Quote from: AttilaTheNun on October 14, 2011, 19:44

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You're back!

No he is not, I like FD better!

Yeah, dude, what's with all of the identity changes?

I passed by Thailand and had a sex change. They asked me if I wanted to change my mind but I said no thanks, I'm quite happy with the one I have now.   [End of off-topic]

What I really don't like is people having multiple aliases here.  I suppose the poll will be biased by all those anonymous people with multiple registrations here.  If confirmed ID's stopped that, I think it would be a good idea.

I'm a 100% with you on that. Maybe the confirmation could be required by Leaf and he would have all the information on file but keep it confidential. In other words, if John Doe gives his real name and address, etc. and Leaf confirms that by whatever methods he needs to, and John Doe says he is going to use the name JohnAnonymous as a screen name, that's it. John Doe doesn't get to keep registering. It will require more admin work on Leaf's part, but at least we will know the polls are more correct and we won't have to keep seeing trolls come back reincarnated.

edit: I realized I missed a couple of pages of posts. Went back and re-read, and my comment above has already been mentioned by a couple of others.

I think the ignore button is a great idea, I think being able to see how many ignores a person has is a great idea. But really, when it comes down to it, how reliable is it, actually? I see that JoAnn and Lisafx have almost as many ignores as I do, and yet you can't find two more professional, down-to-earth, and well-spoken people.

Thanks Cathy, but exactly the same can be said about you and lots of others here too. 

The point was made above that a lot of the ignores came around the same time, and are probably the same vindictive person with multiple identities.  But for the rest of the ignores, I think anyone who speaks their mind is bound to anger a few people now and then.  Only alternative is to just lurk, or never post anything of substance that anyone could disagree with.

But I do take your point that the ignore button is definitely not a panacea.  For example, if you have Sunnymars/pseudonymous/etc. on ignore, you would still have been subjected to the petulant rambling postings of Bettan until you realized it was the same person. 

I think the ignore button is a great idea, I think being able to see how many ignores a person has is a great idea. But really, when it comes down to it, how reliable is it, actually?.....

It is all a bit random, trolls get a lot of ignores, but if you look through some of the profiles some people get ignores for consistently looking into cases of image theft (the culprits like to ignore them out of spite) and others, like luissantos84, seem to have had a load of people ignoring them just for asking why they had some other people ignoring them! (i.e. just out of mischievousness)

Quote from: sharpshot on October 14, 2011, 07:30

What I really don't like is people having multiple aliases here.  I suppose the poll will be biased by all those anonymous people with multiple registrations here.  If confirmed ID's stopped that, I think it would be a good idea.

A way of stopping multiple identities would be to make it only possible to be anonymous if we pay to become Premium members.  Just about anybody can afford to pay once a year but nobody would want to have to keep paying it everytime they change their identity.

That's an excellent idea!

edit: posted at the same time as Paulie.

Thanks Cathy, but exactly the same can be said about you and lots of others here too. 

Thanks, and most definitely. Lots of good people here. I just picked you two as an example.

As a member, I don't see that I'm hurt in any way by any number of ignores of me.

Number of useful posts is a much better gauge of people.

Quote from: fotografer on October 15, 2011, 09:36

Quote from: sharpshot on October 14, 2011, 07:30

What I really don't like is people having multiple aliases here.  I suppose the poll will be biased by all those anonymous people with multiple registrations here.  If confirmed ID's stopped that, I think it would be a good idea.

A way of stopping multiple identities would be to make it only possible to be anonymous if we pay to become Premium members.  Just about anybody can afford to pay once a year but nobody would want to have to keep paying it everytime they change their identity.

Or anyone wanting to remain anonymous pay a $5 fee should they not want to confirm identity to Tyler. That should be fair enough and better control of things.

And it should be so indicated to the rest of the forum that they are NOT confirmed.

Quote from: ProArtwork on October 15, 2011, 12:41

Or anyone wanting to remain anonymous pay a $5 fee should they not want to confirm identity to Tyler. That should be fair enough and better control of things.

This makes no sense to me. How does that help the forums and their operation? Some troll with enough money to pay, even multiple times, could still cause trouble for the rest of us who are just trying to keep tabs on the industry we're in. Seems more like a fine for doing something you don't like.

I do like the idea of just noting whether someone has a confirmed identity or not with a graphic of some sort. Someone who wants to remain anonymous and not confirm their identity could do so but you are informing readers of that.

Yep, I agree.

Quote from: jsnover on October 15, 2011, 14:10

Quote from: ProArtwork on October 15, 2011, 12:41

Or anyone wanting to remain anonymous pay a $5 fee should they not want to confirm identity to Tyler. That should be fair enough and better control of things.

This makes no sense to me. How does that help the forums and their operation? Some troll with enough money to pay, even multiple times, could still cause trouble for the rest of us who are just trying to keep tabs on the industry we're in. Seems more like a fine for doing something you don't like.

I do like the idea of just noting whether someone has a confirmed identity or not with a graphic of some sort. Someone who wants to remain anonymous and not confirm their identity could do so but you are informing readers of that.

Yep, I agree.

Both of me agree too. I mean, ah... nevermind. 

Yes the troll fee or anti-troll fee would be a way to support Leaf for the extra work he has to do to monitor and remove posts. Seems simple enough. Want to be anonymous, pay for membership and small maintenance fee, nothing huge please. Just enough to make it so people won't keep coming back with a new name every few months. And so the people who are in fear of agency retaliation don't have to get stuck for a big fee to protect their interests. Fair enough.

There's always the problem that people who have a good reason in their own mind, or people who just want to be anonymous for personal reasons, will be penalized because of someone else who's slightly abusive. Too bad that the good people get caught up in the fees because of actions of the others.

Maybe a better way would be pay as you go. Removed messages or locked threads, you get a small parking ticket and your account is locked until you pay the fine. That way honest people who want to protect them self from potential site retaliation, wouldn't have to pay anything.

I still find it upsetting and sad that artists have to live in fear of an agency, which is relying on us for materials! 16 tons what do you get? And speak badly about the boss, you may be removed and become a non-person. That's terrible! Maybe some day the people who say they got threatening emails from some agency can have someone else post them, so we can know the source. I already dropped the one that publicly said they would close accounts for what people wrote in other forums. FT doesn't miss me, I don't miss them. Fine mutual deal. Just wondering if there are any others who are creepy like that?

Quote from: cclapper on October 15, 2011, 14:00

And it should be so indicated to the rest of the forum that they are NOT confirmed.

This is a great idea!  Just as we have the "premium member" designation under our names, we could also have "confirmed" or "unconfirmed".  I don't know that people should have to pay to be unconfirmed.  The designation would probably do the trick all by itself.

LOL...And this from the some of the friendliest members on the boards.

Tongue in cheek- Why stop there, if we fail to expose ourselves for scrutiny you could brand our foreheads with U's and ban us from the forums. ;P Yep that free google plus circle seems friendlier and more productive all the time.

Quote from: gbalex on October 15, 2011, 19:55

Quote from: lisafx on October 15, 2011, 18:29

Quote from: cclapper on October 15, 2011, 14:00

And it should be so indicated to the rest of the forum that they are NOT confirmed.

This is a great idea!  Just as we have the "premium member" designation under our names, we could also have "confirmed" or "unconfirmed".  I don't know that people should have to pay to be unconfirmed.  The designation would probably do the trick all by itself.

LOL...And this from the some of the friendliest members on the boards.

Tongue in cheek- Why stop there, if we fail to expose ourselves for scrutiny you could brand our foreheads with U's and ban us from the forums. ;P Yep that free google plus circle seems friendlier and more productive all the time.

Tongue in cheek...why thank you! 

Or, if you want friendly, head on over to the istock forum. Everyone is very friendly there, too!

except the admins