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« Reply #50 on: May 30, 2017, 09:33 »
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i told you,...you want understand?
in ukraine russia producing content is costless....minimum salary is 150 dollar now in ukraine....imagine earning even 400 dollar producing 1000 costless content....or some vector, or space footage.....for many people who live in this country is better earn 400 doing this than go office for less money. this has attracted thousand of contributor from russia thailand ukraine, belarus, including now there are literally hundred of big house producing content financed by man whit money who don't even have a camera but have sense of business.
russia is full of forum of micro stock.

unluck all those commercial block against russia didn't stop the overflowing of content from that country

The trend must be similar for all contributors, regardless of where they live. In 1-2 years most will earn less than they are earning now. Hamster wheel. I wonder why people invest all their efforts into a business that can't be sustainable.


« Reply #51 on: May 30, 2017, 09:34 »
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I'm in Cambodia at the moment, their internet gets routed from Vietnam as far as I'm aware. Had trouble finding an average cost of living price for Italy, but if we go by the average monthly salary of 2083 Euros a month (minimum wage being 1381 Euros for a full time role), I should be just fine on my average income of around 2600 Euros after tax.

Not all of us have access to spacemen etc. Unfortunately.

I think the other issue is 38c v 25c. If you were a company, which would you give priority to in the search? My files which used to sell regularly have simply disappeared off the radar.

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« Reply #52 on: May 30, 2017, 09:39 »
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I'm in Cambodia at the moment, their internet gets routed from Vietnam as far as I'm aware. Had trouble finding an average cost of living price for Italy, but if we go by the average monthly salary of 2083 Euros a month (minimum wage being 1381 Euros for a full time role), I should be just fine on my average income of around 2600 Euros after tax.

Not all of us have access to spacemen etc. Unfortunately.

I think the other issue is 38c v 25c. If you were a company, which would you give priority to in the search? My files which used to sell regularly have simply disappeared off the radar.

i agree.
that's what i said continually. they are favoring new content maker with small portfolio and low payout.

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« Reply #53 on: May 30, 2017, 09:41 »
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i told you,...you want understand?
in ukraine russia producing content is costless....minimum salary is 150 dollar now in ukraine....imagine earning even 400 dollar producing 1000 costless content....or some vector, or space footage.....for many people who live in this country is better earn 400 doing this than go office for less money. this has attracted thousand of contributor from russia thailand ukraine, belarus, including now there are literally hundred of big house producing content financed by man whit money who don't even have a camera but have sense of business.
russia is full of forum of micro stock.

unluck all those commercial block against russia didn't stop the overflowing of content from that country

The trend must be similar for all contributors, regardless of where they live. In 1-2 years most will earn less than they are earning now. Hamster wheel. I wonder why people invest all their efforts into a business that can't be sustainable.

maybe in some years but right now in those county i know people who are happy earning 500 800 dollar and living a decent life. and as i said they enjoy producing content because is pretty easy.
do a search for  model and lifestyle and look for new file. you will see how many are from those part of the world.

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« Reply #54 on: May 30, 2017, 09:43 »
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i told you,...you want understand?
in ukraine russia producing content is costless....minimum salary is 150 dollar now in ukraine....imagine earning even 400 dollar producing 1000 costless content....or some vector, or space footage.....for many people who live in this country is better earn 400 doing this than go office for less money. this has attracted thousand of contributor from russia thailand ukraine, belarus, including now there are literally hundred of big house producing content financed by man whit money who don't even have a camera but have sense of business.
russia is full of forum of micro stock.

unluck all those commercial block against russia didn't stop the overflowing of content from that country

The trend must be similar for all contributors, regardless of where they live. In 1-2 years most will earn less than they are earning now. Hamster wheel. I wonder why people invest all their efforts into a business that can't be sustainable.

so if you to office working 8/24 right now and you earn 300 dollar and there is the chance working much less, enjoying your hobby, earning 500 dollar uploading content...what you will do?
and uploading thousand of content every month will never slow their earning less than 500 dollar.
the growth in content is linked to the spread of microstok in those country.

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« Reply #55 on: May 30, 2017, 09:47 »
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i told you,...you want understand?
in ukraine russia producing content is costless....minimum salary is 150 dollar now in ukraine....imagine earning even 400 dollar producing 1000 costless content....or some vector, or space footage.....for many people who live in this country is better earn 400 doing this than go office for less money. this has attracted thousand of contributor from russia thailand ukraine, belarus, including now there are literally hundred of big house producing content financed by man whit money who don't even have a camera but have sense of business.
russia is full of forum of micro stock.

unluck all those commercial block against russia didn't stop the overflowing of content from that country

The trend must be similar for all contributors, regardless of where they live. In 1-2 years most will earn less than they are earning now. Hamster wheel. I wonder why people invest all their efforts into a business that can't be sustainable.

https://www.shutterstock.com/search?searchterm=top+view+wood&search_source=base_search_form&language=fr&page=1&sort=newest&image_type=all&safe=true

this is a theme popular now, top view of food or still life. cheap cost nothing to produce multiple content.
look the producer. 80% come from russia.
just to say one theme.
search for popular theme. you will see this.

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« Reply #56 on: May 30, 2017, 11:02 »
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I wonder what is going on, who is uploading all those millions of files... The trend is clear, earnings are shrinking, and yet people continue to produce stuff...
Flipping burgers must be more lucrative already for most, and as time goes by, all SS contributors will be better off spending their time flipping burgers than producing content.

The market growth is insignificant, and the image pool grows exponentially. What will happen later, when the value of an average file gets very close to zero?
Will most people stop to produce, will the collection growth slow down? Will freestock become the new microstock, or will macro make a comeback? Will the micros lack good fresh content, in let's say 3 years from now?

For what it's worth, I stopped spending money to produce new content months ago. It just doesn't make sense anymore.

i told you,...you want understand?
in ukraine russia producing content is costless....minimum salary is 150 dollar now in ukraine....imagine earning even 400 dollar producing 1000 costless content....or some vector, or space footage.....for many people who live in this country is better earn 400 doing this than go office for less money. this has attracted thousand of contributor from russia thailand ukraine, belarus, including now there are literally hundred of big house producing content financed by man whit money who don't even have a camera but have sense of business.
russia is full of forum of micro stock.

unluck all those commercial block against russia didn't stop the overflowing of content from that country

Thats it!!  In Russia, Ukraine, Philipines, Poland 10 bucks a day goes a long way so they dont need to work too much but spend their time uploading, uploading and thats it! we who live in much more expensive countries etc cant really do that.

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« Reply #57 on: May 30, 2017, 12:55 »
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I wonder what is going on, who is uploading all those millions of files... The trend is clear, earnings are shrinking, and yet people continue to produce stuff...
Flipping burgers must be more lucrative already for most, and as time goes by, all SS contributors will be better off spending their time flipping burgers than producing content.

The market growth is insignificant, and the image pool grows exponentially. What will happen later, when the value of an average file gets very close to zero?
Will most people stop to produce, will the collection growth slow down? Will freestock become the new microstock, or will macro make a comeback? Will the micros lack good fresh content, in let's say 3 years from now?

For what it's worth, I stopped spending money to produce new content months ago. It just doesn't make sense anymore.

i told you,...you want understand?
in ukraine russia producing content is costless....minimum salary is 150 dollar now in ukraine....imagine earning even 400 dollar producing 1000 costless content....or some vector, or space footage.....for many people who live in this country is better earn 400 doing this than go office for less money. this has attracted thousand of contributor from russia thailand ukraine, belarus, including now there are literally hundred of big house producing content financed by man whit money who don't even have a camera but have sense of business.
russia is full of forum of micro stock.

unluck all those commercial block against russia didn't stop the overflowing of content from that country

Thats it!!  In Russia, Ukraine, Philipines, Poland 10 bucks a day goes a long way so they dont need to work too much but spend their time uploading, uploading and thats it! we who live in much more expensive countries etc cant really do that.

haha personally i love much more ukraine than my europe country...affordable nature lot of girl:) but anybody has its priority...i'm not married i earn enough for my live...

« Reply #58 on: May 31, 2017, 01:59 »
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It seems a bit like when you are approaching a new payment level......things slow down and it takes longer than you thought.
I'm top tier and approaching another milestone. And downloads have reduced to a drip......
:(

« Reply #59 on: May 31, 2017, 02:17 »
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It seems a bit like when you are approaching a new payment level......things slow down and it takes longer than you thought.
I'm top tier and approaching another milestone. And downloads have reduced to a drip......
:(
If you're top tier what milestone is there that would matter to SS?

« Reply #60 on: May 31, 2017, 03:09 »
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Agree to a degree. Just saying. It's odd. Frustrating. Maybe a marker in an algorithm somewhere...who knows.....
Anyway, things are suddenly terrible. Off a cliff. Back to 2013. When I had lots less pics.  :(

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« Reply #61 on: May 31, 2017, 11:10 »
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https://www.shutterstock.com/blog/BBQ-food-photography-tips


bye the way...food photography 5 russian ukraine photographer listed...

if you carefully watch their portfolio...they simply are a copy cat of each other, mostly shooting top view photography, and they are copy cat of other photographer...mostly stuff seen thousand of time, mostly the same photos...practically zero recipe apart some meats and vegetables.
totally a 30000 images pretty similar of food who costed what? 2000 3000 dollar in complex to produce?
multiply this for at least another 10000 contributor from russia and u make 2 3 million food photos of the same stuff, some light, same top view....practically zero recipe cause they can't cook nothing.
the same happen for lifestyle..10000 russian producing same stuff, with mediocre creativity, what 1000000 million images?
let's forget travel?
they end up with an agency of russian contributor with model with typical face feature of that part of the world only.

« Reply #62 on: May 31, 2017, 12:11 »
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bye the way...

Very good photos.

« Reply #63 on: May 31, 2017, 12:31 »
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bye the way...

Very good photos.

Except the sausage with the fiendishly blown highlights.  They  are all of the same style, though.

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« Reply #64 on: May 31, 2017, 12:35 »
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bye the way...


Very good photos.


for who?
for u? maybe for m mediocre i we talk about serious food photography.

http://stockfood.com

here u can see very good professional food photography.
these guy produce amateur photos of food, that cost nothin, penny.
i can go to supermarket and replicate all their portfolio in a week, as most of them simply do this, replicate somebody else portfolio.

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« Reply #65 on: May 31, 2017, 12:39 »
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ok
« Last Edit: May 31, 2017, 12:48 by jonbull »

« Reply #66 on: May 31, 2017, 12:58 »
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for u? maybe for m mediocre i we talk about serious food photography.

http://stockfood.com

here u can see very good professional food photography.
these guy produce amateur photos of food, that cost nothin, penny.
i can go to supermarket and replicate all their portfolio in a week, as most of them simply do this, replicate somebody else portfolio.


Firstly, microstock is meant to be a cheap alternative to high-end stock photography.
Secondly, although most of that stockfood stuff is very good indeed you don't have to go very far into it to find the occasional rubbish shot.


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« Reply #67 on: May 31, 2017, 22:08 »
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they end up with an agency of russian contributor with model with typical face feature of that part of the world only.

A photographer that only shoots models from their part of the world?! How dare they... it just sickens me. You think they'd at least have the common courtesy to fly people in from different parts of the world. What have we come to as a society when I'm forced to look at images and footage of people from different parts of the world... it's just not right. 

« Reply #68 on: May 31, 2017, 22:31 »
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https://www.shutterstock.com/blog/BBQ-food-photography-tips


bye the way...food photography 5 russian ukraine photographer listed...

if you carefully watch their portfolio...they simply are a copy cat of each other, mostly shooting top view photography, and they are copy cat of other photographer...mostly stuff seen thousand of time, mostly the same photos...practically zero recipe apart some meats and vegetables.
totally a 30000 images pretty similar of food who costed what? 2000 3000 dollar in complex to produce?
multiply this for at least another 10000 contributor from russia and u make 2 3 million food photos of the same stuff, some light, same top view....practically zero recipe cause they can't cook nothing.
the same happen for lifestyle..10000 russian producing same stuff, with mediocre creativity, what 1000000 million images?
let's forget travel?
they end up with an agency of russian contributor with model with typical face feature of that part of the world only.

It doesn't matter where they're from. Nearly every photo is somewhat identical to another. Portraits? Seen the same poses hundreds of times. Food? Same. Fruits & Vegetables? Same isolated images. Travel? Already saw 100 shots of the same angle of the Statue of Liberty. Healthcare? I've seen over 10,000 photos with doctors treating patients. How about a email icon? Seen that 100,000 times already.

There is very little uniqueness these days. Even Apple is copying everyone and everything. What's important is that you have to do it better than everyone else. If you have such unique stuff, you should be doing fine instead of complaining about contributors from all over the world.
« Last Edit: May 31, 2017, 22:33 by Minsc »

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« Reply #69 on: June 01, 2017, 07:42 »
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they end up with an agency of russian contributor with model with typical face feature of that part of the world only.

A photographer that only shoots models from their part of the world?! How dare they... it just sickens me. You think they'd at least have the common courtesy to fly people in from different parts of the world. What have we come to as a society when I'm forced to look at images and footage of people from different parts of the world... it's just not right.


I didnt say this...but is impossible to talkwith spaceman. I said that in some year to find a lifestyle of good quality with an american man typical you will need to go throug 100 million of photo of russian man. And cause i live in this part of the world, yes the man have different face than italy or france.

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« Reply #70 on: June 01, 2017, 07:46 »
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https://www.shutterstock.com/blog/BBQ-food-photography-tips


bye the way...food photography 5 russian ukraine photographer listed...

if you carefully watch their portfolio...they simply are a copy cat of each other, mostly shooting top view photography, and they are copy cat of other photographer...mostly stuff seen thousand of time, mostly the same photos...practically zero recipe apart some meats and vegetables.
totally a 30000 images pretty similar of food who costed what? 2000 3000 dollar in complex to produce?
multiply this for at least another 10000 contributor from russia and u make 2 3 million food photos of the same stuff, some light, same top view....practically zero recipe cause they can't cook nothing.
the same happen for lifestyle..10000 russian producing same stuff, with mediocre creativity, what 1000000 million images?
let's forget travel?
they end up with an agency of russian contributor with model with typical face feature of that part of the world only.

It doesn't matter where they're from. Nearly every photo is somewhat identical to another. Portraits? Seen the same poses hundreds of times. Food? Same. Fruits & Vegetables? Same isolated images. Travel? Already saw 100 shots of the same angle of the Statue of Liberty. Healthcare? I've seen over 10,000 photos with doctors treating patients. How about a email icon? Seen that 100,000 times already.

There is very little uniqueness these days. Even Apple is copying everyone and everything. What's important is that you have to do it better than everyone else. If you have such unique stuff, you should be doing fine instead of complaining about contributors from all over the world.


It matters. Becauese if u need 500 dollar to survive u can produce millions junks evry day, and spam with 1000 portrait.
Spam has begun in eastern europe in any category. Thats why we pass from 12 million images to 150. I produce good stuff but it ss bjried by this crap coming mostly, are u happy, from russia thailand and ukraine. I did a sport theme session last week, after i uploaded in less than 24 hours it was buried in page 12 , in the first 12 pages 90% of photos were made by russian ukraine belarus thai photographer. So if u dont have lucj to sell the filein the moment u got accepted u need years for him to be discovered

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« Reply #71 on: June 01, 2017, 07:47 »
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they end up with an agency of russian contributor with model with typical face feature of that part of the world only.

A photographer that only shoots models from their part of the world?! How dare they... it just sickens me. You think they'd at least have the common courtesy to fly people in from different parts of the world. What have we come to as a society when I'm forced to look at images and footage of people from different parts of the world... it's just not right.

I said this? U rae not a phtog understand? Why you talk of somthing u dont understand?

« Reply #72 on: June 01, 2017, 08:07 »
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Not all of us have access to spacemen etc. Unfortunately.

Actually, you do. It's all public domain from NASA.

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« Reply #73 on: June 01, 2017, 08:09 »
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Not all of us have access to spacemen etc. Unfortunately.

Actually, you do. It's all public domain from NASA.

Yes?

« Reply #74 on: June 01, 2017, 08:10 »
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I can't be the only one who doesn't find it strange that there are lots of contributors from the 9th biggest population in the world?


 

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