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Title: Bad Mouthing MSG
Post by: WarrenPrice on March 27, 2011, 10:15
http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=103174 (http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=103174)

Extreme caution: Be aware of theft and scams perpetrated by MicroStock Group forum.

I had 800 thumbnail size photos stolen and distributed by this group. They cruise forums looking for easy prey. Do not respond to their emails or queries. Do not give them facebook or flikr information.

I was accused of stealing someone's photo and they wanted a cash settlement. It was so ridiculous because I only do Computer Generated images.

One of these crooks even said a commonly available open source 3D model was his was demanding payment for CG images based on free modified Blender models.

Listen up you thieving lying POS:

Image: 57600109

I made it. It's 100% CG. I have all the original Cinema4D files.


Poster was "Canadafirst."  Thought someone might want to take exception to this post at Shutterstock.  I did.
Title: Re: Bad Mouthing MSG
Post by: elvinstar on March 27, 2011, 10:28
Isn't Canadafirst our new favorite RedScarlet? Probably trying a CYA because they got busted stealing images!
Title: Re: Bad Mouthing MSG
Post by: Blufish on March 27, 2011, 10:36
What an a$$. Hope SS shuts him down quickly on Monday
Title: Re: Bad Mouthing MSG
Post by: Starbucks on March 27, 2011, 10:48
Someone with a ShutterStock account, please post this information:

On CanadaFirst's LinkedIn profile, they list themselves as "Semi professional disinformation consultant", aka a liar. The avatar on his profile is actually also one of the alleged stolen images. Lists himself as owner of stockphoto4free.com.

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/canada-first/23/710/732 (http://www.linkedin.com/pub/canada-first/23/710/732)

Google cache of page in case he deletes information:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Kf7kDjYZBUkJ:ca.linkedin.com/pub/canada-first/23/710/732+stockphoto4free.com+linkedin&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Kf7kDjYZBUkJ:ca.linkedin.com/pub/canada-first/23/710/732+stockphoto4free.com+linkedin&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com)

I'm getting a little tired of this person, and they aren't very good at spreading disinformation.
Title: Re: Bad Mouthing MSG
Post by: aeonf on March 27, 2011, 11:51
What a loser !!!
Title: Re: Bad Mouthing MSG
Post by: madelaide on March 27, 2011, 11:56
I'm reporting this to Leaf through the site. I'm sure SS will let him give an official reply.
Title: Re: Bad Mouthing MSG
Post by: loop on March 27, 2011, 12:04
I began to feel sorry for this little thing. I'm sure that it should be possible to be a thief without being stupid as well.
Title: Re: Bad Mouthing MSG
Post by: caspixel on March 27, 2011, 12:05
Wow. what is wrong with this person?
Title: Re: Bad Mouthing MSG
Post by: ThomasAmby on March 27, 2011, 12:13
I can't figure out why anyone would want to behave like that. What's the gain?!?
Title: Re: Bad Mouthing MSG
Post by: gostwyck on March 27, 2011, 12:23
I see he's deleted the images containing stolen work from his SS port;

http://www.shutterstock.com/gallery-232681p1.html (http://www.shutterstock.com/gallery-232681p1.html)

Of course by doing so he's effectively confessed to the crime anyway. I think he'll find the rest of his portfolio will have disappeared too by close of play Monday.
Title: Re: Bad Mouthing MSG
Post by: caspixel on March 27, 2011, 12:29
I can't figure out why anyone would want to behave like that. What's the gain?!?

Especially when he's clearly guilty.
Title: Re: Bad Mouthing MSG
Post by: gostwyck on March 27, 2011, 12:37
I can't figure out why anyone would want to behave like that. What's the gain?!?

Especially when he's clearly guilty.

Well, at least he's got his '$5000 per month' income to rely on. Not.
Title: Re: Bad Mouthing MSG
Post by: lisafx on March 27, 2011, 12:46
This is great entertainment :)

Priceless.  He links to this site where apparently we are supposed to believe that the woman in the keyhole is 100% computer generated from the supplied CG model?
http://quinetiam.com/?p=537 (http://quinetiam.com/?p=537)

Instead of from this stolen image:

http://www.fotolia.com/id/10955734 (http://www.fotolia.com/id/10955734)

BTW, just would like to say how proud I am to be a member of this merry band of thugs ;)
Title: Re: Bad Mouthing MSG
Post by: leaf on March 27, 2011, 13:00
I'm reporting this to Leaf through the site. I'm sure Shutterstock will let him give an official reply.


I don't know much more than anyone else - except that it is most certainly the same RedScarlet user that was here in this thread
http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/how-i-went-from-$100-to-$5000-month/ (http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/how-i-went-from-$100-to-$5000-month/)

He was banned from the forum at the same time I locked the thread.  Now he has taken his ranting to the Shutterstock forum and included MSG on his hit list.  ::)  I can't imagine he'll last long their either, but I guess we'l see how Shutterstock handles it.

In regards to his accusations ... I don't really feel he is serious enough to respond to... but I'll oblige just the same.

Neither I, nor MSG as a website have sent him any emails, except his confirmation email when he signed up and any private message he received from members.

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They steal personal information from accounts. Anybody who dares reveal this is immediately banned.

No, no 'personal information' was stolen or abused.  I can see his email and IP address, but as with any member these are not shared with anyone.  Yes, even delinquent member's information is kept confidential.  It is true however that he was banned

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Extreme caution: Be aware of theft and scams perpetrated by MicroStock Group forum.

I had 800 thumbnail size photos stolen and distributed by this group. They cruise forums looking for easy prey. Do not respond to their emails or queries. Do not give them facebook or flikr information.

I was accused of stealing someone's photo and they wanted a cash settlement. It was so ridiculous because I only do Computer Generated images.

One of these crooks even said a commonly available open source 3D model was his was demanding payment for CG images based on free modified Blender models.

Listen up you thieving lying POS:

Image: 57600109


It looks like he was in an email exchange with one of the members here (may or may not be true) from the original thread (http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/how-i-went-from-$100-to-$5000-month/).  His images did have elements (http://www.shutterstock.com/gallery-ugwoeii.html#id=57600112) taken from other's photos (http://www.shutterstock.com/gallery-ugwoeii.html#id=16204483) so I can't blame those members for being upset and taking him to task, which was why the Shutterstock thread was started in the first place.

... and no MSG did not steal 800 thumbnails, or try to steal any flickr, facebook, or twitter accounts  ::)

anything else I need to respond to?
Title: Re: Bad Mouthing MSG
Post by: BaldricksTrousers on March 27, 2011, 13:04
What fun! I really enjoyed his last thread. Now he's gone off in a tizzy because he dug his own grave and then shot himself in the head. Priceless.
Title: Re: Bad Mouthing MSG
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on March 27, 2011, 13:08
Geez, what a crybaby.  There's probably something mentally wrong with him.
Title: Re: Bad Mouthing MSG
Post by: aeonf on March 27, 2011, 13:11
I just looked at his SS port, I wouldn't be suprized if the rest of the photos are also partially stolen...
And OT: do SS accpet every piece of crap thrown at them ?!?
Title: Re: Bad Mouthing MSG
Post by: caspixel on March 27, 2011, 13:12
This is great entertainment :)

Priceless.  He links to this site where apparently we are supposed to believe that the woman in the keyhole is 100% computer generated from the supplied CG model?
[url]http://quinetiam.com/?p=537[/url] ([url]http://quinetiam.com/?p=537[/url])

Instead of from this stolen image:

[url]http://www.fotolia.com/id/10955734[/url] ([url]http://www.fotolia.com/id/10955734[/url])

BTW, just would like to say how proud I am to be a member of this merry band of thugs ;)


He's using that same stolen keyhole woman as his avatar on Linkedin. What an utter moron.
Title: Re: Bad Mouthing MSG
Post by: cathyslife on March 27, 2011, 13:15
This is great entertainment :)

Priceless.  He links to this site where apparently we are supposed to believe that the woman in the keyhole is 100% computer generated from the supplied CG model?
[url]http://quinetiam.com/?p=537[/url] ([url]http://quinetiam.com/?p=537[/url])

Instead of from this stolen image:

[url]http://www.fotolia.com/id/10955734[/url] ([url]http://www.fotolia.com/id/10955734[/url])

BTW, just would like to say how proud I am to be a member of this merry band of thugs ;)


Me, too. I love when this merry band of thugs (us here at MSG) takes the time to research and rat out the rats. Where do these people come from and why do they think everyone is stupid? Rhetorical question.  :D
Title: Re: Bad Mouthing MSG
Post by: caspixel on March 27, 2011, 13:16
Did anyone happen to notice his devil and speedometer image have been removed from Shutterstock?
Title: Re: Bad Mouthing MSG
Post by: cathyslife on March 27, 2011, 13:24
Did anyone happen to notice his devil and speedometer image have been removed from Shutterstock?

Yeah, apparently he's taking a lot of stuff down. Gee, wonder why. Snippets from "canadafirst"  on the SS thread:
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I had 800 thumbnail size photos stolen and distributed by this group. They cruise forums looking for easy prey. Do not respond to their emails or queries. Do not give them facebook or flikr information.

I was accused of stealing someone's photo and they wanted a cash settlement. It was so ridiculous because I only do Computer Generated images.

One of these crooks even said a commonly available open source 3D model was his was demanding payment for CG images based on free modified Blender models.

Listen up you thieving lying POS:

Image: 57600109

I made it. It's 100% CG. I have all the original Cinema4D files.

AND THIS:


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I shut down 2 image hosting accounts, changed paypal info, canceled social media accounts. The crooks from this forum try to get into everything.

Too much fun ratting out the thieves!
Title: Re: Bad Mouthing MSG
Post by: Microbius on March 27, 2011, 14:37
If you read some of his blog posts it suddenly seems possible that he might actually believe the craziness he's spewing on the SS forum. cookoo
Title: Re: Bad Mouthing MSG
Post by: LSD72 on March 27, 2011, 15:03
Parents: this is a prime example of why you need to watch what your kids are doing on the interweb.  :D
Title: Re: Bad Mouthing MSG
Post by: Pixart on March 27, 2011, 16:11
I heard from a very reliable source that Charlie Sheen shoots a little micro on the side.
Title: Re: Bad Mouthing MSG
Post by: caspixel on March 27, 2011, 16:12
I heard from a very reliable source that Charlie Sheen shoots a little micro on the side.
:D :D

If ScarletAttentionWhore says "WINNING" we know he's outed himself.
Title: Re: Bad Mouthing MSG
Post by: elvinstar on March 27, 2011, 16:45
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I heard from a very reliable source that Charlie Sheen shoots a little micro on the side.


(http://cameraclash.com/images/s/rofl.gif)(http://cameraclash.com/images/s/rofl.gif)(http://cameraclash.com/images/s/rofl.gif)
Title: Re: Bad Mouthing MSG
Post by: visceralimage on March 27, 2011, 17:15
This moron needs serious help!
Title: Re: Bad Mouthing MSG
Post by: lisafx on March 27, 2011, 17:21
I heard from a very reliable source that Charlie Sheen shoots a little micro on the side.

ROFL!  Perfect!!
Title: Re: Bad Mouthing MSG
Post by: RacePhoto on March 27, 2011, 22:50
This person is just trolling for page hits and links to his sites. Then he auctions the site with pumped up stats. What's funny was the so called auction of one site having free photos in the name, was supposedly completed, but the site doesn't exist. He has all hidden registrations and multiple sites, linked to each other or sourcing data from feeds. In other words, it's all a scam for page hits and links.

Also if a buyer takes a look and isn't a complete idiot, they will see that the site is not as active as the stat machines may think. In stocks it's called pump and dump. Like the people who sell penny stocks, go out and post hot tips all over the web, after they buy some. When it goes up because the suckers think it's a real boom and tip, they dump the stock and the people who got conned, own worthless paper.

Same with pumping up a website stats using sites to sites, controversial news feeds, youtube links "ScarletWhore" RedScarlet, Canadafirst and other names, and sites, to lead people to the sites destined to be sold. Whoknows how many of the keyholes are stolen images and how many of his Shutterstock images are borrowed.

(http://www.shutterstock.com/pic.mhtml?id=57600112) with the stolen content in the keyhole has been removed, but the Shutterstock link still exists.

Point is, even if he writes complete lies about this site. Including a ridiculous claim that someone would actually want to steal his thumbnails (which are what? CRAP!) He then has links, that will direct traffic to his sites, and for that reason alone, the bast way to deal with him is report to Shutterstock and ignore. :D

Any views are just helping him with his Spam Scam

What's the over/under on his SS account?
Title: Re: Bad Mouthing MSG
Post by: SNP on March 27, 2011, 23:30
I'm late coming in about this creep. just saw the other comments from redscarlet in the income thread. bizarre, not to mention the blatant theft. I would have thought that today it was easier to track someone's IP address down or something. hope not too many of you were affected.
Title: Re: Bad Mouthing MSG
Post by: lagereek on March 28, 2011, 00:43
This must surely be the price idiot of the centuary.
Title: Re: Bad Mouthing MSG
Post by: ShadySue on March 28, 2011, 06:28
The things I'm learning on this group. I'd never heard of click-trolling before; and now I guess I have to Google "Charlie Sheen".
Title: Re: Bad Mouthing MSG
Post by: ProArtwork on March 28, 2011, 07:05
So now he's promoting MSG forums!  ;D
Title: Re: Bad Mouthing MSG
Post by: cathyslife on March 28, 2011, 07:09
The sad part about it is that he/she will probably disappear off the radar and never be punished for anything.  >:(
Title: Re: Bad Mouthing MSG
Post by: Phil on March 28, 2011, 07:20
The things I'm learning on this group. I'd never heard of click-trolling before; and now I guess I have to Google "Charlie Sheen".


yeah, what is with all the Charlie Sheen stuff? I did a little reading, in and out of detox, lives with a pornstar or two or three, smashed a hotel because a prostitute stole his money, seems not the sharpest tool in the shed, but I am still a bit lost at the rest of it.

My kids have joined in all the chuck norris stuff

http://www.thechucknorrisfacts.com/ (http://www.thechucknorrisfacts.com/)
Title: Re: Bad Mouthing MSG
Post by: ShadySue on March 28, 2011, 07:38
What's all this _ Educate Liz Day? Now I had to Google Chuck Norris.
Of course, I typed in Chick Norris, but Google Knew.
Some American rightwing fundamentalist?
Title: Re: Bad Mouthing MSG
Post by: leaf on March 28, 2011, 07:48
What's all this _ Educate Liz Day? Now I had to Google Chuck Norris.
Of course, I typed in Chick Norris, but Google Knew.
Some American rightwing fundamentalist?


you should rather do a youtube search for chuck norris
Bruce Lee vs. Chuck Norris (FULL) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfGiIg8kHbw#ws)

Chuck Norris fights Karate Taekwondo (1 fight vs Joe Lewis) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz4gkRmSVzE#)
Title: Re: Bad Mouthing MSG
Post by: jbarber873 on March 28, 2011, 08:58
    When Chuck Norris does push-ups, he doesn't go up, the world moves down.
Title: Re: Bad Mouthing MSG
Post by: Xalanx on March 28, 2011, 10:31
    When Chuck Norris does push-ups, he doesn't go up, the world moves down.

just spilled my coffee...

you owe me a new keyboard.
Title: Re: Bad Mouthing MSG
Post by: Elenathewise on March 28, 2011, 11:27
OMG, I DID NOT want to see Chuck's hairy torso THAT close.
Leaf, that's mean, you should have posted that with a warning!
Title: Re: Bad Mouthing MSG
Post by: Anita Potter on March 28, 2011, 14:28
I just looked at his Shutterstock port, I wouldn't be suprized if the rest of the photos are also partially stolen...
And OT: do Shutterstock accpet every piece of crap thrown at them ?!?

Nope.  I threw some crap at them last week and they rejected it ;)
Title: Re: Bad Mouthing MSG
Post by: jbarber873 on March 28, 2011, 14:59
    When Chuck Norris does push-ups, he doesn't go up, the world moves down.

just spilled my coffee...

you owe me a new keyboard.

   and you're sending chuck norris to collect!  :o
Title: Re: Bad Mouthing MSG
Post by: Phil on March 28, 2011, 15:06
What's all this _ Educate Liz Day? Now I had to Google Chuck Norris.
Of course, I typed in Chick Norris, but Google Knew.
Some American rightwing fundamentalist?

I had to explain to them that chuck norris is an actual person, even after 6 months of comments like on the link - China used to be next the US until Chuck kicked it to the other side of the world  ??? - they didnt realise that he is an actual person.
Title: Re: Bad Mouthing MSG
Post by: LSD72 on March 28, 2011, 16:51
The thread on SS is gone. I am not sure if Canadafirst and its AWESOME port is gone though.  :P
Title: Re: Bad Mouthing MSG
Post by: gostwyck on March 28, 2011, 16:58
The thread on Shutterstock is gone. I am not sure if Canadafirst and its AWESOME port is gone though.  :P

His port is still 'there' ... but if you click on an image it is 'Temporarily Unavailable' ... forever and ever. Oh dear. How sad. Never mind.
Title: Re: Bad Mouthing MSG
Post by: cathyslife on March 28, 2011, 18:44
The thread on Shutterstock is gone. I am not sure if Canadafirst and its AWESOME port is gone though.  :P

His port is still 'there' ... but if you click on an image it is 'Temporarily Unavailable' ... forever and ever. Oh dear. How sad. Never mind.

At least they are investigating.
Title: Re: Bad Mouthing MSG
Post by: djpadavona on March 28, 2011, 22:07
yeah, what is with all the Charlie Sheen stuff? I did a little reading, in and out of detox, lives with a pornstar or two or three, smashed a hotel because a prostitute stole his money, seems not the sharpest tool in the shed, but I am still a bit lost at the rest of it.
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The Wild Thing was one of the greatest Closers in Cleveland Indians history.  Maybe he needs new glasses.
Title: Re: Bad Mouthing MSG
Post by: RacePhoto on March 29, 2011, 00:34
The thread on Shutterstock is gone. I am not sure if Canadafirst and its AWESOME port is gone though.  :P


But he's still around with the same spam and scam tactics. 72 photos, who knows who the real artist is or if these are alterations. The pyramid says 3d rendering.  :)

http://www.bigstockphoto.com/profile/CanadaFirst (http://www.bigstockphoto.com/profile/CanadaFirst)

(http://www.spiderpic.com/thumbnail?url=http://static.bigstockphoto.com/thumbs/1/4/3/large/3415847.jpg)

Comes up on spiderpics as fotolia (missing) and Dreamstime but it's also missing?

Same pictures everywhere.
Title: Re: Bad Mouthing MSG
Post by: caspixel on March 29, 2011, 00:41
How did that crap get accepted anywhere.  I thought all the agencies had much tighter standards. His renders suck and those keyhole images are garbage (well, not the stolen parts).
Title: Re: Bad Mouthing MSG
Post by: BaldricksTrousers on March 29, 2011, 05:46
Since Bigstock belongs to SS it would be surprising if they forgot to take it down there, too.