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Author Topic: StockFresh - from Peter Hamza and Andras Pfaff  (Read 275857 times)

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« Reply #575 on: October 05, 2010, 02:06 »
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joining 2 months at GL, i had made 4 sales, stockfresh is still pending of my application.

i find it quite unprofessional to name your competitor this way. I am really surprised attitude like that can manage a successful company. I guess time is changing, old way of doing business is out-dated.. :)
« Last Edit: October 05, 2010, 02:12 by mtkang »


« Reply #576 on: October 05, 2010, 04:15 »
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i find it quite unprofessional to name your competitor this way. I am really surprised attitude like that can manage a successful company. I guess time is changing, old way of doing business is out-dated.. :)

Someone implied that we're doing something wrong because other small sites (like the one mentioned) review a lot more images with a small team. I was just setting facts straight. I know how much a person can review. Also, these stats are public, I got them from Twitter. I find it funny that people can say anything about us without consequences but we're supposed to shut up because if we dare to state the facts we're unprofessional. :D

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« Reply #577 on: October 05, 2010, 04:50 »
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I really dont understand how anyone can compare GLO with SF.  GLO has been around for quite some time now and people still dont know who they are.  There wasn't a great rush to join GLO when they started up either and that's what is causing the wait at SF.  Although a great site whos fair to the contributor and a site I hope someday will take off, GLO is just not in the same ballpark as SF is expected to be.  SF made one announcement and because of their reputation and experience, everyones trying to get in at once, including myself.  People are complaining about it as if its a negative, but remember that we're all dying to get in because we suspect this site will be great.  I wouldnt be so keen about joining if everyone else wasnt.  With such confidence from the contributors and probably from the buyers who dealt with StockXpert, SF is sure to boom. 

SF dont have the resources to handles such large volumes of incoming applicants and it wouldnt be wise at this point to put more on before the site has established itself. 

Just relax people.  Well get in eventually and by then, the buyers will have multiplied as well.  The only ones that should be complaining about SFs long line of applicants is the other agencies, who I suspect are watching nervously, hoping SF doesnt steal their buyers and contributors from them.

« Reply #578 on: October 05, 2010, 04:59 »
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Hi Peter! There a few pretty small agencies approving and reviewing photos pretty soon with 3 or 4 persons.. I just don't understand why you aren't? Are the reviews like IS, more than 1 week? I dont get it sorry..! I am talking about GLO

No, usually reviews are done within a day and we'd like to keep it that way. If you don't get it, do the math. If 700 new contributors are trying to upload their whole portfolio at the same time with a 25 images / day quota, there's no way you're going to be able to inspect everything properly with 3 people.

I'd settle for 50 a week if I was approved.

« Reply #579 on: October 05, 2010, 05:16 »
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I joined to Stockfresh 1.June.
Affiliate program was accepted immediately but my application waiting. It is not fair. I may make advertisement for them but upload images no ??? For me would be better if they reject my applications as I must wait for now 4 months.

eggshell

« Reply #580 on: October 05, 2010, 05:34 »
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I really don't get the SF negativity only because a couple of applicants are still on the queue list and whining about it every other day .
SF review times at the moment are second only to CanStock ( who basically approve everything ) and the rejection reasons they provide are pinpoint accurate , not some vague list . Judging from the few views per file the traffic is still quite low but I think SF has all the ingredients to become a successful agency . Just give them some time .
Unfortunately I don't see GLO developping as a photography stock . The only people that sell regularly ( sort of ) there are illustrators . I'm really curious about GLO's photo sales stats

rubyroo

« Reply #581 on: October 05, 2010, 05:39 »
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I really think it's important for people to remember times in their lives when they were put under pressure to do things faster than was humanly possible, perhaps by an overbearing boss, and acknowledge how that feels.  The people at SF are human, not robots, and as others have said, the return of the StockXpert management to the fold has been met with huge enthusiasm and excitement at the potential this offers.  Especially as they are promising a fair and comparatively high commission rate at a time when we're all feeling a bit 'shafted' elsewhere in the industry.

Of course it's frustrating to wait, but once you're accepted, the review times are among the fastest in the industry, at less than 24 hours.  Once you get in, this wait will soon become a distant memory... and we all hope that, once established and fully marketed, we'll have an SF love-fest :)

I have my fingers firmly crossed that SF will fulfill our expectations - and I'm sure the management and staff are feeling some pressure from the optimism many of us have... so let's just let them get on with it rather than pulling them away from it to answer all these attacks they're getting in this forum.  This is a story that will take time to unfold.

« Reply #582 on: October 05, 2010, 05:48 »
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what i am saying sometimes the managements should stay out of complains if they dont have a solution at this moment. you don't see istock management come here to explain their changes, telling you shutterstock is paying $0.25.

it is good if some staff come here to assist us, but if there is no good explanation, please direct them to customer service.

« Reply #583 on: October 05, 2010, 05:55 »
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^^^ I don't think you speak for majority of people here, which I believe much prefer the fact that Peter is coming here to try to explain stuff.

Your application is in queue? So is mine. Have you looked at portfolio of people who are in and at yours? I did that with mine and kind of see why are some in and some others not.

Fotonaut

« Reply #584 on: October 05, 2010, 06:08 »
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^^^ I don't think you speak for majority of people here, which I believe much prefer the fact that Peter is coming here to try to explain stuff.
Your application is in queue? So is mine. Have you looked at portfolio of people who are in and at yours? I did that with mine and kind of see why are some in and some others not.

+1

rubyroo

« Reply #585 on: October 05, 2010, 06:09 »
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Yes I think it's far preferable that the agencies participate in the forum and answer us directly.  Peter's actually the co-owner, not a 'member of staff', and I think he's given us the only answer he can...  they're getting on with it and they're reviewing upwards of 20,000 images per week with a very small staff of reviewers, and they're slowly clearing the initial backlog that was generated by a huge avalanche of excited applicants who trust their record with StockXpert.  Once they have sufficient numbers to feel competitive enough to start marketing, they will.

This all makes perfect business sense to me.  What else can they do?

« Reply #586 on: October 05, 2010, 06:18 »
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i am basically just pointing out that there is not necessary to say something like that company do blah blah..so what else we can do.

I am quite surprise it is from a mouth of CEO.

rubyroo

« Reply #587 on: October 05, 2010, 06:26 »
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I think he's just being completely straight and honest with us - which I find a refreshing contrast to the organised 'spin' we're used to from corporates etc.   I understand your feeling - I'm of the old school 'Dale Carnegie' type approach to communication myself - but find that this manner of communication is very much in the nature of business start-ups, especially in the Internet era.

I do agree though that something in general has been lost in the manner of communication over the last generation - but I don't think that's Peter's fault  ;)  I think it has something to do with the speed of the Internet; information overload etc.  Business people have become more reactive (and sometimes react emotionally), whereas they used to take time to consider and present a calm and controlled facade, no matter what chaos was occurring in the background.  I don't mean that as a criticism in any way - I think it's inevitable, until we all catch up with ourselves and calm down a bit.

It's very human and honest though... which I think is to be appreciated.
« Last Edit: October 05, 2010, 06:34 by rubyroo »

« Reply #588 on: October 05, 2010, 06:38 »
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what i am saying sometimes the managements should stay out of complains if they dont have a solution at this moment. you don't see istock management come here to explain their changes, telling you shutterstock is paying $0.25.

it is good if some staff come here to assist us, but if there is no good explanation, please direct them to customer service.

Please don't compare anybody to istock...in my opinion, istock TOTALLY has the wrong idea about communication. Or lack thereof, I should say. You may not like the answer Peter is giving, I know I sure didn't before I got approved, but at least he's here, and at least he is giving an honest answer. Something you sure don't get from istock.

« Reply #589 on: October 05, 2010, 07:15 »
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i am basically just pointing out that there is not necessary to say something like that company do blah blah..so what else we can do.
I am quite surprise it is from a mouth of CEO.

It wasn't me who brought it up. Normally I don't talk about other agencies but when people don't do their research and make false claims I think I have the right to point out the opposite. This forum is a great place to communicate and many agencies read it and even join the discussion. I'm here because we get a ton of questions and I want to assure people who have been waiting for a long time that we're working hard getting all that content online.

« Reply #590 on: October 05, 2010, 10:21 »
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Sorry, this is off topic, but where do you see the reasons for the rejections? You can click on the rejected page which brings up the thumbnails of the rejected photos but I see no reasons anywhere? I think it would help me to know what not to send them since I am uploading my whole portfolio as I am sure everyone else is doing too.

rubyroo

« Reply #591 on: October 05, 2010, 10:26 »
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With your images listed, click on the red button by the rejected image, and a little message will pop up.

lisafx

« Reply #592 on: October 05, 2010, 10:27 »
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I don't understand all the negativity directed toward StockFresh.  First we all jump on the bandwagon thinking they are going to magically rival Istock/Getty overnight, and then bash them when they don't meet those expectations in the course of a month's time??   ::)

Peter and co.  know what they are doing.  And they are doing it in a reasonable timeframe.  Let's just cool our jets and let them do their jobs.  

Nobody is forcing any of us to upload there.  Personally, I see a lot of potential in SF, but I am not going to freak out if it takes awhile for them to build momentum.

Like many other endeavors, they could do it fast and badly, or take the time to get things right and have a good chance at longevity.  

abimages

« Reply #593 on: October 05, 2010, 10:44 »
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I don't understand all the negativity directed toward StockFresh.  First we all jump on the bandwagon thinking they are going to magically rival Istock/Getty overnight, and then bash them when they don't meet those expectations in the course of a month's time??   ::)

Peter and co.  know what they are doing.  And they are doing it in a reasonable timeframe.  Let's just cool our jets and let them do their jobs.  

Nobody is forcing any of us to upload there.  Personally, I see a lot of potential in SF, but I am not going to freak out if it takes awhile for them to build momentum.

Like many other endeavors, they could do it fast and badly, or take the time to get things right and have a good chance at longevity.  

Agree 100% Lisa. Well said!
I'm looking forward to starting uploads next week, upon release from IS ::)

« Reply #594 on: October 05, 2010, 10:46 »
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I don't understand all the negativity directed toward StockFresh.  First we all jump on the bandwagon thinking they are going to magically rival Istock/Getty overnight, and then bash them when they don't meet those expectations in the course of a month's time??   ::)

Peter and co.  know what they are doing.  And they are doing it in a reasonable timeframe.  Let's just cool our jets and let them do their jobs.  

Nobody is forcing any of us to upload there.  Personally, I see a lot of potential in SF, but I am not going to freak out if it takes awhile for them to build momentum.

Like many other endeavors, they could do it fast and badly, or take the time to get things right and have a good chance at longevity.  

Really... I don't know why anybody would expect anything to happen overnight. Even if you get in, that's no guarantee of immediate sales.

« Reply #595 on: October 05, 2010, 11:01 »
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I don't understand all the negativity directed toward StockFresh.  First we all jump on the bandwagon thinking they are going to magically rival Istock/Getty overnight, and then bash them when they don't meet those expectations in the course of a month's time??   ::)

I think the "we" still feeling very positive about SF is a different and much larger group than the SF-bashing "we"  ;)

bittersweet

« Reply #596 on: October 05, 2010, 11:02 »
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i am basically just pointing out that there is not necessary to say something like that company do blah blah..so what else we can do.

I am quite surprise it is from a mouth of CEO.

I understand your point, but it seems like you missed part of the conversation. The only reason he said anything specific about a competitor is because it was repeatedly thrown to him as an example of some perceived failure on his part:

Hi Peter! There a few pretty small agencies approving and reviewing photos pretty soon with 3 or 4 persons.. I just don't understand why you aren't? Are the reviews like IS, more than 1 week? I dont get it sorry..! I am talking about GLO

No, usually reviews are done within a day and we'd like to keep it that way. If you don't get it, do the math. If 700 new contributors are trying to upload their whole portfolio at the same time with a 25 images / day quota, there's no way you're going to be able to inspect everything properly with 3 people.

sorry but GLO is in fact being strict and are doing a great job.. just like in stock, ones do more other not.. sorry but this is the truth!

« Reply #597 on: October 05, 2010, 21:05 »
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I joined to Stockfresh 1.June.
Affiliate program was accepted immediately but my application waiting. It is not fair. I may make advertisement for them but upload images no ??? For me would be better if they reject my applications as I must wait for now 4 months.

you are 100% right.. maybe I should remove the banner from my crappy blog :P

« Reply #598 on: October 06, 2010, 00:20 »
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I joined to Stockfresh 1.June.
Affiliate program was accepted immediately but my application waiting. It is not fair. I may make advertisement for them but upload images no ??? For me would be better if they reject my applications as I must wait for now 4 months.

you are 100% right.. maybe I should remove the banner from my crappy blog :P

Luis, it looks like the strategy is to take the high rollers first. I've totally forgotten about SF and have other lucrative irons in the fire. 30 days for an approval is understandable, 3 or 4 months is not. Good luck to you.
« Last Edit: October 06, 2010, 02:43 by stormchaser »

« Reply #599 on: October 06, 2010, 01:59 »
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For me Stockfresh approach makes sense, it is just a shame the queue order was not respected :(


 

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