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Title: Wont exceed 10 dls today - new lows
Post by: Microstockphoto on May 09, 2017, 17:26
i am afraid i wont exceed 10 downloads today. its that bad

not sure how to tackle this but i guess uploading more isnt going to help much.

the pie is shared amongst to many people, ss is doing great, but it my motivation is gone.
Title: Re: Wont exceed 10 dls today - new lows
Post by: pancaketom on May 09, 2017, 18:37
I got 1 download over the weekend. Pretty demotivating.
Title: Re: Wont exceed 10 dls today - new lows
Post by: oscarcwilliams on May 09, 2017, 18:48
I got Zero downloads over the weekend and only (two) today.  What's going on and why is Shutterstock rating at 73.1 percent?
Title: Re: Wont exceed 10 dls today - new lows
Post by: substancep on May 09, 2017, 20:54
Zero downloads for almost a week! How's that?
Title: Re: Wont exceed 10 dls today - new lows
Post by: Mantis on May 09, 2017, 21:06
I got one $150 DL....:)
Title: Re: Wont exceed 10 dls today - new lows
Post by: Lana on May 09, 2017, 21:58
i am afraid i wont exceed 10 downloads today. its that bad

How many files do you have at SS?


I expected for sales of the second week of May to get back to normal, but my Monday was even worse than the last weekend and the 1st of May. Tuesday was slow too, saved by my first ever video sale (I have only 4 unedited embarassing clips in my port :D).

Title: Re: Wont exceed 10 dls today - new lows
Post by: SpaceStockFootage on May 09, 2017, 22:08
What's going on and why is Shutterstock rating at 73.1 percent?

Mainly because it's the 'Microstock Poll Results', not the 'OscarWilliams Microstock Poll Results'.
Title: Re: Wont exceed 10 dls today - new lows
Post by: Microstockphoto on May 10, 2017, 01:06
lana, i have thousands of files , photos(most), videos and illustrations, i dont want to give away any details identifying me, agencies are prone to retaliate

anyway, i made exactly 10 dls today

mantis, those big ones used to keep my figures up, theyre also gone now, overall i am down 50% on ss, just like sean.
Title: Re: Wont exceed 10 dls today - new lows
Post by: temis on May 10, 2017, 17:01
I have been on ss for many years but the last two months have been quite bad just a few dls. I am 50% down my average. I am worried and for the moment i have stopped uploading.
Title: Re: Wont exceed 10 dls today - new lows
Post by: sarah2 on May 16, 2017, 11:25
I used to reckon 25 or so DLs per day. Less than 20 was a bad day.
Now I struggle to get 10.
 :(
Title: Re: Wont exceed 10 dls today - new lows
Post by: Mrblues101 on May 16, 2017, 11:33
Yes, me too, important decrease in sales in last months... so... the end is close...
Title: Re: Wont exceed 10 dls today - new lows
Post by: Chichikov on May 16, 2017, 11:35
Here too, this last week d/l became around half what they used to be  :'(
(I have had more sales on Sunday than yesterday [Monday]!!)
Title: Re: Wont exceed 10 dls today - new lows
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on May 16, 2017, 12:20
What's going on and why is Shutterstock rating at 73.1 percent?

Mainly because it's the 'Microstock Poll Results', not the 'OscarWilliams Microstock Poll Results'.

Another factor is that SpaceStockFootage does video. I suspect that the situation with video is not the same as for photos, or illustrations - micro-markets within the overall market for stock imagery.

If the growth is slowing (which it is overall even according to the public numbers) that may be a mix of varying levels of ups and downs across media types and e-commerce vs. enterprise customers.  Given the single earning number on the right, it just can't capture all that (in addition to lots of people not filling out that poll).
Title: Re: Wont exceed 10 dls today - new lows
Post by: Pauws99 on May 16, 2017, 14:41
I have been on ss for many years but the last two months have been quite bad just a few dls. I am 50% down my average. I am worried and for the moment i have stopped uploading.
I'm curious do you still upload elsewhere? Even at lower levels I would have thought it would still be worth uploading to SS in comparison to most sites?
Title: Re: Wont exceed 10 dls today - new lows
Post by: cascoly on May 16, 2017, 16:34
my EL & OD sales have increased on SS, but that means monthly numbers have wild swings of +/- 50% around a 6 mo running average - to be expected with such sales

 overall SS sales are above equivalent range of 6 mo last year; unless you have very high volumes (1000s per month) comparing single weeks or even months is not going to be statistically valid -- too many variables
Title: Re: Wont exceed 10 dls today - new lows
Post by: SpaceStockFootage on May 17, 2017, 00:27
What's going on and why is Shutterstock rating at 73.1 percent?

Mainly because it's the 'Microstock Poll Results', not the 'OscarWilliams Microstock Poll Results'.

Another factor is that SpaceStockFootage does video. I suspect that the situation with video is not the same as for photos, or illustrations - micro-markets within the overall market for stock imagery.

If the growth is slowing (which it is overall even according to the public numbers) that may be a mix of varying levels of ups and downs across media types and e-commerce vs. enterprise customers.  Given the single earning number on the right, it just can't capture all that (in addition to lots of people not filling out that poll).

Absolutely. I get a lot more per sale, but I also get a lot less sales than I would if I had a massive portfolio of images, rather than a small portfolio of videos. My only point was that two people complained about low sales in this thread, and that prompted Oscar (based on having poor sales as well) to feel that the 73.1 rating for Shutterstock was incorrect... even though 158 people filled out the poll.

Yes, as the thread has gone on, more people have posted regarding their sales, but it's still a way off the 158. If 75 or 100 people were saying they'd had really bad sales, then I too would be questioning the score, but there's not a big enough sample size for me to be worried at this point.
Title: Re: Wont exceed 10 dls today - new lows
Post by: derek on May 17, 2017, 00:40
New uploads get absolutely no exposure and its just pot luck if one would sell. Now to me thats worse then a bad days take. Agencies like DT and DP have increased a lot and not to speak of the macro agencies. Might just have something to do with that??
Title: Re: Wont exceed 10 dls today - new lows
Post by: jonbull on May 17, 2017, 07:25
i had a good start of month..then last week is very low..in all agency.
thanks i shoot some in news for dreamstime and i pulled a good amount of dollar with zero work, that keep balance up compared to last year

what surprises me of ss is no matter how i do, uploading much more oriented stock content, like lifestyle model food, i was more travel editorial till march 2016, i cannot move on from the amount of 29 download per day. still i have 25 daily this month, with less than 4000 images and mostly editorial.

i shoot lot of lifestyle content last week. the best i'll keep for when stocksy open again , but i have prepared 1000 good content with model, i hope this will improve sales but i'm not positive. too many images contributor.
Title: Re: Wont exceed 10 dls today - new lows
Post by: Artist on May 18, 2017, 09:06
Very poor sales today, I have not even crossed 20% of the daily I receive.
Title: Re: Wont exceed 10 dls today - new lows
Post by: derek on May 18, 2017, 09:18
johnbull!  SS is just too flooded nowadays and even if you would upload the very best most commercial material in the world it would still be drowned by some 140 million files!  its an unbelievable amount and whats the use of adding to that?   its like throwing petrol over a fire.
Title: Re: Wont exceed 10 dls today - new lows
Post by: melastmohican on May 18, 2017, 09:26
The end is near...
Title: Re: Wont exceed 10 dls today - new lows
Post by: jonbull on May 18, 2017, 14:38
johnbull!  SS is just too flooded nowadays and even if you would upload the very best most commercial material in the world it would still be drowned by some 140 million files!  its an unbelievable amount and whats the use of adding to that?   its like throwing petrol over a fire.

well maybe you are right...but i was selling practically only new files.
i worked in a country where my cost of production are so low and the aultiy of model is so high that for me is a pleasure and anyway good for day to day work. personally this year i'm up to 30 % compared to last year, and i improved this uploading more content oriented towards food and lifestyle.
today i had 48 download in ss. not a lot compared to 2011 2012 but compared to last year more than double the day medium.
Title: Re: Wont exceed 10 dls today - new lows
Post by: sarah2 on May 23, 2017, 02:15
No ELs.
Barely any ODDs.
No SODs over $1.
Record low number of DLs.

This is truly dire...... :(
Title: Re: Wont exceed 10 dls today - new lows
Post by: Steveball on May 23, 2017, 03:27
7 zero days so far this month but I did have my first OD in 2 weeks for 2.70 so it's all fine!
Title: Re: Wont exceed 10 dls today - new lows
Post by: sharpshot on May 23, 2017, 05:03
May last year single and other sales over $300, this year $13 so far.  Such a shame, a few of those big sales a month made a huge difference.
Title: Re: Wont exceed 10 dls today - new lows
Post by: zebra007 on May 23, 2017, 05:46
I have 250k images down 40% for jan 2017 til now :'(
Title: Re: Wont exceed 10 dls today - new lows
Post by: SpaceStockFootage on May 23, 2017, 05:49
Best month ever, over 200% increase on April with a week to go. Probably just a spike though.
Title: Re: Wont exceed 10 dls today - new lows
Post by: Artist on May 23, 2017, 05:50
Best month ever, over 200% increase on April with a week to go. Probably just a spike though.

Even I am seeing BME, though I am getting too many subscription downloads.
Title: Re: Wont exceed 10 dls today - new lows
Post by: sarah2 on May 23, 2017, 12:36
Well that sure makes me feel a lot better......! (sorry - can't find an emoticon for sarcastic)


I note that Artist was bemoaning a 'Very poor sales today, I have not even crossed 20% of the daily I receive'. Guess there's been a massive turnround or else s/he has a port of about 24 pics!

 
Title: Re: Wont exceed 10 dls today - new lows
Post by: Artist on May 23, 2017, 12:43
Well that sure makes me feel a lot better......! (sorry - can't find an emoticon for sarcastic)


I note that Artist was bemoaning a 'Very poor sales today, I have not even crossed 20% of the daily I receive'. Guess there's been a massive turnround or else s/he has a port of about 24 pics!

I have a port of more than 10k design, and yes my monday was worst then I got 3 EL, my luck
Title: Re: Wont exceed 10 dls today - new lows
Post by: DallasP on May 23, 2017, 23:59
These threads are always a bit depressing. On one hand I kind of want to sort, keyword and upload images and hope to get enough to get some monthly payouts ... A few per month alone would cover my fixed costs and everything else is nearly profit but, then I get on msg and start doubting the thought ... The quarters per day aren't really worth it. :/
Title: Re: Wont exceed 10 dls today - new lows
Post by: derek on May 24, 2017, 00:08
The down 40% seems to be the magical number for those being with SS for more then 7 years. The new order it seems. I am not all that bothered since others are making it up but still. :D
Title: Re: Wont exceed 10 dls today - new lows
Post by: Mantis on May 24, 2017, 14:05
The down 40% seems to be the magical number for those being with SS for more then 7 years. The new order it seems. I am not all that bothered since others are making it up but still. :D

I am not down with ss but thats only because i entered video. Without that i would be down about 35-40 percent. Miraculously my ss video makes up 1/3 of my income there. It is a battle for sure to maintain an expected payout amount