Author Topic: Latest Symbiostock and Imagemagick (Read 10292 times)

steheap · « **on:** June 02, 2013, 09:07 »

I'm still trying to get myself up to date, but there is one area I'm confused about - Imagemagick.

I remember the earlier discussions around version 1.3 or so that Imagemagick was a much better solution for image processing. There was this comment from Bluehost support:

Quote

Hi,

To enable imagick you would just need to add the following line of code anywhere in your php.ini file(s):

extension=imagick.so

Good luck.

I then see references to issues with the processing, timeouts etc. and that we should wait until version 2 to fully resolve the issues.

So, my question: Now that we have a stable version 2 release, is Imagemagick used by default, or do I still need to add the line into my php.ini to make it work? Then, should I be reprocessing all the images I have already uploaded and are live on my site, or are most of you just taking those as they are and simply processing the ones that are uploaded from now onwards?

Anything else I should know about Imagemagick?

Steve

ajt · « **Reply #1 on:** June 02, 2013, 10:08 »

Upload one image, click on Process Images and if you will see ImageMagick, as here, everything is ok. If not you have to modify your php.ini.

steheap · « **Reply #2 on:** June 02, 2013, 10:47 »

OK - thanks! I found that I was still using GD, and so I added the line to my php.ini and now I am using ImageMagic.

So, on to the second question: Is it worth (or is it important to) reprocess all my existing images through ImageMagic? Assuming of course that it can be done without losing all my keywording and Google Image positions in search?

Steve

cathyslife · « **Reply #3 on:** June 02, 2013, 11:11 »

You can reprocess fairly easy and not time consuming...
Go to an image page, check all the images on that page, at the top where it says bulk actions, choose reprocess, hit apply. Do for each page. I believe that is all that needs to be done but I am fairly certain there is a thread about it. You might have to do some wading, though.

edit: here is a thread, try page 3

http://www.microstockgroup.com/symbiostock-development-area/1-3-7-image-watermark-reprocessing-meta-data-and-bug-fixes-breaktime/50/

This was for v1 though...I have not tried since then because I switched to ImageMagick right around this time, added the code to my php.ini file, and reprocessed. Since then, it automatically uses imagemagick. I have not even uploaded any images since I upgraded to the latest version yesterday. I am going to be doing that in a bit. Maybe someone else will jump in and confirm.

I might assume that since the reprocess bulk action is still there, that it still works as it did, but probably not safe to assume anything.

pling · « **Reply #4 on:** June 02, 2013, 11:26 »

Hi, I am also using GD, I host my site at Bluehost, can I change it to ImageMagic?
Can give me the line code that I need to add into php.ini?

cathyslife · « **Reply #5 on:** June 02, 2013, 11:35 »

Quote from: pling on June 02, 2013, 11:26

Hi, I am also using GD, I host my site at Bluehost, can I change it to ImageMagic?
Can give me the line code that I need to add into php.ini?

extension=imagick.so

you might read through that thread i posted above...discusses it quite a bit.

After you do it, upload one image and when you process, it should say something like "processing with imagemagick" at the top.

pling · « **Reply #6 on:** June 02, 2013, 11:38 »

Quote from: cclapper on June 02, 2013, 11:35

Quote from: pling on June 02, 2013, 11:26
Hi, I am also using GD, I host my site at Bluehost, can I change it to ImageMagic?
Can give me the line code that I need to add into php.ini?

extension=imagick.so

you might read through that thread i posted above...discusses it quite a bit.

After you do it, upload one image and when you process, it should say something like "processing with imagemagick" at the top.

thanks cclapper, I will read the thread to learn more.

sc · « **Reply #7 on:** June 02, 2013, 12:38 »

Quote from: steheap on June 02, 2013, 09:07

I'm still trying to get myself up to date, but there is one area I'm confused about - Imagemagick.

I remember the earlier discussions around version 1.3 or so that Imagemagick was a much better solution for image processing. There was this comment from Bluehost support:

Quote
Hi,

To enable imagick you would just need to add the following line of code anywhere in your php.ini file(s):

extension=imagick.so

Good luck.

I then see references to issues with the processing, timeouts etc. and that we should wait until version 2 to fully resolve the issues.

So, my question: Now that we have a stable version 2 release, is Imagemagick used by default, or do I still need to add the line into my php.ini to make it work? Then, should I be reprocessing all the images I have already uploaded and are live on my site, or are most of you just taking those as they are and simply processing the ones that are uploaded from now onwards?

Anything else I should know about Imagemagick?

Steve

I have missed this discussion and am totally confused- I have no idea where my php.ini files are located and where to put that line of code. I am guessing it is on Bluehost somewhere but I looked and don't see where I am supposed to do this.

Thanks for any help

Steve

cathyslife · « **Reply #8 on:** June 02, 2013, 12:43 »

Quote from: SC on June 02, 2013, 12:38

I have missed this discussion and am totally confused- I have no idea where my php.ini files are located and where to put that line of code. I am guessing it is on Bluehost somewhere but I looked and don't see where I am supposed to do this.

Thanks for any help

Steve

I had to call bluehost and have them generate a php.ini file for me. It will be in your root folder (public_html) if you have one. Its the same file that you needed to change the processing times on. I added the line right under the 3 lines that define memory limit, etc. I don't think it matters where you put it, as long as it's not in a commented-out area.

I am having issues though myself. I just noticed horizontal banding on some of my isolated (white) images. Apparently others had problems before but I did not so I totally missed that thread. Anyway, check out that thread too because it applies to processing-reprocessing with imagick.

sc · « **Reply #9 on:** June 02, 2013, 13:08 »

Thanks Cathy,
I actually found it under PHP Config under Software Services on the BlueHost Control Panel there is a box to tick for additional extensions.

Seems to be working just fine.

steheap · « **Reply #10 on:** June 02, 2013, 16:29 »

Thanks Cathy for the link to the other thread.

A question for those with large numbers of files on your sites - when Imagemagic was introduced, did you go back and reprocess all existing files?

I saw a mention of white lines in an isolated image - was that resolved? I don't want to spoil a working site for some potential benefits.

Steve

pling · « **Reply #11 on:** June 03, 2013, 05:35 »

Quote from: SC on June 02, 2013, 13:08

Thanks Cathy,
I actually found it under PHP Config under Software Services on the BlueHost Control Panel there is a box to tick for additional extensions.

Seems to be working just fine.

Hi Steve, I still waiting for bluehost support to reply my ticket regarding to generate the php.ini for me.
may I know when you use the PHP Config, do you select the php version? I saw the default option is selected PHP 5.2 (Single php.ini), not sure if this is the current version I am using. I am worry if I selected wrong version will cause my website to have problem.

sc · « **Reply #12 on:** June 03, 2013, 07:58 »

Quote from: pling on June 03, 2013, 05:35

Quote from: SC on June 02, 2013, 13:08
Thanks Cathy,
I actually found it under PHP Config under Software Services on the BlueHost Control Panel there is a box to tick for additional extensions.

Seems to be working just fine.

Hi Steve, I still waiting for bluehost support to reply my ticket regarding to generate the php.ini for me.
may I know when you use the PHP Config, do you select the php version? I saw the default option is selected PHP 5.2 (Single php.ini), not sure if this is the current version I am using. I am worry if I selected wrong version will cause my website to have problem.

Hi Pling,

I just left the default setting and chose the extension to add.
I was a bit concerned but went for it anyway and all seems to be fine.

Steve

pling · « **Reply #13 on:** June 03, 2013, 11:25 »

Quote from: SC on June 03, 2013, 07:58

Hi Pling,

I just left the default setting and chose the extension to add.
I was a bit concerned but went for it anyway and all seems to be fine.

Steve

Hi Steve, thanks for the info, bluehost support help me generated the php.ini and also added the extension for me. May be you can ask support to generate the php.ini for you too, so that you can increase the upload_max_filesize and post_max_size, I have some image size over 10M unable to process before increase upload_max_filesize, now I have no problem to process these file after increase to 32M.

THP Creative · « **Reply #14 on:** June 03, 2013, 22:54 »

Have noticed a REALLY frustrating thing...

I just uploaded 200+mb of files to my site. Then I got distracted with other things, came back, upgraded my site to the newest version. Now my new uploads (that weren't processed yet) are GONE!

This triggered a memory of something similar happening before. I think when you upgrade the theme you loose any uploads that haven't yet been processed to drafts!

Can anyone else confirm this?

Kerioak~Christine · « **Reply #15 on:** June 04, 2013, 00:48 »

Yes, it happened to me on my testing site when Leo was installing the first v2 while I was uploading. Not only did they disappear but the ones that had made it all had reflections that I could not delete. I have not updated while uploading since

Leo Blanchette · « **Reply #16 on:** June 04, 2013, 01:16 »

That happens because the upload directory is in the theme folder. Reflections (if I'm not mistaken) are turned off permanently now.

Generally you should at least process to draft immediately after uploading.

THP Creative · « **Reply #17 on:** June 04, 2013, 02:01 »

Good to know! Good for others to know too I think

BTW - is it possible and relatively easy for you to make the Process Images page paginated, rather than one long list of endless images? That way, we could choose to view say 20 images at a time and click the "all" tick box like all other image list pages have to quickly select 20 images to process, rather than manually clicking on 20 separate images? It wasn't a problem when you could process 100 images all at once with no issues, but now that we are processing only 15-20 images at a time (to prevent time outs etc) it would be handy.

Leo Blanchette · « **Reply #18 on:** June 04, 2013, 03:19 »

Very hard. I could make it show/process a max number (like 20), but that might be a little excessive when people are still waiting on stuff like extended licenses.

Kerioak~Christine · « **Reply #19 on:** June 04, 2013, 03:28 »

I think if we manage to talk Leo into anything over the summer it should be on the customer/getting customers side now - extended licences - I am quite happy to negotiate those with anyone who is interested although clients might want to do it automatically if they want them.

Plug in for Picturengine maybe for those of us who would like to try it

THP Creative · « **Reply #20 on:** June 04, 2013, 03:29 »

Quote from: Leo on June 04, 2013, 03:19

Very hard. I could make it show/process a max number (like 20), but that might be a little excessive when people are still waiting on stuff like extended licenses.

no worries. Forget about it then

steheap · « **Reply #21 on:** June 04, 2013, 14:14 »

Some great updates here - thanks!

However, I'm not sure I know the answer to the original question though - did the people who had a fair number of images online when the system moved to ImageMagic go back and reprocess the original uploads - is there is specific benefit in doing that?

Steve

cathyslife · « **Reply #22 on:** June 04, 2013, 15:19 »

Quote from: steheap on June 04, 2013, 14:14

Some great updates here - thanks!

However, I'm not sure I know the answer to the original question though - did the people who had a fair number of images online when the system moved to ImageMagic go back and reprocess the original uploads - is there is specific benefit in doing that?

Steve

Yes, i went back and reprocessed. Apparently I missed some though. Some of my images not reprocessed are showing gray horizontal lines in the isolated images. I had to reprocess those. Apparently imagemagick gets rid of the horiz lines.

Kerioak~Christine · « **Reply #23 on:** June 04, 2013, 15:23 »

I reprocessed as well but cannot now remember why, think I did 50 at a time, maybe it was to get rid of the lines someone found on my clothes airer, perhaps to try and get sharper previews-it sems many updates ago

sc · « **Reply #24 on:** June 04, 2013, 15:45 »

I did reprocess all of mine as well. I didn't seen anything wrong with them but I did it anyway.
Took a while though with some 2300 images already up loaded.

I thought the main reason to switch to that processor was to fix some IPTC issues.

Kerioak~Christine · « **Reply #25 on:** June 04, 2013, 15:51 »

Yes you are right, leo will have my hide for forgetting that. Blame it on al the painkillers etc

steheap · « **Reply #26 on:** June 04, 2013, 15:54 »

Great - thats all I need to know. I'll set to work to reprocess mine before I go any further with new ones.

Steve

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