Author Topic: Confirmed Identities on MSG (trial for a month?) (Read 49909 times)

falstafff · « **Reply #275 on:** May 31, 2013, 02:45 »

Quote from: JPSDK on May 31, 2013, 02:34

Until this debate I didnt care about anonymity. I thought it was OK and people had their good reasons. I was more concerned about the behaviour of some individuals.

Now things have polarized and the disadvantages of anonymity have come forewards:

1...As well as you can hide from the agencies and tax people, they can also hide from you.
2...Certain individuals slide to the dark side.
3...The forum becomes a lot less trustworthy, providing mostly hear say, guesses and false accusations.
4...The forums can be used to make and spread a spin on a story. We think we have a debate, but it might as well be, that it is a spin brought public by agents with economical interests.

Its true!! you are a boorish oaf, on and on and on, complaining.

JPSDK · « **Reply #276 on:** May 31, 2013, 02:58 »

Quote from: rubyroo on May 31, 2013, 02:43

No doubt all those things are true for SOME people. My point is that not ALL anonymous posters are anonymous for devious reasons, and it's really unpleasant that the issue has been generalised to the point that it has.

Of course it is not all people. Its probably only a few who have dubious interests.

rubyroo · « **Reply #277 on:** May 31, 2013, 03:02 »

Thanks, and I think I misinterpreted a part of your previous post as being more accusatory than it was on a second reading, for which I apologise.

But I hope you can understand that a lot of posts that have been made by various people are lumping all anons together as devious scumbags. That's really not a nice thing to hear when your only reason to be here has been to be a (hopefully) constructive member in an enjoyable community of shared interests.

JPSDK · « **Reply #278 on:** May 31, 2013, 03:19 »

Quote from: falstafff on May 31, 2013, 02:45

Quote from: JPSDK on May 31, 2013, 02:34
Until this debate I didnt care about anonymity. I thought it was OK and people had their good reasons. I was more concerned about the behaviour of some individuals.

Now things have polarized and the disadvantages of anonymity have come forewards:

1...As well as you can hide from the agencies and tax people, they can also hide from you.
2...Certain individuals slide to the dark side.
3...The forum becomes a lot less trustworthy, providing mostly hear say, guesses and false accusations.
4...The forums can be used to make and spread a spin on a story. We think we have a debate, but it might as well be, that it is a spin brought public by agents with economical interests.

Its true!! you are a boorish oaf, on and on and on, complaining.

Is that complaining? I think it adds value to the debate and is rather constructive.
Whereas your post has just proven my point.

Did you feel that you fell into one of the categories? Was it that?

JPSDK · « **Reply #279 on:** May 31, 2013, 03:26 »

Quote from: rubyroo on May 31, 2013, 03:02

Thanks, and I think I misinterpreted a part of your previous post as being more accusatory than it was on a second reading, for which I apologise.

But I hope you can understand that a lot of posts that have been made by various people are lumping all anons together as devious scumbags. That's really not a nice thing to hear when your only reason to be here has been to be a (hopefully) constructive member in an enjoyable community of shared interests.

Ruby...
Well look at the posts around you. Thats a consequence. You can be ever so nice, and have all the good intents in the world, but it does not take many to polute the gutter. Then also the nice people like you have to swimm in it.
I dont think its worth it.

ShadySue · « **Reply #280 on:** May 31, 2013, 03:36 »

Some people have cited the anodyne quality of the new Alamy forums as what this will become if anonymity is removed. I couldn't say, as I haven't signed up yet, but probably will tomorrow to see how other people's month was there.
However, one of the most ignorant, annoying posters there, a rabid anti-micro tog who posted all sorts of half-truths about iS and SS [1], but ran home crying if anyone tried to put him right, accusing them of foul play, was not anonymous.
[1] i.e. he'd venture onto iS or SS's forum every few months, then quote one post or even part of a post to back up some point he was making, with no interest in the context.

JPSDK · « **Reply #281 on:** May 31, 2013, 03:49 »

Oh yes, him we know. He rants on micros abouts the macros and opposite, and has an affinity to sports cars ( rusty saab) and Swedish castles (wooden house in Väksjö).

He has a whole nick building factory that produces his many split personalities.

fotografer · « **Reply #282 on:** May 31, 2013, 04:53 »

Quote from: CD123 on May 30, 2013, 17:19

(lot of kiss @sses......)

Well none of the anonymous people are kiss A***s as being anonymous takes away the whole point of kissing A**

Mantis · « **Reply #283 on:** May 31, 2013, 04:58 »

Quote from: fotografer on May 31, 2013, 04:53

Quote from: CD123 on May 30, 2013, 17:19
(lot of kiss @sses......)

Well none of the anonymous people are kiss A***s as being anonymous takes away the whole point of kissing A**

Good point. I wonder if posting tone would change if public posters went anonymous under a new name?

CD123 · « **Reply #284 on:** May 31, 2013, 04:59 »

Quote from: fotografer on May 31, 2013, 04:53

Quote from: CD123 on May 30, 2013, 17:19
(lot of kiss @sses......)

Well none of the anonymous people are kiss A***s as being anonymous takes away the whole point of kissing A**

True. Replace with "(plus hunters)

"

fotografer · « **Reply #285 on:** May 31, 2013, 05:02 »

Quote from: CD123 on May 31, 2013, 04:59

Quote from: fotografer on May 31, 2013, 04:53
Quote from: CD123 on May 30, 2013, 17:19
(lot of kiss @sses......)

Well none of the anonymous people are kiss A***s as being anonymous takes away the whole point of kissing A**

True. Replace with "(plus hunters) "

Ok I'll take that

Actually as far as giving pluses or minuses go we are all anonymous

cobalt · « **Reply #286 on:** May 31, 2013, 05:10 »

Quote from: fotografer on May 31, 2013, 05:02

Ok I'll take that Actually as far as giving pluses or minuses go we are all anonymous

I would think that leaf can see all.....

fotografer · « **Reply #287 on:** May 31, 2013, 05:15 »

Quote from: cobalt on May 31, 2013, 05:10

Quote from: fotografer on May 31, 2013, 05:02
Ok I'll take that Actually as far as giving pluses or minuses go we are all anonymous

I would think that leaf can see all.....

Yes I believe he can at least I hope so.

Poncke v2 · « **Reply #288 on:** May 31, 2013, 05:38 »

Quote from: fotografer on May 31, 2013, 05:15

Quote from: cobalt on May 31, 2013, 05:10
Quote from: fotografer on May 31, 2013, 05:02
Ok I'll take that Actually as far as giving pluses or minuses go we are all anonymous

I would think that leaf can see all.....
Yes I believe he can at least I hope so.

He can, I know

leaf · « **Reply #289 on:** May 31, 2013, 06:23 »

Quote from: fotografer on May 31, 2013, 05:15

Quote from: cobalt on May 31, 2013, 05:10
Quote from: fotografer on May 31, 2013, 05:02
Ok I'll take that Actually as far as giving pluses or minuses go we are all anonymous

I would think that leaf can see all.....
Yes I believe he can at least I hope so.

Yeah, I can easily see who has voted on a post, but can't see who voted + or - unless I look at the mysql database or unless there is only one vote and then it is obvious.

YadaYadaYada · « **Reply #290 on:** May 31, 2013, 07:47 »

Quote from: JPSDK on May 31, 2013, 02:34

Until this debate I didnt care about anonymity. I thought it was OK and people had their good reasons. I was more concerned about the behaviour of some individuals.

Now things have polarized and the disadvantages of anonymity have come forewards:

1...As well as you can hide from the agencies and tax people, they can also hide from you.
2...Certain individuals slide to the dark side.
3...The forum becomes a lot less trustworthy, providing mostly hear say, guesses and false accusations.
4...The forums can be used to make and spread a spin on a story. We think we have a debate, but it might as well be, that it is a spin brought public by agents with economical interests.

24 billion people use the internet with real names and the world of msg will cause people to leave because they can't be anonymous. Fear is not a reason its an excuse. Anonymous can make false claims and flase accusations. Anonymous can be an agency come here to watch us just as much as we can be private. I want to know who I'm writing to and who I'm reading from.

Poncke v2 · « **Reply #291 on:** May 31, 2013, 07:54 »

Quote from: YadaYadaYada on May 31, 2013, 07:47

Quote from: JPSDK on May 31, 2013, 02:34
Until this debate I didnt care about anonymity. I thought it was OK and people had their good reasons. I was more concerned about the behaviour of some individuals.

Now things have polarized and the disadvantages of anonymity have come forewards:

1...As well as you can hide from the agencies and tax people, they can also hide from you.
2...Certain individuals slide to the dark side.
3...The forum becomes a lot less trustworthy, providing mostly hear say, guesses and false accusations.
4...The forums can be used to make and spread a spin on a story. We think we have a debate, but it might as well be, that it is a spin brought public by agents with economical interests.

24 billion people use the internet with real names and the world of msg will cause people to leave because they can't be anonymous. Fear is not a reason its an excuse. Anonymous can make false claims and flase accusations. Anonymous can be an agency come here to watch us just as much as we can be private. I want to know who I'm writing to and who I'm reading from.

?? You are anonymous yourself? Weird statement.

Mantis · « **Reply #292 on:** May 31, 2013, 08:28 »

Quote from: Poncke v2 on May 31, 2013, 07:54

Quote from: YadaYadaYada on May 31, 2013, 07:47
Quote from: JPSDK on May 31, 2013, 02:34
Until this debate I didnt care about anonymity. I thought it was OK and people had their good reasons. I was more concerned about the behaviour of some individuals.

Now things have polarized and the disadvantages of anonymity have come forewards:

1...As well as you can hide from the agencies and tax people, they can also hide from you.
2...Certain individuals slide to the dark side.
3...The forum becomes a lot less trustworthy, providing mostly hear say, guesses and false accusations.
4...The forums can be used to make and spread a spin on a story. We think we have a debate, but it might as well be, that it is a spin brought public by agents with economical interests.

24 billion people use the internet with real names and the world of msg will cause people to leave because they can't be anonymous. Fear is not a reason its an excuse. Anonymous can make false claims and flase accusations. Anonymous can be an agency come here to watch us just as much as we can be private. I want to know who I'm writing to and who I'm reading from.
?? You are anonymous yourself? Weird statement.

He meant everybody BUT him.

Poncke v2 · « **Reply #293 on:** May 31, 2013, 09:08 »

Hmm, Rubyroo left as well. It is not even implemented yet, but already loads of people dropping off.

So far left Matt Dixon, Rubyroo, Microbius, Vlad the Imp, Michealo,

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #294 on:** May 31, 2013, 09:20 »

Quote from: YadaYadaYada on May 31, 2013, 07:47

24 billion people use the internet with real names and the world of msg will cause people to leave because they can't be anonymous. Fear is not a reason its an excuse. Anonymous can make false claims and flase accusations. Anonymous can be an agency come here to watch us just as much as we can be private. I want to know who I'm writing to and who I'm reading from.

At least 17 billion of them must be deceiving you with false names, since there are only seven billion people on Earth.

click_click · « **Reply #295 on:** May 31, 2013, 09:26 »

Quote from: Poncke v2 on May 31, 2013, 09:08

Hmm, Rubyroo left as well. It is not even implemented yet, but already loads of people dropping off.

So far left Matt Dixon, Rubyroo, Microbius, Vlad the Imp, Michealo,

I won't close my account - unless I have to pay for anonymity - I just wont' be participating in any stock related discussions anymore besides Symbiostock.

stockastic · « **Reply #296 on:** May 31, 2013, 09:27 »

Who knows of another open, anonymous microstock forum? Anything on Google Groups? I hate to see the fun and interesting discussion end, but that's obviously what will happen here. Some of my favorite provocateurs have already left.

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #297 on:** May 31, 2013, 09:43 »

Quote from: stockastic on May 31, 2013, 09:27

Who knows of another open, anonymous microstock forum? Anything on Google Groups? I hate to see the fun and interesting discussion end, but that's obviously what will happen here. Some of my favorite provocateurs have already left.

I'm not aware of anything else like MSG. There had been a Yahoo group that was reasonably active a long time ago and fell by the wayside after most people migrated here.

I am very sad to see departures as a result of this proposal (although it's not a surprise that this is a very sensitive topic; it's been discussed before and every time has resulted in a very polarized discussion)

The fastest way to get people to leave is to have the discussions here become uninteresting or the members and visits dwindle. IMO Tyler should either implement this or state that the idea has been shelved. One way or the other we can move on versus leave the topic hanging indefinitely

cathyslife · « **Reply #298 on:** May 31, 2013, 10:10 »

Quote from: Poncke v2 on May 31, 2013, 09:08

Hmm, Rubyroo left as well. It is not even implemented yet, but already loads of people dropping off.

So far left Matt Dixon, Rubyroo, Microbius, Vlad the Imp, Michealo,

Matt dixon? Hmmm i thought that WAS his real name.

gbalex · « **Reply #299 on:** May 31, 2013, 10:34 »

Quote from: JPSDK on May 31, 2013, 02:58

Quote from: rubyroo on May 31, 2013, 02:43
No doubt all those things are true for SOME people. My point is that not ALL anonymous posters are anonymous for devious reasons, and it's really unpleasant that the issue has been generalised to the point that it has.

Of course it is not all people. Its probably only a few who have dubious interests.

I am seeing a fair amount of judgmental ego from a few non anonymous people here while they promote an exclusionary forum for people who make the same choices they have. There also seems to be an inability to look at life from any other perspective than their own.

I wonder how the board would respond if it was instead asked to exclude non anonymous members with judgmental self centered egos. It is easy to demonize someone when you do not know them by name, but trust me you personally know some of us and some of us are your friends, well respected submitters and site reviewers.

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Author Topic: Confirmed Identities on MSG (trial for a month?) (Read 49909 times)

falstafff

JPSDK

rubyroo

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ShadySue

JPSDK

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Mantis

CD123

fotografer

cobalt

fotografer

Poncke v2

leaf

YadaYadaYada

Poncke v2

Mantis

Poncke v2

BaldricksTrousers

click_click

stockastic

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cathyslife

gbalex

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