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Title: Getting there - Google indexed images got a little bump
Post by: Ron on August 24, 2013, 16:41
68% indexed at this point... nice going. Almost there.

Where are you at?
Title: Re: Getting there - Google indexed images got a little bump
Post by: cathyslife on August 24, 2013, 16:50
A picture says it all.  :)
Title: Re: Getting there - Google indexed images got a little bump
Post by: Ron on August 24, 2013, 16:57
Thats cool. I have two image site maps, Yoast and SYS, SYS is at 68%, Yoast is at 45%
Title: Re: Getting there - Google indexed images got a little bump
Post by: Anita Potter on August 24, 2013, 17:03
Of my images only 28 of 550 have been indexed.  At least it's almost done indexing the site urls so maybe my images will start getting indexed more this week.

Course I also don't get the search query stats because I can't find my stuff going by what their stats say.
Title: Re: Getting there - Google indexed images got a little bump
Post by: Ron on August 24, 2013, 17:20
I dont think site URLs have anything to do with that low number. Must be something else.
Title: Re: Getting there - Google indexed images got a little bump
Post by: ShazamImages on August 24, 2013, 17:30
At least it's almost done indexing the site urls so maybe my images will start getting indexed more this week.

For some reason, site URLs get indexed much faster than images.
Title: Re: Getting there - Google indexed images got a little bump
Post by: CrackerClips on August 24, 2013, 17:53
This is where I stand at present but only added the image sitemap on Aug 5.  Getting images indexed in drips and drabs.  I'm impatient right now because things are just getting started but I've got a lot more images to add so I'll just worry about that for the time being  ;D
Title: Re: Getting there - Google indexed images got a little bump
Post by: cascoly on August 25, 2013, 01:29
it's easier to get urls indexed than it is images

with 3400 images I have 74% indexed with symbio sitemap, and 58% with yoast, after starting around 25% for both at start of july
Title: Re: Getting there - Google indexed images got a little bump
Post by: marthamarks on August 25, 2013, 02:01
it's easier to get urls indexed than it is images

with 3400 images I have 74% indexed with symbio sitemap, and 58% with yoast, after starting around 25% for both at start of july

Steve, did you submit both Leo's SYS sitemap and also Yoast's? Is there a reason for submitting both?
Title: Re: Getting there - Google indexed images got a little bump
Post by: jsfoto on August 25, 2013, 02:34
As far as I understood Leo's plugin is focused on the images while Yoast covers the entire website.

My images are indexed almost completely while still two thirds of the urls are missing
Title: Re: Getting there - Google indexed images got a little bump
Post by: cathyslife on August 25, 2013, 05:37
As far as I understood Leo's plugin is focused on the images while Yoast covers the entire website.

My images are indexed almost completely while still two thirds of the urls are missing


Yep, thats how mine are too.
Title: Re: Getting there - Google indexed images got a little bump
Post by: quailrunphoto on August 25, 2013, 16:56
68% indexed at this point... nice going. Almost there.

Where are you at?

My indexing is not going so well for the pages, but the images are slow but coming along.  Not sure if I need to resubmit the site index again to change that.

Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Getting there - Google indexed images got a little bump
Post by: Ron on August 25, 2013, 17:03
Resubmitting wont hurt it.
Title: Re: Getting there - Google indexed images got a little bump
Post by: Nikd90 on August 25, 2013, 21:41
If I change the watermark would it impact my images that have already been indexed?
I want to have both white and black letters in my watermark
Title: Re: Getting there - Google indexed images got a little bump
Post by: marthamarks on August 25, 2013, 22:13
If I change the watermark would it impact my images that have already been indexed?
I want to have both white and black letters in my watermark

Good question! I'm aiming at the same thing and hope I can 1) figure out how to get both B&W into my wm, and 2) figure out how to reprocess once I've figured out #1.  :-[

I'll probably try the wm re-creation and reprocessing before submitting my sitemaps. Now that (hooray!!!) I'm almost done Yoasting my original 700 uploaded images. From this point on, it should all go more smoothly.
Title: Re: Getting there - Google indexed images got a little bump
Post by: cascoly on August 25, 2013, 22:23
it's easier to get urls indexed than it is images

with 3400 images I have 74% indexed with symbio sitemap, and 58% with yoast, after starting around 25% for both at start of july

Steve, did you submit both Leo's SYS sitemap and also Yoast's? Is there a reason for submitting both?

yes I submitted both -- yoast has some additional listings for categories, etc
Title: Re: Getting there - Google indexed images got a little bump
Post by: marthamarks on August 25, 2013, 23:04
it's easier to get urls indexed than it is images

with 3400 images I have 74% indexed with symbio sitemap, and 58% with yoast, after starting around 25% for both at start of july

Steve, did you submit both Leo's SYS sitemap and also Yoast's? Is there a reason for submitting both?

yes I submitted both -- yoast has some additional listings for categories, etc

Thanks for that info. I didn't know...  There's sooo much to learn!
Title: Re: Getting there - Google indexed images got a little bump
Post by: ShazamImages on August 26, 2013, 06:01
If I change the watermark would it impact my images that have already been indexed?

No.
Title: Re: Getting there - Google indexed images got a little bump
Post by: stockmarketer on August 26, 2013, 07:06
OK, so for people who have a lot of images indexed... how are the sales?

I've asked before, but is the work paying off yet?  Is the indexing leading to actual traffic?

I've been told that it requires patience... you have to wait for Google to get you properly indexed before the traffic and sales start flowing.  Anyone seeing signs that this is happening?
Title: Re: Getting there - Google indexed images got a little bump
Post by: Ron on August 26, 2013, 07:47
OK, so for people who have a lot of images indexed... how are the sales?

I've asked before, but is the work paying off yet?  Is the indexing leading to actual traffic?

I've been told that it requires patience... you have to wait for Google to get you properly indexed before the traffic and sales start flowing.  Anyone seeing signs that this is happening?
Yes

I see a lot of search queries for my content. I had 3 sales so far, and I am at 68% indexed. It does need patience. But I am more confident then ever. Basically because I would never have dreamed that anyone at any time would ever buy a photo from my own website just by searching Google. And it happens. I have made 37.50 euro (50 dollar) in 3 sales, in 2 months. Its not much, but the potential is there. I might even be on par with people submitting to Stocksy.

Title: Re: Getting there - Google indexed images got a little bump
Post by: cathyslife on August 26, 2013, 07:54
OK, so for people who have a lot of images indexed... how are the sales?

I've asked before, but is the work paying off yet?  Is the indexing leading to actual traffic?

I've been told that it requires patience... you have to wait for Google to get you properly indexed before the traffic and sales start flowing.  Anyone seeing signs that this is happening?


I have not seen any more sales except for the one a few weeks ago. But i still have less than 600 images online. It used to be on the agencies that you needed more than 500 to see sales pick up but it seems like it has to be 1000 nowadays. So i would expect at least the same to be true here.


I think the people seeing the most sales with SY are the ones with network-wide connections and links, and ones with quantities of images in the thousands. But they dont seem to be willing to share numbers publicly, so my speculation is based on past comments made here or there.
Title: Re: Getting there - Google indexed images got a little bump
Post by: klsbear on August 26, 2013, 08:21
My solution for getting my watermark to show on dark and light images was to include a grey drop shadow. It seems to work ok for most of the images.

If I change the watermark would it impact my images that have already been indexed?
I want to have both white and black letters in my watermark

Good question! I'm aiming at the same thing and hope I can 1) figure out how to get both B&W into my wm, and 2) figure out how to reprocess once I've figured out #1.  :-[

I'll probably try the wm re-creation and reprocessing before submitting my sitemaps. Now that (hooray!!!) I'm almost done Yoasting my original 700 uploaded images. From this point on, it should all go more smoothly.
Title: Re: Getting there - Google indexed images got a little bump
Post by: stockmarketer on August 26, 2013, 09:40
I have made 37.50 euro (50 dollar) in 3 sales, in 2 months. Its not much, but the potential is there. I might even be on par with people submitting to Stocksy.

Hmm... I'm starting to become intrigued.  $100 a month is about at the level this starts getting my attention, and it looks like you're heading in that direction.  If I could spend a few days building a site and throw all my images up on it, and let it generate $100 a month without too much extra work (or expense*) I could be swayed. 

Anyone else seeing results like this yet?

* As for expenses, how are you storing/serving your images?  At $25/month are you profitable?
Title: Re: Getting there - Google indexed images got a little bump
Post by: marthamarks on August 26, 2013, 10:47
My solution for getting my watermark to show on dark and light images was to include a grey drop shadow. It seems to work ok for most of the images.

I think I remember you mentioned that before. I'm going to give it a try and see if I can do that kind of design in Photoshop.

Thanks for the tip!
Title: Re: Getting there - Google indexed images got a little bump
Post by: timd35 on August 26, 2013, 11:03
My solution for getting my watermark to show on dark and light images was to include a grey drop shadow. It seems to work ok for most of the images.


I think I remember you mentioned that before. I'm going to give it a try and see if I can do that kind of design in Photoshop.

Thanks for the tip!



I ended up using a transparent watermark. By using bevel/emboss and drop shadow effects I was able to get something that worked for both dark and light backgrounds. At least it works for me.

Couple examples

http://stock.tdahlphotography.com/image/assorted-guns/ (http://stock.tdahlphotography.com/image/assorted-guns/)
http://stock.tdahlphotography.com/image/action-gamer-controller/ (http://stock.tdahlphotography.com/image/action-gamer-controller/)
Title: Re: Getting there - Google indexed images got a little bump
Post by: Ron on August 26, 2013, 11:04
Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /images/224-assorted-guns.jpg on this server.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
Title: Re: Getting there - Google indexed images got a little bump
Post by: timd35 on August 26, 2013, 11:13
Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /images/224-assorted-guns.jpg on this server.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.


Sorry, edited it to add links instead.

Edited: See if this works this time.

(http://tdahlphotography.com/images/224-assorted-guns.jpg)
(http://tdahlphotography.com/images/230-action-gamers.jpg)
Title: Re: Getting there - Google indexed images got a little bump
Post by: Ron on August 26, 2013, 11:31
All your images on that page are just placeholders, no images are showing. Same issue as before, but seems your images are hidden from the internet.
Title: Re: Getting there - Google indexed images got a little bump
Post by: timd35 on August 26, 2013, 11:37
All your images on that page are just placeholders, no images are showing. Same issue as before, but seems your images are hidden from the internet.

Okay, finally worked.  :-[   Images should be showing in the previous edited message. 
Title: Re: Getting there - Google indexed images got a little bump
Post by: Kerioak~Christine on August 26, 2013, 11:38

I think I remember you mentioned that before. I'm going to give it a try and see if I can do that kind of design in Photoshop.

Thanks for the tip!

Martha, I think I sent you a template you can use to get a watermark to show up - just change the wording to your own pattern/choice but leave the "fx" bits intact
Title: Re: Getting there - Google indexed images got a little bump
Post by: Redneck on August 26, 2013, 18:46
A little statistic of the last 7 days of traffic on my site. Might be peanuts compared to longer established sites but I think it's not too bad considering that I just started on my new domain on August 4th. Thank y'all for networking.




Title: Re: Getting there - Google indexed images got a little bump
Post by: marthamarks on August 26, 2013, 21:57

I think I remember you mentioned that before. I'm going to give it a try and see if I can do that kind of design in Photoshop.

Thanks for the tip!

Martha, I think I sent you a template you can use to get a watermark to show up - just change the wording to your own pattern/choice but leave the "fx" bits intact

Hi Christine, yes you did send that to me. I think I was about to crack the code and never used your template. But I've still got it and maybe now I'll go back and give it another shot.

I definitely need something that will show up on dark subjects. Got lots many blackbird images that down work for my current one.

Thanks again!
Title: Re: Getting there - Google indexed images got a little bump
Post by: marthamarks on August 26, 2013, 21:59
I ended up using a transparent watermark. By using bevel/emboss and drop shadow effects I was able to get something that worked for both dark and light backgrounds. At least it works for me.

That's a very nice look! I'd love to create something like that for my images... and I will, one way or another.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Getting there - Google indexed images got a little bump
Post by: Nikd90 on August 27, 2013, 00:08

I think I remember you mentioned that before. I'm going to give it a try and see if I can do that kind of design in Photoshop.

Thanks for the tip!

Martha, I think I sent you a template you can use to get a watermark to show up - just change the wording to your own pattern/choice but leave the "fx" bits intact

Can you please send it to me as well?
Title: Re: Getting there - Google indexed images got a little bump
Post by: timd35 on August 27, 2013, 11:09
I ended up using a transparent watermark. By using bevel/emboss and drop shadow effects I was able to get something that worked for both dark and light backgrounds. At least it works for me.

That's a very nice look! I'd love to create something like that for my images... and I will, one way or another.

Thank you.


Thanks, if you (or anybody) is interested in the settings I used to create in Photoshop here is the file. Just tweak it and change the text to meet your requirements.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5D5crYIz9XcM2RoLVhTYnZES0k/edit?usp=sharing (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5D5crYIz9XcM2RoLVhTYnZES0k/edit?usp=sharing)
Title: Re: Getting there - Google indexed images got a little bump
Post by: cathyslife on August 27, 2013, 11:14
I ended up using a transparent watermark. By using bevel/emboss and drop shadow effects I was able to get something that worked for both dark and light backgrounds. At least it works for me.

That's a very nice look! I'd love to create something like that for my images... and I will, one way or another.

Thank you.


Thanks, if you (or anybody) is interested in the settings I used to create in Photoshop here is the file. Just tweak it and change the text to meet your requirements.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5D5crYIz9XcM2RoLVhTYnZES0k/edit?usp=sharing (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5D5crYIz9XcM2RoLVhTYnZES0k/edit?usp=sharing)


Thanks Tim, i might give it a try too.
Title: Re: Getting there - Google indexed images got a little bump
Post by: Anita Potter on August 27, 2013, 11:41
It was going good then I'm seeing my url's are getting de-indexed.  ???
Title: Re: Getting there - Google indexed images got a little bump
Post by: ShazamImages on August 27, 2013, 12:11
It was going good then I'm seeing my url's are getting de-indexed.  ???

This might happen if you change the permalink (URL) for an image.  If  Google crawls your site, and can't find the image, then it will probably de-index it.  So anytime you make changes to permalinks (URLs), then you should probably upload a new sitemap.
Title: Re: Getting there - Google indexed images got a little bump
Post by: Anita Potter on August 27, 2013, 12:17
I think I changed maybe one or two I can't remember.  It was up to 3,072 yesterday then 3,064 later yesterday now it's around 2,800.  And looking at the crawl stats under sitemaps it might be the image-tags site maps.  I have three of them so I'm wondering if tags were duplicated within the sitemap and Google is removing them because they're identical?
Title: Re: Getting there - Google indexed images got a little bump
Post by: DonLand on August 27, 2013, 14:00
Is it necessary to upload a new site map after uploading new images?
Title: Re: Getting there - Google indexed images got a little bump
Post by: Redneck on August 27, 2013, 14:22
Is it necessary to upload a new site map after uploading new images?

No, it's not.
When you want to have your new image page crawled quickly then use Google Fetch with the URL of your new page. But you don't have to. Sooner or later Google will follow your sitemap links.
Title: Re: Getting there - Google indexed images got a little bump
Post by: DonLand on August 27, 2013, 14:24
Cool, thanks Redneck
Title: Re: Getting there - Google indexed images got a little bump
Post by: Anita Potter on August 27, 2013, 16:48
My suspicions are confirmed about the image tags.  It went down by another 200 urls and everything is indexed all the way except for the images site map.  The 3 image tags maps have gone down so it's probably duplicate content.
Title: Re: Getting there - Google indexed images got a little bump
Post by: timd35 on August 27, 2013, 21:23
I ended up using a transparent watermark. By using bevel/emboss and drop shadow effects I was able to get something that worked for both dark and light backgrounds. At least it works for me.

That's a very nice look! I'd love to create something like that for my images... and I will, one way or another.

Thank you.


Thanks, if you (or anybody) is interested in the settings I used to create in Photoshop here is the file. Just tweak it and change the text to meet your requirements.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5D5crYIz9XcM2RoLVhTYnZES0k/edit?usp=sharing (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5D5crYIz9XcM2RoLVhTYnZES0k/edit?usp=sharing)


Thanks Tim, i might give it a try too.


Your welcome and no problem, use it as you wish.   :)
Title: Re: Getting there - Google indexed images got a little bump
Post by: Kerioak~Christine on August 28, 2013, 05:54

I think I remember you mentioned that before. I'm going to give it a try and see if I can do that kind of design in Photoshop.

Thanks for the tip!


Martha, I think I sent you a template you can use to get a watermark to show up - just change the wording to your own pattern/choice but leave the "fx" bits intact


Can you please send it to me as well?



Here is a link http://kerioak.com/TP/sy-watermark.psd (http://kerioak.com/TP/sy-watermark.psd)

There are assorted layers - the black/white/coloured are so you can see the effect on different backgrounds
The SS is because I wanted to keep the Symbiostock logo but , like the coloured backgrounds can easily be hidden or deleted
The important bit is probably the special effects on the text which you can edit to suit yourself
Title: Re: Getting there - Google indexed images got a little bump
Post by: Nikd90 on August 28, 2013, 06:31

I think I remember you mentioned that before. I'm going to give it a try and see if I can do that kind of design in Photoshop.

Thanks for the tip!


Martha, I think I sent you a template you can use to get a watermark to show up - just change the wording to your own pattern/choice but leave the "fx" bits intact


Can you please send it to me as well?



Here is a link [url]http://kerioak.com/TP/sy-watermark.psd[/url] ([url]http://kerioak.com/TP/sy-watermark.psd[/url])

There are assorted layers - the black/white/coloured are so you can see the effect on different backgrounds
The SS is because I wanted to keep the Symbiostock logo but , like the coloured backgrounds can easily be hidden or deleted
The important bit is probably the special effects on the text which you can edit to suit yourself

Thanks :)