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« Reply #100 on: June 07, 2010, 06:45 »
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It might take a while because we would like to grow our customer and contributor base side by side, and we might not be able to let everyone in immediately.

Translation: We've already got all the really good stuff we want locked in.  We'll get to you when we want to.
No, to me it means acknowledgment of the common issue with new microstock sites when contributors are actively invited and then loose interest due to slow sales and lack of growth...


« Reply #101 on: June 07, 2010, 07:53 »
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I'll give this one a chance if they will get my images up without me clicking categories etc. I just want to send my images on DVDs and without any extra work...

RaFaLe

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« Reply #102 on: June 10, 2010, 07:22 »
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So I logged in to this new site, hoping to see what's available and possibly upload...

And I've been trying now for about 5 hours.
This is what I get:
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Warning: extract() [function.extract]: First argument should be an array in /var/www/stockfresh/www.stockfresh.com/common.php  on line 247

Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /var/www/stockfresh/www.stockfresh.com/common.php:247) in /var/www/stockfresh/www.stockfresh.com/common.php on line 275

That's on the banner, and when I log in:

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Warning: extract() [function.extract]: First argument should be an array in /var/www/stockfresh/www.stockfresh.com/common.php on line 247

Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /var/www/stockfresh/www.stockfresh.com/common.php:247) in /var/www/stockfresh/www.stockfresh.com/common.php on line 275

Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /var/www/stockfresh/www.stockfresh.com/common.php:247) in /var/www/stockfresh/www.stockfresh.com/index.php on line 73

Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /var/www/stockfresh/www.stockfresh.com/common.php:247) in /var/www/stockfresh/www.stockfresh.com/common.php on line 368

Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /var/www/stockfresh/www.stockfresh.com/common.php:247) in /var/www/stockfresh/www.stockfresh.com/index.php on line 121

Not really something I would consider if the site is unstable...

« Reply #103 on: June 10, 2010, 08:45 »
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Is this a sadomasochistic ritual, or you simply forget quickly....?
"Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darber muss man schweigen." (Wittgenstein).

Yes and "He who forgets history is doomed to repeat it."  Santayana (paraphrased).

fred

« Reply #104 on: June 10, 2010, 09:01 »
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Is this a sadomasochistic ritual, or you simply forget quickly....?
"Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darber muss man schweigen." (Wittgenstein).
Yes and "He who forgets history is doomed to repeat it."  Santayana (paraphrased).
1 - The original quote is - of course - from Toynbee.
2 - The quote is irrelevant in this discussion (unless you'd like to shine with a witty quote, in which case I'd rather recommend Voltaire).
3 - The right honorable gentlemen from one of the PIGS countries that obviously spends more time posting than shooting, missed the point of my quote, hypothesizing about Stockfresh. As it happens, I was the first on this forum to tell about Peter's intentions. That might have led the right honorable gentleman to the conclusion (not so hard to reach) that I probably knew more.

And now, allow me to fart in your general direction (Monty Python, of course).  :P

« Reply #105 on: June 15, 2010, 17:19 »
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Soooo...I've been gone for a few days. Has anyone else besides madelaide gotten approved at stockfresh?

« Reply #106 on: June 15, 2010, 18:51 »
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Soooo...I've been gone for a few days. Has anyone else besides madelaide gotten approved at stockfresh?

This was just affiliate program approval. Mine was too. I do not think they approved (or even going to anytime soon) anybody else as contributor

« Reply #107 on: June 15, 2010, 23:09 »
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Got on as a buyer in a matter of minutes...  didn't want that. I don't buy.  I reapplied as a seller.  Had to upload 5 shots and give 5 (?) website references...  I don't expect to hear anything soon.  8)=tom

« Reply #108 on: June 16, 2010, 03:48 »
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in this time of microstock trend, i think they should pay for accepted images.

I won't really be interested especially there are some websites (veer and zoonar) that are paying for accepted images in this period. Newbies that had is building portfolio, check out that two website.

microstockphoto.co.uk

« Reply #109 on: June 16, 2010, 05:29 »
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I decided long ago to avoid joining new sites, since I am already part of too many low to no earners.

As an exception, I was going to give this site a try just because I trusted the founders, but if they are making thinks difficult and asking to wait for very long time... I am afraid this site is losing its "freshness" for me, sorry.

« Reply #110 on: June 16, 2010, 16:44 »
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I decided long ago to avoid joining new sites, since I am already part of too many low to no earners.

As an exception, I was going to give this site a try just because I trusted the founders, but if they are making thinks difficult and asking to wait for very long time... I am afraid this site is losing its "freshness" for me, sorry.

Same thinking here..  I dumped a half dozen or so sites for slow sales...  Really only active on DT, BigStock, SS, IS  (but  still with Alamy, FT, FP, ).  But because I had moderate success with StockXpert, I don't have a problem giving the guys a try.  Question is if they want me... LOL...   I applied.
Funny thing, I was going to give Veer a try until I read an active thread on Veer today.  Other than that, I am very leery about newbie sites. And even new sites that throw a good pitch.  I was very psyched about Lucky Oliver, and put a lot of time and effort into them... only to see LO go down the porcelain receptacle. And a lot of peoples money with them. I was fortunate enough to hit cash out in their last week.

Yeah,  I'm gun shy 8)=tom

lisafx

« Reply #111 on: June 16, 2010, 16:57 »
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I wish them the best, but have to agree my enthusiasm is waning as each day passes with no response to my application. 

I will probably forget about these guys for awhile and check back in 6 months or so when/if they have things up and running.

« Reply #112 on: June 16, 2010, 17:07 »
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I wish them the best, but have to agree my enthusiasm is waning as each day passes with no response to my application. 

Lis....  I don't know if you mentioned it earlier... but how long ago did you apply,  just so I have an idea when to stop checking my email like a kid looking for candy.. LOL     8)=tom

lisafx

« Reply #113 on: June 16, 2010, 18:27 »
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Lis....  I don't know if you mentioned it earlier... but how long ago did you apply,  just so I have an idea when to stop checking my email like a kid looking for candy.. LOL     8)=tom

I applied on June 01, just after discovering this thread.  So it's over two weeks with no word...

Oh well.  They say patience is a virtue.  I wouldn't know ;)

« Reply #114 on: June 16, 2010, 19:46 »
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Is it all about joke or?!?

what???

« Reply #115 on: June 16, 2010, 20:35 »
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I decided long ago to avoid joining new sites, since I am already part of too many low to no earners.

As an exception, I was going to give this site a try just because I trusted the founders, but if they are making thinks difficult and asking to wait for very long time... I am afraid this site is losing its "freshness" for me, sorry.
These "trustful founders" already sold one site. They can  sell StockFresh, once succesful, like they did with Stockxpert. And they will stay "nice" guys with pockets full of money. Then everybody will hate the new owners.

microstockphoto.co.uk

« Reply #116 on: June 17, 2010, 05:23 »
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I decided long ago to avoid joining new sites, since I am already part of too many low to no earners.

As an exception, I was going to give this site a try just because I trusted the founders, but if they are making thinks difficult and asking to wait for very long time... I am afraid this site is losing its "freshness" for me, sorry.
These "trustful founders" already sold one site. They can  sell StockFresh, once succesful, like they did with Stockxpert. And they will stay "nice" guys with pockets full of money. Then everybody will hate the new owners.

Sure they may sell it once successful. I didn't mean they were "nice". I meant they were able to put up a successful site, and was hoping they could do the same again :) and at least they are real people, not someone from a weird country with a virtual office in NY or London - that said, I am losing patience with them. I know of another site which was only accepting "the best" and even asked a confirmation with a popup window before submitting pictures because they were not like all the others, well I lost interest in them as well. I am willing to accept weird procedures only if there's a good return: only one site IS in this situation, and it's not them.
« Last Edit: June 17, 2010, 05:38 by microstockphoto.co.uk »

grp_photo

« Reply #117 on: June 17, 2010, 05:38 »
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They killed Stockxpert (no one forced them to sell) I don't see any reason to support them (my personal loss because of the sale is immense - of course the owners made their millions). On a second note - Stockxpert was only successful because of SXC.hu as they sold that one too I don't think they will ever made it, the time for new start-ups are over you even see very substandard results from start-ups with such mighty companies like Deutsche Telekom (Polylooks) and Corbis (Veer) in the background.


« Reply #119 on: June 17, 2010, 05:50 »
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They killed Stockxpert (no one forced them to sell) I don't see any reason to support them (my personal loss because of the sale is immense - of course the owners made their millions). On a second note - Stockxpert was only successful because of SXC.hu as they sold that one too I don't think they will ever made it, the time for new start-ups are over you even see very substandard results from start-ups with such mighty companies like Deutsche Telekom (Polylooks) and Corbis (Veer) in the background.

We didn't kill Stockxpert. We decided to team up with Jupiterimages right after launch (2006) so they could help us grow the site. Nobody thought that the whole economy would eventually crash and Jupiter was going to be sold. Some things are just beyond our control, and I think it's everyone's loss, not just yours.

« Reply #120 on: June 17, 2010, 15:26 »
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Hello Everyone,

I'd just like to drop by to say a couple of things. First of all we are thrilled that so many of you are excited about Stockfresh. We're just getting started and it takes time to launch a site properly so please bear with us while we iron out things. As soon as we can start doing some marketing, we will also start letting more contributors in. We are not going to let you miss out on anything, don't worry! :) If you have any questions, you can reach me directly through the contact form on the site and I'll be happy to answer them!

Best regards,
Peter / Stockfresh

Peter...    Know you're busy... but next time you check in...  could you give us an idea  (ball park , not to be etched in stone)...  rough idea how long it will take to consider new contributors (of which many of us are old StockXpert friends). ...    thanks much...  8)=tom

« Reply #121 on: June 17, 2010, 18:19 »
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Waiting time is too long.... They are probably reviewing images from few big contributors that applied first... That is the most important for them now.

« Reply #122 on: June 17, 2010, 18:40 »
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There is no need to get excited too much. All recent attempts on creating a new agency were not particularly effective. See where YAY, Cutcaster and few others are after one year. I think "microstock bubble" has burst already. Now new agencies have to pay to get content so it is even harder for them than before.

helix7

« Reply #123 on: June 17, 2010, 22:50 »
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There is no need to get excited too much. All recent attempts on creating a new agency were not particularly effective. See where YAY, Cutcaster and few others are after one year. I think "microstock bubble" has burst already. Now new agencies have to pay to get content so it is even harder for them than before.

Those were agencies started up by unknown, inexperienced people. StockFresh is being put together by people we've worked with before and who know what it takes to succeed in microstock. I'm more inclined to take a chance on a company like that than another Yay, Cutcaster, etc.

Frankly I don't think things are so different now than they were a few years ago with respect to choosing which agencies to get on board with. We all knew back then that new sites were a risk. It's the same today. Maybe people are a little more cautious these days then before, but only after jumping on board with any new, untested company that came along asking for images, only to get burned afterwards. This has always been about assessing the risks and making a personal decision. I felt Yay was too risky and skipped it. Glad I did. LO was around already when I started in microstock, but I always felt that they were a bad investment and never got involved. I also thought that SnapVillage was an acceptable risk given their backing by a larger established company. Not feeling so good about that one today.

The risks are the same today as they were 3 years ago, though. And I personally will still continue to take chances on sites that I feel strongly about, and pass on the many many other ones that looks like just another wannbe microstock outfit. StockFresh, in my opinion, deserves some consideration because of the people behind it and their track record of previous success in microstock. 

« Reply #124 on: June 18, 2010, 00:06 »
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I agree with helix7 they have better background and I also have big expectations..! I just don't get so many time to start our accounts :P


 

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