Author Topic: Count shut down on Shutterstock - PLEASE HELP (Read 14998 times)

noodle · « **Reply #25 on:** May 22, 2017, 11:02 »

Quote from: unnonimus on May 22, 2017, 09:37

you said: " Who wants to waste time and energy on a potential court case, even if you might win?"

you are completely wrong, and this is a nonsense argument.

any manufactured product in the world, by the definition of the ignorant, is 'copyrighted and trademarked', and therefor it would be illegal to sell any photo with any manufactured product. which means all legal photos would have to be naked people and nature.
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Quote me the relavent rules in Ss TOS that allows this

Your outrageous

BigBubba · « **Reply #26 on:** May 22, 2017, 12:32 »

May I ask...about flags, take the Egyptian national flag...you wanna tell me that everyone drew the same one? My guess is that they all took it from WIkipedia. Is that legit? I'm asking for real, cause if it is, I want a piece of the action.

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Noedelhap · « **Reply #27 on:** May 22, 2017, 13:07 »

Quote from: unnonimus on May 22, 2017, 09:19

the fault is shutterstock.

clearly tracing a photo is a derivative work and falls under "Fair Use" and is not a copyright violation.

this is very very clear in copyright law and has been upheld again and again and again.

tracing a photo is "fair use". "fair use" is a legal term that is specified in copyright law.

you created a new creative work and only used a minimal amount from a previous work. this is 100% legal and falls under fair use.

Yeah, ok. If I ever see you trace one of my images and sell them in your portfolio claiming it's 'fair use', I'll have your account closed. It's not allowed and copyright infringement. Easy as that.

kaboom · « **Reply #28 on:** May 23, 2017, 01:16 »

hard to believe the BS some people are coming with to defend themselves... but that reminds me I should report one thief who traced one of my images to SS. I was postponing it as I dont like reporting but this thread pushed me. Thanks.

SpaceStockFootage · « **Reply #29 on:** May 23, 2017, 03:27 »

Quote from: Liorpt on May 22, 2017, 12:32

May I ask...about flags, take the Egyptian national flag...you wanna tell me that everyone drew the same one? My guess is that they all took it from WIkipedia. Is that legit? I'm asking for real, cause if it is, I want a piece of the action.

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That's slightly differenct, as the flag on Wikipedia is a CC0 image in the public domain. Although one thing to note, maybe not with that image, but with anything tagged as CC0 or being in the public domain... that doesn't necessarily mean it is. For example, somebody other than the author of the work may have uploaded it. Or... I could trace that dudes bulls and tag them as CC0 or public domain, so I'm certifying that anybody can do whatever they want with them, both non-commercially and commercialy (with no need for attribution), but as I've breached the copyright of somebody else then I don't have permission to do that.

I mean, you never know... the Egyptian government might have registered the copyright of the flag, it's still current, and they actively pursue people who use it. I'm sure we would have heard if that was the case, but it's just an example.

So yeah, it's a bit of a minefield... so if you are planning to use any CC0 images, always try and double check they actually are... so you don't get your account shut down further down the line!

ShadySue · « **Reply #30 on:** May 23, 2017, 05:48 »

Quote from: unnonimus on May 22, 2017, 09:37

the original poster was within his legal rights

No, because they signed that they agreed to Shutterstock's Terms of service, which includes, inter alia:
5a. Shutterstock has the right to refuse to accept or to remove Content from the Shutterstock Websites for any reason. Shutterstock will remove Content if Shutterstock believes that such Content may (in Shutterstock's sole discretion) subject Shutterstock ... to legal action or if the Content violates the TOS.

and the Submission and Account Guidelines, which includes, inter alia:
You must own or control the copyright to all content you submit to Shutterstock. This means that you cannot submit work obtained from other sources (e.g., online image search results or websites), or incorporate such work into your content submissions, unless you have permission to do so.
and incidentally:
Public domain content cannot be submitted under any circumstances. If you do not have complete rights to the conent, you may not submit it.

That's their contract. If people don't like it, don't submit there. End of.

BigBubba · « **Reply #31 on:** May 23, 2017, 06:58 »

Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on May 23, 2017, 03:27

Quote from: Liorpt on May 22, 2017, 12:32
May I ask...about flags, take the Egyptian national flag...you wanna tell me that everyone drew the same one? My guess is that they all took it from WIkipedia. Is that legit? I'm asking for real, cause if it is, I want a piece of the action.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

That's slightly differenct, as the flag on Wikipedia is a CC0 image in the public domain. Although one thing to note, maybe not with that image, but with anything tagged as CC0 or being in the public domain... that doesn't necessarily mean it is. For example, somebody other than the author of the work may have uploaded it. Or... I could trace that dudes bulls and tag them as CC0 or public domain, so I'm certifying that anybody can do whatever they want with them, both non-commercially and commercialy (with no need for attribution), but as I've breached the copyright of somebody else then I don't have permission to do that.

I mean, you never know... the Egyptian government might have registered the copyright of the flag, it's still current, and they actively pursue people who use it. I'm sure we would have heard if that was the case, but it's just an example.

So yeah, it's a bit of a minefield... so if you are planning to use any CC0 images, always try and double check they actually are... so you don't get your account shut down further down the line!

Thank you.

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ShadySue · « **Reply #32 on:** May 23, 2017, 07:36 »

Quote from: Liorpt on May 23, 2017, 06:58

Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on May 23, 2017, 03:27
Quote from: Liorpt on May 22, 2017, 12:32
May I ask...about flags, take the Egyptian national flag...you wanna tell me that everyone drew the same one? My guess is that they all took it from WIkipedia. Is that legit? I'm asking for real, cause if it is, I want a piece of the action.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

That's slightly differenct, as the flag on Wikipedia is a CC0 image in the public domain. Although one thing to note, maybe not with that image, but with anything tagged as CC0 or being in the public domain... that doesn't necessarily mean it is. For example, somebody other than the author of the work may have uploaded it. Or... I could trace that dudes bulls and tag them as CC0 or public domain, so I'm certifying that anybody can do whatever they want with them, both non-commercially and commercialy (with no need for attribution), but as I've breached the copyright of somebody else then I don't have permission to do that.

I mean, you never know... the Egyptian government might have registered the copyright of the flag, it's still current, and they actively pursue people who use it. I'm sure we would have heard if that was the case, but it's just an example.

So yeah, it's a bit of a minefield... so if you are planning to use any CC0 images, always try and double check they actually are... so you don't get your account shut down further down the line!
Thank you.

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And note, particularly in relation to Shutterstock, as I copied above, "Public domain content cannot be submitted under any circumstances. If you do not have complete rights to the conent, you may not submit it."

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #33 on:** May 23, 2017, 08:11 »

Quote from: ShadySue on May 23, 2017, 07:36

"Public domain content cannot be submitted under any circumstances. If you do not have complete rights to the content, you may not submit it."

Really? Try typing "NASA image" into the search.....

ShadySue · « **Reply #34 on:** May 23, 2017, 08:19 »

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on May 23, 2017, 08:11

Quote from: ShadySue on May 23, 2017, 07:36
"Public domain content cannot be submitted under any circumstances. If you do not have complete rights to the content, you may not submit it."

Really? Try typing "NASA image" into the search.....

So they don't enforce their own guidelines.

https://www.shutterstock.com/contributorsupport/articles/kbat02/000006656
When it suits them.

Shelma1 · « **Reply #35 on:** May 23, 2017, 09:15 »

They accept images that include elements from NASA as long as your title says some elements have been furnished by NASA. (It's pretty difficult to shoot or sketch a map of the world yourself, unless you're somehow able to go up in space.) I'm not sure why elements from NASA are an exception to the rule, but it's been that way for a while.

Artist · « **Reply #36 on:** May 23, 2017, 21:40 »

Yes, NASA images are exception, though according to their own terms it is not allowed, you still have to mention about it in the title. Did you ever see any person copied silhouette from public domain images and mention the original source in the title?

We are working as per SS terms, use your own created work and stay safe always, is it very difficult? you never know that one fine morning you wake up and see SS has just banned your portfolio.

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