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Agency Based Discussion => StockFresh => Topic started by: PokemonMaster on August 21, 2020, 00:00

Title: Is it dead?
Post by: PokemonMaster on August 21, 2020, 00:00
Is it dead? I have files in pending for almost a half-year. I wrote to support a few times during this period - no signs of life.
Now I don't touch anything. Just curious, how long can it take.
Title: Re: Is it dead?
Post by: Mantis on August 21, 2020, 08:22
I made about $1- $3 a month there. Been gone for several years.  They just never got any traction, showing how challenging (and expensive) it is to start a micro agency. 
Title: Re: Is it dead?
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on August 21, 2020, 17:43
I haven't uploaded in a long time, but sales do trickle in (last one was in June though).

I had been thinking at the next payout (about $12 to go) I'd close my account as sales had slowed so much.

In the past, they've always paid on time, but it'll be a while to get that last $12 with the current slow pace.

I wouldn't worry about the uploads as I don't think it will make any difference to sales :) Joking aside though, I wouldn't upload anything there at this point - there's nothing happening
Title: Re: Is it dead?
Post by: Microstock Posts on August 22, 2020, 23:49
I had been thinking at the next payout (about $12 to go) I'd close my account as sales had slowed so much.

Is deleting images from fair royalty sites with low earnings a view shared by other admins of the stock coalition or just your view point?

How does removing images from fair royalty sites benefit the cause of the stock coalition succinctly described in the tagline "get more for your work"?
Title: Re: Is it dead?
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on August 23, 2020, 12:01
I had been thinking at the next payout (about $12 to go) I'd close my account as sales had slowed so much.

Is deleting images from fair royalty sites with low earnings a view shared by other admins of the stock coalition or just your view point?

How does removing images from fair royalty sites benefit the cause of the stock coalition succinctly described in the tagline "get more for your work"?

This is just me posting about my accounts.

I've stuck with StockFresh since 2011. There were many promises about marketing efforts that would be made once the collection got to a certain size. We uploaded, the collection reached that size but the marketing never happened.

I understand that it's not easy to get a site off the ground, but the fact that Peter Hamza had done it before with StockXpert was enough reason to give him the benefit of the doubt.

I wouldn't define a hypothetical site as fair overall if it didn't do any/much marketing and didn't have any sales - wouldn't matter what the royalty rates or other terms were. I have no quarrel with StockFresh's stated goals for compensation which are all very fair. The problem is that there's a trickle of mostly 35 cent subscriptions and the subscription model only works for contributors if there's sales volume.

https://stockfresh.com/info/contributors

My notion of getting more for my work (and again, I'm speaking for me, not for the Coalition) is that I get more money, not a theoretical royalty rate and zero dollars in my account.

But then perhaps you weren't really asking a question, but looking to suggest hypocrisy on my part?

I think I have been and plan to continue to be transparent about what I do and why. I am not the Stock Coalition, but I'm helping it because I think the goals are worth my effort.

I think sticking with StockFresh for 9 years even though there have been very few sales over that time means I've given them a fair chance. I don't think they're likely to turn things around in the current market environment.
Title: Re: Is it dead?
Post by: Microstock Posts on August 24, 2020, 01:38

My notion of getting more for my work (and again, I'm speaking for me, not for the Coalition) is that I get more money

So that's why you never boycotted Shutterstock.

I disabled my images on Shutterstock in June and I'm still boycotting them now, I didn't tweet as much though, words are nothing if they're not followed up by action.

I know Shutterstock threw you out in the end, so you couldn't even leave them with your pride intact.
But you can leave StockFresh just like that even though you have no real quarrel with them, at least not nearly as big a quarrel as you supposedly have with Shutterstock.
Title: Re: Is it dead?
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on August 24, 2020, 09:18

My notion of getting more for my work (and again, I'm speaking for me, not for the Coalition) is that I get more money

So that's why you never boycotted Shutterstock.

I disabled my images on Shutterstock in June and I'm still boycotting them now, I didn't tweet as much though, words are nothing if they're not followed up by action.

I know Shutterstock threw you out in the end, so you couldn't even leave them with your pride intact.
But you can leave StockFresh just like that even though you have no real quarrel with them, at least not nearly as big a quarrel as you supposedly have with Shutterstock.

I disabled sales May 31 2020 - why do you think that I didn't boycott them?

Get facts before you start getting judgmental
Title: Re: Is it dead?
Post by: Microstock Posts on August 24, 2020, 10:22

My notion of getting more for my work (and again, I'm speaking for me, not for the Coalition) is that I get more money

So that's why you never boycotted Shutterstock.

I disabled my images on Shutterstock in June and I'm still boycotting them now, I didn't tweet as much though, words are nothing if they're not followed up by action.

I know Shutterstock threw you out in the end, so you couldn't even leave them with your pride intact.
But you can leave StockFresh just like that even though you have no real quarrel with them, at least not nearly as big a quarrel as you supposedly have with Shutterstock.

I disabled sales May 31 2020 - why do you think that I didn't boycott them?

Get facts before you start getting judgmental

I saw you images online way past that date, regrettably now I didn't screenshot it and waybackmachine doesn't have an archive for 2020 of your port. You may well have disabled on May 31, but as far as I know not for long.

I read replies to your tweets including a reply from someone who was also surprised you hadn't removed your images. You tweet a lot and I can't find that reply.

I did find the below reply though in your tweet about ss terminating your port in July.

Replying to
@joannsnover
So wait, they decided to terminate your portfolio just because of your public criticism? Are they gonna terminate the portfolio of every single contributor that is criticising their poor decisions? What a load of crap

https://twitter.com/joannsnover/status/1287867996535365632/photo/1?
Title: Re: Is it dead?
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on August 24, 2020, 10:40
You may well have disabled on May 31, but as far as I know not for long.

Wrong again. I disabled it on May 31 and it was not re-enabled at any point.
Title: Re: Is it dead?
Post by: PokemonMaster on August 27, 2020, 23:52
Ok, getting back to subject :)
I think, they are reading this forum. Because somewhere after this post they finally reviewed all my images. But, guys, I don't get the quality of your review. You rejected 100% of it. I will not say all my images are perfect and fit the stock. But I had very good COVID vectors. Very good, really. Also, thanks a lot for reviewing it a half year later than it was in trend. And a month before people will start screaming about the second wave and trend will return.
Title: Re: Is it dead?
Post by: Noedelhap on August 28, 2020, 04:03
I doubt Stockfresh is ever going to get anywhere. in 9 years I've made €100 /$120...So yes, I consider them dead.

They are a fair agency, but the lack of marketing, their lack of a USP makes it tough to beat the competition.
Title: Re: Is it dead?
Post by: Noedelhap on September 17, 2020, 06:14
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https://www.microstockgroup.com/stockfresh/stockfresh-is-closing/ (https://www.microstockgroup.com/stockfresh/stockfresh-is-closing/)