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travelwitness

« on: July 15, 2013, 06:41 »
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Just out of interest is there anyone out there considering Symbiostock but is holding back?

If you are hesitant - what would persuade you to start using Symbiostock?


« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2013, 07:09 »
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I am not an expert for web, codes etc. Maybe it's not to hard, but I don't have much time to learn...
So I am waiting complete optimization and excellent tutorial which can explain literally everything, step by step...
It's too experimental for me, because I have no will to learn about web....
« Last Edit: July 15, 2013, 14:43 by borg »

« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2013, 07:10 »
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Its actually a lot more easier now than a few weeks back. Its pretty easy on bluehost.

Shelma1

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« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2013, 07:17 »
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Seems too time-consuming and complicated.

travelwitness

« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2013, 07:27 »
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Seems too time-consuming and complicated.

Would a simple step by step guide help you consider?

You have a fantastic portfolio by the way :-)

« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2013, 07:31 »
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Good reasons...if you read this forum, you can see the work and effort that many people ( especially Leo) put in.... to reach the point were I think it would be much easier to get up and running now

travelwitness

« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2013, 07:35 »
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It is actually only a 2 step process.

http://www.symbioguides.com/section/video-tutorials/

I think all the threads leading through the development stages give the impression its a lot more complicated than it actually is.

« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2013, 08:00 »
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It's very confusing, there are so many Symbiostock threads that I don't know where to find the basic information that I need to get started. Some links would help.

« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2013, 08:04 »
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I'm useless with computers and I've managed to do it.
Amanda's knowledge site is excellent!

« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2013, 08:11 »
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I think I know why traditional stock shooters are very hesitant even though they'd love to have a network powered sales channel with 100% revenue.

  • Symbiostock appearance/marketing is very "microstocky". It's not only that MSG is hosting the SYS support forum but also the hidden pointers (like the meta title of symbiostock.com, the mentioning of "Royalty Free" only etc). To outsiders it looks like Symbiostock is a 'microstock only' product.
  • The lack of RM and Editorial Only functions. This is a very big deal to traditional shooters. Many of them supply much more RM than RF material.
  • The fear that they have to "compete" with microstock shooters. Which is wrong because this competition is very present anyway. Picture buyers know that microstock exists, even if macrostock contributors try to stay in their own closed orbit.

EmberMike

« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2013, 08:13 »
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It's very confusing, there are so many Symbiostock threads that I don't know where to find the basic information that I need to get started. Some links would help.

I agree.

I started my Symbiostock site just a couple of weeks ago and I had a hard time finding some of the basic information I needed to get started. And I'm experienced in WordPress site builds and I still had a bit of trouble finding things. There is just so much discussion happening on the forum, it's hard to dig through it all.

That said, there seem to be some more centralized sites in the works that house some of the basic start-up information now, so hopefully going forward it becomes easier for people to quickly find the info they need.

I should also say that the info I needed was more to do with customizations to the Symbiostock theme, but in terms of just getting up and running with a basic Symbiostock installation, it is pretty easy. You really need to just set up a website and install WordPress, for which there are tons of tutorials on the web already. After that it's just a matter of installing the Symbiostock theme (which is essentially the same as installing any theme in WordPress), setting a few preferences, pricing settings, etc., and then uploading images.

« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2013, 08:16 »
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I don't want to start my own (mainly due to laziness), still waiting for an open symbio site for contributors in general :)

« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2013, 08:17 »
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Well, I wanted to, but it said that the host is not free. At the moment I'm not making enough money to pay for something that might not get my money back. I'll wait until my portfolio grows.

« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2013, 08:22 »
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Well, I wanted to, but it said that the host is not free. At the moment I'm not making enough money to pay for something that might not get my money back. I'll wait until my portfolio grows.

you can charge hosting :)

« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2013, 08:22 »
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I don't want to start my own (mainly due to laziness), still waiting for an open symbio site for contributors in general :)

Not sure how that would happen - unless (brainwave)  I set up a subdomain for you and take 75% of all your earnings  ;D ;)

« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2013, 08:23 »
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It's very confusing, there are so many Symbiostock threads that I don't know where to find the basic information that I need to get started. Some links would help.

Yep.  It honestly just looks like way to much work right now to figure out how to modify, customize, upload, etc.   And I don't want to upload, and change data, only to find the whole things changes and I have to one-by-one something again.

« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2013, 08:24 »
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I don't want to start my own (mainly due to laziness), still waiting for an open symbio site for contributors in general :)

Not sure how that would happen - unless (brainwave)  I set up a subdomain for you and take 75% of all your earnings  ;D ;)

ahahahah good one I will give you 10% :D

« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2013, 08:32 »
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I really want to join. But it's definitely too complicated for me (i have no idea whatsoever about coding and dont have time to learn now) and i am nervous every time something does not work. I have a site with Photoshelter and am happy with it. I would be ready to pay the same  monthly subscription (without the sale commission bit) to have another site with Symbiostock if one day Leo can offer some service similar to that. I dont really need all the features that Photoshelter offer, but i need someone to take care of the coding part and  take care of the maintenance and bugs.

« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2013, 08:51 »
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It's very confusing, there are so many Symbiostock threads that I don't know where to find the basic information that I need to get started. Some links would help.

Yep.  It honestly just looks like way to much work right now to figure out how to modify, customize, upload, etc.   And I don't want to upload, and change data, only to find the whole things changes and I have to one-by-one something again.

Right now Batch editing is the biggest PITA "non-feature" of Symbiostock. I am sure someone will have a plug-in for this soon.

If your images are all similar in pricing structure and content rating, then this isn't a big issues.  You set you presets at the beginning and they all are all the same.  The time consuming part is if you want to go back and edit a batch.

Once the information is there there isn't a need to go in and change it.

« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2013, 08:58 »
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I'm intrigued by Symbiostock, but I have yet to hear of anyone seeing many sales from it.

Yes, there's the occasional "I got my first sale!" but it's going to take more than the occasional sale, or even the daily sale, to motivate me to invest the time in this.

Still, I applaud Leo for his efforts and for everyone else who has jumped in to test the waters for the rest of us.  I really want to see you succeed, and I'll gladly join you if and when your efforts prove fruitful.

« Reply #20 on: July 15, 2013, 09:16 »
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I already have a site, so I've been hesitant to take the time out to start a second one.

marthamarks

« Reply #21 on: July 15, 2013, 09:18 »
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It's very confusing, there are so many Symbiostock threads that I don't know where to find the basic information that I need to get started. Some links would help.

Yep.  It honestly just looks like way to much work right now to figure out how to modify, customize, upload, etc.   And I don't want to upload, and change data, only to find the whole things changes and I have to one-by-one something again.

I'm right in the middle of the process right now. Have figured out a lot of things, including with the help of many in this group, but yes, the multitude of Forum threads and even the various tutorials available can be confusing. As I said elsewhere, this is my fourth WP website developed from scratch, so I thought it would be easier than it has been.

At this point, I've got the main site established and can upload images, get them on their own pages, etc. My challenge right now is to make a transparent watermark. I've designed my own simple WM and have been trying to use it, but it completely blocks the image. Today's project is to figure out how to make the background transparent. I spent yesterday afternoon looking at how-to videos and instructions. Should have figured it out by now but went to bed last night with the problem unresolved.

One thing I know (and like!) about this is: once I've figured it all out and have the site working well, it's mine. It will always be mine and nobody can tell me what will or will not be allowed on the site. That feels good.

Leo has done a phenomenal job on the overall SYS, and Amanda's Clean Theme works well with it. I'm happy with the product.

« Reply #22 on: July 15, 2013, 09:22 »
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Today's project is to figure out how to make the background transparent. I spent yesterday afternoon looking at how-to videos and instructions. Should have figured it out by now but went to bed last night with the problem unresolved.


If you need help with your watermark, send me a PM to exchange email addresses. This way you can send me your design or logo and I'll create the watermark for you. It's a matter of minutes for me.

« Reply #23 on: July 15, 2013, 09:22 »
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Time is the only thing holding me back.

I am a multimedia developer so working with it and customizing wouldn't be a big deal for me, but I don't have the time at the moment to commit. I'd imagine I'd have to put a considerable amount of time into it upfront. Probably worth it, but still no time available

« Reply #24 on: July 15, 2013, 09:39 »
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I really want to join. But it's definitely too complicated for me (i have no idea whatsoever about coding and dont have time to learn now) and i am nervous every time something does not work. I have a site with Photoshelter and am happy with it. I would be ready to pay the same  monthly subscription (without the sale commission bit) to have another site with Symbiostock if one day Leo can offer some service similar to that. I dont really need all the features that Photoshelter offer, but i need someone to take care of the coding part and  take care of the maintenance and bugs.


Leo does provide this service. He can take care of getting your site up and running for you for a fee, so you dont need to know coding


 

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