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« on: October 20, 2007, 18:22 »
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I have wanted to do this for a while, and THIS THREAD got me motivated.

I am happy to announce that the polls are now open :)
You can get to them by clicking the 'polls' link at the top of the page, or by clicking here.

Results are posted here, but there is also a link on the 'polls' page you should be able to find.

Let me know if you have any problems or if you have any suggestions as to how to make it better - or if you don't understand anything.  I plan to integrate the poll results into the site a little better later on - and add the rest of the sites (or at least most of them) into the voting.  Perhaps I could say this is the 'beta' mode that seems like such a popular phrase for the time being.

May the best stock site win :)

NOTE: you can only fill in the fields in one poll at a time before you click submit.  if you fill in more than one they will be ignored - if that didn't make sense you will figure it out soon enough.
« Last Edit: October 20, 2007, 18:26 by leaf »


« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2007, 19:15 »
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Very nice.

One comment: The last question can be taken a few different ways.  I understood the word "performance" to mean how fast the website was in responding to requests.  You could also take the word "performance" to mean how much money you make there.  I would suggest trying to clarify that question a little better.

« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2007, 19:39 »
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Done.

I'm curious about some results.  FT gets less that IS in consistency review.  I have a low rejection rate in FT, is it not common?  In BigStock also, rejections are very low (I gave it a 10, although it isn't necessarily a good thing - but it's consistent!).

Regards,
Adelaide

dbvirago

« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2007, 19:40 »
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Step 1. Take Poll
Step 2. Screw it up
Step 3. Read Instructions
Step 4. Take Poll

« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2007, 20:14 »
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Done.

vonkara

« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2007, 20:32 »
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For now there is not very much vote (about 10) but I'm happy to see IS not be even one time the best of his category. But I'm having problem whit the review consistency thing... FT at the end?? I see a lot more IS or SX at this position.

But that's democracy...it's sometime surprising

digiology

« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2007, 21:43 »
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Done! The last question I found too similar to the "website user interface" question. (or I am missing something  ???)

I have never dealt with customer service at any sites so I did not vote. I do however appreciate steve-ohs consistent posts here (and on stockxpert) and must give them kudos for that.

« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2007, 00:32 »
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Done ....   Interesting results...   thank you, sir!!  -tom

« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2007, 01:49 »
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Congratulations to SS they are winning every single category.

« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2007, 02:37 »
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I don't know how the StockXpert upload is behind the SS one, I find it much easier.

« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2007, 05:54 »
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It looks like there has been at least 31 voters so far - so things seem to be working.  Would be good to get at least 100 votes though so we can see a 'real' average.

with the 'overall' category i just wanted sort of an overall rating for the site.  i thought about trying to calculate one automatically - which is perhaps what i should do but then the various catagories whould be weighted different.  Earnings is perhaps one of the most important factors so it should be weighted heavier. - so in the end I decided to just let everyone vote for their 'overall opinion' of a site.

I am not sure the best way to word it though, so if anyone has any suggestions feel free to voice them.  Or if there are poll categories I missed - let me know of any suggestions.
« Last Edit: October 21, 2007, 05:57 by leaf »

« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2007, 08:23 »
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Nice poll, thanks.

« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2007, 08:39 »
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with the 'overall' category i just wanted sort of an overall rating for the site.  i thought about trying to calculate one automatically - which is perhaps what i should do but then the various catagories whould be weighted different.  Earnings is perhaps one of the most important factors so it should be weighted heavier. - so in the end I decided to just let everyone vote for their 'overall opinion' of a site.

Heres an idea for a calculation:

Earnings x 5
Upload x 1.5
Service x .5
Consistency x 1
Website x 1.5

42
13.05
3.75
8.1
12.45

Shutterstock = 79.35

29.5
11.1
2.65
6.9
11.25

Dreamstime = 61.40

36.5
5.25
2.65
6.6
10.95

Istockphoto = 61.95

25
11.7
3.4
4.6
11.25

StockXpert = 55.95

25
8.85
2.35
6.3
8.85

Fotolia = 51.35

19
9.9
3.15
7.4
9.15

Bigstockphoto = 48.60

You can add overall in there somewhere too, that might make it more accurate.
« Last Edit: October 21, 2007, 08:41 by Kngkyle »

« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2007, 08:46 »
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I don't know how the StockXpert upload is behind the SS one, I find it much easier.

Sharpshot...  that's one of the things I enjoy and find interesting about polls and opinion surveys.  Quite often I find the overall results far different than what I thought they'd easily be... LOL 
   I'm going to like this feature.  It should spark some interesting discussion .     -tom

« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2007, 08:48 »
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Ok :-)

I think the ease of upload should be rated heavier (x3?).
Don't care about the web-interface so much (x.5?).

« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2007, 08:54 »
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Ok :-)

I think the ease of upload should be rated heavier (x3?).
Don't care about the web-interface so much (x.5?).


Opla...     makes my exact point right here.  Now we are debating how heavy to weigh each category...  example, I agree with ... her (?? taking a leap here because of the avatar, which then again really means nothing either as far as gender goes...) okay I agree with Opla (that'll keep me out of trouble)  ... I agree with Opla that web-interface is not as big a deal to me... but I wouldn't say  ease of upload,  I would say consistency...that irks the poop out of me.
         Point... these polls are going to be great reading!!   
     LOL  -tom
« Last Edit: October 21, 2007, 08:58 by a.k.a.-tom »

« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2007, 08:54 »
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Ok :-)

I think the ease of upload should be rated heavier (x3?).
Don't care about the web-interface so much (x.5?).


yeah i thought the same.  Ease of uploading is a BIG factor when submitting to numerous sites.  If they were all as hard as shutterstock we could only feaseably upload to 3or4 sites.  When they are as easy as crestock, lucky oliver or stockxpert it is a breeze to get your portfolio online.  After, we are photographers - not 'image uploaders' - anything to make computer time for efficient is welcomed.

« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2007, 09:06 »
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Leaf makes a great point too!  I'd be interested in hearing others numbers on that.  Wife and I were talking about it this weekend..
    How much time do you spend actual shooting versus post-work (including uploading)?
      I rough guessed  almost  2 to 1... every two hours shooting I spend at least an hour in post-work.. Some of the uploads are a real pain in the sitting area, some like LO are a snap. Hey,  I'm going to start a new thread on this question..    sorry to go off on a tangent here..

now back to polls!!      8)-tom

p.s.  consistency still irks me more than ease of upload... LOL

« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2007, 09:17 »
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I think earnings should have the highest weight percentage. If you increase the weight of ease of upload then that reduces the weight for earnings. I would much rather spend time uploading to a site like iStock (which is a royal pain in the ass) than to a site like Crestock. Reason being, the uploads on iStock will actually make you money, the time you spent on Crestock will get you hardly anything.

(I do upload to Crestock, and have nothing against them.)

Website should be more than .5 (as suggested by some) because having the ability to edit your files information easily and check detailed statistics is important, in my opinion at least. Certainly weighted more than .5.

« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2007, 09:21 »
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Ok, so something like

Earnings x 6
Upload x 3
Service x .5
Consistency x 1
Website x 1


« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2007, 09:59 »
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you make a good point that webiste is important.  I dread ever wanting to try and delete or edit a photo on shutterstock.  To try and figure out which upload batch it is in is nearly impossible...

here is my suggestions (out of 10)

earnings x 5
upload x 2
service x 1
consistency x 1
website x 1

« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2007, 10:07 »
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you make a good point that webiste is important.  I dread ever wanting to try and delete or edit a photo on shutterstock.  To try and figure out which upload batch it is in is nearly impossible...

here is my suggestions (out of 10)

earnings x 5
upload x 2
service x 1
consistency x 1
website x 1


That seems good. Now somehow make it work.  ;)
Something like what gamesbids has for bid index would be awesome, but I have no idea how that works. http://www.gamesbids.com <-- can see it on the right.

« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2007, 10:09 »
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yeah i plan on doing that actually - but i need time before it will work.  if I am going to say that a site went up or down a certain % then I have to compare it to a time before.  I have planned to compare the sites to themselves month by month - so as soon as next months voting starts we can see which sites have gone up and down.  I think this will be most interesting in regards to earnings, but will also be interesting to see peoples opinions on things like user interface and site design when sites change their layout.

« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2007, 13:34 »
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I think we need a poll for the weights in the averaging formula.  :D

Regards,
Adelaide

« Reply #24 on: October 21, 2007, 15:23 »
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I agree that the results should be weighted.  The key component is MONEY.  An agency might have the best web site and customer service in the world, but if they cannot sell one's pictures all of that is pointless.

On the other hand if an agency is very successful in selling and generates a very good economic return on one's images, then complex uploading procedures and/or high quality requirements are worth the effort.


 

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