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« Reply #25 on: May 07, 2013, 15:01 »
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That was quick, Chico, Thank you.

I noticed there are a few links in the list that point to (photo-)sites that are technically no Symbiostock sites.

let me know which sites those are & i'  move them to the friends of symbio list -- all the sites on the network list should be functioning symbio sites, even if they're not fully up to speed yet


« Reply #26 on: May 07, 2013, 15:10 »
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dif parts of webmst tools give diff # for items indexed -- my latest index total under health is 1217 but from 300 2 wks ago

under optimization/sitmaps I have 1819 indexed out of 3806 submitted (LOTS OF OVERLAP)  but only ONE out of 998 images submitted thru yoast pix/image-sitemap1.xml

anyone getting better results n getting image sitemaps accepted?  I suspect these are mostly due to the same iimages are already indexed from the agencies, but google doesn't seem to casre where the image comes from - i'll be experimenting more with images unique to sym to see If the acceptance improves.  meanwhile, at least the pages with these imasges are being indexed

« Reply #27 on: May 07, 2013, 17:33 »
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Chico - I see my topics field is blank.  If you'd like to update that please list topics as: food & drink, lifestyle & objects, backgrounds & holiday.

Steve - please update my topics & "looking for" lists which are blank in your list too. 
Topics: food & drink, lifestyle & objects, backgrounds & holiday.
Looking for: complimentary themes, especially with people, business, travel, landscape. 

I'm also still listed in the "friends" group as klsbear - that can be removed since I'm up in the active section now.

Thanks!
Karen (KLSbear)

« Reply #28 on: May 07, 2013, 17:39 »
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Chico - I see my topics field is blank.  If you'd like to update that please list topics as: food & drink, lifestyle & objects, backgrounds & holiday.
Thanks!
Karen (KLSbear)

Done!

« Reply #29 on: May 07, 2013, 18:06 »
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Chico - I see my topics field is blank.  If you'd like to update that please list topics as: food & drink, lifestyle & objects, backgrounds & holiday.

Steve - please update my topics & "looking for" lists which are blank in your list too. 
Topics: food & drink, lifestyle & objects, backgrounds & holiday.
Looking for: complimentary themes, especially with people, business, travel, landscape. 

I'm also still listed in the "friends" group as klsbear - that can be removed since I'm up in the active section now.

Thanks!
Karen (KLSbear)


Thanks for posting that Karen. I was just working on my list also, so I added those in.

My list is at http://cathyslifestockphotos.com/what-is-symbiostock/

If anyone sees an error, please let me know. I have checked all the links, so those should be good.

I moved people who want in on the action of the SEO, but don't really have SY sites and don't have links to SY members sites down to the "Friends of Symbiostock" section. I am going to send emails, asking for linkbacks. It would be most appreciated.

« Reply #30 on: May 08, 2013, 01:31 »
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That was quick, Chico, Thank you.

I noticed there are a few links in the list that point to (photo-)sites that are technically no Symbiostock sites.

let me know which sites those are & i'  move them to the friends of symbio list -- all the sites on the network list should be functioning symbio sites, even if they're not fully up to speed yet

OK, I PM you a list

« Reply #31 on: May 08, 2013, 07:54 »
+1
Now back to the original topic.... does anyone have other ideas to get our sites known?

« Reply #32 on: May 08, 2013, 08:11 »
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Now back to the original topic.... does anyone have other ideas to get our sites known?

Maybe a banner here in MSG? It's expensive? Maybe we can send some mails for our business friends. Some interview about SY could be helpful also.

Leo Blanchette

« Reply #33 on: May 08, 2013, 11:21 »
+1
Now back to the original topic.... does anyone have other ideas to get our sites known?
keep adding content according to methods in help screen....ads are waste of money on our level

« Reply #34 on: May 08, 2013, 15:29 »
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Thanks for posting that Karen. I was just working on my list also, so I added those in.

My list is at http://cathyslifestockphotos.com/what-is-symbiostock/

If anyone sees an error, please let me know. I have checked all the links, so those should be good.

I moved people who want in on the action of the SEO, but don't really have SY sites and don't have links to SY members sites down to the "Friends of Symbiostock" section. I am going to send emails, asking for linkbacks. It would be most appreciated.
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I have now done the same as Cathy (I copied from your list hope it is ok!) having a list of symbiostock sites on my own. Would it be an idea  to have such list updated by each of us in a specific thread; so we could copy it on our site from time to time. It should be a simple copy/paste including the link. My knowledge is not sufissant to tell if it is possible, but it would be nice....
Jean

Leo Blanchette

« Reply #35 on: May 08, 2013, 15:48 »
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Quote

Thanks for posting that Karen. I was just working on my list also, so I added those in.

My list is at http://cathyslifestockphotos.com/what-is-symbiostock/

If anyone sees an error, please let me know. I have checked all the links, so those should be good.

I moved people who want in on the action of the SEO, but don't really have SY sites and don't have links to SY members sites down to the "Friends of Symbiostock" section. I am going to send emails, asking for linkbacks. It would be most appreciated.


I have now done the same as Cathy (I copied from your list hope it is ok!) having a list of symbiostock sites on my own. Would it be an idea  to have such list updated by each of us in a specific thread; so we could copy it on our site from time to time. It should be a simple copy/paste including the link. My knowledge is not sufissant to tell if it is possible, but it would be nice....
Jean


Not only that but the future part of Symbistock releases will make tracking very easy. Especially with Cascoly controlling a hub :D

« Reply #36 on: May 08, 2013, 19:45 »
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for now --

http://www.microstockgroup.com/symbiostock-network-building/networking-what-are-you-looking-for-in-a-match/msg315586

is where I gather info

and http://cascoly.com/symbiostock-network.asp is my latest list, updated every few days if there are additions to that thread

« Reply #37 on: May 08, 2013, 20:26 »
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Now back to the original topic.... does anyone have other ideas to get our sites known?

Maybe a banner here in MSG? It's expensive? Maybe we can send some mails for our business friends. Some interview about SY could be helpful also.

MSG is not our target market.  Posting on blogs and sites that potential purchasers go to is the place we should be hitting.  But I don't have a clue which ones or where they are.

Leo Blanchette

« Reply #38 on: May 08, 2013, 20:59 »
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>> http://stompstock.com/

Living proof you don't need to spend money on ads.

Also you will be able to "test" picturengine.com soon, since I'm giving the theme ability to interact with their site at your control (its an optional feature).

Before anyone slaps me, I'm aware of people's opinions. I'm rather hoping a few people can "give it a go" for a year and give us a good assessment. I think most of what people know around here is not based on the actual use of their system, but just a fall-out that happened quite some time ago.

Leo Blanchette

« Reply #39 on: May 08, 2013, 21:04 »
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I just want to mention something about various types of ads -

Google and facebook ads:

ABSOLUTE rip-offs for our business. Unless you have some gigantic library and can shake hands with people on the golf-course, I just can't see how its practical on our scale.

Banner ads: Very hard to profit from at our scale unless the promotional investment is low.

One thing I can tell you (and can stand by it, stubbornly, arrogantly...well, just from experience) is you generally don't need most types of marketing out there so long as google remains a good search engine.

Also when Symbiostock gets big, I think it will be hard NOT to see some results.

For instance, without explaining much, I'm building in a feature than gives you advertising many jumps away from your site ... passively, and based on human traffic patterns.

I'm your friend - don't waste money on ads!!!!

« Reply #40 on: May 08, 2013, 21:46 »
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>> http://stompstock.com/

Living proof you don't need to spend money on ads.

Also you will be able to "test" picturengine.com soon, since I'm giving the theme ability to interact with their site at your control (its an optional feature).

Before anyone slaps me, I'm aware of people's opinions. I'm rather hoping a few people can "give it a go" for a year and give us a good assessment.


You can count on me Leo. Let me know what I need to do. I was in contact previously with Justin when Ktool option was in discussion and had a good impression. I'm ready...
Jean

« Reply #41 on: May 09, 2013, 15:41 »
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>> http://stompstock.com/

...
Also you will be able to "test" picturengine.com soon, since I'm giving the theme ability to interact with their site at your control (its an optional feature).

Before anyone slaps me, I'm aware of people's opinions. I'm rather hoping a few people can "give it a go" for a year and give us a good assessment. I think most of what people know around here is not based on the actual use of their system, but just a fall-out that happened quite some time ago.


no slap, I'm all for options, just a reminder that those who paid upfront for the privilege of testing their engine have seen NO results since the system is still in photo-only beta so you cant even see what it might look like.  and they still haven't been truthful about who gets to benefit from the search - buyers getting the lowest price available, or photogs getting priority for their independent sites - you can't have it both ways but PE seems to think both groups are too stupid to realize this

quailrunphoto

« Reply #42 on: May 14, 2013, 17:00 »
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Thanks for all the suggestions.  I have added the Symbiostock Network page to my web site.  Hope I did it right as I am not a programmer.  My site is up and running, I only have 20 images uploaded so far but am making progress.

farbled

« Reply #43 on: May 14, 2013, 17:33 »
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I finally hit the 400 mark for my mineral site today. Only another thousand or so to go (from my older collections). It's a bear because when I got into microstock I was only with one agency so I never keyed my photos as I went. I added them after the fact. So now I'm stuck re-keying all my older stuff. Ahh well. At least I can make it a little better and more relevant.

I'm trying to keep up with all the innovations posted here too, but that's a bit harder. Oh, and thanks to everyone linking to me, I'm getting lots of hits through your sites, hopefully the sales will come soon too. :)

sc

« Reply #44 on: May 15, 2013, 09:54 »
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I too have just added a Symbiosotck Network page to my site If anyone would like to add me to the bottom of their list it would be greatly appreciated.
I'm up and running with 1500+ images uploaded.
I still have one slot open in my network it anyone is interested in adding me to theirs.

Steve
www.SoftLightStock.com

edit:
added Tinny - Thanks
Looking forward to the next version when we can add more.
« Last Edit: May 15, 2013, 10:51 by SC »

« Reply #45 on: May 15, 2013, 15:17 »
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I just added you SC & now Leo has to increase the available network slots number

« Reply #46 on: May 15, 2013, 18:43 »
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I just added you SC & now Leo has to increase the available network slots number

I agree! There is so much talent in the network, I already want to connect to about 8 more people!

quailrunphoto

« Reply #47 on: May 19, 2013, 02:38 »
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Had an interesting experience this evening.  I created my twitter account so I could post photo links to it and posted about 20 tweets with links to that account.  Hopped back over to Facebook and found that they had suspended my account.  They now want a copy of a government photo id to release my account.

Wow, they sure are clamping down.  I don't know what happens to my Symbiostock links  to facebook while the account is suspended.  I will keep you posted.


Leo Blanchette

« Reply #48 on: May 19, 2013, 02:48 »
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Had an interesting experience this evening.  I created my twitter account so I could post photo links to it and posted about 20 tweets with links to that account.  Hopped back over to Facebook and found that they had suspended my account.  They now want a copy of a government photo id to release my account.

Wow, they sure are clamping down.  I don't know what happens to my Symbiostock links  to facebook while the account is suspended.  I will keep you posted.
I hate facebook. Sorry to be so negative. They are BAD. I deactivated my account with them a long time ago...and of course had to make sure it was actually deleted.

I think its funny (really really funny) how invasive they are to your privacy, how they market you behind your back, how they attempt to infringe on your content (you think getty/google was scary), and pretty much rape and abuse your identy...

...then slap you on the hand if your friend-add-methods or communication-rate (accidental or not) are not ethical in their eyes (/code).

They suspended you? Do yourself a favor and make sure you can *delete* your account :D. They will own you until you get them to delete you for real.

Edit: that silly suspension-add-your-id thing is probably just another way to get your info. Once you upload your id, along with your underwear drawer, I'm sure they will want to be friends again.
« Last Edit: May 19, 2013, 02:51 by Leo »

« Reply #49 on: May 19, 2013, 03:48 »
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It is very difficult to get yourself totally removed from facebook - they suspend your account instead of deleting it and if you happen to want to see someone's details, maybe to see if they are using one of your photos without permission you have to find a way of signing in and then, as if by magic, your account rises from the dead!


~~

I have been wondering about sending out a mass email to everyone in my address book and asking them to forward it (using a disposable email address of course) but have been wondering how to word it


 

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