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« Reply #25 on: August 02, 2013, 09:46 »
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So I don't think that you can just copy over the MySQL database. 

Why not? That's what I was hoping, importing the tables into the new MySQL and then changing the access information in the wp-config.php. Well, and of course copying all files and folders to the new host.

OK, I thought about this a little more.  My initial thoughts are as follows:

When you install a theme or plugin, entries get stored in the MySQL database with unique IDs.  Those IDs are most likely going to be different between the old server (that you are moving away from) and the new server (that you are moving to).

So what I would think is that you would need to install all of the themes, plugins, etc., then wipe out certain tables (such as WP_POSTS, WP_POSTMETA, WP_OPTIONS, WP_LINKS, WP_COMMENTS, WP_COMMENTMETA, WP_TERMS, WP_TERM_RELATIONSHIPS, and WP_TERM_TAXONOMY), and then import those same tables from the old server to the new server.

I'm not sure what to do with WP_USERS and WP_USERMETA at this time, because if you wipe that one out, then you might not be able to log in!  You probably would need to make sure that the administrator was setup the exact same way between the two instances.

Then you would need to copy all of the image files over (thumbnails, watermarked version, and full size), in addition to the media files.

Anyway, that is my first draft.  I'm sure that it would need some modifications.



« Reply #26 on: August 02, 2013, 09:54 »
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Thanks, although I kind of disagree.

When you duplicate the entire database (all tables, all fields and values) - everything should work. Of course after altering the wp-config.php with the new DB name, user and password.
I mean MySQL is a standard, it should work wherever it is supported.

But again, I'm no expert at this.

Ron

« Reply #27 on: August 02, 2013, 10:25 »
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Its down again

« Reply #28 on: August 02, 2013, 10:28 »
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Its down again

Yes. I'm already getting the response from Google webmaster tools:

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When we tested a sample of the URLs from your Sitemap, we found that some URLs were not accessible to Googlebot due to an HTTP status error. All accessible URLs will still be submitted.

« Reply #29 on: August 02, 2013, 10:28 »
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Appears as though it has been down for the better part of the last several hours. Unfortunately I signed a 3 year agreement with them when I started. I totally regret it right now, and I am sure they won't offer a refund. Oh well, it's not like I was going to get a sale today or anything. I honestly did much better with Warmpicture, even without the SEO advantages of SY.  ::)

« Reply #30 on: August 02, 2013, 10:32 »
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I made a full backup of Symbio site using only the Wordpress Export / Import tools.
Although I had one problem with image categories, yet I was doing a local installation so it might be a reason. You may read about it there if you like http://www.phototric.com/2013/05/symbiostock.html#backup_symbiostock

I'd suggest to try this method (and any other backup solution) when bluehost will be back. With computers & data one method is never enough

« Reply #31 on: August 02, 2013, 10:34 »
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So I don't think that you can just copy over the MySQL database. 

Why not? That's what I was hoping, importing the tables into the new MySQL and then changing the access information in the wp-config.php. Well, and of course copying all files and folders to the new host.

Did you run into any problems with the installation routine of WP and SYS at GoDaddy?

This is the simplest way to move from one host to another with the least amount of work.  I've done this many times and can help out with any questions or issues.

« Reply #32 on: August 02, 2013, 10:38 »
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So I don't think that you can just copy over the MySQL database. 

Why not? That's what I was hoping, importing the tables into the new MySQL and then changing the access information in the wp-config.php. Well, and of course copying all files and folders to the new host.

Did you run into any problems with the installation routine of WP and SYS at GoDaddy?

This is the simplest way to move from one host to another with the least amount of work.  I've done this many times and can help out with any questions or issues.

Thanks, Chris. I'm sure I'll take you up on that offer when I try to move it.


« Reply #33 on: August 02, 2013, 10:42 »
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Thank you for reporting your experience, I was leaning heavily toward bluehost that and a little more digging has put me off.

http://wordpress.org/support/topic/bluehost-has-the-worst-wordpress-service-do-not-use-bluehost

« Reply #34 on: August 02, 2013, 10:48 »
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Thank you for reporting your experience, I was leaning heavily toward bluehost that and a little more digging has put me off.

http://wordpress.org/support/topic/bluehost-has-the-worst-wordpress-service-do-not-use-bluehost


Oh boy, I just took a look at godaddy and it seems to be no better than BH: http://www.whoishostingthis.com/hosting-reviews/go-daddy/

« Reply #35 on: August 02, 2013, 11:25 »
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Thank you for reporting your experience, I was leaning heavily toward bluehost that and a little more digging has put me off.

http://wordpress.org/support/topic/bluehost-has-the-worst-wordpress-service-do-not-use-bluehost


Oh boy, I just took a look at godaddy and it seems to be no better than BH: http://www.whoishostingthis.com/hosting-reviews/go-daddy/


Bluehost still seems to be down and thanks for the info, this is one reason I have been holding off, I do not have time to deal with the kinks right now and I do appreciate the feedback from those here willing to share their experience.   

http://www.isitdownrightnow.com/bluehost.com.html

« Reply #36 on: August 02, 2013, 11:32 »
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I've been with all-inkl.com (German company) for more than 12 years now (hosting my other websites) and they are the most reliable host one can imagine. Unfortunately I din't get the Symbiostock theme installed because all-inkl.com restricts php scripts from creating folders and files in the web root.
Other than that they really are amazingly reliable and fast.

I'll try to "move" the WP SYS site from BH to all-inkl.com via MySQL/FTP copy once the Bluehost control panel can be reached again. I'll keep you guys posted.

EmberMike

« Reply #37 on: August 02, 2013, 11:38 »
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Response from BH support:

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Hello,

We certainly apologize for the inconvenience, there is currently an issue with the server itself. Our administrators are working to resolve the issue as soon as possible. This may be a server issue, or it may be an issue caused by another user hosted on the server. Because you are in a shared hosting environment, this means that any user on any server can potentially cause issues with the server itself. These issues can effect performance for other users on the same server. If this is indeed the cause, we work to find these users that are causing the problems and deactivate them. Our administrators work to resolve these issues as they are brought to our attention, please bear with us, we appreciate your patience.


How did we do? Please help us improve the support that we offer you
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Thank you,
Susan

That is total B.S. I have multiple sites on HostMonster and I know they're not all on the same servers, and yet they're all still down. If it was an issue related to just one server and it affected just the sites on that server, this would be a far more limited outage.

The one thing I hate more than downtime is straight-up lies about what is causing the downtime.

Ron

« Reply #38 on: August 02, 2013, 11:41 »
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We are not the only people complaining. LOL

https://www.facebook.com/bluehost?fref=ts

There FB page is getting flooded with angry users.

« Reply #39 on: August 02, 2013, 11:50 »
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« Reply #40 on: August 02, 2013, 11:55 »
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Yep, i have been unable to get to FB pages all morning.


Blue host has been having issues with their servers for weeks now. Unless they got hacked, today is nothing new.

« Reply #41 on: August 02, 2013, 12:14 »
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So far, I'm very happy that I went with GoDaddy.  They haven't been down once that I know of (and I have been constantly working on the website in some form or fashion for a few weeks).

I've had websites consistently on Godaddy for over ten years and other than my current issue with getting imagick enabled I've never had any serious problems (downtime, slow, etc.).  I had considered moving to bluehost but there is probably no way that I would even consider that now.

« Reply #42 on: August 02, 2013, 12:23 »
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So I don't think that you can just copy over the MySQL database. 

Why not? That's what I was hoping, importing the tables into the new MySQL and then changing the access information in the wp-config.php. Well, and of course copying all files and folders to the new host.

Did you run into any problems with the installation routine of WP and SYS at GoDaddy?

I copied my Wordpress site and used a plugin called WordPress Importer to install the exported file. I think you still need to copy over all the images and some other things. If you have a local host MAMP or LAMP, you can probably experiment.

The local host probably is a good idea for Wordpress upgrade testing too.

« Reply #43 on: August 02, 2013, 12:26 »
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So I don't think that you can just copy over the MySQL database. 

Why not? That's what I was hoping, importing the tables into the new MySQL and then changing the access information in the wp-config.php. Well, and of course copying all files and folders to the new host.

Did you run into any problems with the installation routine of WP and SYS at GoDaddy?

I copied my Wordpress site and used a plugin called WordPress Importer to install the exported file. I think you still need to copy over all the images and some other things. If you have a local host MAMP or LAMP, you can probably experiment.

Which file are you talking about, the MySQL database file?
And how exactly did you do the move? Did your move include only WP or SYS as well?

« Reply #44 on: August 02, 2013, 12:41 »
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Which file are you talking about, the MySQL database file?
And how exactly did you do the move? Did your move include only WP or SYS as well?

It was just a blog (not Symbiostock). I think I just used the Tools > Export on the Wordpress Dashboard. I think I copied the MySQL database too, but I don't think I ended up using that. Then, just copied my image folders and themes. I don't remember all the details, but it wasn't too complicated. I'd recommend testing it out locally first though.

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« Reply #45 on: August 02, 2013, 12:44 »
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OK, I've done some more thinking about how to move a Symbiostock store from one host to another and it does seem pretty easy.

It seems that you basically need to:
  • shutdown your website (so you don't get any registrations or sales while your moving)
  • copy your entire MySQL database from the old host to the new host
  • zip and copy the entire webroot from your old host to the new host (this will include all of the theme code, plugin code, images, etc)
  • change the wp-config.php in the webroot of your new host, and that should do it.

Thanks to everyone for their help in this.  I'm sure that it will come in handy at some point.

« Reply #46 on: August 02, 2013, 13:07 »
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my justhost site is working fine -- but when I click to see 'extended network' it's EXTREMELY slow in grabbing the avatars for at least 40 sites

LEO - any thoughts about storing the avatar logos in the seeds folder?

« Reply #47 on: August 02, 2013, 13:11 »
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My website is up but neither the Bluehost control panel nor the FTP server can be accessed so far.

« Reply #48 on: August 02, 2013, 13:33 »
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My website is up but neither the Bluehost control panel nor the FTP server can be accessed so far.

Same here ... I really hope this situation is an exception ...

Leo Blanchette

« Reply #49 on: August 02, 2013, 13:37 »
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Mine is down.


 

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