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Title: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: leaf on April 29, 2013, 15:08
Here's the link
https://99designs.com/logo-design/vote-noyfzk

Leave a comment and feel free to type in your username so I can see (for interest) who is voting for what.  These are the top contenders so far - the designers are still at work so I'm open to suggestions and can still request changes / improvements.

.. and make sure you give a vote to the ones you don't like as well so they get ranked properly
Title: Re: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: Perry on April 29, 2013, 15:29
132, 48, 41, 33, 23 have all the same problem: the text says Micro Stock Group, when it should be Microstock Group (as in 104 and 27). 128 says Micro Stockgroup.

I don't like the brown color, It's a very difficult color in logos.
Title: Re: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: daveh900 on April 29, 2013, 15:35
I wish I would have known about this, I could have offered up a solution.

Frankly, I'm not overly impressed with any of the choices.
Title: Re: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: WebSubstance on April 29, 2013, 15:43
I'm not sure if this is important to you but none of them seem to relate to photography.
Title: Re: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: ShadySue on April 29, 2013, 15:45
I wish I would have known about this, I could have offered up a solution.
It's still open, I think.
Title: Re: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on April 29, 2013, 16:07
I'm not sure if this is important to you but none of them seem to relate to photography.

Yeah.  Looks like the designers have a folder of 'discussion group' icons and just pulled a few out.
Title: Re: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: cidepix on April 29, 2013, 16:14
I'm not sure if this is important to you but none of them seem to relate to photography.

because microstock is not only about photography..

it is about photography, illustration, audio, video, flash animation, web templates etc. etc..
Title: Re: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: leaf on April 29, 2013, 16:15
I'm not sure if this is important to you but none of them seem to relate to photography.

I specifically requested that it not be just be about photography because this site also includes audio, video and illustration.
Title: Re: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: daveh900 on April 29, 2013, 16:17
I wish I would have known about this, I could have offered up a solution.
It's still open, I think.


Nope, closed to these finalists.
Title: Re: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: ShadySue on April 29, 2013, 16:17
I'm not sure if this is important to you but none of them seem to relate to photography.

Yeah.  Looks like the designers have a folder of 'discussion group' icons and just pulled a few out.
Works for me, it's a discussion group.
Title: Re: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: cidepix on April 29, 2013, 16:21
128 for me.. 33 and 41 are also acceptable..

what I would change with 128:
- drop the white spot on letter "o".. whatever that is?
- make "microstock" very dark blue, and "group" a lighter blue.. this will eliminate the issue perry mentioned..
Title: Re: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: daveh900 on April 29, 2013, 16:23

what I would change with 128:
- drop the white spot on letter "o".. whatever that is?
- make "microstock" very dark blue, and "group" a lighter blue.. this will eliminate the issue perry mentioned..

I still think it would read as micro stockgroup.
Title: Re: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: cidepix on April 29, 2013, 16:26

what I would change with 128:
- drop the white spot on letter "o".. whatever that is?
- make "microstock" very dark blue, and "group" a lighter blue.. this will eliminate the issue perry mentioned..

I still think it would read as micro stockgroup.

the bubble can be tried between stock and group as well.. if there has to be a "bubble" in that logo, that's the one imo..
Title: Re: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: leaf on April 29, 2013, 16:35
Yeah, it could make sense to have the bubble on the group since that is the part of the word meaning discussion.  I don't mind it saying micro stock group though because micro is just part of what we are.  We are first stock photographers/illustrators etc. .. then second, microstock photographers etc.

I agree with the bubble think in the O, it's unnecessary and a bit distracting
Title: Re: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on April 29, 2013, 16:37
I'm not sure if this is important to you but none of them seem to relate to photography.

Yeah.  Looks like the designers have a folder of 'discussion group' icons and just pulled a few out.
Works for me, it's a discussion group.

But there's no effort to imply or incorporate creativity or artistry or selling.
Title: Re: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: leaf on April 29, 2013, 16:38
I'm also (in the long term) planning an update of the site here in terms of looks and colors which is why the logo doesn't match the site.  The colors in the logo are easy to change though either way.
Title: Re: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: leaf on April 29, 2013, 16:45
One could also argue that 132 has a speech bubble with creativity bubbles coming out the top ;)
Title: Re: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: Reef on April 29, 2013, 17:12
Leaf, I was going to enter this but I missed the deadline - I did make a start as you can see in the top version. The next step would have been a version with the initials, MSG, in the circles. The other version, bottom example, was just a quick idea but would need to be developed properly.
Title: Re: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: Mactrunk on April 29, 2013, 17:23
I'm also late. I did not realize the deadline was so soon. I do want to share my version. I think a strong logo needs a recognizable icon that could stand alone. It should also 'tell' something about the subject. I put 'photography, talk, discussion and the initial of the logo 'M' in an icon. The camera is standing on an M that functions as a tripod. The lens is a text balloon. Didn't want it to go to waste so I'm just sharing it anyway. I just found out it was closed just now.
Title: Re: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: Reef on April 29, 2013, 17:48
I'm also late. I did not realize the deadline was so soon. I do want to share my version. I think a strong logo needs a recognizable icon that could stand alone. It should also 'tell' something about the subject. I put 'photography, talk, discussion and the initial of the logo 'M' in an icon. The camera is standing on an M that functions as a tripod. The lens is a text balloon. Didn't want it to go to waste so I'm just sharing it anyway. I just found out it was closed just now.

LOL, being late is the story of my life!  Nice concept. Looking at Leaf's other choice of designs, I have noticed he leans towards "slick looking"
Title: Re: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: gillian vann on April 29, 2013, 18:18
not in love with the colours. what is that, puce?  :-\
Title: Re: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: mattdixon on April 29, 2013, 19:05
128,104 and 27. Graphic is fine on these but I would loose the 70's typeface and dower colours and go for a modern typeface and fresher colours.
Title: Re: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: gillian vann on April 29, 2013, 19:07
how do you loosen a colour?

 :P
Title: Re: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: Silken Photography on April 29, 2013, 19:49
I actually quite like Reef's second option above better than the finalists.

Yeah, helpful, me...
Title: Re: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: Beppe Grillo on April 30, 2013, 01:05
I don't see nor the idea of image (photo, illustration, etc) neither the idea of group in none of these logos.
Take some more time to get something that suit better to these concepts.
Is it a so big problem for you if you have the new logo today or in two weeks?
Title: Re: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: Pixart on April 30, 2013, 01:16
Leaf, I was going to enter this but I missed the deadline - I did make a start as you can see in the top version. The next step would have been a version with the initials, MSG, in the circles. The other version, bottom example, was just a quick idea but would need to be developed properly.

I hate to say this, but I like both of Reef's more than the contest entries!  Maybe the first bubble could be the iris of a lens or is that too much of a cliche?
Title: Re: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: cidepix on April 30, 2013, 03:09
Speech bubble is good.. this is a forum site..

Lenses, cameras do not apply here as there are other content creators too.. it is an outdated idea for an industry so diverse..
Title: Re: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: rubyroo on April 30, 2013, 03:22
How about:

1.  A lens (would cover stills and video)
2.  A pencil (would cover all forms of illustration)
3.  A speech bubble (purpose of MSG)

Wouldn't that be simple enough and keep all providers happy? (Hope I haven't forgotten anyone...)
Title: Re: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: leaf on April 30, 2013, 03:37
How about:

1.  A lens (would cover stills and video)
2.  A pencil (would cover all forms of illustration)
3.  A speech bubble (purpose of MSG)

Wouldn't that be simple enough and keep all providers happy? (Hope I haven't forgotten anyone...)

audio?
Title: Re: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: Microbius on April 30, 2013, 03:38
I wish I would have known about this, I could have offered up a solution.

Frankly, I'm not overly impressed with any of the choices.
Hate to say it but I agree, not a big fan of any of them, all seem quite generic. I think it is a problem with these competition sites, the people that take part regularly have to enter loads of contests to make enough money to make it worthwhile, so you end up with very standard cliparty stuff.
Title: Re: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: rubyroo on April 30, 2013, 03:45
audio?

Oh yes... sorry... I was trying not to go over three elements. :(

I guess that could be an ear, microphone, speaker, CD, crotchet, or quaver...(?)

But now it seems like too many elements... How about making the 'S' in MSG a USB cable, and have some images, musical notes and binary numbers coming out of it in some way.
Title: Re: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: cidepix on April 30, 2013, 04:09
I wish I would have known about this, I could have offered up a solution.

Frankly, I'm not overly impressed with any of the choices.
Hate to say it but I agree, not a big fan of any of them, all seem quite generic. I think it is a problem with these competition sites, the people that take part regularly have to enter loads of contests to make enough money to make it worthwhile, so you end up with very standard cliparty stuff.

I agree but it's still quite an upgrade to what MSG currently have.. at least it will be a logo, not a banner :)
Title: Re: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: mattdixon on April 30, 2013, 05:02
how do you loosen a colour?

 :P

With a slack of paint :-)
Title: Re: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: gillian vann on April 30, 2013, 06:16
how do you loosen a colour?

 :P

With a slack of paint :-)
nice. slick, even.
you have redeemed yourself.
Title: Re: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: daveh900 on April 30, 2013, 08:40
I always find it interesting when people discuss logos. I have designed hundreds of logos for clients big and small, and there are a several misconceptions about logos that I have heard over and over again.

A logo does not need to tell the story about your business. In fact I would say it's better if it didn't.

Think for a moment about all the big brands and their logos. Off the top of your head can you name one that has a logo image that completely details the business? If I owned a company that produced sporting goods, would I need to include an image of each sport that I cater to in my logo?

Ever see a car manufacturer with a picture of a car as their logo? Ever see a camera manufacturer with the way overused lens aperture design?

Although I'm not a huge fan of the logos Leaf has chosen, I do agree with him that it should not be photography focused... and this is really his choice at the end of the day.

However, I do wish i could have taken a stab at this. Although I swore off logo contests quite a while ago, I would have jumped in on this one.
Title: Re: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: rubyroo on April 30, 2013, 08:42
Fair enough.  I'm not a designer.  I just thought it might be fun to brainstorm it, even if my ideas seem like rubbish.  :)
Title: Re: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: cidepix on April 30, 2013, 09:01
I always find it interesting when people discuss logos. I have designed hundreds of logos for clients big and small, and there are a several misconceptions about logos that I have heard over and over again.

A logo does not need to tell the story about your business. In fact I would say it's better if it didn't.

Think for a moment about all the big brands and their logos. Off the top of your head can you name one that has a logo image that completely details the business? If I owned a company that produced sporting goods, would I need to include an image of each sport that I cater to in my logo?

Ever see a car manufacturer with a picture of a car as their logo? Ever see a camera manufacturer with the way overused lens aperture design?

Although I'm not a huge fan of the logos Leaf has chosen, I do agree with him that it should not be photography focused... and this is really his choice at the end of the day.

However, I do wish i could have taken a stab at this. Although I swore off logo contests quite a while ago, I would have jumped in on this one.

all very good points.. I agree..
Title: Re: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on April 30, 2013, 09:11
"A logo does not need to tell the story about your business. In fact I would say it's better if it didn't."

But all of them do.  They all/mostly depict 'communication' in some way, which just seems like an easy way out. 
Title: Re: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: leaf on April 30, 2013, 09:19
"A logo does not need to tell the story about your business. In fact I would say it's better if it didn't."

But all of them do.  They all/mostly depict 'communication' in some way, which just seems like an easy way out. 

Not #41 ..
Title: Re: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: daveh900 on April 30, 2013, 09:20
"A logo does not need to tell the story about your business. In fact I would say it's better if it didn't."

But all of them do.  They all/mostly depict 'communication' in some way, which just seems like an easy way out.

I agree Sean. The logos chosen as finalists are somewhat stereotypical icons. Speech bubbles... yet another concept that has been used way too often. I wasn't referring directly to the finalists logos, as much as I was to the people suggesting that the logo should include icons like lenses and pencils.

Too often the focus is on the logo, and not the complete branding package. I've seen logos that are just mediocre on their own but completely brilliant when you look at the entire branding package.




Title: Re: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: Xanox on April 30, 2013, 11:19
to me they all look good enough, actually most of them are ripoff or are "inspired" from other famous logos.


Title: Re: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: Amanda_K on April 30, 2013, 13:40
128 is the one I'd go with if you are going to pick one of that bunch, but lose the silly little second speech bubble in the o.  It doesn't work when it's sized down.  Are the colors set in stone?  They feel a  little....dark and musty? :D Sorry!  I think something fresher would be good.
Title: Re: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: MichaelJayFoto on April 30, 2013, 14:09
Hm, for a choice there seems to be a lot of very similar options, font and color wise... and one reminds me far too much of Microsoft with the speech bubbles similar to the Windows logo a few years ago. The other's font is not really a great choice in my opinion.

Well, I cast my votes and rated all of them. Good luck with the choice, I'd be surprised if you'd find any that makes everyone happy. ;)
Title: Re: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: leaf on April 30, 2013, 14:25
Yeah, from the votes I can easily see no matter what I choose someone is going to hate it :)  In the end I just have to choose something I like.

The logo entrants all all the same color because I requested the designers to pick from a color pallete I made on Adobe's Kuler.  Here's a link (I think you have to be logged in to see it)
https://kuler.adobe.com/#themeID/2408329
The colors aren't set in stone, they are just a set of colors I like.  I like natural, muted retro tones.  If someone wants to set up a different swatch of colors for a potential new site I'd be interested in seeing some good combinations.

The contest is still going on and there have been a few more nice logos added. I'll create a second poll in a day or two.  Thanks for all the votes and comments, it has been very helpful.
Title: Re: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on April 30, 2013, 14:27
Don't worry too much, it's your site, so get something you like :)
Title: Re: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: daveh900 on April 30, 2013, 14:28

The contest is still going on...

Only for the designers that you chose, correct?
Title: Re: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: leaf on April 30, 2013, 14:44

The contest is still going on...

Only for the designers that you chose, correct?

Right, I picked 8 finalists so it is now closed to them.

Also, the reason lots of the logos look very similar is because one designer has made most of the variations.
Title: Re: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: elvinstar on April 30, 2013, 16:48
The logo entrants all all the same color because I requested the designers to pick from a color pallete I made on Adobe's Kuler.  Here's a link (I think you have to be logged in to see it)
https://kuler.adobe.com/#themeID/2408329

I couldn't see the pallette even when logged in...
Title: Re: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: Suljo on April 30, 2013, 17:05
Why designs #104 and #27 are presented smaller in lenght than other longtail designs words? If they were same lenght like other designs they will definitely pop in you eyes.  :o
Title: Re: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: leaf on May 01, 2013, 00:35
Here's a screenshot of the swatch.
Title: Re: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: elvinstar on May 01, 2013, 14:25
Thanks! I like it!
Title: Re: Help pick the new logo for MicrostockGroup [Poll]
Post by: leaf on May 01, 2013, 15:37
Thanks everyone.
I've now started a new thread with a new poll... the finalists.
http://www.microstockgroup.com/site-related/pick-the-new-logo-for-microstockgroup-%28round-2%29/ (http://www.microstockgroup.com/site-related/pick-the-new-logo-for-microstockgroup-%28round-2%29/)