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Title: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: grsphoto on June 06, 2013, 11:29
Hello

I just posted a new blog post.

http://glennspecht.com/wp/i-opened-my-own-stock-image-store/ (http://glennspecht.com/wp/i-opened-my-own-stock-image-store/)

Please link to, reply, ping back, track back and all the other backs to the post and I will do the same... even though I don't know what most of those things mean... :)  ::)

This is what we have to do ( I think) in order to promote the network and our sites... talk about it outside of this forum.
Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: Ron on June 06, 2013, 11:33
Hi there, I am meaning to write a blog entry as well, but I need to upload my portfolio first before going full blown promoting. I dont want buyers to come over and only find a couple of hundred images  :)

But I will definitely use my site to link to, reply, ping back, track back and all the other backs to the post as much as I can !
Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: jareso on June 06, 2013, 13:13
I added link to your website to links section of my personal website:
http://www.jareso.com/links/ (http://www.jareso.com/links/)

Hope this helps you a little. ;)
Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: chrisroll on June 06, 2013, 13:16
Hi glenn,

Message posted !   ;)

I will put a link to your post for SEO
Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: grsphoto on June 06, 2013, 13:24
I added link to your website to links section of my personal website:
[url]http://www.jareso.com/links/[/url] ([url]http://www.jareso.com/links/[/url])

Hope this helps you a little. ;)


Thanks I appreciate the links

I think the days of  just having pages of links are fast fading from what I understand ( again please correct me if I am wrong).  Putting a response to my blog on my site linked back to your site has a "larger" value then a straight link.

If you mention my post ( with a link) in a post you make on your site, or on another site we both get credit ( I think this is called something like google juice)  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_juice (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_juice)

Glenn
Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: cascoly on June 06, 2013, 16:15
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Please link to, reply, ping back, track back and all the other backs to the post and I will do the same... even though I don't know what most of those things mean... :)  ::)

This is what we have to do ( I think) in order to promote the network and our sites... talk about it outside of this forum.


check http://cascoly.com/symbio/testsymbio.asp (http://cascoly.com/symbio/testsymbio.asp)  for some examples of what we can do with the images & keywords csv

eg, you can get a list of keywords across sites, and then jump to a search on various sites

the keyword list will also be handy for finding misspellings and other tagging problems

suggestions for other types of lists or searches are welcome
Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: Pilens on June 06, 2013, 16:31
.......
Please link to, reply, ping back, track back and all the other backs to the post and I will do the same... even though I don't know what most of those things mean... :)  ::)

This is what we have to do ( I think) in order to promote the network and our sites... talk about it outside of this forum.


check [url]http://cascoly.com/symbio/testsymbio.asp[/url] ([url]http://cascoly.com/symbio/testsymbio.asp[/url])  for some examples of what we can do with the images & keywords csv

eg, you can get a list of keywords across sites, and then jump to a search on various sites

the keyword list will also be handy for finding misspellings and other tagging problems

suggestions for other types of lists or searches are welcome


Looks promising!

BUT: I tried adding my SY site to the database. I got a tsunami of error (?) messages for a response. I find now 3 of my images on the "nature" and "blue" pages but nowhere else.
Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: cascoly on June 06, 2013, 17:03

BUT: I tried adding my SY site to the database. I got a tsunami of error (?) messages for a response. I find now 3 of my images on the "nature" and "blue" pages but nowhere else.

thanks -- most of the output you see is for debugging, not necessarily errors - turns out people are putting all sorts of characters in the descriptions, etc so this helps when an error does occur

if you post a copy of the actual error message at the bottom of the screen it will help me track it.

meanwhile, I've fixed the problems you encountered and your images & keywords are now updated
Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: Pilens on June 06, 2013, 21:03

BUT: I tried adding my SY site to the database. I got a tsunami of error (?) messages for a response. I find now 3 of my images on the "nature" and "blue" pages but nowhere else.


thanks -- most of the output you see is for debugging, not necessarily errors - turns out people are putting all sorts of characters in the descriptions, etc so this helps when an error does occur

if you post a copy of the actual error message at the bottom of the screen it will help me track it.

meanwhile, I've fixed the problems you encountered and your images & keywords are now updated


Luckily I still had one browser tab with messages open. Here's the last part:

description= "Street in San José, capital of Costa Rica. *** Exclusive on www.ImagoBorealis.com (http://www.ImagoBorealis.com) *** *** For editorial use only! *** width= "Street in San José, capital of Costa Rica. *** Exclusive on www.ImagoBorealis.com (http://www.ImagoBorealis.com) *** *** For editorial use only! ***

Provider error '80020005'

Type mismatch.

/symbio/read-images.asp, line 128

I believe I am guilty of "putting all sorts of characters in the descriptions"  ;D. But the capital of Costa Rica is San José (with that funny fly-poop-thingy on top of the last e  ;)). There's no way around it...
Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: cascoly on June 06, 2013, 21:50

thanks for the details

not a problem  - don't worry about what you put in the description (several of my zipped collections are proving to be the most complicated!)-- I just need to work thru the possibilities that people come up with!  CSV is not a forgiving format, so it just takes a few more steps.  that's what beta is for.

I just discovered today that some records, rather than being 1 or 2 lines in length can be up to 20 or more!
Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: Pilens on June 07, 2013, 00:51

thanks for the details

not a problem  - don't worry about what you put in the description (several of my zipped collections are proving to be the most complicated!)-- I just need to work thru the possibilities that people come up with!  CSV is not a forgiving format, so it just takes a few more steps.  that's what beta is for.

I just discovered today that some records, rather than being 1 or 2 lines in length can be up to 20 or more!

That sounds messy. I hope you'll master the CSVs from our SY sites eventually and create a hub site that rocks. I am looking forward to it. - Best of luck!
Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: ajt on June 07, 2013, 04:09
I made this:

http://symbiostock.info (http://symbiostock.info)

Now there is only self-expanding list of Symbiostock sites. Every hour it takes one site from list, gets its symbiocard, images info, and looks for next network sites. Only one found site is added per hour.
Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: Ron on June 07, 2013, 04:29
That looks useful, thanks. This weekend I am going to dedicate to uploading my entire portfolio to my site.  But it needs to be done in a controlled matter as the site displays the images in uploaded order. So if I upload my new stuff now, and my older stuff later, my older work sits up front. But once its done,  I can link too.

Probably I will be out tomorrow morning at sunrise to shoot a few images in Bray, Ireland at Bray's Head. Early rise, around 3am, so I might take a big nap when getting back before getting to work on my site.

I love photography !!
Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: grsphoto on June 07, 2013, 09:39
That looks useful, thanks. This weekend I am going to dedicate to uploading my entire portfolio to my site. 

Go slow with the uploads.... once processed it is a bit of a pain to change things...not impossible but difficult.

For SEO reasons you may want to rework the titles of your images so that they are different then on stock sites.

Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: Ron on June 07, 2013, 09:54
Thats a lot of work, I dont think I want to do that. Changing 800+ titles is too much. I appreciate the heads up though.
Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: steheap on June 07, 2013, 11:35
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Thats a lot of work, I dont think I want to do that. Changing 800+ titles is too much.

Just a comment from someone who is changing all the descriptions and adding "bold" highlights on the key concepts in the title. It is a lot of work (and I'm only at 340 images so far on the new site), but this is the ONLY way that a buyer will find you (in my view) - hence the work involved in getting a well keyworded and described image is critical to making a success. Otherwise it becomes a vanity site that only you go to.

Isn't the idea of this to get the max leads from Google to our sites?

Steve
Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: Pilens on June 07, 2013, 12:12
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Thats a lot of work, I dont think I want to do that. Changing 800+ titles is too much.

Just a comment from someone who is changing all the descriptions and adding "bold" highlights on the key concepts in the title. It is a lot of work (and I'm only at 340 images so far on the new site), but this is the ONLY way that a buyer will find you (in my view) - hence the work involved in getting a well keyworded and described image is critical to making a success. Otherwise it becomes a vanity site that only you go to.

Isn't the idea of this to get the max leads from Google to our sites?

Steve

Exactly. I really hate doing all that work. Even more so when current sales (zilch) don't really justify it. BUT when we want our SY sites becoming a success we have to go that extra mile. Changing titles/descriptions to be different from what is out at the micros has been discussed earlier. One suggestion to save work was to do all that work with just a few images per (main) category/niche. This way these images would work as "beacons" driving buyers to your site (hopefully in droves  ;D).

For me it is a really slow process. I have 100 images online now and I hope by end of the summer it will be 1000. But hey, Rome wasn't built over night either!  ;D - I go for it because I believe SY will be a game changer in the micro stock/ image licensing world  8).
Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: Kerioak~Christine on June 07, 2013, 12:15
I have learned such a lot since I first started that I am re-editing many of my old images as well - then creating some new ones just for a break from that.
Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: pling on June 07, 2013, 12:29
I didn't know need to edit the title and description until I read this post, am I too late to edit it now? most of my images already indexed by google.
Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: Ron on June 07, 2013, 13:33
What happens if the title is the same as on the micros? I am changing some titles, as some images do not have titles, my older ones, and then the description is taken as title, which I then amend. So there are slight differences. What about new work? That work is submitted at the same time to all agencies as my own work? So the indexing happens at the same time. Would it be better to submit work to my own site first and then to the agencies?

Anyhoo, I will change titles then, if it makes that much difference.

Thanks for convincing me. I guess, changing titles is ok considering I am submitting to Alamy where the editing is a horror show compared to this  ;D
Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: grsphoto on June 07, 2013, 13:41


Isn't the idea of this to get the max leads from Google to our sites?

Steve

IMHO  Yes and No.

If you live by the google you die by the google... if google decides it doesn't like Symbiostock for some reason... we are....

So the other goal should be that once we have a client in the network, they will return to the network before going anywhere else.

Google gets them in, we work hard to keep them coming back.
Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: cascoly on June 07, 2013, 17:13
Quote
Thats a lot of work, I dont think I want to do that. Changing 800+ titles is too much.

Just a comment from someone who is changing all the descriptions and adding "bold" highlights on the key concepts in the title. It is a lot of work (and I'm only at 340 images so far on the new site), but this is the ONLY way that a buyer will find you (in my view) - hence the work involved in getting a well keyworded and described image is critical to making a success. Otherwise it becomes a vanity site that only you go to.

Isn't the idea of this to get the max leads from Google to our sites?

Steve

maybe -- not clear that google doesn't already discount bold -- and if they search for similar images, the microsites are still going to show up first no matter what your description says
Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: cascoly on June 07, 2013, 17:26
What happens if the title is the same as on the micros? I am changing some titles, as some images do not have titles, my older ones, and then the description is taken as title, which I then amend. So there are slight differences. What about new work? That work is submitted at the same time to all agencies as my own work? So the indexing happens at the same time. Would it be better to submit work to my own site first and then to the agencies?

Anyhoo, I will change titles then, if it makes that much difference.
 


I don't know that anyone has actually SHOWN it is effective -- we have some anecdotal evidence of it happening.  I've gotten 1900 pages indexed on google for my site and about 200 images indexed out of 1500 images.  no  one's reported getting more than 20% of their images indexed yet

otoh, my images that I find online -- like my 'moose walking' appear multiple times from different agencies, even though the captions, etc are identical

one positive note -- warmpicture had a pretty good record of getting images listed in the first few rows of images, beating out agency images that had been online longer.

another factor to consider -- unlike previous sites like smugmug, sym creates a unique, detailed page for each image, and this may be why there's been such success in getting sites indexed on google.

so, for me, I've got thousands more images to upload before I do much tuning on individual images;  if people keep reporting their progress here we'll all benefit. 

another place to enter your image info is the combined image & keyword db's l've set up at http://cascoly.com/symbio/testsymbio.asp (http://cascoly.com/symbio/testsymbio.asp)  once I get it debugged and have more interactive searching i'll starting promoting it more, but alrerady you can get the images, categories and other information for various sites
Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: cascoly on June 07, 2013, 17:32
I made this:

[url]http://symbiostock.info[/url] ([url]http://symbiostock.info[/url])

Now there is only self-expanding list of Symbiostock sites. Every hour it takes one site from list, gets its symbiocard, images info, and looks for next network sites. Only one found site is added per hour.


what do you plan to do from here??  are you doing anything with the images & keyword info?  we should coordinate so we don't duplicate too many efforts

if anyone wants to use the combined image and keyword tables i'm building I can send the table info so you can write you own db queries
Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: Pilens on June 07, 2013, 18:33
What happens if the title is the same as on the micros? I am changing some titles, as some images do not have titles, my older ones, and then the description is taken as title, which I then amend. So there are slight differences. What about new work? That work is submitted at the same time to all agencies as my own work? So the indexing happens at the same time. Would it be better to submit work to my own site first and then to the agencies?

Anyhoo, I will change titles then, if it makes that much difference.

Thanks for convincing me. I guess, changing titles is ok considering I am submitting to Alamy where the editing is a horror show compared to this  ;D

Here is what Leo wrote about this in the Symbiostock Help section:

Quote
Search Engine Optimization (SEO)

Most likely you are accustomed to a routine of embedding information into your images, then upon upload, the agency extracts this data and produces an image page. 6 or 7 agencies might have your same image with the same content! Your image competes with itself this way, and does not help your search rankings if your website share's the same content as these other agencies.

While the automated upload routine is perfectly is perfectly possible with the Symbiostock system, it will not profit you very quickly. Meaningful information is everything in the world of SEO. This tends to be a little bit of extra time/work which is well spent. When you upload images to your site, save them as drafts. Then follow them up by changing certain values. In order of priority:

    Change the image title. Think of keywords or key phrases you know buyers will be searching. Put these toward the beginning of the title, as this is where they have the greatest weight.
    Change the "slug" / URL that will appear in the address bar. In wordpress, this appears below the title. Change before you publish. Generally if it matches the title, that will be helpful. You can also attempt to add contextual meaning by using related keywords, though its not certain how much this helps.
    Write a meaningful description, using your keywords. Use natural language, not keyword stuffing, but something that appeals to the search engine and to the reader. In fact, you may find it helpful to add more information regarding the image (and accompanying files). Make an attempt to bolden certain phrases you wish to stand out to both people and search results.
    Your keywording (taxonomy/tag) system is important, but probably not hugely important to SEO as this was one of the first things exploited in the early days of search engines. Still, adding relevant keywords and taking away the useless ones will increase the value of the page content.
    Categories are also a taxonomy system like keywords. But groups of related images may be gauged by search engines as a way to estimate the subject they should fall under. For instance, if "Lock" is found in your title, a search engine would not know what sort of lock we are referring to unless the context is obvious. Lock of hair? Section of a water-way? Door lock? Wrestling move? If you want to score high in search, be sure context is obvious through any reasonable measure you can take. Taxonomy systems most likely have some relevance in putting your content in front of the right paying crowd.

Content and links toward the top of your page have most value. Content at the bottom (toward the footer) has less value.

Symbiostock will continue to be developed using markup that is relevant to machines, such as microformats/microdata, and will always attempt to be on the leading edge of SEO as it gets perfected. This will give you a huge advantage in getting found in places beyond just Google, but you can only increase this advantage by putting the work mentioned above into your content.

On that note, please ignore most paid search presence unless it is directly related to microstock and has proven results. Facebook and Google paid searches (in my opinion) will unlikely pay for themselves in this field.

I think that's good advise. The few reports I was reading here about images showing up on google were promising. Is that good enough to rank #1? I don't know and I doubt it but at least I'll try and see.

Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: CrackerClips on June 07, 2013, 19:26
What about new work? That work is submitted at the same time to all agencies as my own work? So the indexing happens at the same time. Would it be better to submit work to my own site first and then to the agencies?


Hi Ron - That's exactly what I plan to do.  New work will get submitted to our site first.  I'll experiment a bit to see how long to let it age (and hopefully get indexed) before uploading to other agencies.  My understanding is that the earliest date the image was indexed holds some weight as well as the size of the image itself (bigger is better).  Our symbiostock sites have larger previews than most agencies which is good for ranking (of course using a strong watermark for some protection is advisable).

Bryan
Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: sc on June 07, 2013, 19:35
It is slow going to re-do all the images but I am doing them as I go.

I too am uploading to my site first then waiting a few days to upload to other sites.

Considering I just did the Google analytics about a week ago
I have 1170 pages indexed and 490 images (out of 2365 published)
pleased with that result.

Steve
Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: Beach Bum on June 07, 2013, 21:45
What about new work? That work is submitted at the same time to all agencies as my own work? So the indexing happens at the same time. Would it be better to submit work to my own site first and then to the agencies?


Hi Ron - That's exactly what I plan to do.  New work will get submitted to our site first.  I'll experiment a bit to see how long to let it age (and hopefully get indexed) before uploading to other agencies.  My understanding is that the earliest date the image was indexed holds some weight as well as the size of the image itself (bigger is better).  Our symbiostock sites have larger previews than most agencies which is good for ranking (of course using a strong watermark for some protection is advisable).

Bryan

That's what I'm doing.
Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: Beach Bum on June 07, 2013, 22:05
What happens if the title is the same as on the micros? I am changing some titles, as some images do not have titles, my older ones, and then the description is taken as title, which I then amend. So there are slight differences. What about new work? That work is submitted at the same time to all agencies as my own work? So the indexing happens at the same time. Would it be better to submit work to my own site first and then to the agencies?

Anyhoo, I will change titles then, if it makes that much difference.
 


I don't know that anyone has actually SHOWN it is effective -- we have some anecdotal evidence of it happening.  I've gotten 1900 pages indexed on google for my site and about 200 images indexed out of 1500 images.  no  one's reported getting more than 20% of their images indexed yet

otoh, my images that I find online -- like my 'moose walking' appear multiple times from different agencies, even though the captions, etc are identical

one positive note -- warmpicture had a pretty good record of getting images listed in the first few rows of images, beating out agency images that had been online longer.

another factor to consider -- unlike previous sites like smugmug, sym creates a unique, detailed page for each image, and this may be why there's been such success in getting sites indexed on google.

so, for me, I've got thousands more images to upload before I do much tuning on individual images;  if people keep reporting their progress here we'll all benefit. 

another place to enter your image info is the combined image & keyword db's l've set up at [url]http://cascoly.com/symbio/testsymbio.asp[/url] ([url]http://cascoly.com/symbio/testsymbio.asp[/url])  once I get it debugged and have more interactive searching i'll starting promoting it more, but alrerady you can get the images, categories and other information for various sites


I've had 3470 pages indexed out of 3974 and 327 images indexed out of 618.  Before submitting I edited each image individually, changing the title, description, and URL when needed.  I'm using WordPress SEO by Yoast.  I make sure that the focus keyword is included in the Article Heading, Page Title, Page URL, Content, and Meta Description.  My relatively small portfolio made this a not too difficult task.  It could be daunting for someone with a large portfolio, but might be worth it in the long run.
Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: klsbear on June 07, 2013, 23:23
That looks useful, thanks. This weekend I am going to dedicate to uploading my entire portfolio to my site.  But it needs to be done in a controlled matter as the site displays the images in uploaded order. So if I upload my new stuff now, and my older stuff later, my older work sits up front. But once its done,  I can link too.

Probably I will be out tomorrow morning at sunrise to shoot a few images in Bray, Ireland at Bray's Head. Early rise, around 3am, so I might take a big nap when getting back before getting to work on my site.

I love photography !!

There are a few ways you can control the display order that don't rely on making yourself crazy with trying to put them up in a particular order as you process.  Take a good look at the controls in the upper right of the image processing area, above the Publish or Update button.  It's self-explanatory but you can be creative in their uses.

1.) when you work on an image you don't have to publish right away - you can do the work and just save as draft then publish when you have the group done.

2.) you can set the order by editing the date and time (listed using a 24 hour clock).  Want to publish your oldest pictures to appear at the end of the sort?  Set the date to January.  Want to promote some seasonal images?  Go change the publish date to today's date.  Want to group previously published images together and they are all over the place?  Go change them to the same date and hour, just minutes apart.

3.) You can also use the clock to manage publishing images on future dates.  Work on images over the weekend then set the date for Monday morning, or set up images to publish fresh images every day of the week.  Or set up several to publish when you're traveling so you have a continuous flow of fresh content.  Setting the date and time in the future schedules the publish time and holds it until that date.

Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: ajt on June 08, 2013, 01:43
I made this:

[url]http://symbiostock.info[/url] ([url]http://symbiostock.info[/url])

Now there is only self-expanding list of Symbiostock sites. Every hour it takes one site from list, gets its symbiocard, images info, and looks for next network sites. Only one found site is added per hour.


what do you plan to do from here??  are you doing anything with the images & keyword info?  we should coordinate so we don't duplicate too many efforts


Now I have code for automated fetching csv files from sites and moving data into tables. I know, that I partially duplicate your job, but it is occasion for me to develop my programming skills. I think that you concentrate on all Symbiostock specific stuff, like artists info, categories, network analysis.
I plan to make search engine. Something like Google Images, but only for Symbio. Then maybe I'll make a plugin from it. Widget, which can be placed somewhere in every Symbio site.
And even better: this search site will pretend Symbio site to outer world, so everyone will be able to place it in network list :)
Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: Ron on June 08, 2013, 02:02
Thanks guys, great advice. I think Im good on SEO now. It wont be perfect but lets see what happens. No sales yet, but I still need to add my best and latest work, about 700 images.
Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: Kerioak~Christine on June 08, 2013, 03:47
Just had a quick look and about 754 out of 951 of my images appear in Google images so far - that seems quite good to me ?
Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: Ron on June 08, 2013, 04:13
Just had a quick look and about 754 out of 951 of my images appear in Google images so far - that seems quite good to me ?
how do you check that?
Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: Kerioak~Christine on June 08, 2013, 04:16
Google search - site:mysite.com   then click on images and counted them, I meant to do this the other day but this prompted me into it
Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: Ron on June 08, 2013, 04:26
Cool, 1 thumbnail indexed  :)
Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: Beach Bum on June 08, 2013, 05:25
Google search - site:mysite.com   then click on images and counted them, I meant to do this the other day but this prompted me into it

You can also do this with Google Webmaster Tools if you've submitted a sitemap.  WordPress SEO automatically creates sitemaps for you to submit if you have that plugin.
Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: Ron on June 08, 2013, 05:30
I used Google XML Sitemaps but its only showing my pages in the sitemap, none of the image pages?
Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: plrang on June 08, 2013, 05:46
@Ron
Try yoast seo http://wordpress.org/plugins/wordpress-seo/ (http://wordpress.org/plugins/wordpress-seo/)

It'll create any sitemap for you like this http://stock.imagerion.com/sitemap_index.xml (http://stock.imagerion.com/sitemap_index.xml)

and it has few good site optimization tools at the same time. then you can uninstall some feature duplicating plugins

Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: Ron on June 08, 2013, 06:15
Just had the shocker of my life, my whole site went blank after trying to deactivate Jetpack, the login.php got corrupted and all I saw was a blank site. I could still see the site on a new browser, but not on the one I was logged in. And trying to create a new user, resulted in the site going blank again for that user as well. Had to do a complete restore using Bluehost and now its working again. Only lost a bit of work done today. Holy mother.... Bluehost worth its money already.
Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: Beach Bum on June 08, 2013, 07:08
Holy mother.... Bluehost worth its money already.

I've had to do the same thing before.  Bluehost definitely worth it.
Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: ajt on June 08, 2013, 09:46
Ron, I don't know why, but when I search "eggs" in your site, and then click on that eggs thumbnail, different image is displayed. Maybe your crash/restore did something wrong...
Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: Ron on June 08, 2013, 10:00
Ron, I don't know why, but when I search "eggs" in your site, and then click on that eggs thumbnail, different image is displayed. Maybe your crash/restore did something wrong...
Thanks for letting me know.

When an image has no title and description it get a standard slug - Royalty free image by user name. I had not updated the slog of the egg image, so it pulled up another image with the same default slug. What is weird though is that the image it pulled up is a draft and not published. Anyhoo, thanks, good to know this can happen.
Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: ajt on June 08, 2013, 10:09
I tested my search engine here

http://symbiostock.info (http://symbiostock.info)

For eggs is showed some results, I clicked on yours and ????
First I thought that I had done something wrong  :)

And this search is first try, now I have to paginate it somehow, mix results from sites.
There are only about 4000 images indexed now, almost all from two sites.
Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: Kerioak~Christine on June 08, 2013, 10:27
Hi Andrzej
That shows a very fast result for searches!

Is it possible to delete the tulip.kerioak.com site before it gets into your system.  I have deleted it from the network, deactivated and deleted Symbiostock.  Looks like I will have to totally delete the site to stop it appearing in the network (which is a bit concerning if we ever want to leave it might prove difficult)

Nice to see some of my Dobermanns showing up :)

Edited to add:  Deleted files show up as tiny blank boxes (where I am trying to get png and jpg to show up)
Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: Ron on June 08, 2013, 10:37
I tested my search engine here

[url]http://symbiostock.info[/url] ([url]http://symbiostock.info[/url])

For eggs is showed some results, I clicked on yours and ????
First I thought that I had done something wrong  :)

And this search is first try, now I have to paginate it somehow, mix results from sites.
There are only about 4000 images indexed now, almost all from two sites.
Thats still bring up the old slug, so when that global search is updated, the slug should be fine. Cool tool anyway.
Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: ajt on June 08, 2013, 11:16
Tinny: I will mark your test site as excluded.
Ron: Now every info is refreshed once a day.
Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: farbled on June 08, 2013, 11:34
Tinny: I will mark your test site as excluded.
Ron: Now every info is refreshed once a day.

That is a cool search function you have there. Very nice!

Re: google, my images for my minerals are now (for the popular ones) showing in the same rows as my agency ones. I made some minor twekas to titles and descriptions only. I'm really impressed with this whole project. Now all I have to do is somehow convert clicks into buys. :)
Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: grsphoto on June 08, 2013, 12:48
Now all I have to do is somehow convert clicks into buys. :)

Which is what we all have to do...start letting the buyers know we exist.
Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: cascoly on June 08, 2013, 14:21
http://cascoly.com/symbio/symbiostock-network.asp (http://cascoly.com/symbio/symbiostock-network.asp) now does searches on both keywords and images

For images, captions and links are included, increasing your visibility to search engines

the networking reports show both who each site links to and who links to each site.

I'll also be adding a section on the symbiostock.com site that lists all the externally developed apps as they come online

Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: sc on June 08, 2013, 17:48
[url]http://cascoly.com/symbio/symbiostock-network.asp[/url] ([url]http://cascoly.com/symbio/symbiostock-network.asp[/url]) now does searches on both keywords and images

For images, captions and links are included, increasing your visibility to search engines

the networking reports show both who each site links to and who links to each site.

I'll also be adding a section on the symbiostock.com site that lists all the externally developed apps as they come online

Great job Steve.
I was just browsing around the Network Database - using the search engine, checking out all the list - all very impressive.

Did some searches for keywords - obviously it is still in its infancy not every thing shows up but very relevant returns for everything ...
with one exception.
I searched for tea. I get about 130 results but only 3 with tea.
The others are returning results for things like Steamboat Springs or Teacher, Chateau

So I just searched for pea and then searched for cop and get the same kind of results, any word with that three letter combination shows up.

Don't know if that's fixable or needs to be just something I noticed.

Steve
(the other steve c)

Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: Pilens on June 08, 2013, 17:50
[url]http://cascoly.com/symbio/symbiostock-network.asp[/url] ([url]http://cascoly.com/symbio/symbiostock-network.asp[/url]) now does searches on both keywords and images

For images, captions and links are included, increasing your visibility to search engines

the networking reports show both who each site links to and who links to each site.

I'll also be adding a section on the symbiostock.com site that lists all the externally developed apps as they come online


Nice progress! You must be working hard.

I tried one of my major keywords, and only one image showed up (should be about two dozen). I tried another one (consisting of two words) and nothing showed up (I expected to see three images). Then I thought maybe I should do "Add your Images" again for my SY site. I saw improvement here as well. No tsunami of messages this time. However, I still got this:

'*** adding 9: 1032 New Zealand Fantail chicks being fed by parents last chr 32

Provider error '80020005'

Type mismatch.

/symbio/read-images.asp, line 123

I don't think it's fancy characters this time. But I'll leave it to you figuring out this one  ;D - I just hope my feedback helps a bit to iron out those kinks.
Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: grsphoto on June 08, 2013, 18:17
[url]http://cascoly.com/symbio/symbiostock-network.asp[/url] ([url]http://cascoly.com/symbio/symbiostock-network.asp[/url]) now does searches on both keywords and images



Is this tool for the public or just for Search engines?  When I type in Ecuador I expected to get a lot of my images, which I did, but most were repeated 2 or 3 times.  Is this to be expected?

Glenn
Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: cascoly on June 08, 2013, 18:39
[url]http://cascoly.com/symbio/symbiostock-network.asp[/url] ([url]http://cascoly.com/symbio/symbiostock-network.asp[/url]) now does searches on both keywords and images

.......

Great job Steve.
I was just browsing around the Network Database - using the search engine, checking out all the list - all very impressive.

Did some searches for keywords - obviously it is still in its infancy not every thing shows up but very relevant returns for everything ...
with one exception.
I searched for tea. I get about 130 results but only 3 with tea.
The others are returning results for things like Steamboat Springs or Teacher, Chateau

So I just searched for pea and then searched for cop and get the same kind of results, any word with that three letter combination shows up.

Don't know if that's fixable or needs to be just something I noticed.

Steve
(the other steve c)


thanks, it was actually there as a feature -- intent was you could enter 'fish' & also get results for fishing, fisherman, etc

it's searching the string of keywords so I hadn't used small words like that before. 

for the moment, you can start with a space to get all starting with the 3 letters, and end with a , to avoid embedded sequences.  i'll fix that eventually to allow all options

right now, i'm letting people enter their data individually whenever they update -- I may add an automatic collection later, so the db doesn't contain all the images that are out there

search keywords will also show a list of all sites that have keywords starting with 'tea'
Title: Re: New blog post about my site, and Symbiostock
Post by: sc on June 08, 2013, 19:16
[url]http://cascoly.com/symbio/symbiostock-network.asp[/url] ([url]http://cascoly.com/symbio/symbiostock-network.asp[/url]) now does searches on both keywords and images

thanks, it was actually there as a feature -- intent was you could enter 'fish' & also get results for fishing, fisherman, etc

it's searching the string of keywords so I hadn't used small words like that before. 

for the moment, you can start with a space to get all starting with the 3 letters, and end with a , to avoid embedded sequences.  i'll fix that eventually to allow all options

right now, i'm letting people enter their data individually whenever they update -- I may add an automatic collection later, so the db doesn't contain all the images that are out there

search keywords will also show a list of all sites that have keywords starting with 'tea'


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