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Title: How Many Symbiostock Images Will There Be By End of Year?
Post by: ShazamImages on August 22, 2013, 18:22
Now that Symbiostock has crossed the 100,000 image barrier, what is your guess to how many total Symbiostock images there will be (as displayed on Symbiostock.info) by the end of the year (12/31/2013 11:59 PM GMT)?

My guess is 250,000.
Title: Re: How Many Symbiostock Images Will There Be By End of Year?
Post by: cathyslife on August 22, 2013, 18:29
Meh.
Title: Re: How Many Symbiostock Images Will There Be By End of Year?
Post by: cidepix on August 22, 2013, 18:38
should've added a poll :)

It really depends if the premium version wil be free or not..

It could be anything from 200k to 500k or a million depending on how the project evolves..
Title: Re: How Many Symbiostock Images Will There Be By End of Year?
Post by: Leo Blanchette on August 22, 2013, 18:42
should've added a poll :)

It really depends if the premium version wil be free or not..

It could be anything from 200k to 500k or a million depending on how the project evolves..

The premium version is ready. I haven't released it because I only get to make this decision once:

FREE or NOT.

In the end, I still need a way to profit.

That being said I'm working completely with free software now:

Eclipse, Ubuntu, Linux, Blender 3d... best of the best.  Free. And people still profit somewhere.

I'll get back to you. I just need to perfect my own profit model and Premium will be available.
Title: Re: How Many Symbiostock Images Will There Be By End of Year?
Post by: cidepix on August 22, 2013, 18:54
should've added a poll :)

It really depends if the premium version wil be free or not..

It could be anything from 200k to 500k or a million depending on how the project evolves..

The premium version is ready. I haven't released it because I only get to make this decision once:

FREE or NOT.

In the end, I still need a way to profit.

That being said I'm working completely with free software now:

Eclipse, Ubuntu, Linux, Blender 3d... best of the best.  Free. And people still profit somewhere.

I'll get back to you. I just need to perfect my own profit model and Premium will be available.

Yeap! You should definitely find the best way to monetize it without hindering its growth..

I thought your initial idea of a free theme and paid plugins was great.. it could have been like $15 per plugin and $75 for a plugin bundle.. so keeping everyone on the same theme would have been easier..

But since you have gone a different route I hope you can figure out the best possible way that will help you earn money while ensuring a healthy growth of the community..
Title: Re: How Many Symbiostock Images Will There Be By End of Year?
Post by: Leo Blanchette on August 22, 2013, 19:48
The premium upgrade is actually a plugin. I haven't gone a different route technically.

Actually the only way to benefit from the premium upgrade is to already be a professional seller. Other than that it would be a useless perk. In the meantime I'll continue to refine it and think about things.
Title: Re: How Many Symbiostock Images Will There Be By End of Year?
Post by: alberto on August 22, 2013, 19:59
You should monetize your effort Leo. Maybe you can offer to the old members that run a symbiostock website from the early days and helped you to test how it work, a good discount or for free some plugin. Other like me can buy with no worries the needed plugins; in wordpress we must pay for a lot of good plugin and it's fine I think.
Title: Re: How Many Symbiostock Images Will There Be By End of Year?
Post by: marthamarks on August 22, 2013, 20:57
I'm with Alberto. Fine with whatever you choose to do, Leo. I will gladly pay for a plugin, but if it's "free" I'll make a respectable donation.

We all want you to gain somehow from all the effort you've expended and the great product you've provided us.
Title: Re: How Many Symbiostock Images Will There Be By End of Year?
Post by: Toon Vectors on August 22, 2013, 21:24
In the end, I still need a way to profit.

I will freely admit that I haven't fully thought through all the implications of this idea, so it might be a bit half-baked but here goes....

Title: Re: How Many Symbiostock Images Will There Be By End of Year?
Post by: cascoly on August 23, 2013, 00:44
a lot of that is done already -- having info on referring sites, etc, but beyond that I think it's a bad idea - the whole concept is SYMBIOstock --> working together.  the last thing we need is making judgments and posting names of sites that don't do things the way some other folks think they should

and once the system gets going, site owners aren't going to want to keep track of payments to dozens of different paypal accounts;  also, while there are global search engines for symbio, it's never been the intent for these to police the network

steve
Title: Re: How Many Symbiostock Images Will There Be By End of Year?
Post by: jsfoto on August 23, 2013, 00:47
You should monetize your effort Leo. Maybe you can offer to the old members that run a symbiostock website from the early days and helped you to test how it work, a good discount or for free some plugin. Other like me can buy with no worries the needed plugins; in wordpress we must pay for a lot of good plugin and it's fine I think.

I'm with alberto, too. You have invested so much time and effort and should receive more than our thankfulness. I understand that you do not want symbiostock sites being devided in those who can afford it and those who can't. But if it's a plugin as you said anybody can start a well working site for free and decide later whether to purchase the plugin or not.
Title: Re: How Many Symbiostock Images Will There Be By End of Year?
Post by: Imagenomad on August 23, 2013, 03:04
I'd be more than happy to pay. Heck, I've been expecting to pay for the update and I'm surprised to see "free" being considered.
Title: Re: How Many Symbiostock Images Will There Be By End of Year?
Post by: cidepix on August 23, 2013, 03:59
The premium upgrade is actually a plugin. I haven't gone a different route technically.

Actually the only way to benefit from the premium upgrade is to already be a professional seller. Other than that it would be a useless perk. In the meantime I'll continue to refine it and think about things.

Leo,  if it's a plugin and it won't effect the way premium and regular sites connect,  then charging for the plugin should not be an issue..
Title: Re: How Many Symbiostock Images Will There Be By End of Year?
Post by: Ron on August 23, 2013, 05:06
If its an upgrade plugin, 75 dollar might be a bit steep. I am more than happy to purchase the plugin for say 50 dollar. I was thinking of donating that amount anyways if it was going to be free.
Title: Re: How Many Symbiostock Images Will There Be By End of Year?
Post by: Ron on August 23, 2013, 05:07
To get back on topic. We are growing with a rate of 15,000 images per month. Give or take a few. If we are at 100 now, I'd say we'd be around 150,000 come the new year.
Title: Re: How Many Symbiostock Images Will There Be By End of Year?
Post by: cidepix on August 23, 2013, 07:08
To get back on topic. We are growing with a rate of 15,000 images per month. Give or take a few. If we are at 100 now, I'd say we'd be around 150,000 come the new year.


you are forgetting the snowball effect..

it's always smaller in the beginning and as it rolls on snow it quickly becomes HUGE :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowball_effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowball_effect)
Title: Re: How Many Symbiostock Images Will There Be By End of Year?
Post by: LesPalenik on August 23, 2013, 08:13
To get back on topic. We are growing with a rate of 15,000 images per month. Give or take a few. If we are at 100 now, I'd say we'd be around 150,000 come the new year.
Actually, in July we added 20,000 images. In August, it should be well over 20,000.
This compares with 65,000 images in the previous 5 months, so the snowball effect is already happening. 250,000 images by year end is a very good possibility.

 
Title: Re: How Many Symbiostock Images Will There Be By End of Year?
Post by: DonLand on August 23, 2013, 08:25
If its an upgrade plugin, 75 dollar might be a bit steep. I am more than happy to purchase the plugin for say 50 dollar. I was thinking of donating that amount anyways if it was going to be free.

I agree, 75 seems too much but you need to be rewarded for your efforts. Of course non of us have the right to tell you what to do or charge but to me somewhere around $50 seems about right. Since it is a plug in having the premium option is great for those that want it. At $50 if this takes off you'll be able to quit your daytime job  ;)
Title: Re: How Many Symbiostock Images Will There Be By End of Year?
Post by: cthoman on August 23, 2013, 08:27
and once the system gets going, site owners aren't going to want to keep track of payments to dozens of different paypal accounts;  also, while there are global search engines for symbio, it's never been the intent for these to police the network

I have an affiliate program for my site. I was worried about having to pay a bunch of affiliates or record taxes for them, but I always thought of it as a good problem to have. Unfortunately, I don't have that problem because my affiliates aren't generating sales.

If anybody wants 20%, feel free to sign up. I still want that problem.  ;D
Title: Re: How Many Symbiostock Images Will There Be By End of Year?
Post by: Ron on August 23, 2013, 08:28
I am super excited guys... things start to come together... stock became fun again. Lets keep the buzz going.
Title: Re: How Many Symbiostock Images Will There Be By End of Year?
Post by: ShazamImages on August 23, 2013, 08:35
...stock became fun again...

+1
Title: Re: How Many Symbiostock Images Will There Be By End of Year?
Post by: ernstsg on August 23, 2013, 18:54
... stock became fun again.

+2