushed into a position where you feel you need to allow yourself to be exploited only because you have no other choice. My heart definitely goes out to you all.

I do hope though that from all of this something great will emerge from the ashes which will allow everyone to regain their dignity and income as image creators in this industry that has been on the downhill for everyone for nearly a decade. Lets see what happens and try and remain positive for the moment. Its only been a few days that things have begun to really percolate and maybe it will start to boil over in a positive way very soon. This to me feels like this could finally be the thing thats big enough to cause the paradigm to shift in a positive way for the valuable creators in an industry where there has been much needed change for so very very long. The revolution has begun!
« Last Edit: June 06, 2020, 14:12 by B8 »

« Reply #295 on: June 06, 2020, 15:31 »
+6
I've read so many times that contributors thought nothing was happening until January 1 and then were horrified when they saw what was going on with June royalties.

The sharp slap in the face of 10 or 12 royalties for people who were feeling good 'cause they were level 4, 5 or 6 and thought they could ride out the year before deciding anything had a pretty dramatic effect.

« Reply #296 on: June 06, 2020, 15:42 »
0
I've read so many times that contributors thought nothing was happening until January 1 and then were horrified when they saw what was going on with June royalties.

The sharp slap in the face of 10 or 12 royalties for people who were feeling good 'cause they were level 4, 5 or 6 and thought they could ride out the year before deciding anything had a pretty dramatic effect.

That's very understandable i think. Just by reading the mail i also though it was going to be a raise for now. As it said i will get 35%, and it was known that Shutterstock used to pay out around 30% buyers' payments to contributors. (including subscriptions).
The email did not state that we won't be compensated for unused subscription quotas. 
So i thought i would get an around 16% pay rise till the end of the year, and a the first part of next year will be a bit worse

« Reply #297 on: June 06, 2020, 15:53 »
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I've read so many times that contributors thought nothing was happening until January 1 and then were horrified when they saw what was going on with June royalties.

The sharp slap in the face of 10 or 12 royalties for people who were feeling good 'cause they were level 4, 5 or 6 and thought they could ride out the year before deciding anything had a pretty dramatic effect.

Shutterstock have split the war on it's contributors into two battles. Now they take on the 1 2 3 and 4s and in January they take on the 5 and 6s.  Currently the 5 and 6 groups have not enough to gain and to much to lose by pulling their ports now.  By the time January comes they will hope that there not be enough impetus left from the battle with the 1 2 3 4 to assist the 5 and 6s.  Taking on the 5 and 6s will be tough, but that is where the big money is made, and they don't want 10s of thousands of 1 2 3 and 4s getting in their way.

« Reply #298 on: June 06, 2020, 17:55 »
+3
I've read so many times that contributors thought nothing was happening until January 1 and then were horrified when they saw what was going on with June royalties.

The sharp slap in the face of 10 or 12 royalties for people who were feeling good 'cause they were level 4, 5 or 6 and thought they could ride out the year before deciding anything had a pretty dramatic effect.

That's very understandable i think. Just by reading the mail i also though it was going to be a raise for now. As it said i will get 35%, and it was known that Shutterstock used to pay out around 30% buyers' payments to contributors. (including subscriptions).
The email did not state that we won't be compensated for unused subscription quotas. 
So i thought i would get an around 16% pay rise till the end of the year, and a the first part of next year will be a bit worse

From the Shutterstock forums on May 26th, the day the email came out, by getting some questions answered, the picture was clear (Kate, the moderator, updated the original posts to spell out the details) that day for anyone who wanted to see. I've used screen grabs as some of my other posts were deleted and one never knows what may get "disappeared" over time


« Reply #299 on: June 06, 2020, 18:03 »
+2
I've read so many times that contributors thought nothing was happening until January 1 and then were horrified when they saw what was going on with June royalties.

The sharp slap in the face of 10 or 12 royalties for people who were feeling good 'cause they were level 4, 5 or 6 and thought they could ride out the year before deciding anything had a pretty dramatic effect.

That's very understandable i think. Just by reading the mail i also though it was going to be a raise for now. As it said i will get 35%, and it was known that Shutterstock used to pay out around 30% buyers' payments to contributors. (including subscriptions).
The email did not state that we won't be compensated for unused subscription quotas. 
So i thought i would get an around 16% pay rise till the end of the year, and a the first part of next year will be a bit worse

From the Shutterstock forums on May 26th, the day the email came out, by getting some questions answered, the picture was clear (Kate, the moderator, updated the original posts to spell out the details) that day for anyone who wanted to see. I've used screen grabs as some of my other posts were deleted and one never knows what may get "disappeared" over time

Not long after the email i've read the details on this forum. I just want to say that from the official email it was not obvious that sub sales will go that low


 

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