Author Topic: Disappearing posts (Read 18600 times)

Red Dove · « **Reply #25 on:** May 14, 2014, 10:10 »

What we really need is a greater contribution from the silent majority.

Ron · « **Reply #26 on:** May 14, 2014, 10:12 »

Quote from: gostwyck on May 14, 2014, 10:02

Quote from: Sean Locke Photography on May 14, 2014, 09:31
Quote from: Ron on May 14, 2014, 09:03
Why is so hard to show both up and down votes? I see that on plenty of forums.

Personally, I don't care what up or down votes I get. It doesn't hurt my feelings if people disagree with something.

Same here. Anyone that gets upset because 'someone on the internet disagrees with them' needs to get a life.

This is not about getting one or two down votes.

Ron · « **Reply #27 on:** May 14, 2014, 10:13 »

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on May 14, 2014, 09:56

Quote from: Ron on May 14, 2014, 09:03
Why is so hard to show both up and down votes? I see that on plenty of forums.
I've no idea but if Tyler thinks it might cause problems I would accept his judgement. He's the one juggling the code.

I am not questioning his judgement, just asking why its so hard. Curiosity you know. Thats all.

Beppe Grillo · « **Reply #28 on:** May 14, 2014, 10:20 »

Quote from: Red Dove on May 14, 2014, 10:10

What we really need is a greater contribution from the silent majority.

Qui tacet consentire videtur

Red Dove · « **Reply #29 on:** May 14, 2014, 10:45 »

Quote from: Beppe Grillo on May 14, 2014, 10:20

Quote from: Red Dove on May 14, 2014, 10:10
What we really need is a greater contribution from the silent majority.

Qui tacet consentire videtur

I am silently disagreeing with you.

My Aunt Florence would always say; if you have nothing to say then you'd better not say it. Odd woman - drank scotch by the bottle and rode a bicycle until she was in her eighties even though she had an artificial left foot.

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #30 on:** May 14, 2014, 10:51 »

Quote from: gostwyck on May 14, 2014, 10:02

Quote from: Sean Locke Photography on May 14, 2014, 09:31
Quote from: Ron on May 14, 2014, 09:03
Why is so hard to show both up and down votes? I see that on plenty of forums.

Personally, I don't care what up or down votes I get. It doesn't hurt my feelings if people disagree with something.

Same here. Anyone that gets upset because 'someone on the internet disagrees with them' needs to get a life.

Yes. There might be a bit of a misunderstanding there. Let's stick to the question of posts that actually vanish rather than worrying about people being thin-skinned.

gbalex · « **Reply #31 on:** May 14, 2014, 11:09 »

Quote from: Sean Locke Photography on May 14, 2014, 09:31

Quote from: Ron on May 14, 2014, 09:03
Why is so hard to show both up and down votes? I see that on plenty of forums.

Personally, I don't care what up or down votes I get. It doesn't hurt my feelings if people disagree with something.

I agree, Lisa has always spoken her mind and that is what I have always respected about her... even when she does not agree with me which is often.

There are two or three characters who vote down almost every post I make here. I know who they are and it does not bother me in the least.

Ron · « **Reply #32 on:** May 14, 2014, 11:13 »

Thats probably because they disagree with basically everything you say. I cant fault them on that.

bunhill · « **Reply #33 on:** May 14, 2014, 11:22 »

Quote from: gbalex on May 14, 2014, 11:09

There are two or three characters who vote down almost every post I make here. I know who they are and it does not bother me in the least.

There are one or two posters who seem to want to make everything personal - as if an alternative perspective somehow creates aggression within them. Unfortunately this type of posting is difficult to ignore and has driven quite a few people away in recent months.

Ron · « **Reply #34 on:** May 14, 2014, 11:39 »

Ok, I wasnt aware of this, and I just tested it. I logged out and check the FT thread where Mat announced the new royalties on Fotolia.

As it turns out, as explained by Baldrick, the comment is hidden and cant be read. That is a very bad thing indeed. And that needs to be fixed as it completely defeats the purpose of an open debate. Anyone can now hide a comment if they group together. There is a mob running against FT and DPC, but ALL COMMENTS need to be visible. Moderation and censorship only on less popular stand points is a very bad thing on a forum so important for contributors. This place is basically the only place where we can speak up and speak openly. Thats the power of this forum, and it should stay like that.

Beppe Grillo · « **Reply #35 on:** May 14, 2014, 11:53 »

Quote from: Red Dove on May 14, 2014, 10:45

Quote from: Beppe Grillo on May 14, 2014, 10:20
Quote from: Red Dove on May 14, 2014, 10:10
What we really need is a greater contribution from the silent majority.

Qui tacet consentire videtur

I am silently disagreeing with you.

[…] if you have nothing to say then you'd better not say it. […]

It is what in some circumstances «Qui tacet consentire videtur» means…

Sure you aunt was an interesting woman!

(For this I give you a +1

)

pixsol · « **Reply #36 on:** May 14, 2014, 11:54 »

Quote from: Ron on May 14, 2014, 11:39

Ok, I wasnt aware of this, and I just tested it. I logged out and check the FT thread where Mat announced the new royalties on Fotolia.

As it turns out, as explained by Baldrick, the comment is hidden and cant be read. That is a very bad thing indeed. And that needs to be fixed as it completely defeats the purpose of an open debate. Anyone can now hide a comment if they group together. There is a mob running against FT and DPC, but ALL COMMENTS need to be visible. Moderation and censorship only on less popular stand points is a very bad thing on a forum so important for contributors. This place is basically the only place where we can speak up and speak openly. Thats the power of this forum, and it should stay like that.

Ron - I agree that all posts must be visible irrespective of their net vote count. But, as things stand now, though Mat's post is hidden, there is an option next to it "Show hidden post" and if I click on it, I can see it. I tried to check in my profile for any settings, but could not locate any that would directly correlate to hidden posts. I logged out of MSG and tried again. It still works. Perhaps, Leaf can tell what settings provide the option to "show hidden posts".

Ron · « **Reply #37 on:** May 14, 2014, 11:59 »

Quote from: pixsol on May 14, 2014, 11:54

Quote from: Ron on May 14, 2014, 11:39
Ok, I wasnt aware of this, and I just tested it. I logged out and check the FT thread where Mat announced the new royalties on Fotolia.

As it turns out, as explained by Baldrick, the comment is hidden and cant be read. That is a very bad thing indeed. And that needs to be fixed as it completely defeats the purpose of an open debate. Anyone can now hide a comment if they group together. There is a mob running against FT and DPC, but ALL COMMENTS need to be visible. Moderation and censorship only on less popular stand points is a very bad thing on a forum so important for contributors. This place is basically the only place where we can speak up and speak openly. Thats the power of this forum, and it should stay like that.

Ron - I agree that all posts must be visible irrespective of their net vote count. But, as things stand now, though Mat's post is hidden, there is an option next to it "Show hidden post" and if I click on it, I can see it. I tried to check in my profile for any settings, but could not locate any that would directly correlate to hidden posts. I logged out of MSG and tried again. It still works. Perhaps, Leaf can tell what settings provide the option to "show hidden posts".

Could I ask you log out, refresh the page and post a screenshot of what you see please, because when I log out there is no option to show the comment.

bunhill · « **Reply #38 on:** May 14, 2014, 12:07 »

Quote from: Ron on May 14, 2014, 11:39

This place is basically the only place where we can speak up and speak openly. Thats the power of this forum, and it should stay like that.

So why do you so often basically tell people to shut up ?

pixsol · « **Reply #39 on:** May 14, 2014, 12:08 »

Quote from: Ron on May 14, 2014, 11:59

Quote from: pixsol on May 14, 2014, 11:54
Quote from: Ron on May 14, 2014, 11:39
Ok, I wasnt aware of this, and I just tested it. I logged out and check the FT thread where Mat announced the new royalties on Fotolia.

As it turns out, as explained by Baldrick, the comment is hidden and cant be read. That is a very bad thing indeed. And that needs to be fixed as it completely defeats the purpose of an open debate. Anyone can now hide a comment if they group together. There is a mob running against FT and DPC, but ALL COMMENTS need to be visible. Moderation and censorship only on less popular stand points is a very bad thing on a forum so important for contributors. This place is basically the only place where we can speak up and speak openly. Thats the power of this forum, and it should stay like that.

Ron - I agree that all posts must be visible irrespective of their net vote count. But, as things stand now, though Mat's post is hidden, there is an option next to it "Show hidden post" and if I click on it, I can see it. I tried to check in my profile for any settings, but could not locate any that would directly correlate to hidden posts. I logged out of MSG and tried again. It still works. Perhaps, Leaf can tell what settings provide the option to "show hidden posts".
Could I ask you log out, refresh the page and post a screenshot of what you see please, because when I log out there is no option to show the comment.

Oh ! I read a bit too much. I realised that you had logged out but NOT logged in again. Sooo sorry. If I logout and open the thread (like a visitor to MSG who is not logged on), Mat's post is hidden and there is NO option. You are correct !

leaf · « **Reply #40 on:** May 14, 2014, 16:18 »

Quote from: Ron on May 14, 2014, 09:03

Why is so hard to show both up and down votes? I see that on plenty of forums.

On plenty of forums using SMF? I doubt it because you'd have to code the extension yourself. It would probably take a day and I'd probably only break a couple things in the process but I simply haven't spent the time to fight my way through it.

I have made it so posts don't hide themselves now though.

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #41 on:** May 14, 2014, 16:32 »

Quote from: leaf on May 14, 2014, 16:18

I have made it so posts don't hide themselves now though.

This is a very useful change. I didn't know that when not logged in you couldn't see things that had been hidden, and now that's been fixed. Thanks

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #42 on:** May 14, 2014, 17:35 »

Quote from: leaf on May 14, 2014, 16:18

Quote from: Ron on May 14, 2014, 09:03
Why is so hard to show both up and down votes? I see that on plenty of forums.

On plenty of forums using SMF? I doubt it because you'd have to code the extension yourself. It would probably take a day and I'd probably only break a couple things in the process but I simply haven't spent the time to fight my way through it.

I have made it so posts don't hide themselves now though.

Thank you.

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