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« Reply #25 on: April 18, 2013, 22:55 »
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Funny - I have a pretty stark rule not to dictate people's choices.

But what I can do is have a network average price (on each size) on the main site which people can see if you like. Maybe that might  have more negative effects than positive. In any case, personal choice is just that. Thats why the tool was made.

Hey, more info can't hurt. And I really appreciate that your are not "to dictate people's choices." One day, I hope, this will prove advantageous for SY (and I am talking sales here).


RacePhoto

« Reply #26 on: April 19, 2013, 11:06 »
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When you put it that way, yes good information would be what are other people asking for their material. That way we could stay in line with market norms.

Part I see as potentially self defeating. Someone will have the dumb idea, that lower price means more sales, and start undercutting. The whole problem with Micro today is the "race to the bottom" who can sell for less and pay us the least, and still have good material for buyers.

I've seen it in the industry of manufacturing, we can all see it in many consumer retail outlets. Heck, do you know anyone who doesn't shop price in the Internet for more expensive items? Competition is fierce! Might as well admit, we are included in that world marketplace and the image supply competition. Price isn't the only determination of why someone buys something.

Quality beats price for most discerning buyers. People selling cons, crap and junk, will sell on price alone. In my case, the prices I plan on setting for the SY site will be based on the end user value, not my cost, or anyone else's prices. I'm going to be selling less artistic, less creative than most of you. Hopefully functional, simple and useful products.

What I'm getting at is this. Price by size alone, doesn't always apply. Neither does, a market survey of asking prices, when there are different standards, subjects and product creation expenses.

But knowing the competing market and prices is still a good bit of knowledge. More info, I agree.



Hey, more info can't hurt. And I really appreciate that your are not "to dictate people's choices." One day, I hope, this will prove advantageous for SY (and I am talking sales here).

« Reply #27 on: May 17, 2013, 04:57 »
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I'm in the same boat. Most of my stuff is hard to find. My issue will be finding suitable sites to link to that have things in common.

Doesn't it make more sense to network with people who have images which are different than yours? I shoot a lot of sports, action, and food photography. I rarely shoot People/Lifestyle, or Industrial. I want to network with people who fill niches which I don't have much of, so that searchers are finding a better mix of images between myself and the network.

« Reply #28 on: May 17, 2013, 05:39 »
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As people start to network up with each other, I have one little fear that I thought I would get others opinions on.

The beauty of selling direct is we set our own prices. The fear of selling direct is that we set our own prices...

Eg: buyer comes to my site, sees a nice isolated apple, thinks 'yep, $20 for large size, thats what I'd pay at iStock, if not more' adds it to cart. Then he notices one of my network partners also has a nice isolated apple. Checks that one out, virtually same image, but it only costs $5 for the large, $1 for small.

Why on earth will he buy my one?

I guess what Im saying is I think we need to look out for eachother, not just ourselves when we choose our pricing, so that we don't go too low. Or there will be a lot of networked partners dropped and hurt feelings etc etc. I know I will be highly reluctant to add a network partner if I see their pricing is way too low.

What do you all think?

This is what they call free market capitalism. The market will sort this out over some time. Participate / influence the system by adjusting your prices, and see how it works out for you...

« Reply #29 on: May 17, 2013, 06:00 »
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After I enable Paypal I am going for prices higher than on microstock, because I don't want to kill my stock sites, would be silly. And i really don't care about other people prices.
Time will show what should I do next

« Reply #30 on: May 17, 2013, 08:01 »
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I'm in the same boat. Most of my stuff is hard to find. My issue will be finding suitable sites to link to that have things in common.

Doesn't it make more sense to network with people who have images which are different than yours? I shoot a lot of sports, action, and food photography. I rarely shoot People/Lifestyle, or Industrial. I want to network with people who fill niches which I don't have much of, so that searchers are finding a better mix of images between myself and the network.

This will be one of the interesting finding of the network as it develops.  What images will people buy from SY and what images will people buy from the regular agencies.  My "hunch" is that specialized images such as farbled's minerals might do better then general lifestyle images.

« Reply #31 on: May 17, 2013, 08:16 »
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I have two price categories for my images: RF premium for images which are not on microstock agencies but on trad agencies and RF microstock for the images which are on microstock.
I have a higher price for panoramic pictures as well

« Reply #32 on: May 17, 2013, 16:58 »
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I'm in the same boat. Most of my stuff is hard to find. My issue will be finding suitable sites to link to that have things in common.

Doesn't it make more sense to network with people who have images which are different than yours? I shoot a lot of sports, action, and food photography. I rarely shoot People/Lifestyle, or Industrial. I want to network with people who fill niches which I don't have much of, so that searchers are finding a better mix of images between myself and the network.

that was my first thought, but it really only works when people come to your site looking for something you don't have, which isn't going to be the case if traffic is mostly thru search engines.  so if someone doesn't find what they like on your site, they're more likely to find it on a similar site, since they wont be interested in the topics you don't cover.  the aim should be to keep buyers in the network as long as possible

« Reply #33 on: May 17, 2013, 17:26 »
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Network search is using [keywords], so the connected sites should have some amount of similar images, otherwise the search will just show the blank page after few seconds of waiting

farbled

« Reply #34 on: May 17, 2013, 20:17 »
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I've been thinking and rethinking about who and how to network with my site. There's so many different ways to look at it. Luckily, I can change or add or take away as needed or after seeing what works and what doesn't. Ultimately, if I can find industrial sites or other niche sites (like jewelry or macro perhaps) then that would work for me. Otherwise, I think any quality portfolio would be good to link to.

One of the best things about self management is that nothing has to be carved in stone thanks to Leo and his wonderful theme. I have no doubt my network settings will change more than my pricing over time. :)

« Reply #35 on: May 17, 2013, 22:57 »
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I'm in the same boat. Most of my stuff is hard to find. My issue will be finding suitable sites to link to that have things in common.

Doesn't it make more sense to network with people who have images which are different than yours? I shoot a lot of sports, action, and food photography. I rarely shoot People/Lifestyle, or Industrial. I want to network with people who fill niches which I don't have much of, so that searchers are finding a better mix of images between myself and the network.

that was my first thought, but it really only works when people come to your site looking for something you don't have, which isn't going to be the case if traffic is mostly thru search engines.  so if someone doesn't find what they like on your site, they're more likely to find it on a similar site, since they wont be interested in the topics you don't cover.  the aim should be to keep buyers in the network as long as possible

My initial linking has been based on selecting ports with similar themes but a different approach.  I shoot a lot of food but have no people in my portfolio.  I think a good match would be someone who shoots food but has lots of options with people eating, preparing food, etc.  I've selected a couple of sites with food shots from regions outside the US too.  I have a few isolations of food but not many so that would be another complimentary site. 

If someone searches for Fresh Squeezed Orange Juice they get my series of oranges, fresh juice and old-fashioned glass juicer but hopefully would find other options such as a mother and daughter with a contemporary juicer in a kitchen, a marketplace in South America with oranges, isolations of oranges and glasses of juice and so on, giving the buyer a wide range of related images.

Leo Blanchette

« Reply #36 on: May 17, 2013, 23:05 »
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I shoot a lot of food but have no people in my portfolio.  I think a good match would be someone who shoots food but has lots of options with people eating, preparing food, etc.

Do you actually make the food? I'll take some - even if someone has to take a picture of me eating! I love the food shots the best btw.

« Reply #37 on: May 17, 2013, 23:23 »
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I shoot a lot of food but have no people in my portfolio.  I think a good match would be someone who shoots food but has lots of options with people eating, preparing food, etc.

Do you actually make the food? I'll take some - even if someone has to take a picture of me eating! I love the food shots the best btw.

 :) Thanks!  We could work out a deal - fly me to Hawaii and I'll cook and take pics of you eating. :)  I didn't bake the bread but that is on my list of things I'd like to tackle.   I started with arranged ingredients but I've been trying to branch out more into prepared foods like the shrimp cocktail and guacamole shots.

« Reply #38 on: May 18, 2013, 01:08 »
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I shoot a lot of food but have no people in my portfolio.  I think a good match would be someone who shoots food but has lots of options with people eating, preparing food, etc.


Do you actually make the food? I'll take some - even if someone has to take a picture of me eating! I love the food shots the best btw.


 :) Thanks!  We could work out a deal - fly me to Hawaii and I'll cook and take pics of you eating. :)  I didn't bake the bread but that is on my list of things I'd like to tackle.   I started with arranged ingredients but I've been trying to branch out more into prepared foods like the shrimp cocktail and guacamole shots.


eventually i'm planning to get my sym site linked to non-photo areas of my other websites, eg my recipe sites:

http://cascoly.hubpages.com/hub/Best-Recipes-from-Around-the-World
and  http://cascoly.com/trav/recipes.asp

if you (or other food photographers) want to add additional links that would be easy to do

« Last Edit: May 18, 2013, 14:49 by cascoly »

« Reply #39 on: May 18, 2013, 05:38 »
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I make my own bread, can I come out to Hawaii as well please ?


 

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