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Author Topic: StockFresh - from Peter Hamza and Andras Pfaff  (Read 275807 times)

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« Reply #350 on: September 08, 2010, 11:48 »
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Why dont you leave this to your customers. a review (upload) system should be realy nice according to selling performance. No inspectors and no review times. Pics that are not selling for some time period should be deleted.

All files need to be checked for quality and legal issues. You wouldn't believe what people upload sometimes... :)

How many images do you have i dont know but i saw your collection is not differnet than others. There is so many people has got more than 5000 pics in their portfolia and you can find their images cheaper in some other stocks. This is not a good kind of diversity. Also, did you reviews all their images? What dou you think about the exclusivity for having uniqe colection?

We have over 250,000 images at the moment. Some sites might be a little bit cheaper, but I think these prices are fine for now. If it turns out that we're too expensive, we can always adjust them. One thing is sure, we don't want to be too cheap though. As for exclusivity, it doesn't make sense because we've just started and there's nothing we can offer to exclusives yet. Maybe when we get big! ;)


« Reply #351 on: September 08, 2010, 19:42 »
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I liked StockXpert and I will like sf. Im working hard with it.
The worse thing is having only 25 images to upload a day.

« Reply #352 on: September 08, 2010, 20:02 »
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Still waiting for approval hmmm 4 months by now...way too long.

« Reply #353 on: September 08, 2010, 22:37 »
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Still waiting for approval hmmm 4 months by now...way too long.

Yeah, it's been 3 or 4 months for me as well.  I emailed them several times to inquire what was going on, but apparently I needed to use their form because I never got a response.  Just tried their form, so we'll see what happens.

« Reply #354 on: September 09, 2010, 00:37 »
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As a new Microstock website( 3 month old), Stockfresh,  doing extremely well.
I had 11 sales on August, 3 sales this month so far. they offer 50% commission.
StockXpert come back alive.

They have IT team, and marketing skills.
We have Photos, Illustrations, Video, Audio, Flash.

If they are willing do something to help us, and also help themself, to reform the new site into a new "share holding macro+micro agency" for photographers,  Stockfresh will be a huge success in no time.

vonkara

« Reply #355 on: September 09, 2010, 00:49 »
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As a new Microstock website( 3 month old), Stockfresh,  doing extremely well.
I had 11 sales on August, 3 sales this month so far. they offer 50% commission.
StockXpert come back alive.

They have IT team, and marketing skills.
We have Photos, Illustrations, Video, Audio, Flash.

If they are willing do something to help us, and also help themself, to reform the new site into a new "share holding macro+micro agency" for photographers,  Stockfresh will be a huge success in no time.

They offer 50% until they become enough big to sell their subscription plan again. This is for attracting new contributors. I won't forget those dudes from StockXpert starting to sell our extended licence at sub prices. No one live on 14 sales a month.

Btw spamming is bad
« Last Edit: September 09, 2010, 00:51 by Vonkara »

« Reply #356 on: September 09, 2010, 01:14 »
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They offer 50% until they become enough big to sell their subscription plan again. This is for attracting new contributors. I won't forget those dudes from StockXpert starting to sell our extended licence at sub prices. No one live on 14 sales a month.

Btw spamming is bad

What's you mean "spamming", I am telling the truth.  
Yes "No one live on 14 sales a month", but most new site with no sales after one year.
11 sales on one month is extremely well for a new site !!!

« Reply #357 on: September 09, 2010, 05:42 »
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I won't forget those dudes from StockXpert starting to sell our extended licence at sub prices.
Did they sell EL at subs?   :-\

« Reply #358 on: September 09, 2010, 05:43 »
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What's you mean "spamming", I am telling the truth.
I think he was referring to writing here the same as in another thread.

« Reply #359 on: September 09, 2010, 07:12 »
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They offer 50% until they become enough big to sell their subscription plan again. This is for attracting new contributors. I won't forget those dudes from StockXpert starting to sell our extended licence at sub prices. No one live on 14 sales a month.


What are you talking about? Even though StockXpert had subscription plans, you had to buy extended licenses separately. Here's the license agreement, you can see it for yourself: http://www.stockxpert.com/support/help/2_3

If you are referring to JIU and Photos.com over which StockXpert had no control whatsoever, those deals were optional for contributors because people hated the idea of mandatory opt-in (even though almost everybody stayed opted in afterwards).

The icing on the cake is that the wast majority of our customers preferred PPD to subscriptions anyway. :)

« Reply #360 on: September 09, 2010, 10:05 »
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BTW, Peter, I would REALLY love to learn that subs are optional in Stockfresh, as they were in StockXpert. That would be a great incentive for me.

helix7

« Reply #361 on: September 09, 2010, 11:23 »
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They offer 50% until they become enough big to sell their subscription plan again. This is for attracting new contributors. I won't forget those dudes from StockXpert starting to sell our extended licence at sub prices. No one live on 14 sales a month.


The subscription plan at SF is already available, isn't it? 35 per download I believe. It's no secret, and I think it's a pretty good deal, considering comparable sub rates at other sites. And if SF turns out to be anything like StockXpert, I'd expect to see more PPD sales than subs anyway.

Just because you had a bad experience with StockXpert and your images didn't sell, that says it all for every seller? My StockXpert earnings beat my istock earnings some months. If SF can even come close to replacing what I lost when StockXpert was shut down, I'd be very happy with that. But I also think SF can go far beyond what was done with StockXpert and be even more successful.

vonkara

« Reply #362 on: September 09, 2010, 14:08 »
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You guys don't remember this 22 pages thread, with the conference call to StockXpert ect.

Look at the reply of madelaide on this page. Then all the rest of the thread. That's how their photos.com subscription plan made my incomes going down by 40%. I passed from credit sales to 20% of credit sales and 80% of StockXpert subs and photos.com extended licence sub.

I finally opted out and only got very small credit sales up to the end, a couple months later

http://www.microstockgroup.com/stockxpert-com/StockXpert-images-on-photos-com/25/

Steve,

Unless I missed something in the terms, there are no differences between the subs and non-subs regarding image usage.  As per paragraphs 1E and 1F, the allowed usages are VERY broad (even resale items, no limits of copies of any printed media, etc).  This may be ok when you talk about the high prices, but definitely not about subs.

Regards,
Adelaide

vonkara

« Reply #363 on: September 09, 2010, 14:13 »
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Just because you had a bad experience with StockXpert and your images didn't sell, that says it all for every seller? My StockXpert earnings beat my istock earnings some months. If SF can even come close to replacing what I lost when StockXpert was shut down, I'd be very happy with that. But I also think SF can go far beyond what was done with StockXpert and be even more successful.

StockXpert was my second earner until this photos.com "deal". It's not about sales it's about selling extended licence at sub prices, and see 100% credit sales becoming 80% subscription sales
« Last Edit: September 09, 2010, 14:18 by Vonkara »

vonkara

« Reply #364 on: September 09, 2010, 14:16 »
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And finally, I don't try to harm your Stockfresh product guys. I just can't handle the StockXpert wooyaying, since at how the agency ended

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« Reply #365 on: September 09, 2010, 14:19 »
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BTW, Peter, I would REALLY love to learn that subs are optional in Stockfresh, as they were in StockXpert. That would be a great incentive for me.

From what I saw at the site a few months ago, subs are compulsory on Stockfresh.. also a deal-breaker for me..

« Reply #366 on: September 09, 2010, 14:21 »
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BTW, Peter, I would REALLY love to learn that subs are optional in Stockfresh, as they were in StockXpert. That would be a great incentive for me.

From what I saw at the site a few months ago, subs are compulsory on Stockfresh.. also a deal-breaker for me..

Yikes, glad you brought this up. I'm not sure I'm up for any more sub sales either. A couple of posts ago, Peter mentioned that most of their clients want PPDs anyway...can you make this an opt-out, then, Peter?

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The icing on the cake is that the wast majority of our customers preferred PPD to subscriptions anyway. Smiley

« Reply #367 on: September 09, 2010, 14:32 »
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And finally, I don't try to harm your Stockfresh product guys. I just can't handle the StockXpert wooyaying, since at how the agency ended

I don't think anybody likes how it ended. I remember though when Getty shut the site down there were people cheering in the istock forums. I found it really interesting. Noone's cheering now. Strange turn of events!

« Reply #368 on: September 09, 2010, 14:36 »
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And finally, I don't try to harm your Stockfresh product guys. I just can't handle the StockXpert wooyaying, since at how the agency ended

I don't think anybody likes how it ended. I remember though when Getty shut the site down there were people cheering in the istock forums. I found it really interesting. Noone's cheering now. Strange turn of events!

I hope you made a list of those of us who DID NOT cheer the demise of StockXpert, and of those who were cheering, for future reference.  ;)


rubyroo

« Reply #370 on: September 09, 2010, 14:38 »
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I don't think anybody likes how it ended. I remember though when Getty shut the site down there were people cheering in the istock forums. I found it really interesting. Noone's cheering now. Strange turn of events!

Were they really?  That's repulsive behaviour.  I really hope you get the last laugh here Peter.  StockXpert (before the buyout) remains my favourite agency of all time.  

Out of interest, will you be feeding through via another SXC-style site?  I recall someone at iStock saying they were really amazed at how much iStock purchasing arose via that route.

« Reply #371 on: September 09, 2010, 14:48 »
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Out of interest, will you be feeding through via another SXC-style site?  I recall someone at iStock saying they were really amazed at how much iStock purchasing arose via that route.


Well, I'm not sure if you're aware, but many top contributors left SXC after the transition and started a new site at http://rgbstock.com . RGB is growing very fast and although I'm not involved in that project I'm sure we'll work something out together.

« Reply #372 on: September 09, 2010, 15:02 »
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Ah, Photos.com then. I was never there.

rubyroo

« Reply #373 on: September 09, 2010, 15:28 »
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Out of interest, will you be feeding through via another SXC-style site?  I recall someone at iStock saying they were really amazed at how much iStock purchasing arose via that route.


Well, I'm not sure if you're aware, but many top contributors left SXC after the transition and started a new site at http://rgbstock.com . RGB is growing very fast and although I'm not involved in that project I'm sure we'll work something out together.


Aha!  That's good to know.  I have to say I'm not a fan of giving free images away myself, but if some connection between the two of you will bring such startling amounts of purchasers to Stockfresh, then I'm happy to hear of this.

« Reply #374 on: September 09, 2010, 15:33 »
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You won't be able to opt out of subscriptions, but only photos up to M size are included. So it works for bloggers,  websites and magazines who need a ton of images and you won't feel ripped off with 35c XXL downloads.

OK, at least you are limiting the sizes buyers can get for the sub price. That's good.


 

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