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« Reply #50 on: June 20, 2009, 01:54 »
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That one statement makes so much sense and has convinced me to keep uploading there when I had already decided that it wasn't worth the bother. :)
  Won't StockXpert have a better chance of surviving if we keep uploading "unique" images there, padding their database? 


« Reply #51 on: June 20, 2009, 03:34 »
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I keep uploading to StockXpert as usual. The game is only over when the fat lady sings. Uploading makes StockXpert stronger. Getty will never close it down since the StockXpert collection is different from the one on iStock by the different acceptance policies. Closing it down would mean losing income and feed the competition like SS, DT and FT that mostly carry the same images as StockXpert.

What may happen is that iStock will ask contributors on both IS and StockXpert to remove the images on StockXpert that are already on IS. Which sounds reasonable.
What also may happen is that IS exclusives may submit their IS rejected images to StockXpert, which would be great for them, since now, they don't have any income at all from rejected images.

IS and StockXpert could coexist and complement each other like Veer and Veer Marketplace: an A and a B site: different quality, different images, different prices, different customers.
If Getty doesn't have a clear business mind to implement this scheme, the investors group that owns Getty will insist on it.

« Last Edit: June 20, 2009, 03:37 by FlemishDreams »

« Reply #52 on: June 20, 2009, 07:37 »
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I keep uploading to StockXpert as usual. The game is only over when the fat lady sings. Uploading makes StockXpert stronger. Getty will never close it down since the StockXpert collection is different from the one on iStock by the different acceptance policies. Closing it down would mean losing income and feed the competition like SS, DT and FT that mostly carry the same images as StockXpert.

What may happen is that iStock will ask contributors on both IS and StockXpert to remove the images on StockXpert that are already on IS. Which sounds reasonable.
What also may happen is that IS exclusives may submit their IS rejected images to StockXpert, which would be great for them, since now, they don't have any income at all from rejected images.

IS and StockXpert could coexist and complement each other like Veer and Veer Marketplace: an A and a B site: different quality, different images, different prices, different customers.
If Getty doesn't have a clear business mind to implement this scheme, the investors group that owns Getty will insist on it.



The first sensible and doer "prediction" here .

But yes, I think that's not just a fresh breath of optimism to keep StockXpert, but a very well thought out forecast not based on facts or sensibility.

Flmeish ,I gave you a heart for this comment, but it said No, spread the love. Sorry.

« Reply #53 on: June 20, 2009, 08:56 »
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Now when StockXpert says it's not going to sell through Jupiter, people are going to stop uploading again. We microstockers are strange group.

I don't think the doubt is about the "loss" of Jupiter/Photos.com deal, but the changes that may come to StockXpert.  A reduction of our commissions is a fear.  However, I don't think StockXpert has a minimum time they retains our images, like DT and BigStock do, so it would not be a problem deleting new images should one decide to close the account with StockXpert.

Before StockXpert entered into the sub market with photos.com and JI, I had brisk sales at payasyougo prices.  Once the sup thing when into effect, the payasyougo sales have STOPPED.  I only get sub sales now.  I read this as most buyers are no longer shopping StockXpert since they know they can get most of the same pictures at photos/ji for less money.
« Last Edit: June 20, 2009, 09:05 by astrocady »

« Reply #54 on: June 20, 2009, 10:50 »
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Or that they started marketing photos.com and neglected StockXpert.

« Reply #55 on: June 20, 2009, 11:06 »
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Uploading makes StockXpert stronger. Getty will never close it down since the StockXpert collection is different from the one on iStock by the different acceptance policies. Closing it down would mean losing income and feed the competition like SS, DT and FT that mostly carry the same images as StockXpert.

I like that, Flemish, well put.

« Reply #56 on: June 20, 2009, 12:45 »
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My sales are still going strong on StockXpert and I don't see any reason to stop uploading. If they close it down, then my images will be removed. I might as well make as much as I can until that happens. As long as the pricing structure stays the same, no skin off my nose.

WarrenPrice

« Reply #57 on: June 20, 2009, 13:05 »
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Why would it mention that? We don't intend to go out of business...

Above is a post from StockXpert admin in response to a post about the StockXpert agreement not mentioning what happens to the balance when they go out of business.  I found that response very encouraging.


« Reply #58 on: June 20, 2009, 13:29 »
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I'd find it more encouraging if Admin actually answered the questions instead of just posting more vague, ambiguous teasers.  




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« Reply #59 on: June 20, 2009, 15:33 »
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What stockastic? You mean DOUBLE SPEAK, like politicians, or CEOs before they "restructure" and lay off everyone and then give themselves a fat bonus because there is a recession , or the company is in deep sh#t?
Well, it's in their blood? or should I say - in their mouth. They don't know how to tell the simple truth, or won't.
This way, they can say : we never said anything about NOT PAYING YOU, we only said we DON'T INTEND to go out of business. We went out of business, BUT that wasn't our INTENT.
You get it? No lies!

« Reply #60 on: August 03, 2009, 03:18 »
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StockXpert PPD 5$... Not bad , not bad!!!

StockXpert, live long and prosper!

« Reply #61 on: August 03, 2009, 12:58 »
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while sales have been  'normal'...     I am leary about uploading..   I like StockXpert and have had a good relationship with them and I want to upload....but...  sadly,  StockXpert isnt calling the shots now,   big brother seems to be....   
   and how does that translate down the road?  Quien sabe?  8)=tom

puravida

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« Reply #62 on: August 03, 2009, 13:12 »
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while sales have been  'normal'...     I am leary about uploading..   I like StockXpert and have had a good relationship with them and I want to upload....but...  sadly,  StockXpert isnt calling the shots now,   big brother seems to be....   
   and how does that translate down the road?  Quien sabe?  8)=tom

Quien sabe?
StockXpert me parece muerto.  como un cuerpo sin vivo ahorita cubierto con gusanos! guacala ! :o

« Reply #63 on: August 03, 2009, 13:21 »
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Won't StockXpert have a better chance of surviving if we keep uploading "unique" images there, padding their database?  
Is my reasoning totally naive?

 ;D Well, I can't make StockXpert better because I am almost equally approved at both StockXpert and IS.

The images IS reject are mostly crap anyway. At least in my case. I am very harsh on myself, and I suggest you do it too. Haven't seen your port but I think everyone should questions themselves before they get mad at the sites. Your approval ratio on IS will go up, if you find the answers! It is not like IS hates you  :D You gotta figure out what they want and stop shooting what they don't want.

WarrenPrice

« Reply #64 on: August 03, 2009, 13:36 »
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I don't upload to IS.  That was my point.  If they want to sell my images, they will have to sell them thru StockXpert ... or, let one of my other sites sell them.   :-\


« Reply #65 on: August 03, 2009, 13:48 »
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I don't upload to IS.  That was my point.  If they want to sell my images, they will have to sell them thru StockXpert ... or, let one of my other sites sell them.   :-\



They already let you sell through StockXpert.

Why wouldn't you uplaod to IS as well? There are enough customers for everysite. One of my friends is obsessed with dreamstime for example and no matter how many sites I introduce to him, he will still buy from dreamstime. Weird but true. Don't miss the IS obsessives!  ;D

Upload to IS, it is better than StockXpert. In my case 3 times better. For you, it could be even bigger difference. Gotta try!

puravida

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« Reply #66 on: August 03, 2009, 14:02 »
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Won't StockXpert have a better chance of surviving if we keep uploading "unique" images there, padding their database? 
Is my reasoning totally naive?

 ;D Well, I can't make StockXpert better because I am almost equally approved at both StockXpert and IS.

The images IS reject are mostly crap anyway. At least in my case. I am very harsh on myself, and I suggest you do it too. Haven't seen your port but I think everyone should questions themselves before they get mad at the sites. Your approval ratio on IS will go up, if you find the answers! It is not like IS hates you  :D You gotta figure out what they want and stop shooting what they don't want.

 not sure if I entirely agree with you.
at one time, it was easier to get approval with StockXpert than IS.
but lately, i find it weird that some of my rejected stuff at StockXpert are getting approved at IS.  you would expect it to be either equal or IS being more strict.

maybe i had atilla at StockXpert that day. rejected all my images which a week later got all approved by IS.

anyway, i think StockXpert is nuts and prefer it to die anyway. IS is definitely the place to be.

« Reply #67 on: August 03, 2009, 14:11 »
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Today I sold one of my photos for 5 $ on StockXpert...

« Reply #68 on: August 03, 2009, 14:42 »
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I am still getting plenty of PPD sales, so I will continue to upload until they stop. I do lots of illustrations, and IS doesn't like raster illustrations so much, so I will carry on them all to SX.

« Reply #69 on: August 03, 2009, 15:39 »
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I'll upload to StockXpert as long as it's open. Sales are still good for me there although 40-50% comes from JIU/Photos.com.Even without those though, it would still beat the crappy 123RF and every site that comes below that so why would I stop uploading there?

Upload process is easy and I don't remember the last time they rejected one of my photos.

« Reply #70 on: August 03, 2009, 16:01 »
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I'm still uploading, but I've noticed a big drop in sales recently. Sales at StockXpert seem to fluctuate a lot more than the amount of change I see at other sites, I wonder why? I've pretty much always been happy with them, but I do wish they had never started with subscriptions. Terrible idea, but everyone's doing it, unfortunately.

« Reply #71 on: August 03, 2009, 20:15 »
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Quien sabe?
StockXpert me parece muerto.  como un cuerpo sin vivo ahorita cubierto con gusanos! guacala ! :o

Yikes, obladihell.... my espanol isnt all that good, but.... I dont think StockXpert is yet a place dead and filled with worms... :D LOL  .....or did I miss in my translation? 8)=tom

« Reply #72 on: August 03, 2009, 21:02 »
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That's a pretty good translation Senor Tom!  ;)...lol
I stopped uploading to StockXpert a couple of weeks ago, too many strange things are happening there at the moment, I think I'll wait untill next month, after the 90 days have past and see what gives, very little sense at this moment to keep uploading without knowing what's going to happen with the Getty takeover, besides I still get sales from them on my older photos, so for now I'll just wait and see!  ;)
« Last Edit: August 03, 2009, 21:31 by [email protected] »

« Reply #73 on: August 04, 2009, 04:34 »
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I'm still uploading there but the site is seriously flawed in several ways, mainly due to the abuse of a few contributors.

There was the issue of some contributors having worked out how to bump their images up the sort order. That was known about by Admin months ago and is supposed to have been corrected but I don't think it has been. There appears to be a huge element of luck in how images perform at StockXpert due to the default sort-order algorithm. The vast majority of my sales at StockXpert come from an absurdly small proportion of my portfolio and most of my best-sellers there are fairly ordinary images which don't do particularly well elsewhere.

Yesterday I was researching how many views my recently uploaded images had had by doing a few searches and sorting them by "Date, descending". I noticed that one particular contributor had somehow managed to upload (and had approved) about 300 images from the same series of a couple of pizzas __ basically their entire allowance of 25-images-per day for 11 consecutive days! Obviously this has just shoved all the images approved before them so far down the search order that they are unlikely to be seen again. Just search for 'pizza chilli' to view them yourselves. IMHO this is crazy and is detrimental both to buyers and other contributors.

Is anybody actually taking charge of StockXpert? It just seems to be drifting along like a latter-day Marie Celeste.

abimages

« Reply #74 on: August 04, 2009, 15:58 »
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Yesterday I was researching how many views my recently uploaded images had had by doing a few searches and sorting them by "Date, descending". I noticed that one particular contributor had somehow managed to upload (and had approved) about 300 images from the same series of a couple of pizzas __ basically their entire allowance of 25-images-per day for 11 consecutive days! Obviously this has just shoved all the images approved before them so far down the search order that they are unlikely to be seen again. Just search for 'pizza chilli' to view them yourselves. IMHO this is crazy and is detrimental both to buyers and other contributors.



I looked, that is surely crazy!


 

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