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Title: Crapware Article - Java 7 Free Update link
Post by: RacePhoto on January 15, 2013, 11:12

Interesting about why companies tag this on and also notice that they don't with some Apple versions, just us Microsoft suckers?

http://www.zdnet.com/why-does-crapware-still-exist-follow-the-silicon-valley-money-trail-7000009830/?s_cid=e539 (http://www.zdnet.com/why-does-crapware-still-exist-follow-the-silicon-valley-money-trail-7000009830/?s_cid=e539)

Oracle this week released an update for its widely used Java software, fixing a zero-day vulnerability that was being actively exploited to install malware via drive-by downloads.

ps Java Version 7 update 11 and watch out because Cnet is good but sometimes, they also offer tool bar monetizing with their downloads. Just learn to click NO and uncheck the default install boxes that try to get you to add on CrapWare!

http://download.cnet.com/Java-Runtime-Environment-JRE/3000-2378_4-10009607.html (http://download.cnet.com/Java-Runtime-Environment-JRE/3000-2378_4-10009607.html)

Title: Re: Crapware Article - Java 7 Free Update link
Post by: stockastic on January 15, 2013, 11:19

Cr@pware bugs the h&ell out of me.  I shut off all Adobe updates some time ago because of this junk.   Over the years I've spent many hours cleaning up new PCs bought by friends and relatives.  So-called antivirus products by McAfee and Symantec can be particularly hard to remove - and as we all know by now, are ineffective:

http://www.techcentral.ie/20394/antivirus-software-so-ineffective-its-a-waste-of-money (http://www.techcentral.ie/20394/antivirus-software-so-ineffective-its-a-waste-of-money)

I think cr@pware is something MS needs to deal with, agressively, if they're going to gain ground (or stop losing ground) against Apple in the retail market.   Note that if you buy a PC or tablet in one of the Microsoft stores - it's totally clean.

Title: Re: Crapware Article - Java 7 Free Update link
Post by: heywoody on January 17, 2013, 11:45

I'm not inclined to be too critical about this when very useful software is being provided totally free otherwise and you can always untick the installer  ;D 

Title: Re: Crapware Article - Java 7 Free Update link
Post by: stockastic on January 17, 2013, 14:44

Quote from: heywoody on January 17, 2013, 11:45

very useful software is being provided totally free...

That never happens.  :-)   The software we're talking about is invariably useless browser toolbars and other attempts to redirect your searches.

In the case of crapware attached to recent Adobe updates you were NOT able to decline - there was no checkbox.  There's a thread on Adobe's forum regarding this.

Title: Re: Crapware Article - Java 7 Free Update link
Post by: heywoody on January 17, 2013, 15:32

Guess I'm thinking more of the Sun / Oracle side of things - complete development kit including IDE - I mean Visual Studio has to cost a bit more than being hit with an unwanted toolbar  ;D

Title: Re: Crapware Article - Java 7 Free Update link
Post by: stockastic on January 17, 2013, 17:08

Quote from: heywoody on January 17, 2013, 15:32

Guess I'm thinking more of the Sun / Oracle side of things - complete development kit including IDE - I mean Visual Studio has to cost a bit more than being hit with an unwanted toolbar  ;D

??

Oracle is giving away Visual Studio?

Title: Re: Crapware Article - Java 7 Free Update link
Post by: heywoody on January 18, 2013, 04:51

* no  :D  Just comparing the free SDK / IDE with the cost of tooling up for .NET