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Title: Before You Upload - How to Ensure Sales
Post by: Leo Blanchette on March 22, 2013, 23:04
Its worth posting this before you deploy your sites and put up your images:

Lets say you upload to six or seven agencies. They extract meta-data from your images, and what you have is this:

somesite.com/your-identical-sounding-image-which-competes-with-itself/

somesiteother.com/your-identical-sounding-image-which-competes-with-itself/

superquickstockpics.com/your-identical-sounding-image-which-competes-with-itself.php


yet-another-agency.com/images/your-identical-sounding-image-which-competes-with-itself.html

...You get the picture. Google sees these as relatively identical, and will often favor the one that got uploaded to first, or perhaps use some other smaller factors in giving search weight.

So here are some pointers to give yourself an immediate advantage:

- Although its easy to upload hundreds of images and immediately publish them, save them to drafts instead. Change their verbage, then publish.

- Do what you can to make each image unique from its counterparts found on the web, especially in the URL and title.

- Give a little more description keeping in mind which keywords/phrases you wish to optimize for. Even a few paragraphs if you think the image is worth it, and is a proven seller. Mark one or two important keywords/phrases in bold.

-Give your site more than routine attention as just another site to upload to. Consider as your garden, your home base, and something to pay attention to. Keep it unique as much as possible in terms of content. If you give your site the personal attention early on, you will find it becomes a strong earner for you within a year.

-Post random and interesting blogs on things your customers might enjoy, even silly stuff. It keeps your site getting spidered.

-If you happen to specialize in a particular area of imaging, be sure to name your site after it.

To this day, the majority of my traffic comes from my earliest images where I went the extra mile to optimize for keywords.

There is volumes to be said, but unique content is most important. I've been giving a lot of attention to SEO and meaningful semantic markup in the Symbiostock theme, so any added effort you give (especially on the image pages) will only help.

Please use this SEO board as much as you can. Its your main advantage in going independent.


Title: Re: Before You Upload - How to Ensure Sales
Post by: Travelling-light on March 23, 2013, 00:28
Thanks Leo for all your effort, and for this interesting post which gives lots of food for thought.
Title: Re: Before You Upload - How to Ensure Sales
Post by: farbled on March 23, 2013, 10:51
I never would have thought of that. Great advice.
Title: Re: Before You Upload - How to Ensure Sales
Post by: daveh900 on March 28, 2013, 09:07
Not sure what impact it will have, but I have taken some of my vector designs and reconfigured them a bit (colors, orientation, sizes) to upload to my SymbioStock site. Hopefully, along with Leo's fantastic suggestions above, some of my content will appear in Google image search and direct people to my site instead of the several stock agency sites that already have my content uploaded.
Title: Re: Before You Upload - How to Ensure Sales
Post by: steheap on March 29, 2013, 14:53
I can't test this myself as image processing isnt working yet for me, but does the new file name of the image (which comes from the title I understand) also have "stock-photo" added to it? I notice that most of the images from the agencies have "stock-photo-your-image-title-here.jpg"

Should I add that manually?

Steve
Title: Re: Before You Upload - How to Ensure Sales
Post by: daveh900 on March 29, 2013, 15:59
I can't test this myself as image processing isnt working yet for me, but does the new file name of the image (which comes from the title I understand) also have "stock-photo" added to it? I notice that most of the images from the agencies have "stock-photo-your-image-title-here.jpg"

Should I add that manually?

Steve

It appears that the image is renamed to a number and the words "royalty-free-content" are added to the preview file name.
Title: Re: Before You Upload - How to Ensure Sales
Post by: steheap on March 29, 2013, 16:26
I looked at your site - are you sure you clicked that option under Settings Permalinks to select Post name as the naming format for each post? I don't think the images should be named in the way they are on your site. If you mouse over the image on this site: http://www.photomining.com/q/?image=chalcopyrite-mineral-sample-with-gold-and-copper-with-pyrite (http://www.photomining.com/q/?image=chalcopyrite-mineral-sample-with-gold-and-copper-with-pyrite) you get the full title in the jpg name.

Steve
Title: Re: Before You Upload - How to Ensure Sales
Post by: farbled on March 29, 2013, 17:12
I looked at your site - are you sure you clicked that option under Settings Permalinks to select Post name as the naming format for each post? I don't think the images should be named in the way they are on your site. If you mouse over the image on this site: [url]http://www.photomining.com/q/?image=chalcopyrite-mineral-sample-with-gold-and-copper-with-pyrite[/url] ([url]http://www.photomining.com/q/?image=chalcopyrite-mineral-sample-with-gold-and-copper-with-pyrite[/url]) you get the full title in the jpg name.

Steve

I can't set the permalinks until my webhost changes a setting on their end. Otherwise it wipes out my entire website and I have to completely delete the entire wordpress installation. I'm working on look and feel for now. :)
Title: Re: Before You Upload - How to Ensure Sales
Post by: farbled on March 29, 2013, 18:04
I'm all fixed up and ready to network! -edit, Seriously though, who wants to share just to test things out?
Title: Re: Before You Upload - How to Ensure Sales
Post by: daveh900 on March 29, 2013, 23:38
I looked at your site - are you sure you clicked that option under Settings Permalinks to select Post name as the naming format for each post? I don't think the images should be named in the way they are on your site. If you mouse over the image on this site: [url]http://www.photomining.com/q/?image=chalcopyrite-mineral-sample-with-gold-and-copper-with-pyrite[/url] ([url]http://www.photomining.com/q/?image=chalcopyrite-mineral-sample-with-gold-and-copper-with-pyrite[/url]) you get the full title in the jpg name.

Steve


Screen shot below of my permalink settings.

Ugh, if this is wrong I have a feeling I have to start over.  :(
Title: Re: Before You Upload - How to Ensure Sales
Post by: Leo Blanchette on March 29, 2013, 23:41
Thats correct. The URL is a biggie in search relevance. The ?variable=value&somethingelse=whatever is baaad
Title: Re: Before You Upload - How to Ensure Sales
Post by: daveh900 on March 29, 2013, 23:48
Thats correct. The URL is a biggie in search relevance. The ?variable=value&somethingelse=whatever is baaad

Thanks Leo!
Title: Re: Before You Upload - How to Ensure Sales
Post by: steheap on March 30, 2013, 17:07
Is there a max number of characters that we can put in the title? And is "stock photos" a good choice to add into the title?

Steve
Title: Re: Before You Upload - How to Ensure Sales
Post by: Leo Blanchette on March 30, 2013, 19:50
Is there a max number of characters that we can put in the title? And is "stock photos" a good choice to add into the title?

Steve

I'm not sure about a max number of characters, but under 70/80 is good for seo. "Stock photo" is a very good thing to put in title if your looking for potential customers who put "stock photo" into their google search.
Title: Re: Before You Upload - How to Ensure Sales
Post by: Lizard on March 30, 2013, 19:56
Leo , may I ask a question , im sorry if it was answered somewhere ?

Im not clear how whole thing will function but a main question would be:

Is there going to be some kind of search engine which can search images trough all symbyostock sites or that's not achievable ?

Thanks
Title: Re: Before You Upload - How to Ensure Sales
Post by: Leo Blanchette on March 30, 2013, 20:27
There will be a few options which people might choose to pay for inclusion.

Title: Re: Before You Upload - How to Ensure Sales
Post by: MicrostockExp on April 08, 2013, 04:48
Google has started indexing my pictures, only small ones are visible so far with some pictures of my network as well

google image search:  site:aseanphotostock.com
Title: Re: Before You Upload - How to Ensure Sales
Post by: Leo Blanchette on April 08, 2013, 04:53
Thats awesome. People should announce their sales when they start happening.
Title: Re: Before You Upload - How to Ensure Sales
Post by: farbled on April 08, 2013, 10:10
Thats awesome. People should announce their sales when they start happening.

I just need a few hundred more on my rare earth site before I start contacting the buyers I have in mind. :)

(the great part of niche photography is you can find your audience pretty easily)
Title: Re: Before You Upload - How to Ensure Sales
Post by: Ron on July 06, 2013, 04:23
Bump - good post Leo, thanks. I understand a lot more of this now.
Title: Re: Before You Upload - How to Ensure Sales
Post by: cascoly on July 06, 2013, 13:44
Leo , may I ask a question , im sorry if it was answered somewhere ?

Im not clear how whole thing will function but a main question would be:

Is there going to be some kind of search engine which can search images trough all symbyostock sites or that's not achievable ?

Thanks


there are 2 so far:

http://symbiostock.info (http://symbiostock.info)
http://symbiostock.cascoly.com (http://symbiostock.cascoly.com)

each sym site produces xml files that can be harvested & collated into an external database
Title: Re: Before You Upload - How to Ensure Sales
Post by: Nikd90 on July 10, 2013, 00:27
Looks like 123rf is doing sth really good in SEO. For Most of the images search for my images in google, I first get result from 123rf and then rest of the agencies.

A related question: are the keywords that are populated with the image used only for image search within the site or are they picked up by google as well?
Title: Re: Before You Upload - How to Ensure Sales
Post by: steheap on July 10, 2013, 07:47
They are picked up by google, which is why it is important to have comprehensive (but not spam) keywords and also use compound keywords - such as "New york" rather than "new" and "york", neither of which are appropriate for a New York image. Google can properly read those, Symbiostock.info searches them and I'm sure we will get a fix to the in-site search soon.

Steve
Title: Re: Before You Upload - How to Ensure Sales
Post by: picture5469 on July 10, 2013, 07:58
Looks like 123rf is doing sth really good in SEO. For Most of the images search for my images in google, I first get result from 123rf and then rest of the agencies.

A related question: are the keywords that are populated with the image used only for image search within the site or are they picked up by google as well?

I think though that 123rf bury internal links into each image linking to similiar images on the site. This is one of the ways they increase their SEO
Title: Re: Before You Upload - How to Ensure Sales
Post by: elilena on July 10, 2013, 16:07
Ha! Only 2 days and 17 from my 24 uploaded images are indexed by Google! :D Great work, Leo!!!