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« Reply #25 on: September 18, 2013, 11:04 »
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I don't want to go to the cloud either and I'll stick with CS6 as long as I can but I know I'll eventually be forced to do something different.  Adobe refuses to support new cameras in older versions of their products.  I was perfectly happy with CS4 but I was forced to go to CS6 when I got my 5D Mark III.  Eventually I'll upgrade to a new camera body and I'll be forced to make a move again.  I hate that.

FYI, I was able to get support for a newer camera (Nikon D800) and lens (Nikon 70-200mm F/4) without paying for an upgrade.  I'm running CS5; when I installed the free 30 day trial of CS6 it installed the latest camera profiles, including the one I needed.  I recently installed the trial of CC, which added support for my new lens.  Adobe keeps all the Camera Raw support files in one location, so the old version gets the new profiles when you install newer software, even if you don't license it.


« Reply #26 on: September 18, 2013, 11:35 »
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Adobe acquired Macromedia with good product called Lightroom which allow them to enter niche they were not present before. Now they dominated this market and no competitor can get close to their product because they used code from other product that was already dominant. Soon they will kill off competitors there too. Nobody can stop then unless they collapse which might be beneficial to customers. When Kodak bankrupted its products did not go away. Other companies picked up bits and pieces and nobody cries after fallen giant.

« Reply #27 on: September 18, 2013, 11:45 »
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Adobe acquired Macromedia with good product called Lightroom which allow them to enter niche they were not present before. Now they dominated this market and no competitor can get close to their product because they used code from other product that was already dominant. Soon they will kill off competitors there too. Nobody can stop then unless they collapse which might be beneficial to customers. When Kodak bankrupted its products did not go away. Other companies picked up bits and pieces and nobody cries after fallen giant.

I think the thing is a lot of those acquisitions weren't bad for consumers. Instead of having to buy Dreamweaver or Flash separately, you could get it bundled. Same thing with the fall of Quark. Not saying it is all roses, but it used to cost a bunch to buy all this software (even in box form) from a multitude of companies.

tab62

« Reply #28 on: September 18, 2013, 11:49 »
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thanks Ron! Just got it today by checking for updates. You were right about the newer version...

« Reply #29 on: September 18, 2013, 12:03 »
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Wed Sep 18, 2013 7:35am EDT
From Reuters:

** ADOBE SYSTEMS INC, Tuesday close $48.14, up 6 pct after market

The company, known for its Photoshop and Acrobat software, expects subscriber growth to top the 331,000 it added in the third quarter due to strong demand from corporate customers.


It seems the Market is a believer in Adobe's direction . . . . .

« Reply #30 on: September 18, 2013, 12:07 »
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I must be the only one here that is a CC subscriber, is happy with the product and doesn't mind the $50 a month cost.  :o


« Reply #31 on: September 18, 2013, 20:43 »
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Perhaps!  I see no problem in them offering it, just them removing the perpetual license.

« Reply #32 on: September 18, 2013, 21:14 »
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I must be the only one here that is a CC subscriber, is happy with the product and doesn't mind the $50 a month cost.  :o

You're not the only one. I use much more than just Photoshop and Lightroom, though. That makes it a much better deal for me.

« Reply #33 on: September 19, 2013, 04:26 »
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Perhaps!  I see no problem in them offering it, just them removing the perpetual license.
Only so long before that'll be reinstated at a guess. I can't see the $9.99 a month offer being much of a deal for them. It values the software at $120 an upgrade (if you reckon on yearly upgrades), instead of several hundred dollars. If I could get PS and LR outright for 120 over here (that's another thing why do dollars always get changed to Pounds with a 1:1 exchange rate?) I'd probably use them. I'm not having their hand in my pocket every month though. I don't personally "do" monthly payments for anything.
It is different if you need the software to collaborate with clients or associates though, and no doubt that Illustrator is the best vector package at the moment.
One thing that is sure, all these big software houses (and a few other types of business that spring to mind) don't do anything that doesn't directly benefit them.

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« Reply #34 on: September 19, 2013, 06:33 »
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Slightly off topic, but CR 8.1 is now only available through updates in CS6,
or CC.

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« Reply #35 on: September 19, 2013, 06:43 »
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I must be the only one here that is a CC subscriber, is happy with the product and doesn't mind the $50 a month cost.  :o

You're not the only one. I use much more than just Photoshop and Lightroom, though. That makes it a much better deal for me.

I do freelance design so it works for me too! In fact I love it! Has anyone tried Photoshop Touch?

One of the great features about cloud is the 20gigs of storage space available. You can upload your work files there, PS, Illustrator, Indesign and can then view them online from your iPad.

« Reply #36 on: September 19, 2013, 08:01 »
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I don't want to go to the cloud either and I'll stick with CS6 as long as I can but I know I'll eventually be forced to do something different.  Adobe refuses to support new cameras in older versions of their products.  I was perfectly happy with CS4 but I was forced to go to CS6 when I got my 5D Mark III.  Eventually I'll upgrade to a new camera body and I'll be forced to make a move again.  I hate that.

Actually you just need to upgrade Camera Raw, but some versions of camera raw only work with the latest PS.


« Reply #37 on: September 19, 2013, 08:08 »
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You do realize that there is more to the suite than just those 2 programs (not to mention storage and partner deals). I think the cloud is a great direction for them to pursue. It offers an endless supply of new products and services that they can test and implement while still maintaining and improving existing ones.

Yeah but i'm a photographer not a designer.
I mean if i really want i could do everything even with PhotoMechanic, i know pros doing it for wire news (Reuters, AFP, etc) or AcdSee Pro or Capture One or View NX or whatever.

Besides, all the best plugins for PS also run standalone so it's up to me to find the better workflow with alternative softwares.



KB

« Reply #38 on: September 19, 2013, 09:13 »
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Perhaps!  I see no problem in them offering it, just them removing the perpetual license.
Only so long before that'll be reinstated at a guess. I can't see the $9.99 a month offer being much of a deal for them. It values the software at $120 an upgrade (if you reckon on yearly upgrades), instead of several hundred dollars. If I could get PS and LR outright for 120 over here (that's another thing why do dollars always get changed to Pounds with a 1:1 exchange rate?) I'd probably use them.
No, it values the software at $120 per year.

Of course if you could get it for $120 (or even 120), you might buy it. But that's exactly what they don't want. Which is why you can get it for $120, but you get to use it only for one year. There's a huge difference.

« Reply #39 on: September 19, 2013, 12:01 »
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well, out of curiosity i'm downloading Corel Paint Shop Pro X6, let's see ...

« Reply #40 on: September 22, 2013, 14:02 »
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Will be interesting to see what you think - I mainly use capture NX2 and a bit of Paint Shop for a few things find it OK but a bit unstable but its a fraction of the price of photoshop and I don't do a heck of a lot of manipulation.

« Reply #41 on: September 22, 2013, 19:38 »
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I also use Capture NX2 extensively.  A great and unappreciated program that has unfortunately been allowed to die by Nikon.

BoBoBolinski

« Reply #42 on: September 23, 2013, 00:20 »
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A great and unappreciated program that has unfortunately been allowed to die by Nikon

Is this true? I use NX2 a lot and agree it's a great piece of software, I wasn't aware it had been allowed to die. If I Google it it seems available still and is supported and mentioned on the Nikon site.

« Reply #43 on: September 23, 2013, 05:03 »
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 "great and unappreciated program that has unfortunately been allowed to die by Nikon".... not dead but not updated for years other than for new cameras so it is gradually seeming outdated. However once you are used to it its a great piece of software still. The book by Mike Hagen is an  excellent guide.

« Reply #44 on: September 24, 2013, 13:17 »
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Isn't it Corel (PaintShop Pro 5 and 6 now) a fair alternative to Adobe? I work with corel and I"m quite satisfied. Ok, I not the ultimate specialist in IT and Photography and all but one Micro Stock photographer can do a pretty good job with it. Just saying...Once, a few years ago I've worked with Photoshop and a bit with Illustrator but now they are too * expensive for me...

ACS

« Reply #45 on: September 24, 2013, 13:43 »
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I must be the only one here that is a CC subscriber, is happy with the product and doesn't mind the $50 a month cost.  :o

I pay 17 $ for AI only. (I have Elements 11 and NX2 for photos, Premiere Elements 11 for videos.) I think it does worth the price.


 

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