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« on: September 02, 2013, 11:48 »
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I took out a vaultpress subscription, as it sounded great. However, I need to warn any other symbiostock member that they don't back up the root directory and this is particulary an issue for the Symbiostock_rf directory. This contains all of your high res images. The only way I can see around the problem is to create a folder in your wp content/uploads folder, and then copy your files across.

If u lose files from this directory you will need to reupload, and keyword them.

This means that if you add an image, you also need to manually copy it across.

Do other backup solutions offer root back up?


« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2013, 12:12 »
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I don't know if I'm getting all the files I need as I don't fully understand what's needed for back up but as a start I installed the UpDraftPro UpdraftPlus plugin.  It was highly rated with 5 stars and the set up couldn't have been easier.  I have the basic package without any of the upgrades.  My site with about 300 files took 10 minutes to back up.  I backed up to Dropbox and can easily transfer the files to another location for added security.  There are 5 folders that backed up including one labeled db.gz which I suspect is the database and another named Uploads. In that file is a folder labeled Symbiostock_rf_content and it appears to have compressed versions of the mini-pics and the larger watermarked image. 

I'm not sure that it's backing up everything I need but it was a free, easy start to get something backed up while I figure out the best option.  You may want to test it out to see if it's giving everything needed to restore.  They did say that don't back up the basic WP installation since that is easy to reinstall from WP if necessary so I guess in a total crash you might need to set up a new WP installation and load your files into that.
« Last Edit: September 02, 2013, 12:52 by klsbear »

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« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2013, 12:21 »
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I don't know if I'm getting all the files I need as I don't fully understand what's needed for back up but as a start I installed the UpDraftPro plugin.  It was highly rated with 5 stars and the set up couldn't have been easier.  I have the basic package without any of the upgrades.  My site with about 300 files took 10 minutes to back up.  I backed up to Dropbox and can easily transfer the files to another location for added security.  There are 5 folders that backed up including one labeled db.gz which I suspect is the database and another named Uploads. In that file is a folder labeled Symbiostock_rf_content and it appears to have compressed versions of the mini-pics and the larger watermarked image. 

I'm not sure that it's backing up everything I need but it was a free, easy start to get something backed up while I figure out the best option.  You may want to test it out to see if it's giving everything needed to restore.  They did say that don't back up the basic WP installation since that is easy to reinstall from WP if necessary so I guess in a total crash you might need to set up a new WP installation and load your files into that.

Is that UpdraftPro or UpdraftPlus?  I use the Plus version and it works well except the default setting it does not backup your images.


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« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2013, 12:25 »
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I don't know if I'm getting all the files I need as I don't fully understand what's needed for back up but as a start I installed the UpDraftPro plugin.  It was highly rated with 5 stars and the set up couldn't have been easier. ...


Are you talking about this plugin which hasn't been updated in the last two years rated with 3.7 stars?
http://wordpress.org/plugins/updraft/

« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2013, 12:35 »
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I am currently looking at all sorts but think that dropmysite.com might win

« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2013, 12:51 »
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I don't know if I'm getting all the files I need as I don't fully understand what's needed for back up but as a start I installed the UpDraftPro plugin.  It was highly rated with 5 stars and the set up couldn't have been easier.  I have the basic package without any of the upgrades.  My site with about 300 files took 10 minutes to back up.  I backed up to Dropbox and can easily transfer the files to another location for added security.  There are 5 folders that backed up including one labeled db.gz which I suspect is the database and another named Uploads. In that file is a folder labeled Symbiostock_rf_content and it appears to have compressed versions of the mini-pics and the larger watermarked image. 

I'm not sure that it's backing up everything I need but it was a free, easy start to get something backed up while I figure out the best option.  You may want to test it out to see if it's giving everything needed to restore.  They did say that don't back up the basic WP installation since that is easy to reinstall from WP if necessary so I guess in a total crash you might need to set up a new WP installation and load your files into that.

Is that UpdraftPro or UpdraftPlus?  I use the Plus version and it works well except the default setting it does not backup your images.

Yes, my error, it's Updraft Plus.  Is there a setting that should be triggered that does back up the images or does it require one of the paid up upgrades to back up the images or isn't that even an option?  I guess the images I'm seeing are the watermarked preview and the mini's for thumbnails.  As mentioned, I'm still trying to figure out the backup language and process.

« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2013, 12:53 »
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I don't know if I'm getting all the files I need as I don't fully understand what's needed for back up but as a start I installed the UpDraftPro plugin.  It was highly rated with 5 stars and the set up couldn't have been easier. ...


Are you talking about this plugin which hasn't been updated in the last two years rated with 3.7 stars?
http://wordpress.org/plugins/updraft/


No, Updraftpro UpdraftPlus has 5 stars over 249 ratings and last update is listed as 4 days ago.
« Last Edit: September 02, 2013, 12:59 by klsbear »

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« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2013, 12:55 »
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I don't know if I'm getting all the files I need as I don't fully understand what's needed for back up but as a start I installed the UpDraftPro plugin.  It was highly rated with 5 stars and the set up couldn't have been easier. ...


Are you talking about this plugin which hasn't been updated in the last two years rated with 3.7 stars?
http://wordpress.org/plugins/updraft/


No, UpdraftPro has 5 stars over 249 ratings and last update is listed as 4 days ago.

You meant UpdraftPlus, right?

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« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2013, 13:00 »
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The following directories need to be backed up:

<web root> - This directory will contain Symbiostock source code, php.ini, files from Google and Bing for their WebMaster tools, robots.txt, etc.  The name of this directory will vary depending upon the host.  On GoDaddy, it is called html in my setup.

/<web root>/symbiostock_ipn - This directory contains Symbiostock source code for PayPal IPN.

/<web root>/symbiostock_network - This directory contains Symbiostock CSV files from other Symbiostock websites (including the ones that you put in your network).

/<web root>/symbiostock_rf - This directory contains all of your (renamed) original files.

/<web root>/wp_admin - This directory contains php source code.

/<web root>/wp_content - This is the main directory and contains Symbiostock source code, WordPress & Symbiostock themes, WordPress & Symbiostock plugins, etc.

/<web root>/wp_includes - This directory contains php source code.

You also need to take a backup of your MySQL database and include that in your backup.

If you backup everything from <web root> down, then you can probably exclude any directory that isn't on the list above (such as the symbiostock_xml_cache directory).

« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2013, 13:01 »
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I don't know if I'm getting all the files I need as I don't fully understand what's needed for back up but as a start I installed the UpDraftPro plugin.  It was highly rated with 5 stars and the set up couldn't have been easier. ...


Are you talking about this plugin which hasn't been updated in the last two years rated with 3.7 stars?
http://wordpress.org/plugins/updraft/


No, UpdraftPro has 5 stars over 249 ratings and last update is listed as 4 days ago.

You meant UpdraftPlus, right?

Agghhhh - where's that little emoticon bashing it's head on a brick wall?  Yes. Updraft PLUS

It looks like you need the $15 add-on to back up additional files beyond the default options.

quailrunphoto

« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2013, 13:03 »
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I don't know if I'm getting all the files I need as I don't fully understand what's needed for back up but as a start I installed the UpDraftPro plugin.  It was highly rated with 5 stars and the set up couldn't have been easier.  I have the basic package without any of the upgrades.  My site with about 300 files took 10 minutes to back up.  I backed up to Dropbox and can easily transfer the files to another location for added security.  There are 5 folders that backed up including one labeled db.gz which I suspect is the database and another named Uploads. In that file is a folder labeled Symbiostock_rf_content and it appears to have compressed versions of the mini-pics and the larger watermarked image. 

I'm not sure that it's backing up everything I need but it was a free, easy start to get something backed up while I figure out the best option.  You may want to test it out to see if it's giving everything needed to restore.  They did say that don't back up the basic WP installation since that is easy to reinstall from WP if necessary so I guess in a total crash you might need to set up a new WP installation and load your files into that.

Is that UpdraftPro or UpdraftPlus?  I use the Plus version and it works well except the default setting it does not backup your images.

Yes, my error, it's Updraft Plus.  Is there a setting that should be triggered that does back up the images or does it require one of the paid up upgrades to back up the images or isn't that even an option?  I guess the images I'm seeing are the watermarked preview and the mini's for thumbnails.  As mentioned, I'm still trying to figure out the backup language and process.

I am researching the options, but the standard free version does not backup your images.  It only backups the content of wp-content, it does not do your root directory.  So you can restore your wordpress web site, but none of the Symbiostock images.

There is an add on call More Files for UpdraftPlus, and I am researching that.


« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2013, 13:04 »
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@ShazamImages - thank you for the detailed list.  That's a huge help in understanding what I need to have backed up.

stockphoto-images.com

« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2013, 13:05 »
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Agghhhh - where's that little emoticon bashing it's head on a brick wall?  Yes. Updraft PLUS

Ah, I was just teasing ya. :) It's all good.

quailrunphoto

« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2013, 13:05 »
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I took out a vaultpress subscription, as it sounded great. However, I need to warn any other symbiostock member that they don't back up the root directory and this is particulary an issue for the Symbiostock_rf directory. This contains all of your high res images. The only way I can see around the problem is to create a folder in your wp content/uploads folder, and then copy your files across.

If u lose files from this directory you will need to reupload, and keyword them.

This means that if you add an image, you also need to manually copy it across.

Do other backup solutions offer root back up?

I forgot to ask, did you check with your web host to see if they offer backup/restore options?  My host is Bluehost and they have a free backup/restore feature.


« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2013, 13:34 »
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Agghhhh - where's that little emoticon bashing it's head on a brick wall?  Yes. Updraft PLUS

It looks like you need the $15 add-on to back up additional files beyond the default options.

Yep, just investigated it as well. Also, I already have a free DropBox account, but that only comes with 2gb of space, and i believe a zip file will be close to or over that already.

I also just tried to create a .zip file in File Manager in the cpanel at bluehost. It goes for a minute, then quits. Looks like I'm still stuck with my ftp solution for now.
« Last Edit: September 02, 2013, 13:36 by cathyslife stockphotos.com »

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« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2013, 13:38 »
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Agghhhh - where's that little emoticon bashing it's head on a brick wall?  Yes. Updraft PLUS

It looks like you need the $15 add-on to back up additional files beyond the default options.

Yep, just investigated it as well. Also, I already have a free DropBox account, but that only comes with 2gb of space, and i believe a zip file will be close to or over that already.

I also just tried to create a .zip file in File Manager in the cpanel at bluehost. It goes for a minute, then quits. Looks like I'm still stuck with my ftp solution for now.

There are ways of getting more free dropbox space, mine is upto 2.5 gb.  You might check their web site for the steps you have to go thru.
 

« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2013, 14:04 »
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I forgot to ask, did you check with your web host to see if they offer backup/restore options?  My host is Bluehost and they have a free backup/restore feature.

So do Justhost (same group as Bluehost) and they selectively back up - and lose files.  I am having to re-do four months work as all  my images from the symbiostock_rf file up to beginning of August are missing and they do not have backups.  Total of 1,202 files I have to redo

quailrunphoto

« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2013, 14:07 »
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I forgot to ask, did you check with your web host to see if they offer backup/restore options?  My host is Bluehost and they have a free backup/restore feature.

So do Justhost (same group as Bluehost) and they selectively back up - and lose files.  I am having to re-do four months work as all  my images from the symbiostock_rf file up to beginning of August are missing and they do not have backups.  Total of 1,202 files I have to redo

That is terrible.  I had better check my backups.  Thanks for the information.

« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2013, 14:20 »
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So do Justhost (same group as Bluehost) and they selectively back up - and lose files.  I am having to re-do four months work as all  my images from the symbiostock_rf file up to beginning of August are missing and they do not have backups.  Total of 1,202 files I have to redo

And Bluehost's backup system has been broken for a couple of months (for me, anyway). Here's the latest email from them, after I opened a ticket today:

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Hello!

Thank you for contacting us about this.

On the server that you are on, the backups aren't all mounted yet (meaning they are not available to use at this time.) I have reported it to our system administrators to get it taken care of.  I would also like to let you know that due to the holiday we are short staffed, and the resolution might not happen today.

Holiday or not, I have reported it numerous times over the past couple of months. No, I wouldn't expect that it would get done today.

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From quail run:
There are ways of getting more free dropbox space, mine is upto 2.5 gb.  You might check their web site for the steps you have to go thru.

The last backup I did with bluehost on jun-23-13 is 2.18gb zipped. Since then I have added many more images, so not sure 2.5gb will help. But I will check it out, just in case.

marthamarks

« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2013, 14:26 »
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The following directories need to be backed up:

<web root> - This directory will contain Symbiostock source code, php.ini, files from Google and Bing for their WebMaster tools, robots.txt, etc.  The name of this directory will vary depending upon the host.  On GoDaddy, it is called html in my setup.

/<web root>/symbiostock_ipn - This directory contains Symbiostock source code for PayPal IPN.

/<web root>/symbiostock_network - This directory contains Symbiostock CSV files from other Symbiostock websites (including the ones that you put in your network).

/<web root>/symbiostock_rf - This directory contains all of your (renamed) original files.

/<web root>/wp_admin - This directory contains php source code.

/<web root>/wp_content - This is the main directory and contains Symbiostock source code, WordPress & Symbiostock themes, WordPress & Symbiostock plugins, etc.

/<web root>/wp_includes - This directory contains php source code.

You also need to take a backup of your MySQL database and include that in your backup.

If you backup everything from <web root> down, then you can probably exclude any directory that isn't on the list above (such as the symbiostock_xml_cache directory).

Shazam, thanks for that good info. I also have VaultPress and was assuming it was backing up the whole site. If it's not getting the images, then it's not worth while.

BUT... I so have a couple of (probably dumb) questions:

Where does one find those directories??? I have no clue where to find them

Where does one put them so they'll be backed up??? I have no clue about that either.

Many thanks!

quailrunphoto

« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2013, 14:38 »
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Agghhhh - where's that little emoticon bashing it's head on a brick wall?  Yes. Updraft PLUS

It looks like you need the $15 add-on to back up additional files beyond the default options.

Yep, just investigated it as well. Also, I already have a free DropBox account, but that only comes with 2gb of space, and i believe a zip file will be close to or over that already.

I also just tried to create a .zip file in File Manager in the cpanel at bluehost. It goes for a minute, then quits. Looks like I'm still stuck with my ftp solution for now.
I had the same problem with their Site Backup application after their big outage last month.  I starting complaining on their twitter support account and got a faster response.  Since then I have not had any problems and my backup zip files are complete including all images.  Keep bugging them daily if you have to.  You paid for that service with your fees.


« Reply #21 on: September 02, 2013, 15:51 »
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Here's my theory.
If you have SSH access to your website, you could run a file/directory compression of the entire site (including database backups) creating one .zip or .tgz file.
This file could then be downloaded to your computer or directly to your cloud storage. Or both.

« Reply #22 on: September 02, 2013, 16:02 »
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Currently downloading unzipped, 1 started before I saw your post, 2 no idea how to do it, site files to an external harddrive and will leave running overnight to see what happens

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« Reply #23 on: September 02, 2013, 16:24 »
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Where does one find those directories??? I have no clue where to find them

They will be on your host.  Usually they are in your web root directory.  My web root (on GoDaddy) is called html, but your might be different.  You would need to use software, such as PuTTY, to connect to the server.  The best thing to do would be to zip up the files (so the download will be much smaller) and then download them to another server.  I download them to my local computer using FileZilla.

Where does one put them so they'll be backed up??? I have no clue about that either.

You can put them anywhere you like.  I put them in a directory (which I created) called file_backups.

marthamarks

« Reply #24 on: September 02, 2013, 16:26 »
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Where does one find those directories??? I have no clue where to find them

They will be on your host.  Usually they are in your web root directory.  My web root (on GoDaddy) is called html, but your might be different.  You would need to use software, such as PuTTY, to connect to the server.  The best thing to do would be to zip up the files (so the download will be much smaller) and then download them to another server.  I download them to my local computer using FileZilla.

Where does one put them so they'll be backed up??? I have no clue about that either.

You can put them anywhere you like.  I put them in a directory (which I created) called file_backups.

OK! Thanks Shazam. I'm learning...  :)

« Reply #25 on: September 02, 2013, 17:46 »
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I have my WordPress installation in the /blog subdirectory of my site root, so I just sent a query to VaultPress to ask about whether they'd backup everything in the /blog subdirectory or only the known wp-xxx subdirectories. I'll post here when I get a reply. What I'd like is if they'd take the entire contents of [root]/blog and then I'd be all set.

For anyone looking to use Dropbox, you can add 1GB to the free space you get by installing the iOS Mailbox app and connecting it to your dropbox account. You don't have to keep using it to keep the space :)

http://howto.cnet.com/8301-11310_39-57599334-285/get-1gb-extra-dropbox-space-just-for-using-mailbox/


« Reply #26 on: September 02, 2013, 18:11 »
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I received a reply from VaultPress (very prompt, especially for a holiday weekend)

"Hi Jo Ann,

VaultPress will only back up select files or folders in the root directory. You can find more details about what we do back up here:

http://help.vaultpress.com/get-to-know/

The additional directories you mention won't be backed up.

Best,
Chris"


They were my first choice option of the ones I looked at, but I'd prefer to find something that handles all the files versus just some. Bummer

marthamarks

« Reply #27 on: September 02, 2013, 20:59 »
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I'm here to publicly thank Picture5469 for hand-holding my efforts to get VaultPress to back up my images as well as other files.

Picture5469 and I were PMing for 2-3 hours tonight. Somewhere-in-England to Santa Fe-NM-USA and back and forth in "real time." (I'm old enough to find that truly amazing, even if some of you techies are not.)

End of story is... I managed to get it done, but only thanks to Picture5469's know-how and patience. Now I think I know enough to pay it forward if anybody else needs help doing that down the line.

Thank you, Mark!   :-*

« Reply #28 on: September 02, 2013, 23:20 »
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I'm here to publicly thank Picture5469 for hand-holding my efforts to get VaultPress to back up my images as well as other files.

Picture5469 and I were PMing for 2-3 hours tonight. Somewhere-in-England to Santa Fe-NM-USA and back and forth in "real time." (I'm old enough to find that truly amazing, even if some of you techies are not.)

End of story is... I managed to get it done, but only thanks to Picture5469's know-how and patience. Now I think I know enough to pay it forward if anybody else needs help doing that down the line.

Thank you, Mark!   :-*

If I understand you correctly, you (two) were able to get VaultPress to back up the symbiostock_rf directory? If so, (a) that's good news as I was thinking I had to rule VaultPress out as a backup solution and (b) the answer I got from support wasn't correct.

Can you run down what needs to be done here on MSG?

marthamarks

« Reply #29 on: September 02, 2013, 23:43 »
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I'm here to publicly thank Picture5469 for hand-holding my efforts to get VaultPress to back up my images as well as other files.

Picture5469 and I were PMing for 2-3 hours tonight. Somewhere-in-England to Santa Fe-NM-USA and back and forth in "real time." (I'm old enough to find that truly amazing, even if some of you techies are not.)

End of story is... I managed to get it done, but only thanks to Picture5469's know-how and patience. Now I think I know enough to pay it forward if anybody else needs help doing that down the line.

Thank you, Mark!   :-*

If I understand you correctly, you (two) were able to get VaultPress to back up the symbiostock_rf directory? If so, (a) that's good news as I was thinking I had to rule VaultPress out as a backup solution and (b) the answer I got from support wasn't correct.

Can you run down what needs to be done here on MSG?

I'll try! Let's see if I can replicate what I did earlier tonight.

1. I went to my Bluehost Control Panel
2. went into the "File Mgmt" area
3. selected the Directory named "Web Root"
4. clicked the + beside the "www" button at the bottom of the left-hand list (to expand what shows there)
5. clicked the + beside the "wp-content" folder
6. clicked the + beside the "uploads" folder
7. inside that "uploads" folder, I created a new file that I named BACKUP_RF (to create that, I clicked the "New Folder" button on the left side of the top menu bar)
8. refreshed my browser window.

Then...

9. I copied all my image files from the "symbiostock_rf" file that's close to the top of the long list of files on the left. Mark made it clear: You want to copy these images, not simply move them. And above all, don't erase them!!!

Here's the trick for copying and moving images. Select 1-2 images to learn on. Select them, begin dragging them to the new folder you've created, but while you're dragging them hold down the CONTROL button. If you don't hold that down, you'll be moving them, not copying them. You want to wind up with 2 complete sets of images so VaultPress will find a set in the Uploads folder that it saves for you.

Once you've figured out how to move 1-2 images, then try for 6, and if you've got the technique down, you can move your entire port over in one fell swoop (or in a few smaller swoops). It's actually very easy once you get the motion right. All in the wrist. :-)

Sure enough, when VaultPress saved my file soon after that, my dashboard showed it going from 3454 uploads to 4839. So it seems to have gotten all those image files it wasn't getting before.

One caveat:
Mark warned me that Bluehost won't like having duplicate sets of images in "storage". Even if it's for a good cause like allowing VP to find them. So this may not wind up being a good permanent solution. However, for now I'm happy that at least I do have a reliable backup of all images on my site to date.


I hope I got all the steps right and that it helps you do what I did tonight. With Mark's help, of course, because I would NEVER have figured this out without him.
« Last Edit: September 02, 2013, 23:52 by marthamarks »

« Reply #30 on: September 02, 2013, 23:54 »
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Thank you so much for that explanation.

Copying the files could be a huge overhead for large portfolios with large image files (my symbiostock_rf folder is 3.7GB and I have only 400 images uploaded so far). I know that Bluehost says "unlimited" for storage, but they have all sorts of caveats about not using it for file backup.

I'm currently inclined to go with UpdraftPlus with the $15 extra files plugin add on and paying for storage (probably via Dropbox where you can get 100GB for $99 a year). As you've already signed up with VaultPress, it's probably a good idea to try and keep this going for a bit.

Have you given any thought to how you'll keep your copies up to date as you add files to your site - assuming you don't just delete the copy and re-create it each time you do a backup?

marthamarks

« Reply #31 on: September 03, 2013, 00:01 »
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Have you given any thought to how you'll keep your copies up to date as you add files to your site - assuming you don't just delete the copy and re-create it each time you do a backup?

I understand I'll have to copy all new image files into that new BACKUP_RF folder I created in the "uploads" folder. So as I upload a new batch, I'll copy them into that. It's not a hard project to do, just gotta remember to do it.

You're probably smart to try Updraft Plus, even with the extra fee and Dropbox upgrade to store it all. If Bluehost balks at letting me store 2 copies of my images for this purpose, I'll surely follow you down that same road.

So... please do give it a try and let us all know how it goes!
« Last Edit: September 03, 2013, 00:06 by marthamarks »

« Reply #32 on: September 03, 2013, 00:57 »
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So... please do give it a try and let us all know how it goes!

Will do. My first backup has started - it's making the zip files now and I'll get an e-mail of the log file when it's done. Fingers crossed...

timd35

« Reply #33 on: September 03, 2013, 11:14 »
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I am currently looking at all sorts but think that dropmysite.com might win

Same here. I was looking at either dropmysite.com or codeguard.com. But I think for the price dropmysite looks pretty good for the features. Anyone have experience with either?

« Reply #34 on: September 03, 2013, 11:20 »
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Not yet, I did a site download to an external hard drive last night and will do another full one tonight as I have re-done a lot of images today.

I did start a free trial of SiteVault but first it stalled and then I realised it was backing up a lot of stuff I did not want it to and I could not work out how to choose.  A Cloud (they always sound so insubstantial and unreliable to me) might be the best choice but not until the site starts really earning it's own and my keep

« Reply #35 on: September 03, 2013, 15:09 »
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« Reply #36 on: September 04, 2013, 08:43 »
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How to back up your entire Symbiostock website (in less than one hour) ➤


I'm not sure that you are completely backing up your site properly.  According to your blog, you are backing up "the /symbiostock/ folder".  But that doesn't contain everything.  See my post here for a list of directories that need to be backed up:

http://www.microstockgroup.com/symbiostock-general/backup-vaultpress/msg342205/#msg342205

« Reply #37 on: September 04, 2013, 11:00 »
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http://www.microstockgroup.com/symbiostock-general/backing-up/msg342739/#msg342739

I put my description of how UpdraftPlus is working for me in the other backup thread

« Reply #38 on: September 04, 2013, 11:38 »
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How to back up your entire Symbiostock website (in less than one hour) ➤


I'm not sure that you are completely backing up your site properly.  According to your blog, you are backing up "the /symbiostock/ folder".  But that doesn't contain everything.  See my post here for a list of directories that need to be backed up:

http://www.microstockgroup.com/symbiostock-general/backup-vaultpress/msg342205/#msg342205


I have my complete Wordpress/SYMBIOSTOCK installation in the folder "symbiostock". It's backing up everything that belongs to the site.

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« Reply #39 on: September 04, 2013, 12:06 »
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How to back up your entire Symbiostock website (in less than one hour) ➤


I'm not sure that you are completely backing up your site properly.  According to your blog, you are backing up "the /symbiostock/ folder".  But that doesn't contain everything.  See my post here for a list of directories that need to be backed up:

http://www.microstockgroup.com/symbiostock-general/backup-vaultpress/msg342205/#msg342205


I have my complete Wordpress/SYMBIOSTOCK installation in the folder "symbiostock". It's backing up everything that belongs to the site.


OK, I thought that you were only backing up the symbiostock directory under wp-content/themes/

« Reply #40 on: September 04, 2013, 12:31 »
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I have my complete Wordpress/SYMBIOSTOCK installation in the folder "symbiostock". It's backing up everything that belongs to the site.

This is not a backup question, but one about site setup. It sounds as if you have your WordPress installation somewhere other than the site root, as I do (except that my directory is called /blog not /symbiostock). I wonder why you didn't have all the problems I did (which Leo has given me a separate "funky fixes" plugin to work around) with links being wrong because the site URL wasn't the same as the WordPress installation?


timd35

« Reply #41 on: September 04, 2013, 12:56 »
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I have my complete Wordpress/SYMBIOSTOCK installation in the folder "symbiostock". It's backing up everything that belongs to the site.

This is not a backup question, but one about site setup. It sounds as if you have your WordPress installation somewhere other than the site root, as I do (except that my directory is called /blog not /symbiostock). I wonder why you didn't have all the problems I did (which Leo has given me a separate "funky fixes" plugin to work around) with links being wrong because the site URL wasn't the same as the WordPress installation?

FYI... My site is not in the root either but thru my hosts cPanel I have configured a subdomain called stock.tdahlphotography.com and pointed it to the folder where I installed symbiostock. So all references in WP and SY point to stock.tdahlphotography.com.

« Reply #42 on: September 04, 2013, 13:15 »
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FYI... My site is not in the root either but thru my hosts cPanel I have configured a subdomain called stock.tdahlphotography.com and pointed it to the folder where I installed symbiostock. So all references in WP and SY point to stock.tdahlphotography.com.

That may be the difference. I used WordPress's internal option in Settings/General to indicate that the site URL was something other than the WordPress installation URL. I have subdomains on the site for other areas, so perhaps this is a better way to implement the "WP in its own folder" setup than using WordPress to do it. And it would allow Leo (a) to recommend the best way for people to do this sort of installation and (b) drop the notion of the funky fixes plugin to make my configuration work.

Thanks.

timd35

« Reply #43 on: September 04, 2013, 13:32 »
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No problem at all. I just threw it out there as info. Did not know if it would help or not.

« Reply #44 on: September 05, 2013, 13:28 »
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It did help, and I've now implemented it. It still appears that my site is at the top level of the domain - I didn't want to have to put stock.digitalbristles.com - because I've moved around the top level domain name to something else.

So glad this is resolved :)

« Reply #45 on: September 06, 2013, 03:56 »
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I just skimmed through all the backup problems here in this thread and want to recommend using blogVault as WordPress and Symbiostock backup solution.

blogVault not only backups all of your Wordpress, you can also request to backup another folder outsite of the WordPress installation.

Try it for yourself: http://blogvault.net?src=amosnet and please get back to after your free 7 day trial to receive the exclusive special offer!

I'm affiliated with blogVault because they backup all my websites as well and i run their german sales team. We at blogVault have discussed to give Symbiostock users a excluive discount and i strongly recommend that you try our backup solution for free.

We have backuped very large sites with gigbytes of data without any issues. I know that vaultpress is also an OK service but they have had several problems with my host, where slow and do not have a test-restore feature. This test-restore feature will let you test the backup blogVault has created and see if all your Symbiostock is fully and properly backed up.

Looking forward to your questions.

timd35

« Reply #46 on: September 06, 2013, 08:00 »
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It did help, and I've now implemented it. It still appears that my site is at the top level of the domain - I didn't want to have to put stock.digitalbristles.com - because I've moved around the top level domain name to something else.

So glad this is resolved :)

Excellent. Glad to hear   :)


 

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