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Author Topic: StockFresh - from Peter Hamza and Andras Pfaff  (Read 141306 times)

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« Reply #125 on: June 18, 2010, 00:21 »
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So I've registered as a contributor - just waiting to have my application reviewed (it's taken a few days already).
I love the look and feel. Nice and clean.
Looking forward to this, and hoping it does even better than StockXpert :)


« Reply #126 on: June 18, 2010, 17:22 »
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I'm willing to give them a chance... if they give me one... 
    I don't see why they wouldn't pick up those of us that sold well with them under the old banner...    as Helix7 said,  'they are proven'... and many of us have  'proven' ourselves with them.  I'm looking forward to working with them...    ha ha ha... if picked... LOL   8)=tom

« Reply #127 on: June 18, 2010, 17:54 »
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They must not be ready with whole infrastructure. I takes weeks to approve photographers. We will see when everything is up and running. I guess we have early access cause we are on this forum otherwise I haven't seen any agency that makes public announcement when it cannot really make site running.

« Reply #128 on: June 18, 2010, 17:57 »
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They must not be ready with whole infrastructure. I takes weeks to approve photographers. We will see when everything is up and running. I guess we have early access cause we are on this forum otherwise I haven't seen any agency that makes public announcement when it cannot really make site running.

weeks to approve photographers???.. weeks to approve photos ok, not to get accepted!

« Reply #129 on: June 18, 2010, 18:42 »
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I just put in my application today -- good thing I wasn't planing on uploading right away  ;)

« Reply #130 on: June 18, 2010, 19:25 »
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I just put in my application today -- good thing I wasn't planing on uploading right away  ;)

I guess mine is from 10 days ago

« Reply #131 on: June 19, 2010, 03:58 »
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Waiting time is too long.... They are probably reviewing images from few big contributors that applied first... That is the most important for them now.
Bingo  ;)

« Reply #132 on: June 19, 2010, 06:54 »
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I have sent StockFresh an email.
- and Peter explained why is the delay.

« Reply #133 on: June 19, 2010, 07:24 »
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I have sent StockFresh an email.
- and Peter explained why is the delay.

Care to share, because he posted here and the reason he gave was pretty vague. I see that at least 4 photographers have images posted on the site, but in doing a spot search, none have downloads that I could see. So I have no doubt that they are still gearing up, and getting the big guns' images approved and online first.

What I don't understand is why Lee Torrens posted here June 1 if the site wasn't ready for everyone to contribute to. I am fairly certain that the negotiations for the top guns went on behind the scenes and didn't happen because of Lee's post.

I typically don't read people's blogs but I went over to the one Lee posted at the same he posted here (or even before). Here's what it says:

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The sale of the outstanding 10% portion to Getty Images was merely last December. In the six months since then, Peter and Andras have built a completely new microstock agency and filled it with over 100,000 images.  Yuri Arcurs has 30,000 there and Ron Chapples  iofoto collection is there, 15,000 images strong. Even I have 49 online.

Today, the new agency opens its doors to both contributors and buyers. The site is fully functional and well refined. Its not even in beta. Its actually easier to use and faster than many microstock agency websites that have been online for years.

I'm not stupid. I understand that these guys are friends/big draws/etc. and that they are going to get first dibs. That should have been done behind the scenes, before the announcement here on this forum.

I really hate false advertising. I'm starting to lose my enthusiasm. We get enough of this kind of stuff from all the other sites.

« Reply #134 on: June 19, 2010, 07:29 »
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We get enough of this kind of stuff from all the other sites.

Well, this is just another site, right?  Nothing groundbreaking or special going on.  People hoping the past model is going to work, etc.

« Reply #135 on: June 19, 2010, 07:31 »
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We get enough of this kind of stuff from all the other sites.

Well, this is just another site, right?  Nothing groundbreaking or special going on.  People hoping the past model is going to work, etc.

Apparently so. A girl can hope, can't she?  ;)

« Reply #136 on: June 19, 2010, 12:01 »
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Apparently so. A girl can hope, can't she?  ;)
This sounds like a great title for Lady Gaga's next song.  :P

« Reply #137 on: June 19, 2010, 14:12 »
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Here is what Peter wroth

"Thank you for writing.It might take a long time to get approved. We have just started the site and we would like to do some advertising first. We will start letting in new contributors when we start receiving some traffic. Thank you very much for your patience!
 Best regards,Peter Hamza"

I think he said something similar in his earlier open latter to all of those who would be interested to contribute for StcoFresh.
Yes I love to be there too but i give a breathing space for the guys and wait - not because i could do anything else.
Regards

« Reply #138 on: June 19, 2010, 14:19 »
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I'm not stupid. I understand that these guys are friends/big draws/etc. and that they are going to get first dibs. That should have been done behind the scenes, before the announcement here on this forum.
To be fair, it wasn't them, but Lee Torrens, who announced SF in his blog and here.

« Reply #139 on: June 19, 2010, 14:44 »
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Hey great.  I air my grievances with the big sites, close my account with FT, quit submitting to the Big 3, and announce that I'm waiting for new agencies offering better deals.   Then when they show up, they won't let me in.  

"I don't want to belong to any club that will accept me as a member - Groucho Marx
« Last Edit: June 19, 2010, 14:48 by stockastic »

« Reply #140 on: June 19, 2010, 15:05 »
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To be fair, it wasn't them, but Lee Torrens, who announced SF in his blog and here.

To be very fair, it was FD last January.  :P
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but perhaps they (Getty) found out too that Peter Hamza (the original coder of StockXpert) is making a new site very deep under the radar.

in this thread: http://www.microstockgroup.com/stockxpert-com/stockxpert-sales-crashed/
which started this thread: http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/would-you-migrate-to-StockXpert-founder%27s-new-site/

« Reply #141 on: June 19, 2010, 15:46 »
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To be fair, it wasn't them, but Lee Torrens, who announced SF in his blog and here.
To be very fair, it was FD last January.  :P
Ok, then, but did you say they were accepting photographers then? He did: "Today, the new agency opens its doors to both contributors and buyers."

« Reply #142 on: June 19, 2010, 16:01 »
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Ok, then, but did you say they were accepting photographers then? He did: "Today, the new agency opens its doors to both contributors and buyers."
No, he was making it "under the radar" then. Apparently, viral marketing works and it is cheap. Everybody is clearly dying to get in, and he doesn't even pay for upload.  :P Il faut le faire.

« Reply #143 on: June 20, 2010, 05:59 »
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Ok, then, but did you say they were accepting photographers then? He did: "Today, the new agency opens its doors to both contributors and buyers."

No, he was making it "under the radar" then. Apparently, viral marketing works and it is cheap. Everybody is clearly dying to get in, and he doesn't even pay for upload.  :P Il faut le faire.


From Lee Torrens' very first post here in this thread:

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Launched today:  http://www.stockfresh.com

They
gave me a lot of notice, but I was still rushed in putting together a quick review:  http://www.microstockdiaries.com/stockfresh.html


I guess I thought they meant Stockfresh and that Lee Torrens had approval to do the review and to post here. Guess it doesn't really matter...contributors will get approved when they are ready.

« Reply #144 on: June 20, 2010, 08:04 »
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I guess I thought they meant Stockfresh and that Lee Torrens had approval to do the review and to post here. Guess it doesn't really matter...contributors will get approved when they are ready.
Obviously. But when they are going to play the same trick as CutCaster did, i.e. put all the images of the holy guys right on top in searches, I'll be faster to delete my port than I did at CutCaster. And I won't put the same effort in it any more. CutCaster gave all the big guys a bump in the searches and I researched it well, despite the denials of John. I'm not up for the same game any more. The pre-acceptance of the 4 divas of stock was ominous. Let's see...
« Last Edit: June 20, 2010, 08:06 by FD-amateur »

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« Reply #145 on: June 20, 2010, 10:46 »
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From a business perspective why wouldn't you want the proven sellers up front? It is all well and good to be "fair" but fair doesn't always make money.

« Reply #146 on: June 20, 2010, 11:14 »
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From a business perspective why wouldn't you want the proven sellers up front? It is all well and good to be "fair" but fair doesn't always make money.

It depends on what you mean by "proven sellers up front". Do you mean in the search? Because if I have an image that has 10 times more downloads than Yuri, no, I don't think Yuri's image should be in front of my proven seller, just because his name is Yuri.

If you mean "proven sellers up front" as in getting the big guns on board first, then yes, I agree you do that. You do that behind the scenes, BEFORE you announce to the rest of the world that you are open for business and ready for contributors and images.

« Reply #147 on: June 20, 2010, 11:48 »
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From a business perspective why wouldn't you want the proven sellers up front? It is all well and good to be "fair" but fair doesn't always make money.

This is exactly what happens at most sites.... we'll just have to wait and see with this new site.
If this happens, and considering they don't have a Free site that drives (potential) buyers to the paying site..... maybe it's not worth the time uploading for the few bucks we could be earning each month.
We'll just have to wait (and upload if you feel to) and see.

Patrick.

« Reply #148 on: June 20, 2010, 14:31 »
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From a business perspective why wouldn't you want the proven sellers up front? It is all well and good to be "fair" but fair doesn't always make money.
Some time ago I read an article about retailing that made an impression.  Shopping malls have been in decline for years and many experts say it's because all the stored ended up selling the same products.  You walk from store to store and see the same clothes and shoes, the same Polo and Tommy Hilfiger.  Shopping became boring, people were less inclined to go to the mall.  

I think that's relevant here. Not only does each new stock site become instantly boring, I think the entire business is hurt because stock photography becomes less interesting to designers; there are after all other visual elements you can use to fill up a page.

Someone please explain to me why these big producers like Arcurs don't sell direct.  Surely their names must be known to a lot of designers by now. They have the money to set up elaborate web sites and hire SEO expertise.
« Last Edit: June 21, 2010, 13:40 by stockastic »



 

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