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Microstock Photography Forum - General => Site Related => Topic started by: leaf on November 20, 2009, 10:23

Title: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: leaf on November 20, 2009, 10:23
Ok, a new little toy

If you go to your profile page.
http://www.microstockgroup.com/profile/ (http://www.microstockgroup.com/profile/)

You will see something called MicrostockGroup Ranking.  It will hopefully encourage us to upload better and faster :) ... if we want a little motivation - or at least give us an idea of how we are doing.  It is simply how your upload count and sales compares to the other members on MicrostockGroup.  The ranking only includes those members who have entered their iStock and Dreamstime information into their Forum Profile Information (http://www.microstockgroup.com/profile/?sa=forumProfile).

So for example, if it says
Dreamstime
Sales 100/525
Uploads 123/525

That means that 99 people (out of 525 people) have more sales than you on Dreamstime, and 122 people (out of 525) have more uploads than you.

If it says N/a that means you haven't entered your user information in the  Forum Profile Information (http://www.microstockgroup.com/profile/?sa=forumProfile) area

Once you have entered your information, you will also be included in the ranking list
Dreamstime Ranking (http://www.microstockgroup.com/?action=rank&site=Dreamstime)
iStock Ranking (http://www.microstockgroup.com/?action=rank&site=iStock)
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on November 20, 2009, 10:43
I don't understand what the numbers mean - I'm sorry if I'm being dense.

xx/yy  for both uploads and downloads. 31/442 is what mine says for uploads. I don't recognize either of those numbers
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: mantonino on November 20, 2009, 10:51
It looks like you're in 31st place out of 442 members.

MicrostockGroup Ranking
Dreamstime
    Sales    108 / 386
    Uploads    35 / 386
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on November 20, 2009, 10:59
Ahh, thanks.

As Yuri's a member, I'm guessing he's 1/442 :)
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: leaf on November 20, 2009, 11:20
It looks like you're in 31st place out of 442 members.

MicrostockGroup Ranking
Dreamstime
    Sales    108 / 386
    Uploads    35 / 386



thanks, I made the first post a little clearer now.

@jsnover
yeah, Yuri would be, but he hasn't entered his user info.  Right now Sean  (http://www.microstockgroup.com/profile/sjlocke/)is in first place for iStock.  I haven't check who has first place for Dreamstime.
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: etienjones on November 20, 2009, 11:41
Thanks leaf for the insight.  I am surprised though that I am not last in the rankings.
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: Microbius on November 23, 2009, 06:38
wow that's fantastic! the best thing about it is how easy it is now to compare how well your images are performing. If sales position is higher than upload position (irrespective of absolute rank) then you know you are doing something right!
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: leaf on November 23, 2009, 06:56
Yeah that is right Microbius.  It could also have to do with the length of time you have been on Dreamstime.  However your sales to uploads position is very good so I would have to think it is more than just time online.  I on the other hand am doing better on uploads than sales - in addition to being online for quite a while giving me lots of chance to get downloads.  What that means: I have too much crap in my portfolio!
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: leolintang on November 23, 2009, 12:10
good to know that im not the bottom rank  :P
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: WarrenPrice on November 23, 2009, 12:52
OUCH!!  I'm being ignored.  That hurts.  Sorry to have offended someone.   ???

Not a factor at DT, but not disappointed in the overall placement.  Not looking to increase ... my upload/rejection ratio is too low to get much uploading done.  Hope buyers will find the stuff that is there.

Neat new function, Leaf.  Thanks.
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: nata_rass on November 23, 2009, 13:10
It looks like you're in 31st place out of 442 members.


Does it mean the 31st place among 100 or 1000 members as well?
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: cathyslife on November 23, 2009, 14:52
Yay, I'm in the top 25% on both places.
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: leaf on November 23, 2009, 15:26
It looks like you're in 31st place out of 442 members.


Does it mean the 31st place among 100 or 1000 members as well?

look at your profile and it tells you out of how many people the ranking is.
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: eppic on November 23, 2009, 21:21
Interesting:

MicrostockGroup Ranking
Dreamstime
    Sales    263 / 390
    Uploads    167 / 390
iStockPhoto
    Sales    230 / 446
    Uploads    235 / 446

I guess I better get cracking!
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: NitorPhoto on November 24, 2009, 07:19
This is a great feature. Thanks!
My position looks pretty good on both sites. I am surprised.
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: Tim Markley on November 24, 2009, 08:00
Interesting, I'm middle of the pack at istock which is higher than I would have thought. Dreamstime is about where I would expect it to be.
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: fotografer on November 24, 2009, 08:15
Nice toy.  My results tell me that I need to upload more.
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: FD on November 26, 2009, 20:27
Dreamstime
    Sales    98 / 392
    Uploads 115 / 392
iStockPhoto
    Sales    203 / 449
    Uploads 169 / 449
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: mwp1969 on November 26, 2009, 21:02
I am proud to be surrounded by great company here on MSG

Dreamstime
    Sales    298 / 392
    Uploads    264 / 392

(301 image backlog to get up past their limits but will eventually get there)

iStockPhoto
    Sales    382 / 449
    Uploads    393 / 449

(500 image backlog since getting approved there at the end of April. With 15 per week and slow review times this is going to take some time. Thankfully SS is rocking for me right now)

Now back to uploading ...

-Mark
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: Suljo on November 26, 2009, 21:11
Dreamstime
    Sales    54 / 392
    Uploads    118 / 392
iStockPhoto
    Sales    142 / 449
    Uploads    157 / 449
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: Eireann on November 27, 2009, 14:18
Suljo, you're doing just beautiful and I'm happy for you!
Congratulations!

Now let's look at my stats :
Dreamstime
    Sales 340 / 392
    Uploads 253 / 392

iStockPhoto
    Sales 449 / 450
    Uploads 369 / 450

See that? Sales at IStock?
Out of 450 people with IS info, I'm  at position 449 :)
I'm the last one, this is depressing :)
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: leaf on November 27, 2009, 16:29
Suljo, you're doing just beautiful and I'm happy for you!
Congratulations!

Now let's look at my stats :
Dreamstime
    Sales 340 / 392
    Uploads 253 / 392

iStockPhoto
    Sales 449 / 450
    Uploads 369 / 450

See that? Sales at IStock?
Out of 450 people with IS info, I'm  at position 449 :)
I'm the last one, this is depressing :)


what? no - the last one would be 450 :)  You are not last!
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: ap on November 27, 2009, 16:33
i just noticed that my is rank dropped 10 places over this thanksgiving weekend.   :o
well, i can only be happy for those who took my place.  :'(
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: leaf on November 27, 2009, 16:50
i just noticed that my is rank dropped 10 places over this thanksgiving weekend.   :o
well, i can only be happy for those who took my place.  :'(

haha, yeah I bet lots of people are uploading this weekend. with the extra time off.  I stopped uploading to Shutterstock so that my images don't get drowned :)  I'll continue again next week - although the reviewers will probably be a bit backlogged
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: MicrostockExp on November 27, 2009, 18:30
My stats:)
Dreamstime
    Sales    173 / 392
    Uploads    97 / 392
iStockPhoto
    Sales    225 / 450
    Uploads    194 / 450
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: KB on November 27, 2009, 18:47
Dreamstime
    Sales       149 / 392
    Uploads    221 / 392
iStockPhoto
    Sales        170 / 450
    Uploads     133 / 450


So if my uploads are ahead of my sales (as with IS), that means my portfolio isn't pulling its weight compared to others?  :(
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: iofoto on November 27, 2009, 22:31
Dreamstime
    Sales    1 / 393
iStockPhoto
    Sales    11 / 451
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: fotografer on November 28, 2009, 00:55
So your the person that's been stealing all my sales at dreamstime ;)

Dreamstime
    Sales    1 / 393
iStockPhoto
    Sales    11 / 451
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: leaf on November 28, 2009, 04:10


Dreamstime
    Sales    1 / 393
iStockPhoto
    Sales    11 / 451
So your the person that's been stealing all my sales at dreamstime ;)

That's what I was going to say.  I was wondering who was number 1.  I guess we know who we have to beat now!
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: sam100 on November 28, 2009, 04:32
Dreamstime

    Sales            28 / 393
    Uploads    11 / 393

I'm not uploading to istock anymore.. stopped way back when they introduced the CV thing...

Patrick H.
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: Smithore on November 28, 2009, 07:24
mine:

Dreamstime
    Sales    115 / 393
    Uploads    57 / 393
iStockPhoto
    Sales    151 / 451
    Uploads    70 / 451
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: FD on November 28, 2009, 09:50
I'm the last one, this is depressing :)
You only started in July of this year! You have a marvelous food/people port, the kind that sells well on stock. You will climb the ranks fast.
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: iofoto on November 28, 2009, 09:58
I was actually quite amazed by the statistics. We don't have the largest collections, and we have taken a break from uploading over the past year. My guess is that a strategy of a diverse collection has helped maintain our sales. This is not an original idea... 25 years ago, the sales manager of a stock agency provided invaluable advice. Clients then would make a research request (the old school version of a keyword search) and researchers would send out slides. If you didn't have an image in that delivery, there was no way you could make a sale. My goal as a generalist photographer was to populate as many "keywords" as possible with good images. (Please note this is quite different from populating images with as many keywords as possible!) The diversity helps maintain the long term income potential of a collection.
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on November 28, 2009, 10:05
Dreamstime
    Sales    N/A
    Uploads    N/A
iStockPhoto
    Sales    1 / 452
    Uploads    1 / 452

:)
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: Albert Martin on November 28, 2009, 10:31
I have ABCXYZ images online on macros ;-)

On microstockgroup I have 6 ignores from members so far ;-)
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: raphotography on November 28, 2009, 17:15
Great feature.

Here are my stats:

Dreamstime
    Sales    147 / 396
    Uploads    57 / 396
iStockPhoto
    Sales    362 / 454
    Uploads    386 / 454
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: RacePhoto on December 01, 2009, 22:52


Dreamstime
    Sales    1 / 393
iStockPhoto
    Sales    11 / 451
So your the person that's been stealing all my sales at dreamstime ;)

That's what I was going to say.  I was wondering who was number 1.  I guess we know who we have to beat now!

Interesting, how come I have no data entered and I can still see my ranking? The boxes are empty? (not anymore, I added the accounts so I could play if you add more agencies) But how did I get a rank, with no info? Default database or error or is this real? I'll give it a day to adjust to filling in the boxes.

Add more sites, add more sites. This beats the surveys all to heck. No lying!  ;D

Just posting a number doesn't make sense to me. Mine keeps changing. With that, here's Jan. 1st 2010

iStockPhoto
    Sales    408 / 475
    Uploads    348 / 475

Revised Jan. after Leaf "fixed" it: (hey look, every number is exactly 12 less, except uploads?)  :D

iStockPhoto
    Sales    396 / 463
    Uploads    332 / 463

Sales on IS that places me just into the middle 2/3rds of all contributors. What's that? Yes, 33% of all IS contributors are lower than me. Just can't wait for my first payout, (won't be long now) so I can see where that stands. Uploads? The number above with just over 100 accepted files, puts me in the top third. In other words, 67% of all the members accounted for on istockcharts, have LESS files than I do. 25% here have under 100 files on IS.

-=-=-

Dreamstime
    Sales    369 / 417  (369 is under $20, what are the next 48 people at?)
    Uploads    388 / 417 (don't know if this is for 62 files or the 10 that are left)

It does raise some questions in my mind, as far as, how can anyone be doing worse than me on DT?  ;D

I have in effect removed my DT portfolio, 10 images left. Which makes me wonder how people can be lower than I am? This is the result of low sales, never cashing in, for two years! 24 RF licenses in two years, most of them for 2008 uploads of the same style... "images like this don't sell well" rejected in 2009, I gave up. (call that a personal issue if you want, but I quit.)

But back to the point, if it is the 62 total files (disabled plus active) then 29 people have less. If it's the ten files, that's crazy! Sales? How can anyone do worse than $20 for two years?
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: Anyka on December 02, 2009, 01:08
Dreamstime
    Sales 25 / 398
    Uploads 28 / 398
iStockPhoto
    Sales 53 / 456
    Uploads 38 / 456

Suprised sales is better than uploads at DS - I'm not doing so well there lately compared to other sites.
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: tempura on December 02, 2009, 06:39
istock;
Sales     317 / 456
Uploads    180 / 456

does that mean that I'm good at uploading files but bad at selling them  >:(  [  ;) ]
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: FD on December 02, 2009, 12:10
I have ABCXYZ images online on macros ;-)

Nice grin. So, err.. where on Macrostock? Flickr?  ;D
On microstockgroup I have 6 ignores from members so far ;-)

If you are God's Gift to Macrostock, why waste your time on a forum of Microstocl shrimps? Envy is all over your posts. Nothing to learn from you. No portfolio links. You're just a troll.  :P Make that 7.  ;)
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: leaf on December 03, 2009, 05:39
istock;
Sales     317 / 456
Uploads    180 / 456

does that mean that I'm good at uploading files but bad at selling them  >:(  [  ;) ]

perhaps that was a rhetorical question but.... since you asked :)

Either it means you are new and haven't had time to get the downloads, or you need to work less on quantity and more on quality.  Looking at your portfolio, you seem to have nice clean images and some of your recent shots are very nice.  Not sure where the sales are though... perhaps it is keywords, or shooting less popular subjects or trying to sell within very competitive keywords.
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: dgilder on December 04, 2009, 01:51
Dreamstime
    Sales    84 / 401
    Uploads    62 / 401
iStockPhoto
    Sales    49 / 460
    Uploads    38 / 460

I have never done too well on Dreamstime, though it started picking up in volume this year.  iStock and Shutterstock have both been going fabulous this past year, leaving DT at about 1/6th of my total income.  iStock is still my top moneymaker, followed (usually closely) by Shutterstock.
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: jsolie on December 04, 2009, 17:30
...My goal as a generalist photographer was to populate as many "keywords" as possible with good images. (Please note this is quite different from populating images with as many keywords as possible!) ...

Not to derail this thread, but this is probably the most insightful photography-related thing I've read today.  :)  Thank you very much for sharing that.

Yep, that's me...somewhere in the middle of the pack.

Dreamstime
    Sales    212 / 401
    Uploads    150 / 401

iStockPhoto
    Sales    227 / 460
    Uploads    136 / 460
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: blackwaterimages on December 17, 2009, 23:27
Dreamstime
    Sales    N/A
    Uploads    N/A
iStockPhoto
    Sales    1 / 452
    Uploads    1 / 452

:)

Dreamstime
    Sales    N/A
    Uploads    N/A
iStockPhoto
    Sales    22 / 464
    Uploads    2 / 464


Guess I'm right behind Sean with uploads. Way, way, way behind in downloads though... :)
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: elvinstar on December 17, 2009, 23:57
Dreamstime
    Sales    82 / 404
    Uploads    106 / 404
iStockPhoto
    Sales    118 / 464
    Uploads    89 / 464
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: adamkaz on December 30, 2009, 19:29
Cool...
Dreamstime
    Sales    N/A
    Uploads    N/A
iStockPhoto
    Sales    35 / 474
    Uploads    75 / 474

Guess I need to upload a lot more!  :)
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: kaycee on December 30, 2009, 20:57
I'm not the worst in the ...world but far from good.

    Dreamstime
    Sales            305 / 415
    Uploads    190 / 415
    iStockPhoto
    Sales            368 / 474
    Uploads    267 / 474  
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: Anita Potter on January 06, 2010, 23:42
I'm scraping my way towards the bottom

Dreamstime
Sales       390/421
Uploads   376/421

My port over there is small (30) and I got taken out of the game before I got started.  Stupid lightning strike.   Probably would be better had I been able to upload the past 7 months :S
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: melastmohican on January 07, 2010, 01:22
MicrostockGroup Ranking
Dreamstime
    Sales    234 / 421
    Uploads    51 / 421
iStockPhoto
    Sales    389 / 477
    Uploads    286 / 477

It looks like few people do worse on IS than I, unbelievable :-)
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: johngriffin on January 07, 2010, 03:10
I haven't uploaded to either so it's funny I have a rank.  I am sorry to the people behind me. Maybe they count rejects as negative ;-)

Dreamstime
    Sales    416 / 421
    Uploads    417 / 421
iStockPhoto
    Sales    451 / 477
    Uploads    459 / 477
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: ap on January 07, 2010, 03:38
I haven't uploaded to either so it's funny I have a rank. 

i think this whole rank thing is really suspect. first of all, i had disabled any public istock info in my profile. second,  some people with more downloads have a lower rank and others with less dls have a higher rank than me. i am pretty new so i'm not complaining about my rank but it just seem a little screwy like john's experience.  ???
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: keo on January 07, 2010, 04:51
For vector artist, download should better than upload!

Dreamstime
    Sales    63 / 421
    Uploads    221 / 421
iStockPhoto
    Sales    83 / 477
    Uploads    234 / 477
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: leaf on January 07, 2010, 08:08
the problem was that the site wasn't deleted old information that was once typed in.  It should be fixed now.
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: PowerDroid on January 07, 2010, 09:54
Dreamstime
    Sales    93 / 410
    Uploads    149 / 410
iStockPhoto
    Sales    265 / 466
    Uploads    331 / 466

Leaf, I know you're seeing some criticism here, but I for one appreciate the tool.  It's a good way to benchmark one's progress with others who are serious about microstock.  I've actually been looking at it several times a week since you implemented it to watch my movement... I'm pretty pleased with my positioning since I've just been submitting to Dreamstime for about 14 months and Istock for about 3 months.  Thanks for all you do on this site... it really is an invaluable resource for all of us, and I don't see my colleagues pointing that out enough.  Kudos!
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: leaf on January 07, 2010, 10:28
I haven't uploaded to either so it's funny I have a rank.

i think this whole rank thing is really suspect. first of all, i had disabled any public istock info in my profile. second,  some people with more downloads have a lower rank and others with less dls have a higher rank than me. i am pretty new so i'm not complaining about my rank but it just seem a little screwy like john's experience.  ???

can you give me some examples of wrong stats?
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: epantha on January 07, 2010, 11:09
Dreamstime
    Sales    164 / 407
    Uploads    179 / 407
iStockPhoto
    Sales    195 / 465
    Uploads    161 / 465
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: Stu49 on January 07, 2010, 11:16
No wonder I seem to be going backwards !!   ;)  I though a lot of people were joining IS lately ! 

Even those without an IS account are being included in the count !!   :o
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: ap on January 07, 2010, 14:24

can you give me some examples of wrong stats?

actually, since you fixed the problem with showing old data, i don't have a problem with rank anymore. but to cite specific examples, i'll need to name names. maybe i can pm you instead.

by the way, i do appreciate this little tool and everything about msg you've accomplished.  :)
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: leaf on January 07, 2010, 15:39
No wonder I seem to be going backwards !!   ;)  I though a lot of people were joining IS lately ! 

Even those without an IS account are being included in the count !!   :o

haha.. yeah - fixed now though.

@ap - sure, send me a pm.  If I can see some the problems I can fix the errors (if there are any)
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: cascoly on January 08, 2010, 19:23
been traveling so missed this neat tool's debut

 
Dreamstime
    Sales 122 / 398
    Uploads 30 / 398
iStockPhoto
    Sales 281 / 454
    Uploads 120 / 454


  why not add the option to dislay the list of top 100 [or even all] in each category -- you could make it an opt in chocie in the profile so people could have their name hidden

 it would provid an easier measurement than trying to read all the indiv postings

s
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: leaf on January 09, 2010, 10:44
been traveling so missed this neat tool's debut

 
Dreamstime
    Sales 122 / 398
    Uploads 30 / 398
iStockPhoto
    Sales 281 / 454
    Uploads 120 / 454


  why not add the option to dislay the list of top 100 [or even all] in each category -- you could make it an opt in chocie in the profile so people could have their name hidden

 it would provid an easier measurement than trying to read all the indiv postings

s


yeah, good idea.  I had also though to show the people who are close to you so you can see how much farther you have to go to move up in the ranking.  The peoples names could be hidden or shown.
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: Stu49 on January 09, 2010, 11:45
No wonder I seem to be going backwards !!   ;)  I though a lot of people were joining IS lately ! 

Even those without an IS account are being included in the count !!   :o

haha.. yeah - fixed now though.

@ap - sure, send me a pm.  If I can see some the problems I can fix the errors (if there are any)

Wow !  that's made a difference, only 450 on iS now !  I was number 461 when I joined a few weeks ago  :)

Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: ShadySue on January 23, 2010, 20:43
Hey, I just realised I've got a Dreamstime rank, and it's not even the lowest for downloads!
I've never had an image uploaded, far less downloaded on DT, and the lst time I looked I was n/a for DT, which I checked is still the status showing for another group member I know has always been an iStock exclusive.
Just pointing this out as I don't want an iStock exclusive witch-hunt.
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: tamasvargyasi on January 24, 2010, 04:31
Dreamstime
    Sales - 321 / 361
    Uploads - 315 / 361

iStockPhoto
    Sales - 358 / 411
    Uploads - 365 / 411

I`m not very proud about my ranks, but I don`t mind to share!
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: leaf on January 24, 2010, 11:06
I have been tinkering with the system a bit this weekend, which is why there is that mistake - it is showing everyone with 0 portfolio and 0 sales in the ranking.  I'll get it fixed right away.
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: leaf on January 24, 2010, 13:10
OK, it should be fixed now.  Let me know if you see any problems.
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: leaf on January 24, 2010, 13:49
Dreamstime
    Sales - 321 / 361
    Uploads - 315 / 361

iStockPhoto
    Sales - 358 / 411
    Uploads - 365 / 411

I`m not very proud about my ranks, but I don`t mind to share!

we all have to start somewhere!
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: Noodles on January 24, 2010, 17:37
its not showing my dials - I have my ports hidden only!
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: madelaide on January 24, 2010, 18:44
I'm an average person.  ;D

Dreamstime
    Sales    141 / 355
    Uploads    222 / 355
iStockPhoto
    Sales    186 / 408
    Uploads    238 / 408

(Totals have diminished, is it because of the people who hide their numbers?)
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: donding on January 24, 2010, 19:29
Your numbers are better than mine madelaide....

Dreamstime
    Sales 235 / 356
    Uploads 231 / 356
iStockPhoto
    Sales 288 / 408
    Uploads 274 / 408

Hopefully once I get a new or repaired lens I can get to shooting again and uploading again and not spending so much time on here ::)
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: elvinstar on January 24, 2010, 23:09
I'm doing better than I thought!

Dreamstime
    Sales    73 / 357
    Uploads    88 / 357
iStockPhoto
    Sales    111 / 409
    Uploads    86 / 409
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: leaf on January 25, 2010, 07:40
its not showing my dials - I have my ports hidden only!


you haven't entered any of your portfolio user names on this page
http://www.microstockgroup.com/profile/?sa=forumProfile (http://www.microstockgroup.com/profile/?sa=forumProfile)
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: leaf on January 25, 2010, 07:41


(Totals have diminished, is it because of the people who hide their numbers?)

No, it's because i fixed the code so that it didn't include people without a portfolio
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: leaf on January 25, 2010, 07:42
There is now a "Rank" heading on the top of the site - where you can see how you compare to everyone else.  It will also show the change from week to week (starting next week)
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: tamasvargyasi on January 25, 2010, 08:19
Very nice, I think the user will love it.
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: Stu49 on January 25, 2010, 10:39
There is now a "Rank" heading on the top of the site - where you can see how you compare to everyone else.  It will also show the change from week to week (starting next week)

I start searching from the bottom, and work my way up ! ;)


Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: Lee Torrens on January 25, 2010, 23:39
Tyler, the rank pages are very cool.  Thankyou! 

One little bug - on the iStock page the usernames are linked to Dreamstime searches.
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: leaf on January 26, 2010, 01:45
Tyler, the rank pages are very cool.  Thankyou! 

One little bug - on the iStock page the usernames are linked to Dreamstime searches.

yeah - perhaps they should be linked to a profile page instead, but they search for the users images, which is what they were meant to do, although perhaps that is confusing?!
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: leaf on January 26, 2010, 01:46
There is now a "Rank" heading on the top of the site - where you can see how you compare to everyone else.  It will also show the change from week to week (starting next week)

I start searching from the bottom, and work my way up ! ;)




well I just learned I have a totally rotten overall DPI (downloads per image) That is obviously something I can improve!
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: Randy McKown on January 26, 2010, 02:16
There is now a "Rank" heading on the top of the site - where you can see how you compare to everyone else.  It will also show the change from week to week (starting next week)

I start searching from the bottom, and work my way up ! ;)




well I just learned I have a totally rotten overall DPI (downloads per image) That is obviously something I can improve!

Ok here's what you need to do to solve the problem. Go to dreamstime and just head right into your management area and click the online files button. Now click on the title to sort files by downloads. The next thing you should do is select all the images with no sales .... now delete them all. LOL your DPI will skyrocket  ;D

I think that's a pretty solid plan. I tell ya what since you and me are tied for DPI at DT you go ahead and try it first and then let me know if it works out.
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: leaf on January 26, 2010, 02:33
There is now a "Rank" heading on the top of the site - where you can see how you compare to everyone else.  It will also show the change from week to week (starting next week)

I start searching from the bottom, and work my way up ! ;)




well I just learned I have a totally rotten overall DPI (downloads per image) That is obviously something I can improve!

Ok here's what you need to do to solve the problem. Go to dreamstime and just head right into your management area and click the online files button. Now click on the title to sort files by downloads. The next thing you should do is select all the images with no sales .... now delete them all. LOL your DPI will skyrocket  ;D

I think that's a pretty solid plan. I tell ya what since you and me are tied for DPI at DT you go ahead and try it first and then let me know if it works out.

well I am sure it would work :)  I wondered though, sometimes, if that wouldn't be such a dumb plan.  If I upload 50 landscape from a trip for example - landscapes generally don't sell that great, but sometimes they do.  If I have 50 to choose from then the buyers may make 200 purchases of my landscape but they will be spread over 50 images giving only 4 sales per image.  If I had only 5 landscape then I would get 40 sales per landscape and that would push the images into a higher level on DT.  I am exaggerating a bit, but I wonder if the idea of 'less is more' is the best strategy.

The one thing that keeps stopping me is always being surprised when an image starts to sell really well that I never thought would sell that great.
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: Randy McKown on January 26, 2010, 03:24
well I am sure it would work :)  I wondered though, sometimes, if that wouldn't be such a dumb plan.  If I upload 50 landscape from a trip for example - landscapes generally don't sell that great, but sometimes they do.  If I have 50 to choose from then the buyers may make 200 purchases of my landscape but they will be spread over 50 images giving only 4 sales per image.  If I had only 5 landscape then I would get 40 sales per landscape and that would push the images into a higher level on DT.  I am exaggerating a bit, but I wonder if the idea of 'less is more' is the best strategy.

The one thing that keeps stopping me is always being surprised when an image starts to sell really well that I never thought would sell that great.

I think it would actually work but only for some people. Like on DT I know that even though my DPI is only 2.5 about 80% of my sales are all XL, Max & this week I'm seeing TIFF sales (btw, are those new or something because I've never seen them before) anyway my point is my sub sales are around 10-12% and small-med is maybe 5% and large 5% of the total sales. So if I removed all the 0 sales then chances are I would lose a lot of higher-credit sales so there's a greater risk involved ... I know I've heard others talking about getting crazy sub sales like over 60% .. if that was the case then I would definitely think removing a lot of the 0 sales would be a good idea because they now have a better fighting chance of eventually getting closer to making a dollar per download.

I don't know .. I'm not brave enough to take the risk on something like that. After all it only takes the right person to throw a shot with 0 sales in their public collection one day and then you suddenly get a couple 50 credit EL's from it out of nowhere ... that and going through and deleting files seems like a lot of work. I have to force myself to upload as it is LOL
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: leaf on January 26, 2010, 03:45
yeah, the TIFF sales are new.  They started with the recent price increase. 

I know what you mean though - I don't dare delete things either.  I don't mind the database cleaning DT is doing though.  It is a good and fair way to clean out the old files that are not selling.
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: Stu49 on January 26, 2010, 05:12
It would be good if USER could also be sorted alphabetically !?  If I want to see how well U are doing I have to search (from the top of course ;)

Also the Rank dropdown doesn't seem to size very well, when I increase font size !?  :)

Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: vonkara on January 26, 2010, 11:53
Why am I last again at Istock, it seem like my username stats do not stay more than 12 hours..
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: leaf on January 26, 2010, 13:16
Why am I last again at Istock, it seem like my username stats do not stay more than 12 hours..

because I was fiddling with the system again and broke things.  It is fixed now - your stats should be displayed correctly and should be updated correctly too.
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: leaf on January 26, 2010, 13:16
It would be good if USER could also be sorted alphabetically !?  If I want to see how well U are doing I have to search (from the top of course ;)

Also the Rank dropdown doesn't seem to size very well, when I increase font size !?  :)



can you send me a screen shot or something?  how is it looking bad?
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: vonkara on January 26, 2010, 13:43
Why am I last again at Istock, it seem like my username stats do not stay more than 12 hours..

because I was fiddling with the system again and broke things.  It is fixed now - your stats should be displayed correctly and should be updated correctly too.

Yea thanks!
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: Stu49 on January 26, 2010, 14:28
It would be good if USER could also be sorted alphabetically !?  If I want to see how well U are doing I have to search (from the top of course ;)

Also the Rank dropdown doesn't seem to size very well, when I increase font size !?  :)



can you send me a screen shot or something?  how is it looking bad?

Don't have any way of doing selective screenshot at the mo, but if u Zoom in using FF the agency names enlarge but NOT the enclosing dropdown box.  Hope that helps :)

Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: Lee Torrens on January 26, 2010, 21:50
Tyler, the rank pages are very cool.  Thankyou! 

One little bug - on the iStock page the usernames are linked to Dreamstime searches.

yeah - perhaps they should be linked to a profile page instead, but they search for the users images, which is what they were meant to do, although perhaps that is confusing?!

Sorry, I could have made that more clear.  It's not the search vs profile page I was pointing out.  It's that on the iStock rank page they link to searches at Dreamstime, not iStock like one would expect.  i.e. Why search for SJLocke images at Dreamstime.

 :)
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: leaf on January 27, 2010, 01:43
Tyler, the rank pages are very cool.  Thankyou!  

One little bug - on the iStock page the usernames are linked to Dreamstime searches.

yeah - perhaps they should be linked to a profile page instead, but they search for the users images, which is what they were meant to do, although perhaps that is confusing?!

Sorry, I could have made that more clear.  It's not the search vs profile page I was pointing out.  It's that on the iStock rank page they link to searches at Dreamstime, not iStock like one would expect.  i.e. Why search for SJLocke images at Dreamstime.

 :)

ahhh haaha.. yes, that is a problem.  will get right to it!

and now that I read it again you DID say iStock - i just missed it last time.

edit:  It is fixed now
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: Stu49 on January 28, 2010, 05:40
Just looked at the ranking for iStock and found one guy who has 637 images online but no downloads, according to the rankings, but if u click his name and go to IS it says he he has >6700 downloads !?

How can this be  ???  Surely this makes a farce of the rankings !?


p.s. got my first sale at IS yesterday and still no guage under my avatar !?  :(

Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: leaf on January 28, 2010, 06:33
Just looked at the ranking for iStock and found one guy who has 637 images online but no downloads, according to the rankings, but if u click his name and go to IS it says he he has >6700 downloads !?

How can this be  ???  Surely this makes a farce of the rankings !?


p.s. got my first sale at IS yesterday and still no guage under my avatar !?  :(



Thanks for finding the error.  The ranking updater was getting stuck on someone who didn't have a username.  I have fixed it so it should be updating properly in the future.

The updates are only run once per day to keep the load light on iStock and Dreamstime, so you might not see immediate results if you get a sale.  i see you have a gauge now though.
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: Stu49 on January 28, 2010, 07:07
i see you have a gauge now though.

NO !! not here anyway !?  Only the DT one :(

Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: leaf on January 28, 2010, 07:21
i see you have a gauge now though.

NO !! not here anyway !?  Only the DT one :(

ah yes, you are right.  It should be there in a few hours when the stats are updated again.  If not I will check it out again.
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: Stu49 on January 28, 2010, 08:25
i see you have a gauge now though.

NO !! not here anyway !?  Only the DT one :(

ah yes, you are right.  It should be there in a few hours when the stats are updated again.  If not I will check it out again.


I look forward to that !  ;D

Just noticed there's nothing showing on your IS ranking for <10 d/ls !!  is that the start point !?

Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: Stu49 on January 29, 2010, 07:52
i see you have a gauge now though.

NO !! not here anyway !?  Only the DT one :(

ah yes, you are right.  It should be there in a few hours when the stats are updated again.  If not I will check it out again.


1 day later !!  and still nothing :(

Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: cascoly on January 31, 2010, 12:35
?? all the istock sales numbers are rounded [down?] to hundreds - eg i have 698 sales, but it displays as 600.  the portfolio numbers are exact

bug or feature?
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: Stu49 on January 31, 2010, 13:58
i see you have a gauge now though.

NO !! not here anyway !?  Only the DT one :(

ah yes, you are right.  It should be there in a few hours when the stats are updated again.  If not I will check it out again.


Several days later, 2 sales !  and still no guage !!  :(
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: leaf on February 01, 2010, 06:52
your gauge is now live.  I found a couple more bugs.  thanks for the patience.
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: Stu49 on February 01, 2010, 06:53
your gauge is now live.  I found a couple more bugs.  thanks for the patience.

Cheers !   ;D
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: leaf on February 01, 2010, 08:08
?? all the istock sales numbers are rounded [down?] to hundreds - eg i have 698 sales, but it displays as 600.  the portfolio numbers are exact

bug or feature?


neither really.  iStock doesn't display your specific sales details.  They round it to the nearest 1000, 100, 10 etc. depending on the amount of your sales.  The rank then just takes what is shown.  When you view your own profile you see the exact number of downloads you have.

I have 11810 sales
http://www.istockphoto.com/leaf (http://www.istockphoto.com/leaf)

but you probably only see 11000 sales
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: LostOne on February 04, 2010, 07:26
What happened to the ranks?
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: mantonino on February 04, 2010, 07:27
Mine says N/A as well.
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: tamasvargyasi on February 04, 2010, 07:30
Doesn`t work for me either.
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: leaf on February 04, 2010, 08:03
I guess they should say temporarily out of order - because that is what they are.  I was having problems with them stealing all the system resources and bringing the site to it's knees.  I have to do a little fixing.
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: maigi on February 06, 2010, 13:56
Hi Leaf,
Could you tell me please, how can I remove my name from rank listing?
Thanks,
maigi
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: FD on February 06, 2010, 17:40
Could you tell me please, how can I remove my name from rank listing?
Only you can see your rank. Others can't. That's why this thread was made, for people that want to communicate it.
Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: leaf on February 06, 2010, 18:16
Could you tell me please, how can I remove my name from rank listing?
Only you can see your rank. Others can't. That's why this thread was made, for people that want to communicate it.

yep, your name shouldn't be in the ranking list if it was never entered.  The rank list isn't working right now either so it for sure won't be there :)

But if you HAD entered your portfolio info into your profile and wanted to remove your name from the ranking you could either just remove your portfolio info or click the boxes on the bottom that say ' don't include me in the ranking etc.'

Title: Re: MicrostockGroup Rank - What's yours
Post by: maigi on February 07, 2010, 14:21
Could you tell me please, how can I remove my name from rank listing?
Only you can see your rank. Others can't. That's why this thread was made, for people that want to communicate it.
Oh, that's nice. I didn't know. Thanks, guys!