Let's see how much interest there would be before spending time on details that might not be a concern

original discussion started at http://www.microstockgroup.com/symbiostock-development-area/who-wants-to-open-a-hub-site/msg330741/#msg330741

I have a couple of questions:

Is the code secure, or can the carpet be pulled away in one second?
Is the system is vulnerable to abuse and parasitism?
Who controls the search machine?

I have a couple of questions:

Is the code secure, or can the carpet be pulled away in one second?
Is the system is vulnerable to abuse and parasitism?
Who controls the search machine?

why should anyone reply to you when you've made it clear you're not going to participate?

some of us are trying to move in a positive direction.  all you do is repeat  the negativity you've displayed from the beginning.  I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt, but you're determined to prove me wrong.

I don't have a site yet, but to me centralisation makes sense. Some constitution or founding principles could be established to protect against mistrust/corruption/greed etc. One such principle could be that whatever happens commission remains at 100%. Just a thought.

This is starting to sound like a Photoshelter virtual agency.

I have not voted because I would want to know more first.  How would central payments work?   I think we have already proven we cannot agree on a EULA so how would a decision be made

I think it is exactly what is needed. I voted for centralized payment and same EULA so it all looks like one big site to the customer rather than a bunch of scattered artists. If people can all live with the same EULA from all the microsites they've signed up with, why not here. If photographers signed up in droves and dropped their competing sites we could all make a decent living again and get rid of the $.21 downloads.

You just mentioned the one thing I am trying to escape from: commission

That draws the line for me.

Cheers guys.

Its open source, what can I do about it? Ive spent some money on plugins.

But I'll butt out indefinitely now. That last comment kind of upset me even more.

Cheers for the guilt trip

Quote from: Ron on July 18, 2013, 12:23

Its open source, what can I do about it? Ive spent some money on plugins.

But I'll butt out indefinitely now. That last comment kind of upset me even more.

I did software development in the past, obviously you don't have an idea how much time and effort goes into developing such system. I would gladly pay a small commission to Leo and the crew if the sale generates from their "Central Hub". This would be a small price to pay to show some appreciation instead of just saying thank you which won't pay the rent.

This was just an idea and nothing to be upset about. Ultimately Symbiostock will decide how it should be.

I know exactly how much goes into developing because its my day job. With all due respect to Leo and others, they took the project on voluntarily. They are reaping seo rewards and with paid plugins, upgrades and whatever else anyone comes up with, they will be compensated. They did so, offering this initial open source idea, for free. Some of us have helped being beta testers. No one on either side expected compensation in the beginning.


I have plans to donate to leo, buy plugins, etc. and help others by buying those things that i think necessary and helpful. i wont ever agree to anyone taking a commission from the sale of my photos.


I am not upset and you are entitled to your opinion, but i think its kind of insulting for you to say we have no idea. Most of worked days and days to get our site up and working correctly. Everybody is busy, everybody needs money...thats why i (we?) started this project to begin with.


There is no symbiostock to decide anything...theres me, theres you, and theres anyone else who chooses to build a SY site. We are all independent.


By the way, leo accepts donations. You dont have to just say thank you and you dont have to agree to a commission. If you want, thats your business, but there are other ways to show appreciation.

I know exactly how much goes into developing because its my day job. With all due respect to Leo and others, they took the project on voluntarily. They are reaping seo rewards and with paid plugins, upgrades and whatever else anyone comes up with, they will be compensated. They did so, offering this initial open source idea, for free. Some of us have helped being beta testers. No one on either side expected compensation in the beginning.


I have plans to donate to leo, buy plugins, etc. and help others by buying those things that i think necessary and helpful. i wont ever agree to anyone taking a commission from the sale of my photos.


I am not upset and you are entitled to your opinion, but i think its kind of insulting for you to say we have no idea. Most of worked days and days to get our site up and working correctly. Everybody is busy, everybody needs money...thats why i (we?) started this project to begin with.


There is no symbiostock to decide anything...theres me, theres you, and theres anyone else who chooses to build a SY site. We are all independent.


By the way, leo accepts donations. You dont have to just say thank you and you dont have to agree to a commission. If you want, thats your business, but there are other ways to show appreciation.

I'm sorry if you get insulted but I didn't reply to you. Regardless, my apologies to the people who know how much work goes into software development.

I offered to donate yesterday in a different thread. Obviously if the majority of the people doesn't like the idea of commission. Well, it won't get implemented.

It was merely an idea to compensate the developers. Obviously, from what I can see people like to take but don't want to give back. Again, my apologies to the people who did, including you cclapper.

Quote from: bspudd on July 18, 2013, 13:23

Obviously, from what I can see people like to take but don't want to give back.

Thanks for negating a lot of people's hard work.

And with the "don't want to give back," I'm out.